I made a discrete clock from scratch using an EPROM to display all segments for a digit at once. But the way the clock circuit was built made the propagation delays really add up in 24 hours time. It worked using the line frequency, or a repurposed wall clock circuit. Furthermore I built it to multiplex the digits with far fewer data and signal lines for a remote display. In the end it was to demonstrate clock and multiplexing technology in non standard ways.
I don't know why people keep dissing Ben's clock. Sure Felix's clock has more features but Ben's clock is arguable funner to design and build. The low level complexity is part of the draw and the 'mess' of wiring looks neat! That said, I'll stick to my smart phone for my time keeping needs 😐
Well there is a lot less to say since it used more ready made components, RTC, LCD, MCU, you know they're already made to do what they do right out of the box. I thought Felix covered the component layout and and the expanded clock features concisely.
(Well thats annoying, it seems UA-cam filtered out my comment from a few days ago, probably because it had a URL in it...) I also built my own clock entirely out of transistors (about 1500 of them) implementing NOR logic. I cant post a link directly to it here, but if you go to github and search for user tomstorey then you should find a repo with all of the schematics in it, and a link to a blog where I covered the entire design and build process. So I would vote for Bens clock, because I appreciate the pure hardware implementation more so than a software one.
14:30 If you're curious, they're called saccadic eye movements, they also say when added up you lose as much as 45 minutes in a day due to your brain 'filling in' the parts of your vision that have been erased while moving your eyes.
I do like Felixes clock because it has everyting (time, date) but like the pixelated display of Ben's clock that can be seen in the dark. So could you make such a clock?
Ben's reminds me of the seven segment display counter I had to design in my old engineering class...including the transistor based decoder...twice, cause (as we later concluded) the some of the chips were burnt out
I've built simpler versions of both of those clocks before. I made one with a character OLED display with an AtMega644p and then made a clock that used a mains transformer to keep time and provide power based on the one Dave Jones has on his channel. The second one was fun because if you touched the wrong part of the board you got tingles.
You will learn more hardware design struggles and low level circuit design from Ben's clock, Felix clock is more about software and high level design. Its apples to oranges, they are both good clock designs.
for my capstone design project, i used a microcontroller to make a countdown timer activated by speech recognition (ended up using software and an arduino uno for that). It communicated wirelessly via XBees
I’m going with Ben’s clock because his clock looks easy to use and easy to read. Sometimes it’s just nice to have something easy to use with just one purpose and not to have to worry about all the extra features added on for you to deal with.
Both clock are so well made and fulfill their purpose but Ben's clock seems so much better! For me it's so good I wouldn't mind telling time hahaha! Great challenge!!
Ben's clock because it is by far the easiest to read and that's an important requirement. I made a clock with an Arduino nano (cheap and small) , an I2C RT-timer and a TM1638 "LED & KEY" module/board (= 8x buttons, 8x led and 8x 7-segment displays) . It is very compact solution and super bright!
Could I use a wireless arduino-compatible micro controller in the MCU-based clock to update the time once it connects to the internet 🤔 I liked Ben’s clock more too, because it was so 1980s like and I liked it. 😀
lol. Ben's clock circuit looks a lot like when I was trying to work out the design kinks in a speedometer that effectively used an array of LED's to take the place of a pointer. Really quite absurd, but I intended it mostly for visual effect over anything else...
That is why I prefer the boards where you have to cut the lines to break the connection in stead of wiring everything like that, although it probably requires more wires on the top of the board
In this week's episode of The Ben heck Show, the regrettable acting dial has been set to 9001 and hilarity ensues. Watch as Ben and Felix sync their expectations to reality and get down to rocking their clocks off! 🤣
I love both of them. I like Felix's for how modern it is, but I really enjoy Ben's for how from scratch it is. I would want to own Ben's. I actually want it really bad : /
It pains me to see how Felix is struggling in front of the camera, since I'm seeing myself. He is extremely knowledgable, but you can see he is unconfortable with the situation. The bad thing is that it only gets better with practice. I speak from experience...
It's good as long as it does not hold him back professionally. Because unfortunately, a lot of people will think that you're unsure about what you are saying while instead your brain is just constantly turning over and over making sure you're not saying anything slightly wrong.
This is really hard to judge. Felix has much more functions and whole thing feels better (being it on standalone board i would maybe even buy them :D) but Ben's on the other hand are much more elaborate and i would say much harder to design and create. For me its win win guys! Great video by the way ;-)
I like that Ben's clock is LED based, but I assume it has bad skew and is therefore a bad clock. I like that Felix's design is robust and if it had the LED display, it would be even better.
Ben's like, "Here's my TTL clock! Don Lancaster would be proud!" Felix just says, "Okay boomer," and whips out an arduino clock which accounts for clock drift due to temperature. 🤣
I liked Ben's "retro" clock design, but I would probably have built something like what Felix did. I usually prefer doing things in software vs hardware.
Felix's clock, while impressive feature-wise, seems like less of a technical feat to me. I like them both, but Ben's just speaks to me, you could say... on a low level. Also, I want to see that sloth!
I had to with a group of three or four other people to make a working military time clock with an alarm out of TTL logic chips that had to have a semi accurate clock to a minute by like 20-30 seconds for a school project my freshman year of college
Ben wins! Felix cheated by using someone else's clock circuit (the RTC). He then used the micro to read the time from the RTC and format it out to the display. Ben truely designed his own clock circuit and display driver circuit...
I made a discrete clock from scratch using an EPROM to display all segments for a digit at once. But the way the clock circuit was built made the propagation delays really add up in 24 hours time. It worked using the line frequency, or a repurposed wall clock circuit. Furthermore I built it to multiplex the digits with far fewer data and signal lines for a remote display. In the end it was to demonstrate clock and multiplexing technology in non standard ways.
part of the charm of TBHS is the "regrettable" acting.
Dave Amos Still hurts at times.
;)
I miss the regrettable acting.
The acting is indeed...regrettable. One of the best parts of the show!
That's what we signed up for
Ben's is by far the best. You'll learn a lot more about electronics by this 1st principles logic approach.
I don't know why people keep dissing Ben's clock. Sure Felix's clock has more features but Ben's clock is arguable funner to design and build. The low level complexity is part of the draw and the 'mess' of wiring looks neat! That said, I'll stick to my smart phone for my time keeping needs 😐
Really?? don't' show like half of Ben's build and NONE of Felix's build?? what's the point.
That's what I'd call a clock block.
I second that motion; they only showed a minute part of the build process. :(
Well there is a lot less to say since it used more ready made components, RTC, LCD, MCU, you know they're already made to do what they do right out of the box. I thought Felix covered the component layout and and the expanded clock features concisely.
I have to choose Ben, it's the Logical choice !!!!!
Felix seems 1000% more confident !
craig still he has changed much in a good way
100%
Does Felix have his own show these days somewhere out on the net?
Absolutely love your 7400 series clock
(Well thats annoying, it seems UA-cam filtered out my comment from a few days ago, probably because it had a URL in it...)
I also built my own clock entirely out of transistors (about 1500 of them) implementing NOR logic. I cant post a link directly to it here, but if you go to github and search for user tomstorey then you should find a repo with all of the schematics in it, and a link to a blog where I covered the entire design and build process.
So I would vote for Bens clock, because I appreciate the pure hardware implementation more so than a software one.
Both clocks were awesome!
14:30 If you're curious, they're called saccadic eye movements, they also say when added up you lose as much as 45 minutes in a day due to your brain 'filling in' the parts of your vision that have been erased while moving your eyes.
the regrettable acting is the best yet!
Love the 74 clock. I have built a very basic clock with a uC and numitron tubes. Its so pretty.
It's great to see you turn up the regrettable acting!
I do like Felixes clock because it has everyting (time, date) but like the pixelated display of Ben's clock that can be seen in the dark. So could you make such a clock?
I miss the "BATTEN DOWN THE HATCHES!!!".
I love the old style TTL clock. Nice job!
Ben's reminds me of the seven segment display counter I had to design in my old engineering class...including the transistor based decoder...twice, cause (as we later concluded) the some of the chips were burnt out
I've built simpler versions of both of those clocks before. I made one with a character OLED display with an AtMega644p and then made a clock that used a mains transformer to keep time and provide power based on the one Dave Jones has on his channel. The second one was fun because if you touched the wrong part of the board you got tingles.
You guys made these clocks day after my birthday. Kickass
You will learn more hardware design struggles and low level circuit design from Ben's clock, Felix clock is more about software and high level design. Its apples to oranges, they are both good clock designs.
If I want the same type of rotary click from a piezo, do I need an active or passive? For some reason active are cheaper.
Finally an episode, that fells like Ben has fun at his craft again
for my capstone design project, i used a microcontroller to make a countdown timer activated by speech recognition (ended up using software and an arduino uno for that). It communicated wirelessly via XBees
Felix's clock, and by a long long distance. :-)
You do realize felix his clock is a kit right?
I’m going with Ben’s clock because his clock looks easy to use and easy to read. Sometimes it’s just nice to have something easy to use with just one purpose and not to have to worry about all the extra features added on for you to deal with.
Both clock are so well made and fulfill their purpose but Ben's clock seems so much better! For me it's so good I wouldn't mind telling time hahaha! Great challenge!!
That opening... I had to pause the video and take a moment to process it.
Ben's clock because it is by far the easiest to read and that's an important requirement. I made a clock with an Arduino nano (cheap and small) , an I2C RT-timer and a TM1638 "LED & KEY" module/board (= 8x buttons, 8x led and 8x 7-segment displays) . It is very compact solution and super bright!
This show is awesome and i love both clocks! keep up the great work.
Oh my the acting is sooo bad. It hurts 😫
It hurts so good!
I saw terrible acting at some big budget hollywood movies.
That's the charme!
true
They are getting better tho imo
Could I use a wireless arduino-compatible micro controller in the MCU-based clock to update the time once it connects to the internet 🤔
I liked Ben’s clock more too, because it was so 1980s like and I liked it. 😀
lol. Ben's clock circuit looks a lot like when I was trying to work out the design kinks in a speedometer that effectively used an array of LED's to take the place of a pointer.
Really quite absurd, but I intended it mostly for visual effect over anything else...
Good God... The back... It's... Horrendous...
Horrendously beautiful ;)
That is why I prefer the boards where you have to cut the lines to break the connection in stead of wiring everything like that, although it probably requires more wires on the top of the board
All the wires are the same color! AAAAAAH
What kind of wire do you use?
In this week's episode of The Ben heck Show, the regrettable acting dial has been set to 9001 and hilarity ensues. Watch as Ben and Felix sync their expectations to reality and get down to rocking their clocks off! 🤣
how can you choose from two such a brilliant clocks???
Any schematics for Bens clock?
Great episode. Great designs!
Felix won, but I think it should be noted that Ben's clock took the hard way to get the job done. 74 series logic clock...
Great job both of you. Felix has my vote for best clock. Can you say that on youtube?
I don't know what's worse, the acting or Felix's eyebrows... Much love Felix 😅
I love both of them. I like Felix's for how modern it is, but I really enjoy Ben's for how from scratch it is. I would want to own Ben's. I actually want it really bad : /
It pains me to see how Felix is struggling in front of the camera, since I'm seeing myself. He is extremely knowledgable, but you can see he is unconfortable with the situation. The bad thing is that it only gets better with practice. I speak from experience...
It's good as long as it does not hold him back professionally. Because unfortunately, a lot of people will think that you're unsure about what you are saying while instead your brain is just constantly turning over and over making sure you're not saying anything slightly wrong.
You could've made a case for them, something stylish, maybe black...
So then there would be two *big black clocks* by the end of the episode.
Felix's clock was the best. The only improvement that I can think of is an e-ink display for less power draw.
This is really hard to judge. Felix has much more functions and whole thing feels better (being it on standalone board i would maybe even buy them :D) but Ben's on the other hand are much more elaborate and i would say much harder to design and create. For me its win win guys! Great video by the way ;-)
I like Felix's! The piezo speaker for clicks was a nice touch.
felix is embracing the regretable acting more and more
felix went the route i go. finished another clock last night, im down to 1 more RTC breakout that im saving for a matrix panel clock.
Felix's clock looks simpler, but it would be nice to see one using 7segments displays!
Ben's slowly getting used to Australian slang. Absolute beauty!
Honestly, big fan of RTCs. Felix's clock for the win.
Eevblog has a video about a somewhat similar clock to Ben's running off mains frequency. It's way better explained, worth a watch if you liked this.
I like that Ben's clock is LED based, but I assume it has bad skew and is therefore a bad clock. I like that Felix's design is robust and if it had the LED display, it would be even better.
I'm a sucker for 7400 series logic so that's gotta take the cake for me.
Ohhhhhh, he said "CLOCK off". lol
ElectronAsh my clock is bigger!!
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Will have to choose the microcontroller as my favorite.
Wow. Felix is finally getting into it.
Ben, your clock and your T-SHIRT are the best, man 😄
I built a clock making my own 7 segment displays with addressable LEDs :D Each digit is like 20cm high, i love it :D
So difficult to choose! I think I'd go with Ben's for the sheer ridiculousness of it...
I'd put bens on the wall and Felix's on my wrist somehow.
I prefer big watches, I can see them easier.
Just one question... What the heck is a 'Clahck'?
The want to live in a world with Star Wars again seems to have returned. :)
Felix's clock in an arm-based case, isn't just a watch, it's a pipboy
Ben's like, "Here's my TTL clock! Don Lancaster would be proud!" Felix just says, "Okay boomer," and whips out an arduino clock which accounts for clock drift due to temperature. 🤣
I like both, a tie... The winner will be the first one to add Unix time as a feature (TTL vs MCU = Fight!).
I liked Ben's "retro" clock design, but I would probably have built something like what Felix did. I usually prefer doing things in software vs hardware.
Fun episode. I like LEDs (have way too many in my parts stash) so you know which clock I voted for (sorry Felix).
Ben, you're a madman.
Ben’s clock. I appreciate things more that are made from scratch.
You blow my mind, what schooling did you have Ben?
I like Felix's clock. It's neat. I kinda want one
you guys doubled down on the "regrettable acting" on this one :)
Why is it that the show has gotten good again , when its ending?
when did nintendo release the ds 3231 and i never got to use the ds 3230 ):
your brain temporarily blinds us to prevent motion sickness
For me Ben won. I wasn't going to put this in the comments as I assumed everyone else would agree, but apparently it's swinging the other way!
Felix totally owned this!
“I mean, it’s not a theory, I know it works.” So, it’s a theory rather than a hypothesis?
Jeepers those cutters are enormous. There like 5 times the size of my Xcelite cutters.
Felix's clock, while impressive feature-wise, seems like less of a technical feat to me. I like them both, but Ben's just speaks to me, you could say... on a low level. Also, I want to see that sloth!
I would say Felix... But ben's clock looks really cool.
Felix by a million miles - however, Ben did a great "old school" method.
I had to with a group of three or four other people to make a working military time clock with an alarm out of TTL logic chips that had to have a semi accurate clock to a minute by like 20-30 seconds for a school project my freshman year of college
Bens was like a Minecraft clock where as Felix used Scrap Mechanic.
Ben what are you going to do with all this extra time?
Ben wins!
Felix cheated by using someone else's clock circuit (the RTC). He then used the micro to read the time from the RTC and format it out to the display.
Ben truely designed his own clock circuit and display driver circuit...
can u mod a ps2 controller
Please build a robot project using the odrive I would love to see something like that.
Ben i have a challenge for you ,a lot of us collect laserdiscs ,they players are getting old ,So could you make a laserdisc player using a DVD player
Use those glass tubes with numbers in them for another one.
Beastman44 They're called Nixie Tubes.
Nixie Tubes are undeniably splendid
New intro, yay.
Felix clock, way more useful for way less screen time.
20:49 There's Maclawk X^D
Soooo;
What's a cluck off again?
Sorry Felix but Ben wins this one for me. It just has more character and soul put into it 🙂
What an odd pair of men