Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: SOMUA S35 part 1
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2024
- Minor error: I have the AMD and AMR roles reversed in the introduction.
In the new episode of the Inside the Chieftain's Hatch dedicated to the French S35 tank, Nicholas Moran will talk about its unusual wheel flanges, how many hours were required to replace the engine, and why the tank wouldn't usually go farther than 40 km. Enjoy!
Gotta admit, the early-war French tanks had the coolest markings...
HOW DARE YOU DISAGREE WITH ME ON A MINOR DIFFERENCE REEEEEEEEEE
And the ugliest armor profiles/shapes >.>
The top is bolted to the bottom. That sounds like how IKEA would make a tank.
No, if IKEA made the tank you would either be missing the assembly instruction, missing bolts, or miss a special tool to put the non standard bolts on with, or you would be missing a crucial part. :P
and it would be made of wood with cheap fasteners
@@haraldlorentzen40 Half of it would have been left in the depot.
IKEA would use those little knobbed pins and rotating cams and the whole thing would rattle apart after half a mile. You'd go five degrees off level and the top will just slide off. Realistically though? Bolting the top to the bottom is a great production method. Put the whole bottom of the tank together at one station with it nice and open, put the top of the tank together with it nice and open, bolt them together, climb in and do what little required both halves together. Think about all the clamshell constructed plastic molding you have. Here the French were doing that with cast steel, and the Americans would do the same with Shermans (only IIRC we welded them).
Does it come with an allen key?
In combat the radio operator could stand up on the right side and assist the commander in loading the main gun. The turret could be described as a "one-and-a-half man" turret. It only looked similar to the turret of the B 1bis, but had a different design with an enlarged turret ring and with this, more space inside. Therefore, for easy use by the radio operator, the right wall of the fighting compartment hold a large stowage bin for the 47mm ammunition. (Source (among others): French Tanks of World War II (volume 2) by Steven J. Zaloga)
Thank you! I was really wondering the utility of having dedicated radiomen considering most S-35s didn't come with radios. One would think that even a light machine gun poking through a hole would provide this crew member more to do.
William Sager I think they intended for every tank to have a radio. ultimately cost prevented this. Where as the Germans provided everyone of their tanks with a 2 way radio.
2-way radios were only provided to all German tanks later in the war (...1943 or so?) Lower echelon tanks "only" had receivers IIRC
Well for the French it wasn't so much cost as just not having the right factories. France didn't have many factories that made electronics. Most high tech industry was in Britain and Germany and Britain refused the sell the French radio's as they needed them all for their own rearmament. A big reason all German tanks had radio was because in the mid 30's Hitler had made a government sponsored mass produced radio to more easily spread Nazi propaganda. To make sure every German had it they erected many factories and workshops to make them and it was fairly simple to retool those to make military radio's.
The AMR was not intended to reconnoitre and report as its name suggests but was a light armoured combat vehicle, mostly without a radio and used as a support tank for the mechanised infantry.
I was really hoping you would cover this tank, and you did not disappoint.
Thank you.
P.O.E.
Thank you and your team for the good work you all do :)
My favorite French tank! Thank you for sharing this.
Hmmmm war thunder releases French tanks and then you do this...if you’re being held captive then do the secret signal
TheEtonianGamer It was probably filmed several months ago, remember when he did a walkthrough of the French museum.
probably a happy coincidence. Also means War Thunder doesn't have to bother doing these sorts of videos.
lol, its a joke Jaak and Thomas
Also Girls und Panzer Somua episode premiered last weekend.
Illuminati confirmed
+JanoTuotanto wait what. I must look this up
but what about track tension? I´m so disappointed...
Thought the same thing, god knows if we ever buy one of these, what do we do? :O
I don’t think there is any track tensioning ability on this since the suspension provides so little travel.
mightymasochist
It’s like when Doug DeMiro reviews a car without a frunk. It makes me want to stay in bed for days.
it makes me think the world will end
I'm early? :3 And just in time for War Thunder's introduction of the French Ground Forces!
Such a "coincidence"!
I’ve been looking forward to seeing The Chieftain go over this tank. Thank you for going over it
I love these videos always more fun than reading about the tank
I AM ALIVE !!!!! Also having the Chieftain, with his working knowledge of what makes a tank tick, conducting these tours adds a lot as well. Instead of just simply regurgitating fact and statistics The Chieftain gives us a lot of extra details that could only come from someone who's an actual tanker. For instance, I don't think that any academic historian would think of doing the "Oh God, oh God, I'm on fire." test when sitting inside one of these tanks, nor be able to offer much insight as to the usability/ergonomics of the tank's interior and ease of maintenance of the mechanics.
Riceball01 indeed, great comment right there
What I always thought was funny about S 35s was the fact that very few actually had radios. As such the radio man sitting on the right front of the tank must of felt incredibly redundant.
Love French tanks honestly
Chiron like the AMX
Fav is the s tank
SOMUA - Société d'outillage mécanique et d'usinage d'artillerie
"If he was feeling brave, he could open his hatch and discharge his personal weapon."
I honestly laughed a little to much at that.
Love this series and the host!!!
What a lovely surprise, just as the hype for War Thunder adding French tanks is building :)
Love this series, can't put them out fast enough!
YESSSSSS!!!! Always loved the S35. It just looks right for the era to me. It is smaller than I always imagined it but then again Nick is a tall guy...
Great stuff! I love learning about French armor.
I am glad to see that you did a video on this one :)
Nick - as always a great video.
I think it's considered a design flaw if your fuel tank requires people to "learn" how to fill up properly.
I guess you have never filled up an aircraft. You think you just pour the fuel in and it just goes into all ten tanks in the wings and fuselage? Hell, I used to have an F-150 with two fuel tanks. It's not a flaw if you take a moment to tell the new guys "hey, there is two tanks, you need to flip this lever". The guys can operate a 1930s tank, they can adjust the choke and mixture to run the engine, they can adjust the carburetor, they can tension the track and check the brake travel, spark plug gaps, fuses for the various shells, they can load and clean and harmonize the guns... but two fuel tanks, that's a bit too much to ask! These are raw conscripts after all, just rounded up of the streets and said "here, take this tank and go fight _pour le Patrie_ "
I wonder if the SOMUA plates on French Shermans caused any confusion for German Intelligence. Seems like they might think they had come across a new version of the tank.
Think they were a bit more careful after that mix up with the American 'Pilot' vehicle.
Since Germany controlled France and the SOMUA factory at that point I think they would know if they were producing M4 Medium tanks.
Love this series of videos
Tank has cup-holders. Fantastic! Such forward thinking.
Great job 👏
another good one fella!
This were my very first Premium Tanks bought from WOT,,years ago,,it was awesome,,scored Radley Walters twice !!
FINALLY! My favourite French tank!
Recently discovered the channel. I have been watching all the back episodes and thoroughly enjoy them except for that inane repetitious music. If I listen to it much more I will make the 11 o'clock news.
That marker light towards the rear, would make me feel oh so much safer in battle.
Nice french, where did you learn that ?
Belgium
Tanks alot! Did the hull shape influence the Sherman tank design at all?
Thanks
I would love to see if the radioman below in the hull could in any way assist the job of the tank commander. Especially considering the lack of radios in S 35s.
I was hoping that you would do this tank!
Nice vid, nice tank... what about the mentioned LT vz.35 or 38, is there any of them in some museum? I would really like to see a walkaround at least one of them :)
Jake Buchar There is one 38 in Munster, Germany.
Where's the wine bottle opener?
Pfsif
Right next to the white flag holder
Don't forget about the Baguette munition racks.
I would have thought all French tanks come equipped with a small wine barrel somewhere, just like how all British tanks come with a small water heater for making tea.
Pfsif Sorry to tell you but this model didn't come with that. But it does have a cheese storage ben by the driver and baguette warmer in the engine compartment
Pfsif
Every French soldier is issued *their own* corkscrew, as it would be uncouth to expect the soldier to go without wine while looking for one attached to the tank.
The high profile reminds me of the Sherman.
Cool, was wondering what the attachments on the sides were. Makes sense 🙂
That rear access plate is clearly for the trailer wiring hookup. :)
I seem to have missed the part where he showed how to adjust track tension. How am I going to maintain a SOMUA S35 if I come across one?
The S35 did well. One man turret, though.
How did you fill the other fuel tank?
I used to rake with this and the Hotchkiss H35 on WOT.
This early war fanboi is feeling spoilt again, I dread to see what the inside video will reveal (ergonomic nightmare anyone?)
the Char B1 Bis certainly had a few ergonomic issues, so I imagine this one will have some as well
Well, Same turret, so that bit should hold little surprises. And its a 1940 service French tank so the standards are not high. ;0)
Tell the cameraperson to stop creeping the zoom in wider shots, it's really visually distracting and adds nothing of value.
Nick what do you think of the Hill 80 kick starter campaign?
Oh bugger, the tanks on fire!
Sacre bleu, le tank est en feu!
Wow! It even has cup holders 8:35
My understanding was the intent of the AMR vehicles was to provide direct support to the motorised infantry in the division. Actual recon was to be done by the AMD armoured cars. If you look at the TOE of a DLM the AMD are part of one of the brigades, while to find the AMR vehicles you need to go the Motorised Dragoon Regiment (Regiment de Dragons Portes) and then look within the Motorised Dragoons Battalion where they made up one of the 5 squadrons.
You know, you're right, I have the AMD and AMR roles reversed in the video. My mistake.
You guys should do the AMX 50 B
when will part 2 come out?
@The_Chieftain since youre in france, the tiger 2 is coming right?
I would love to see Lorraine 40t and CA Lorraine. I love those tanks and their mobility/Firepower in holy trinity.
What is that opening behind the service drive light?
Ah, that decal. That's the French: romantic even in war.
James Peterson acts as a nice target to.
Is this tank operational? Spark plug at 7:42 seems to be too pristine for just a stationary exhibit.
When you say "turret" it sounds like "turd". Im not complaining, just noticing. Awesome.
There's any uploader who is Irish who has the same inflection.
I really hope you get to spend more time in Saumur.
You gotta do the Renault FT now!
If your curious, the The Museum of the American GI youtube channel has restored a Renault FT, and did a sort of inside the hatch 2 part episode on that. They'll show you everything inside and outside the tank, and drive it around a little.
never noticed his us army tanker boots before ...
How would you fill the larger fuel tank?
French tanks presentations ?
Are you secretly working for Gaijin ?
#Tinfoilhaton
Good! Back to tanks. Used to work on French cars some centuries back and it's interesting to see that their tanks were just as odd as their cars... a mix of brilliance and buffoonery.
French prw-war tank doctrine:"Right,we need a tank for scouting.Then we need a tank for skirmishing.Then we need a tank for firing at the enemy.Then we need a tank to go fight other tanks.Then we need a tank that will attack enemy infantry.Then we will create seperate battalions of each tank and divide them out between each army"....Gen Guderian:"We need lots of very few types of tank organic to each division,with organic infantry in support."
It's a good thing Germany definitely didn't create numerous different types of tanks or subtypes. Didn't create heavy breakthrough tanks just for penetrating the lines. Multiple different armored vehicles and half tracks, and endless new variants of each.
And there is always this implication on these comments that the poster would definitely been much smarter and known exactly what was needed, because hindsight is always perfect and they read some things once. Those silly French, doing the same thing that everyone Else was doing, how stupid!
Just in time for the French episode of Girls und Panzer das Finale. Although it maybe some weeks before that series gets English subtitles.
Wooooo! Bus tank is best tank!
I wish you could do the B.C. 12t
When did they remove the training wheels?
0:01 The Hummel upclosed , is so dam beautiful .
Looking at those side engine access hatches I am not seeing any rubber seals. With that in mind I am going to guess these vehicles could only ford to about the top of the tracks.
That a sound assumption or am I missing something?
That's about right. Or the air intakes. Depends per tank.
You think that most tanks keep water out of the engine compartment with rubber seals? Is the engine compartment in your car sealed off? No. The engine is already sealed to keep the oil inside of it. As long as the electrical system is generally sealed up, you don't need to worry about water on an engine. The limit is wherever the air intake is. If it sucks water into that you have an issue. You can go get a snorkel for your to pickup truck that raises the intake to roof height, and then go drive around in water almost covering the truck. It would be very difficult and pointless to try to completely seal off the engine compartment. Although I doubt they ford very deep anyway because flooding the crew compartment is a real issue.
Der Sumoa war ein guter Panzer der der Wehrmacht eine Menge Probleme gemacht hat.Die Französischen Panzer werden im allgemeinen Unterschätzt,sie waren gut,sind nur Verkehrt eingesetzt worden.
where is part 2?????
need to see inside the su100y
hola notification squad!
Hey Chieftain, if you can, could you give the T-10M a look back at Kubinka?
Well well well, what do we have here! I'm in the middle of building a 1:35 scaled model of one of these and a B1 Bis.
TOG 2 next! :-)
Dutelage.. mechanique.. Adaptus tankus I'm confused! Nice tank though, hard to fix anything in the rear though.
societe de tutellage mecanique = the company of teaching mechanics (as opposed to the hardest language school on earth and yes I attended it)
i'm honestly unsure if you are trying to see "d'outilage" or "de tutellage".
Give this man a radio. We shall call him a codetalker!
i think the rest is d'usinage d'artillerie thing is usine is french for factory and wow my ears
What is the gear setting on a French tank? 5 reverse, 1 forward.
If you can't tell the difference between reverse and forward.
They may not be the best tanks, but I remember kicking a lot of ass in a Somua S35 or a Pz.S35 (f)
I wonder how history might have been different if the USA had purchased 200 S35 in 1935-1936 from France. There appears to have been some spare capacity of several hundred units that was not realized due to budget limits in France. If the US had purchased a couple hundred of these medium tanks when they were still trying to figure things out it might have been more effective than early US tanks and changed the direction of US tank development. Perhaps the US would then put the S40 into prodcution about the same time as M3 Lee. Would the US then opt to produce both S40 and M3 Lee? Perhaps more S40 than Lee? Maybe the US would build the S40 with vertical volute suspension and easier maintenance access? Thousands of US S40 variants might have been better overall in layout than M3 Lee but would a long barreled 47mm gun have been enough? Would the awkward hull mounted 75mm on the M3 Lee be essential after all or could the long 47mm on S40 take out the same tanks at similar distances? Would something like the M4 Sherman have entered production sooner?
Can't wait to see the reverse speed at part 2
Mike P
Sorry but that tank is French, not British ;)
French go reverse into battle.
While amusing to joke about, please remember that the French military history is pretty damn impressive. They nearly conquered the world under Napoleon, held the line in WW1, and didn't do that badly in WW2 all things considered. There is a reason that so many military words are french in origin (reconnaissance, espionage, lieutenant, fusillade, grenade, just to name a few that come to mind).
Tactical Manatee it's just a joke and yes the military history of France sure is impressive especially during the time Napoleon was in charge
Mike ? You're a sack of shite. (It's just a joke too).
We need modern tank classes in WOT
Try making an episode with a go-pro
*ELC!* ELC! *ELC!* ELC! *ELC!* ELC! *ELC!* ELC! *ELC!* ELC! *ELC!* ELC! *ELC!* ELC! *ELC!* ELC! *ELC!* ELC!
Now I know how to pronounce "SOMUA."
Girls und Panzer just showed off their new French-themed school and you are doing a video on one of their tanks. If you are coming to Japan let us know.
Nononono. you got it all wrong. He's doing it for War Thunders "Viva La France" patch coming out tommorow.
0:00 thats not a jagdpanzer 4 on The right ..... right! ??!?!
It is one. The only surviving JPz IV/70(A) of which about 230 were built.
ELC AMX REVIEW PLEASE
that would be pretty awesome, I think there is a surviving prototype
Tactical Manatee It is! And it's located in the museum of armour in Saumur. Chieftain did one of his "High speed unofficial tours" there and actually found it! Here's the link (the tank is featured at minute 1:00): ua-cam.com/video/_JiORX4hpx4/v-deo.html
H35 or AMX 50 next, I think the ELC will never happen
I wonder if these were the tanks the German tanks had a rough time taking out
Why are you pronouncing it SOMUR when it's SOMUA
Why did the French call their tanks "Automated Machiengun"?
Automitrailleuse is the French for Armored Car.
@@dse763
I know but the literal translation is "automated machinegun" since the French use "mitrailleuse" for machineguns. I found that weird. Is it doctrinal? Did the French initially consider armored cars as "a device for moving a machinegun". I know why the Anglos call their tanks...well...tanks but the automitrailleuse thing is just a bit weird.
The Crimson Fucker actually it's in the video. This is a Cavalry vehicle: only infantry could have tanks.
So cav choose a tracked car carrying a machine gun and a cannon.
What? Looks like a tank? Parbleu! It wasn't supposed to.
@@fabiogalletti528
I got that, see the above two comments in the chain. I just found it funny that out of all of the things they could've called it they went with "machinegun on a motor".
The Crimson Fucker ah ok, sorry. I'm sure someone else in '20 &' 30 called officially "self propelled machine gun" or "MG carriage" one of those tankette of the era.
But yes, this seems a bit grown-up to be a "MG on wheels".
I realy do like your videos , Only suggestion can you please loose the annoying music throughout the entire video?.
Inside the Chieftain's hatch: Object 140 please
Story of the French army 1940; too few, too late