PRC never set foot on Taiwan. This is PROOF that ROC in Taiwan has always been separate and independent from the PRC. Mao failed twice to invade Taiwan. Our victories in Kinmen already solidified Taiwan’s separation & independence from the PRC.
@@robwon8378 Chiang Kai Shek fled to Taiwan when he lost to the CPC, if China(Mainland) and Taiwan is not one entity, please explain the status of the Taiwan Island before Chiang arrived there.
Whether or not America is capable of intervening on the Taiwan issue, the question of LEGITIMACY for doing so should be considered. What business does America have in inserting itsrlf IN A CIVIL WAR of another SOVEREIGN nation?
We are talking about the US here, 800+ military bases around the globe.. They literally want to convert the globe into their way of thinking & ideologies.. Basically they want to steal resources from countries around the globe to support US corporations..Or else a Coup or economic sanctions
The question is do brainwashed americans let their neocon goverment to led they once again in to a path that doesnt benefit the americans at all and once again will run away like a beaten dog and leave taiwan chinese to suffer from the out come.
Amazing, in 1911 the arrogant Republicans want to take down a 4000 year old dynastic reign and replace with an American style Republic. Even more amazing, those living in it show no gratitude to those who have helped them so much.
In America we have a congressman who doesn't understand the connection or disconnection of WiFi and his phone...how can this kind of leader😂 form the greatest leadership?!
All said, the US n its gang of criminals has no rights to interfere in the internal affairs of countries that are thousands of km away from their borders. The days of colonialism where these criminals can enjoy massive benifits at the expense of others suffering is over
I learn so much from Professor Powell's well-articulated responses to Jay's intelligent questions as well as Jay's interpretation of Prof. Powell's responses. Looking forward to a subsequent interview with Prof. Powell. Great job Jay.
Jays first question was anything but intelligent. It indicated profound lack of understand of how the world works. "Should Taiwan arm itself so the US doesn't have to "help" them so much." What are you smoking buddy? Without the US involved there is no conflict in the first place. How do you think a bunch of Christian fascists fled the mainland and ended up on that Island in the first place? How many Americans know what it means when US leaders say "we lost China" or know that the US has already invaded and occupied China previously?
PHCKNG BS, this is a proxy war the Western Cult which holds the WEST hostage has started long ago... made to appear as a civil war... another guest who turns into the same type blind pundits we keep suffering.
what does race have to do with it?? I'm American but have lived almost 50 years in Taiwan...I've traveled heavily throughout Asia and lived in hk and China. Am I a typical Westerner? You sure sound like a typical Hong Konger!
“I am from Taiwan and I wish to see unification in my lifetime.” The vast majority of your countrymen disagree. Taiwan has never been part of China, so you can’t ‘re'unify. There was a 19-year period in the 19th century when the Qing claimed Taiwan as a prefecture, but that claim was not taken seriously by analysts of the time because China did not control the main island. At one point, they said they would make a coast guard but did not. They did manage to erect a lighthouse. This was in the backdrop of negotiations over the Treaty of Shimonoseki and was believed by some to have been a bargaining chip. The fact is, Taiwan was undesirable due to the prevalence of malaria and the presence of the Austronesian Taiwanese. It was a rough place and few Chinese ventured there. Perhaps you have other reasons that are not historical. I might imagine a few. What are yours?
@@gamingtideX “Never been part of Taiwan?” I think you meant to say “Never been part of China.” Are you really Taiwanese? You might want to cut back on whatever you’re smoking. Let’s narrow this down. Since it’s impossible to prove a negative, why don’t you tell us when you believe the main island of Taiwan was controlled by China, what form that control took, and provide any evidence or citations you have for that.
Great discussion!! Let’s invite Kishore Mahbubani, and Einer Tangen to discuss these issues and deepen our understanding of China and the beginnings of our multi nodal future!! Professor Powell was excellent in teaching us how the U.S. and the West is going through a process of grief as primacy is no longer in its grasp!!
Prof. Warwick Powell demonstrably showed how deeply and minutely understand and appreciate the subtlety and nuances of Chinese culture and civilisation. Bravo Prof. Powell!!!👏
Many will think the US will defend Taiwan but I think the US won't risk total nuclear war with China. To China, Taiwan is a legitimacy issue (an existential issue) while to America, Taiwan is just a game, like Ukraine. At best, the US would provide weapons so that Taiwanese could fight China to the last Taiwanese man. And sanctions by the whole western world to break both China-occupied Taiwan and China Mainland, making the East Asia/ASEAN a mess, which is a valuable chance to bring back manufacturing to Europe/America. That's the strategy of western elite.
Don't look now, but they are already armed. Americans have the right to bare arms. I wonder if China would be as tranquil as Hawaii if the Chinese had that right also. Hmm.
@@cutbaitgofishing It would be a very different proposition if China were to arm the residents of Texas, wouldn't it? That is the rough equivalent of the US arming Taiwan.
@shanewilson2484 That is because of the brainwashing ..of the Dpp government affecting the young...3 million Taiwanese use to live and work in the mainland..in the 90s onward...
I listened to 46m and was compelled to write my two cents. Had listened to Prof Powell interviews by other UA-camr but this is by far a most excellent lecture from him. I suspect Jay was also thoroughly educated by him.
Great piece of work, very educational. I am surprised he thinks like a typical Chinese . Also very honest . Americans should study this text. .A big thank you to both of you !
ROC for all intents and purposes, have ceased to exist since the formation of PRC in 1949. It’s therefore wrong to call the island of Taiwan as ROC, it’s parts of the PRC and the ROC preceding to the later. The recognition of PRC by the US under its One China policy lends credence to the sovereignty of PRC. To use the Taiwan issue to contain China is uncalled for, devout of legitimacy.
Jay, thank you for conducting such an informative interview with Professor Warwick Powell. It not only provided some valuable historical background on Western and Eastern policies but also provided better macro perspectives on the current and future hegemonic cultural changes that are in transitioning toward the multipolar world that is happening before our eyes. Truly thought provoking!
US and its allies had better NOT to get involved in resolving Taiwan issue simply due its unfinished civil war nature and where secessionism involved; The same is true for China not to get involved with any separatist issue within Europe like Northern Ireland agt UK, and Catalunya agt Spain. Non-interference over the other country internal politics is a golden rule of thumb comprising mutual respect and peaceful co-existence. This rule must not be empowered only by saying, rather preferentially by honestly unbiased acting upon it.
Jay, your content is always quite good - in that context I think this has been your best release to date. Yes, please make a second. Regarding length, yes long, in this case that is not a negative. Very well done. Thank you for your hard work.
Key take away-- the Taiwan island issue should be viewed in the context of a civil war. Up until 1990, the island administration itself had retaking the mainland and to rule over the ENTIRE Chinese territory itself as its main goal. BUT. America saw the strategic USE of the island for its own geopolitical purpose...
I bet Jay is never going to give your comment a 'like", even though your really summarized Professor Warwick's analysis about the Taiwan issue in a brief and accurate way
Overall speaking, really love the sharing from professor warwick. This is what an economist should be doing, no west biased, no China biased, just doing the history and current status clarification and analysis, and sharing the people who people should be approaching further economic development based on the real mechanism of the economy. Really appreciate professor Warwick's job. The funny part of this interview was, the anchor Jay was trying to bring a narrative of "China is being aggressive and wrongly doing towards this world" into this interview, but after professor warwick shared his views about those topics, i can tell that Jay found himself do know how to continue calculating his original narrative further more, hahaha… funny… But thank you Jay anyway for bring professor warwick here.
What a great discussion, that is so much more than 'China's Secret Strategy title'! I wanted to stop listening during this 2hr session but couldn't. Great interview Jay.
Finally, great explanation, clear and concise with accurate historic context. US politicians should spend time watching your show and to get some basic education, rather than sending young men and women out to fight wars that does not need to be.
The US couldn't care less, many of these politicians have large amounts of shares in military industrial complex companies listed publicly on the NYSE. It's war for profits scenario, & that's the goal is to keep the fighting going around the globe..
First time to come across yr channel. Purely hit it because of prof Powell. Subscribed. Thanks for best and such an incredible guest who absolutely explains everything simple and so clear!! Impressed to the tee
Thank you, Prof Powell. Your wide swathe of knowledge and brilliant articulation made this one of the best dispositions I have ever heard. ❤ Great choice, Jay.
I absolutely loved this presentation, and I was very impressed with Warwick Powell. He was very articulate and detailed in the matter that was addressed which was very impressive. He certainly took the time to prepare this podcast. or he really know his material. which the latter is more appropriate. Thank you again.
I am utterly perplexed how these discussions about the Republic of China (aka ROC Taiwan) and the People's Republic of China (aka PRC Mainland China) are still up for debate in Western Driven media? How about we all listen to the citizens of the ROC Taiwan. The citizens of ROC Taiwan had voted in January 2024, 60% AGAINST the proUSA party (who now run a minority government due to ROC Taiwan's 3 party system). That is, 60% of the citizens of ROC Taiwan want USA and the Western World to LEAVE THEM ALONE. ROC Taiwan and PRC China have a healthy trading relationship. Tens of thousands of ROC Taiwanese cross over to China to run their businesses there on a daily basis. The ROC Taiwanese are happy with the Status Quo. The only major contenders are USA (who order their allies to comply) who travel over 10,000km away from their country to run weekly Military cruise ships and Military Planes, up and down China's maritime borders. Why? They need to go back and fix up their own problems, like FREEING HAWAII which they illegally occupied. The relationship between PRC China and ROC Taiwan are similar to the relationship with the Commonwealth of Australia and the UK. Even though Australia is a Commonwealth of England, we run as a Republic, with our own Prime Minister and our own Currency. We are OK with the Status Quo and we just live our lives the way we choose. ROC Taiwan is a province of PRC China (as officially recognised by the UN, and counter signed by USA). ROC Taiwan run like a Republic with their own President and their own Currency. As with Australia, they overwhelming majority of citizens are OK with the status quo (where in Australia, we also have a minority group called ARM, the Australian Republican Movement, who create some noise, but we ignore them because we don't care, as long as England does not bother us). China is NOT going to invade ROC Taiwan, because ROC Taiwan is already a province of China. England is NOT going to invade Australia because Australia is already a Commonwealth of England. These discussion of ROC Taiwan and PRC China are extremely disrespectful ... all because USA wants to create another Proxy War, this time in South East Asia.
It's actually a great debate the fact that that Jay took the time to share this information to the world is very appreciative. Don't take it for granted these type of videos. But yea I agree what you said. Taiwan should be united back to China
As a fellow Australian you have to realise by now that this country is also run by zio nazis and they will back US every way. Look at the money all of a sudden to weapons $368billion in 4yrs for nuclear submarines, japan-au (US silent partner) underwater warfare project, those are clear sign that US is making military bases (in AU, Japan, Philippines) with the purpose of using our countries for a proxy war with China (same as Ukraine and look at the devastation there).
China currently produces more STEM graduates annually than the rest of the world, the US included. Think of the implications that has in a world in which AI will drive change.
Pro Warwick Powell explanation of China-Taiwan issue is both precise and concise. Explicitly explained the complexities of the issue,well done Professor!
I listen to quite a lot of geo politics interviews, and this is definitely one of the best. Prof Powell’s historical knowledge on China and Taiwan is impressive, and his take on the global situation is very insightful. Great food for thought. Look forward to part two!
Prof Powell the most deeply knowledgable person I have listened to in decades. Well worth the extended time of the interview. Apart from giving us a much-needed education on the history of Taiwan and US intervention there, he dives much more deeply into how wealth is generated, and why the leading economy CANNOT be the leading economy forever: like everything else human (universe??), dynamic, i.e., innovative, economies progress through juvenile, maturity, and old age/decline.
Thank you so very much for this interview. Warwick Powell is both knowledgeable and wise, and has helped me to understand the current situation in the world better. And it is very good to see an interviewer making notes, reflecting, recaping and really taking in new ideas. I am a teacher and this is what I like to see--genuine curiosity. Thanks again.
China's Belt and Road Initiative is not only growing China's trade with the Global South. It's also enabling Chinese industries to access raw materials more efficiently. In many cases, it has enabled those industries to lock in crucial components of their supply chains, which is an obvious threat to Western competitors.
I sit as a peon, making idle observations. It is a nice question you raise. I have heard some in Southeast Asia saying they prefer to deal with the Chinese than with more conventional capital sources. However, China has now made two laws they say apply to everyone in the world. One was no complaining about China taking over in Hong Kong. And the other is no saying that Taiwan should be independent. They have also gone around the world having countries sign a document agreeing that Taiwan should not be independent. In other words, they are leveraging their belt and road loans, which many governments are behind on, to have government agree to Chinese policy and laws. This has also given them extra leverage at the UN. Consequently there are people calling Belt and Road a policy of debt enslavement. I found it very interesting that one of the justifications the Chinese gave for the Hong Kong Security Law being international is that 'The Americans did the same thing before" and they cited some of the worst of American policies. I.e. two wrongs make a right, or the first one creates the precedent for the Chinese to do it too. It would be so much better if they aspired to making a better world rather than demanding their seat at the table for carving up the world.
@@hhf39p I don't see any problem for this. Only very few tiny countries admit Taiwan as a country, and the country which deals with China needs to admit one China policy already. No special for BRI.
@@hhf39p Hong Kong is originally China's territory. If Hong Kong returns to China, it is part of China. Shouldn't Hong Kong follow China's national security law? The exchanges between countries must have some of the most basic points of agreement, such as United Nations Resolution 2758. Only if you acknowledge it will I be willing to associate with you. If a country is unwilling to recognize it, then there will be no exchanges. Isn't this normal?
@@hhf39p Places such as Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Xinjiang are China’s inherent territories. Will China carve up the world if it takes back its own territory? How funny. If you don't know these things, you can read more history books.
Part II for sure. Part III also welcome on any subject challenging our lives in the upcoming years ahead. My hat off to Dr. Powell, an erudite highbrow.
The "status quo" was never intense nor uneasy, at least to the people living in Taiwan island and Mainland China. Everybody was just going about their own business, and prospering. It was only made to seem so by American corporate media, who are beholden to the billionaire's club of the US military-industrial complex.
The definition of civil war, overall the one China is mainland & Taiwan as recognised by the UN. As the mainland, CPC stresses that they want a peaceful reunification but the USA would like to make Taiwan an USA proxi to counter or weaken CPC.
That was Yesterday mate. The US is no longer a Global Hegemone. Putin has destroyed that Image of US being a Global Hegemone. The US is Naked. Thank you Putin🇷🇺🇨🇳 vs 🇺🇲🏳️🌈
Prof Jeffrey Sachs also had an interview lately with Tucker Carlson, he explained the issue of Taiwan pretty succinctly and easy to understand. Don’t miss that interview, I encourage everyone to check it out.
For decades, China has been purchasing Western-made chips at high prices and considered imposing high tariffs on them but was restricted by WTO rules. China has long sought to develop a domestic chip supply chain. Thanks to U.S. policies under the Trump administration, China has accelerated the development of a complete chip ecosystem, covering both upstream and downstream industries. China has several major chip hub cities, which are home to many semiconductor companies, research institutions, and startups involved in chip design, manufacturing, and testing, while also integrating talent, research, and a robust supply chain network.
Jay, its amazing that you can summarize such a complex discussion so succinctly while I am still trying to digest the complexity. great job... keep up the good work.. bring on more great guests
Professor Powell is amazing! Of all the informed and intelligent speakers on both sides of the Taiwan dispute, he is undoubtedly in my mind the most knowledgeable and most able to comprehensively and accurately contextualize the state of affairs of this dispute.
This was a great guest. Warwick Powell is a very knowledgeable expert on many of the issues we should be discussing in the West. Jay looks like your bread-and-butter Westerner-cool, relaxed, kind of a matter-of-factly guy-but he's trying really hard (all my respect to him for that) not to look sarcastic or entitled. That's why I respect him even more. People like him in the West are so uninterested in listening to what Powell has to say that they wouldn't even start a conversation on the subject, let alone be willing to not constantly and derailingly interrupt someone with this perspective. Jay, however, really walks the walk of asking things everybody knows they should ask but are afraid to. And he listens, with respect and real appreciation. Kudos for that my man.
With respect to Taiwan issue. We have to pay attention to the why and how neocons in Washington can do and want to do to provoke and inflict a military confrontation over Taiwan. I think Chinese is fully aware of the tricky part of neocons thinking which is to use Taiwan as a proxy to fight against China and at the same time to raise economic sanction (including seize of China foreign reserve and assets), yet China is only aimed to take on US when Taiwan issue comes to realization. This suggests Pentagon must do its calculation before march on its fleet, which is why PLA is purposefully and overtly flexing its muscle observable by the Pentagon. With the overwhelming firepower near the coast of China, the Pentagon had done numerous war game without any one predicted US on the winning side, and the US political elite know they will NO longer be a global hegemon, but a regional power to north American with collapsed dollar bankruptcy when the conflict with PLA is ended.
Re-subbed for Professor Powell. Great talk. It would be amazing for humanity if the US and the West stayed out of everyone's business and minded their own.
1949 Xinjiang 1950 Hainan and Zhoushan Archipelago 1951 Tibet 1954 Yijiangshan and Dachen Islands Various skirmishes in Indian border lands 1974 Paracel Islands 1988 Islands in the South China Sea, among them Fiery Cross Reef, Hughes Reef, Nanxun Reef, Subi Reef, Mischief Reef 2005 some border territories with Russia 2008 1,000 km² of Tajikistan 2009 made artificial land in the South China Sea, then claimed new borders Current territorial disputes with Japan, Vietnam, and the Philippines Rumor that Putin is trading more Russian land for Chinese support China claims all of the “9-dashed line” naval area What I wonder. Given that China is such a great believer in historical lands, are they planning to give back to Mongolia their historical lands?
Historically, what taiwan really wants is to become the capital of china, not a new country. They were the head government of china 75 years ago, and always dream to come back and rule china again. Also, Taiwan also argued that Taiwan should take place of china as the “permanent five” in 1971 but failed. It is unfinished civil war and the main issue is who is the real owner of china. 🎉
If any of you don’t believe Taiwan is part of China, let me tell you this: the government of Taiwan is called Republic of China; in its constitution, Taiwan and mainland China are both its territory.
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My mom is KMT and my dad is PRC. Born in the west but I definitely know that I am Chinese.
U r whatever your dad is. Neehow.
That could be like saying you’re Arab when one parent is from Saudi and the Other is from UAE
Taiwan is a province of the PRC and will always remain so. No amount of American shannanigans can dislodge Taiwan Prefecture from the PRC.
PRC never set foot on Taiwan. This is PROOF that ROC in Taiwan has always been separate and independent from the PRC. Mao failed twice to invade Taiwan. Our victories in Kinmen already solidified Taiwan’s separation & independence from the PRC.
your statement is simply delusion of the highest order. As the financialization of US comes to an end, one will be amazed how fast Taiwan will fold.
Taiwan is not even Taiwans name , look it up ..
Btw
The USA does not give two shits about Taiwans independence…. They care about micro chip technology
@@robwon8378Then why not try to declare independence?
@@robwon8378 Chiang Kai Shek fled to Taiwan when he lost to the CPC, if China(Mainland) and Taiwan is not one entity, please explain the status of the Taiwan Island before Chiang arrived there.
The underline fact is Taiwan is a province not a country.
Anyone who knows a little about international law knows that you are talking nonsense.
@@NingLiu-g5uif you were to know a little bit more of international law, you would realize he is absolutely right.
@@NingLiu-g5u international laws to suit America?
The unwritten & undefined US’ creation, the so called Rules based international order😂
@@NingLiu-g5uyou’re rubbish
Whether or not America is capable of intervening on the Taiwan issue, the question of LEGITIMACY for doing so should be considered.
What business does America have in inserting itsrlf IN A CIVIL WAR of another SOVEREIGN nation?
We are talking about the US here, 800+ military bases around the globe.. They literally want to convert the globe into their way of thinking & ideologies.. Basically they want to steal resources from countries around the globe to support US corporations..Or else a Coup or economic sanctions
Every single country in Latin America has asked themselves the same question
@@jacobjorgenson9285 And many countries in the Middle East and Asia.
The question is do brainwashed americans let their neocon goverment to led they once again in to a path that doesnt benefit the americans at all and once again will run away like a beaten dog and leave taiwan chinese to suffer from the out come.
Precisely! 😂
Amazing......a 268 year old country wanna civilized a 4000 year old civilization with fundamentalist religion:)
Amazing, in 1911 the arrogant Republicans want to take down a 4000 year old dynastic reign and replace with an American style Republic. Even more amazing, those living in it show no gratitude to those who have helped them so much.
The US is the only nation to go from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between.
Outrageous!
Now we know why religious proselytizing is banned in China!
Delusional!
In America we have a congressman who doesn't understand the connection or disconnection of WiFi and his phone...how can this kind of leader😂 form the greatest leadership?!
think your president has Alzheimer's disease too... needs to be in a nursing home asap
All said, the US n its gang of criminals has no rights to interfere in the internal affairs of countries that are thousands of km away from their borders. The days of colonialism where these criminals can enjoy massive benifits at the expense of others suffering is over
Well said, thank you Sir.
I learn so much from Professor Powell's well-articulated responses to Jay's intelligent questions as well as Jay's interpretation of Prof. Powell's responses. Looking forward to a subsequent interview with Prof. Powell. Great job Jay.
I've never seen a UA-cam comment like this one before.
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. . . And america will also NOT see this discussion.
It will be banned!
Jays first question was anything but intelligent. It indicated profound lack of understand of how the world works. "Should Taiwan arm itself so the US doesn't have to "help" them so much." What are you smoking buddy? Without the US involved there is no conflict in the first place. How do you think a bunch of Christian fascists fled the mainland and ended up on that Island in the first place? How many Americans know what it means when US leaders say "we lost China" or know that the US has already invaded and occupied China previously?
@@Goye41 If seen, completely turned upside-down & spit out opposite.
Great guest Jay. Thanks for being open minded to invite guests like Warwick Powell on.
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PHCKNG BS, this is a proxy war the Western Cult which holds the WEST hostage has started long ago... made to appear as a civil war... another guest who turns into the same type blind pundits we keep suffering.
Warwick Powell is well educated in Historical context. Jay is typical westerner but at least he invited him. I'm from Hong Kong
lol I’ll take it
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what does race have to do with it?? I'm American but have lived almost 50 years in Taiwan...I've traveled heavily throughout Asia and lived in hk and China. Am I a typical Westerner? You sure sound like a typical Hong Konger!
@@香料國境 I'm a typical SoCal-born surfer resident of Donghe Township listening to this as I eat muh brunch.
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"You can't always vet what you want, butif you try, sometimes, you get what you need"
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Prof. Powell is a very wise man, that has mastered both cultures Western and Chinese.
I wish many many more people can take this free lesson, so well done.😮
I am from Taiwan and I wish to see unification in my life time.
👍👍
“I am from Taiwan and I wish to see unification in my lifetime.” The vast majority of your countrymen disagree. Taiwan has never been part of China, so you can’t ‘re'unify. There was a 19-year period in the 19th century when the Qing claimed Taiwan as a prefecture, but that claim was not taken seriously by analysts of the time because China did not control the main island. At one point, they said they would make a coast guard but did not. They did manage to erect a lighthouse. This was in the backdrop of negotiations over the Treaty of Shimonoseki and was believed by some to have been a bargaining chip. The fact is, Taiwan was undesirable due to the prevalence of malaria and the presence of the Austronesian Taiwanese. It was a rough place and few Chinese ventured there.
Perhaps you have other reasons that are not historical. I might imagine a few. What are yours?
@@hhf39p WTF you smoking? Never been part of Taiwan? Really? Which side of the universe you living?
@@gamingtideX “Never been part of Taiwan?” I think you meant to say “Never been part of China.” Are you really Taiwanese? You might want to cut back on whatever you’re smoking.
Let’s narrow this down. Since it’s impossible to prove a negative, why don’t you tell us when you believe the main island of Taiwan was controlled by China, what form that control took, and provide any evidence or citations you have for that.
@@hhf39pAnd Texas, New Mexico, Nevada and California should revert back to Mexico. And if there's WW3, Alaska back to Russia.
Great discussion!! Let’s invite Kishore Mahbubani, and Einer Tangen to discuss these issues and deepen our understanding of China and the beginnings of our multi nodal future!! Professor Powell was excellent in teaching us how the U.S. and the West is going through a process of grief as primacy is no longer in its grasp!!
I second this! Fantastic guests to have on
Awesome interview!!! Pro. Warwick Powell is spot on.
Glad you enjoyed it
Yes Professor Powell enmity between Taiwan and China in the 21st century is American CIA manufactured.
@@TheJayMartinShowi do
Prof. Warwick Powell demonstrably showed how deeply and minutely understand and appreciate the subtlety and nuances of Chinese culture and civilisation. Bravo Prof. Powell!!!👏
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kudos to him.
Agree.
Buyer beware. There were a number of misleading statements from Prof. Powell.
Many will think the US will defend Taiwan but I think the US won't risk total nuclear war with China. To China, Taiwan is a legitimacy issue (an existential issue) while to America, Taiwan is just a game, like Ukraine. At best, the US would provide weapons so that Taiwanese could fight China to the last Taiwanese man. And sanctions by the whole western world to break both China-occupied Taiwan and China Mainland, making the East Asia/ASEAN a mess, which is a valuable chance to bring back manufacturing to Europe/America. That's the strategy of western elite.
should china arm hawaii in their fight for their independence from us?
People from the republic of Texas will say of course to that. Don't forget about the many people in Texas who want to be separate from America.
We should trade Hawaii for Taiwan.
Yes
Don't look now, but they are already armed. Americans have the right to bare arms. I wonder if China would be as tranquil as Hawaii if the Chinese had that right also. Hmm.
@@cutbaitgofishing It would be a very different proposition if China were to arm the residents of Texas, wouldn't it? That is the rough equivalent of the US arming Taiwan.
Lots of people in Taiwan want to unite with China
🤪😂
😆More people don't
@shanewilson2484 That is because of the brainwashing ..of the Dpp government affecting the young...3 million Taiwanese use to live and work in the mainland..in the 90s onward...
Blood is thicker than water 👍
I listened to 46m and was compelled to write my two cents. Had listened to Prof Powell interviews by other UA-camr but this is by far a most excellent lecture from him. I suspect Jay was also thoroughly educated by him.
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I learned so much from Jay Martin's podcast. This one especially so as Warwick speaks clearly and slowly. Love it!!! ❤
Prof Powell is totally the best guest ever
Prof Powell is fair and right.
Great piece of work, very educational. I am surprised he thinks like a typical Chinese . Also very honest . Americans should study this text. .A big thank you to both of you !
ROC for all intents and purposes, have ceased to exist since the formation of PRC in 1949. It’s therefore wrong to call the island of Taiwan as ROC, it’s parts of the PRC and the ROC preceding to the later. The recognition of PRC by the US under its One China policy lends credence to the sovereignty of PRC.
To use the Taiwan issue to contain China is uncalled for, devout of legitimacy.
Jay, thank you for conducting such an informative interview with Professor Warwick Powell. It not only provided some valuable historical background on Western and Eastern policies but also provided better macro perspectives on the current and future hegemonic cultural changes that are in transitioning toward the multipolar world that is happening before our eyes. Truly thought provoking!
US and its allies had better NOT to get involved in resolving Taiwan issue simply due its unfinished civil war nature and where secessionism involved; The same is true for China not to get involved with any separatist issue within Europe like Northern Ireland agt UK, and Catalunya agt Spain. Non-interference over the other country internal politics is a golden rule of thumb comprising mutual respect and peaceful co-existence. This rule must not be empowered only by saying, rather preferentially by honestly unbiased acting upon it.
This rule do not apply to USA..the American are the International thugs and bully bot subjected to ant rules..
Jay, your content is always quite good - in that context I think this has been your best release to date. Yes, please make a second. Regarding length, yes long, in this case that is not a negative. Very well done. Thank you for your hard work.
One of the most interesting and informative podcasts l have had the pleasure of listening too in ages.... excellent well done
Why does the title image say China's Final Stand? Isn't it more like America's Final Stand...
Yip
It's a good clickbait
America has no right to any stand.
Absolutely 💯!
Good observation.
Key take away-- the Taiwan island issue should be viewed in the context of a civil war.
Up until 1990, the island administration itself had retaking the mainland and to rule over the ENTIRE Chinese territory itself as its main goal.
BUT. America saw the strategic USE of the island for its own geopolitical purpose...
I bet Jay is never going to give your comment a 'like", even though your really summarized Professor Warwick's analysis about the Taiwan issue in a brief and accurate way
Americas official policy is “ one China policy “ meaning Taiwan IS Chinese .
Oh, and Taiwan is not Taiwans actual name , look it up …
Thank you Jay for inviting Warwick, he's brilliant and wise. Need more Western scholars like him. Looking forward to the second part!
Superb explanations and framework as described by Professor Warwick Powell. Looking forward to Part !!.
Me too!
Overall speaking, really love the sharing from professor warwick.
This is what an economist should be doing, no west biased, no China biased, just doing the history and current status clarification and analysis, and sharing the people who people should be approaching further economic development based on the real mechanism of the economy.
Really appreciate professor Warwick's job.
The funny part of this interview was, the anchor Jay was trying to bring a narrative of "China is being aggressive and wrongly doing towards this world" into this interview, but after professor warwick shared his views about those topics, i can tell that Jay found himself do know how to continue calculating his original narrative further more, hahaha… funny…
But thank you Jay anyway for bring professor warwick here.
it was already clear what he was going to say. The man has to go home to Beijing. Unbiased? I don't think so.
@@hhf39p FYI, he is just stating the true reality. And I'm from fucking Taiwan. ㄅㄞˊㄇㄨˋ
@@Stefan-oi9nk "from"? Posting at 2:20am? Troll is what you are.
What a great discussion, that is so much more than 'China's Secret Strategy title'! I wanted to stop listening during this 2hr session but couldn't. Great interview Jay.
Appreciate that 🙌🏼
I was the same. I kept coming back to this interview.
Finally, great explanation, clear and concise with accurate historic context. US politicians should spend time watching your show and to get some basic education, rather than sending young men and women out to fight wars that does not need to be.
The US couldn't care less, many of these politicians have large amounts of shares in military industrial complex companies listed publicly on the NYSE. It's war for profits scenario, & that's the goal is to keep the fighting going around the globe..
American politicans might understand the issue as well. They cannot stop containing China, stopping China from sharing "leadership".
You've invited Warwick Powell, and so I subscribed to your channel. It's cause and effect, plain and simple : )
Haha I love that, welcome!
Same here!
Very convincing articulation by prof. Powell, thanks Jay for hosting professor.
Curious, which part did you find 'convincing' and what were you 'convinced' of?
The history and complexity behind the conflict.
This was a grandslam of an interview. Thx Jay, Professor 🍺
First time to come across yr channel. Purely hit it because of prof Powell. Subscribed. Thanks for best and such an incredible guest who absolutely explains everything simple and so clear!! Impressed to the tee
If only our politicians in the west were are smart as this guy .
That would be great, but most voters are only able to grasp bumper sticker philosophy.
@@clintonlunn4357 yes it's all about education
Politics is not about being smart,
Politics is about deception and might. Who can deceive more, who is more powerful, wins. Politics is the dirtiest and cruellest thing in the world.
lol as a US Citzen, they are not smart, but evil greedy
Thank you, Prof Powell. Your wide swathe of knowledge and brilliant articulation made this one of the best dispositions I have ever heard. ❤ Great choice, Jay.
Appreciate that thank you
I absolutely loved this presentation, and I was very impressed with Warwick Powell. He was very articulate and detailed in the matter that was addressed which was very impressive. He certainly took the time to prepare this podcast. or he really know his material. which the latter is more appropriate. Thank you again.
Glad you enjoyed it, as did I
the prof is indeed a very learned person. Indeed his knowledge of China's political history is commendable..
Prof. Warwick is a great guest. Thanks for having him on
THE DAYS OF AMERICA LOOTING THE WORLD ARE OVER EITHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT !!!!!!!!!
Absolutely incredible information put in a calm, educated and concise manner. An absolute pleasure to listen to and absorb. Thank you very much.
I am utterly perplexed how these discussions about the Republic of China (aka ROC Taiwan) and the People's Republic of China (aka PRC Mainland China) are still up for debate in Western Driven media? How about we all listen to the citizens of the ROC Taiwan.
The citizens of ROC Taiwan had voted in January 2024, 60% AGAINST the proUSA party (who now run a minority government due to ROC Taiwan's 3 party system).
That is, 60% of the citizens of ROC Taiwan want USA and the Western World to LEAVE THEM ALONE. ROC Taiwan and PRC China have a healthy trading relationship. Tens of thousands of ROC Taiwanese cross over to China to run their businesses there on a daily basis. The ROC Taiwanese are happy with the Status Quo. The only major contenders are USA (who order their allies to comply) who travel over 10,000km away from their country to run weekly Military cruise ships and Military Planes, up and down China's maritime borders. Why? They need to go back and fix up their own problems, like FREEING HAWAII which they illegally occupied.
The relationship between PRC China and ROC Taiwan are similar to the relationship with the Commonwealth of Australia and the UK.
Even though Australia is a Commonwealth of England, we run as a Republic, with our own Prime Minister and our own Currency. We are OK with the Status Quo and we just live our lives the way we choose.
ROC Taiwan is a province of PRC China (as officially recognised by the UN, and counter signed by USA). ROC Taiwan run like a Republic with their own President and their own Currency. As with Australia, they overwhelming majority of citizens are OK with the status quo (where in Australia, we also have a minority group called ARM, the Australian Republican Movement, who create some noise, but we ignore them because we don't care, as long as England does not bother us). China is NOT going to invade ROC Taiwan, because ROC Taiwan is already a province of China. England is NOT going to invade Australia because Australia is already a Commonwealth of England. These discussion of ROC Taiwan and PRC China are extremely disrespectful ... all because USA wants to create another Proxy War, this time in South East Asia.
Not up for debate, just trying to understand better myself
It's actually a great debate the fact that that Jay took the time to share this information to the world is very appreciative. Don't take it for granted these type of videos. But yea I agree what you said. Taiwan should be united back to China
As a fellow Australian you have to realise by now that this country is also run by zio nazis and they will back US every way. Look at the money all of a sudden to weapons $368billion in 4yrs for nuclear submarines, japan-au (US silent partner) underwater warfare project, those are clear sign that US is making military bases (in AU, Japan, Philippines) with the purpose of using our countries for a proxy war with China (same as Ukraine and look at the devastation there).
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England will not invade Australia, I agree. But, US is well advanced
This professor is under rated. He's so knowledgeable.
Amazing job you two. Seriously, so enlightening. Great job facilitating this interview !!
Kudos to prof. Warwick Powell with accurate and insightful explanation of China - the island Taiwan issues and US hegemony downhill
What a wonderful guest with innovation ideas and full knowledge of academic research!
Bring Professor Warwick back again please. I wish he was my lecturer back in my time. He's the best.
China currently produces more STEM graduates annually than the rest of the world, the US included. Think of the implications that has in a world in which AI will drive change.
Pro Warwick Powell explanation of China-Taiwan issue is both precise and concise. Explicitly explained the complexities of the issue,well done Professor!
Prof. Powell is a treasure! Please bring him back!
Great conversation. Cut through the fog of confusion like soft butter.
Yeeeessss! I want a second part - and I want it now! Thank you both for this admirable gift!
The second part ought to include Kishore Mahunbani, and Victor Gao....
Pro Prowell view is very similar to how a Chinese sees it, but rarely can hear in English. Thanks. subcribed.
I listen to quite a lot of geo politics interviews, and this is definitely one of the best. Prof Powell’s historical knowledge on China and Taiwan is impressive, and his take on the global situation is very insightful. Great food for thought. Look forward to part two!
Prof Powell the most deeply knowledgable person I have listened to in decades. Well worth the extended time of the interview. Apart from giving us a much-needed education on the history of Taiwan and US intervention there, he dives much more deeply into how wealth is generated, and why the leading economy CANNOT be the leading economy forever: like everything else human (universe??), dynamic, i.e., innovative, economies progress through juvenile, maturity, and old age/decline.
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Thank you so very much for this interview. Warwick Powell is both knowledgeable and wise, and has helped me to understand the current situation in the world better. And it is very good to see an interviewer making notes, reflecting, recaping and really taking in new ideas. I am a teacher and this is what I like to see--genuine curiosity. Thanks again.
China's Belt and Road Initiative is not only growing China's trade with the Global South. It's also enabling Chinese industries to access raw materials more efficiently. In many cases, it has enabled those industries to lock in crucial components of their supply chains, which is an obvious threat to Western competitors.
I sit as a peon, making idle observations. It is a nice question you raise. I have heard some in Southeast Asia saying they prefer to deal with the Chinese than with more conventional capital sources. However, China has now made two laws they say apply to everyone in the world. One was no complaining about China taking over in Hong Kong. And the other is no saying that Taiwan should be independent. They have also gone around the world having countries sign a document agreeing that Taiwan should not be independent. In other words, they are leveraging their belt and road loans, which many governments are behind on, to have government agree to Chinese policy and laws. This has also given them extra leverage at the UN. Consequently there are people calling Belt and Road a policy of debt enslavement. I found it very interesting that one of the justifications the Chinese gave for the Hong Kong Security Law being international is that 'The Americans did the same thing before" and they cited some of the worst of American policies. I.e. two wrongs make a right, or the first one creates the precedent for the Chinese to do it too. It would be so much better if they aspired to making a better world rather than demanding their seat at the table for carving up the world.
@@hhf39p You are welcome to your interpretation. I suggest you actually listen to this interview with an open mind.
@@hhf39p I don't see any problem for this. Only very few tiny countries admit Taiwan as a country, and the country which deals with China needs to admit one China policy already. No special for BRI.
@@hhf39p Hong Kong is originally China's territory. If Hong Kong returns to China, it is part of China. Shouldn't Hong Kong follow China's national security law? The exchanges between countries must have some of the most basic points of agreement, such as United Nations Resolution 2758. Only if you acknowledge it will I be willing to associate with you. If a country is unwilling to recognize it, then there will be no exchanges. Isn't this normal?
@@hhf39p Places such as Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Xinjiang are China’s inherent territories. Will China carve up the world if it takes back its own territory? How funny. If you don't know these things, you can read more history books.
The only thing new about the Taiwan situation is a more militant US position. China has not changed their policy since Nixon went to China.
Part II for sure. Part III also welcome on any subject challenging our lives in the upcoming years ahead. My hat off to Dr. Powell, an erudite highbrow.
Protest in Hong Kong is made in Britain the sinking empire 😂
True 100%. That's what my friends that were in H0ng Kong said. They saw "pale faced f0reign agents" pr0v0k!!ng the young k!!ds to pr0test.
The "status quo" was never intense nor uneasy, at least to the people living in Taiwan island and Mainland China. Everybody was just going about their own business, and prospering. It was only made to seem so by American corporate media, who are beholden to the billionaire's club of the US military-industrial complex.
The definition of civil war, overall the one China is mainland & Taiwan as recognised by the UN. As the mainland, CPC stresses that they want a peaceful reunification but the USA would like to make Taiwan an USA proxi to counter or weaken CPC.
That was Yesterday mate. The US is no longer a Global Hegemone. Putin has destroyed that Image of US being a Global Hegemone. The US is Naked. Thank you Putin🇷🇺🇨🇳 vs 🇺🇲🏳️🌈
Only Ch!y!na is recognized by UN.
Prof Jeffrey Sachs also had an interview lately with Tucker Carlson, he explained the issue of Taiwan pretty succinctly and easy to understand.
Don’t miss that interview, I encourage everyone to check it out.
Wow, a complex historical matter explained in such a simple n easy to understand way. Thank you gentlemen❤
For decades, China has been purchasing Western-made chips at high prices and considered imposing high tariffs on them but was restricted by WTO rules. China has long sought to develop a domestic chip supply chain. Thanks to U.S. policies under the Trump administration, China has accelerated the development of a complete chip ecosystem, covering both upstream and downstream industries. China has several major chip hub cities, which are home to many semiconductor companies, research institutions, and startups involved in chip design, manufacturing, and testing, while also integrating talent, research, and a robust supply chain network.
Jay, its amazing that you can summarize such a complex discussion so succinctly while I am still trying to digest the complexity. great job... keep up the good work.. bring on more great guests
Professor Powell is amazing! Of all the informed and intelligent speakers on both sides of the Taiwan dispute, he is undoubtedly in my mind the most knowledgeable and most able to comprehensively and accurately contextualize the state of affairs of this dispute.
Thanks for explaining so many of our future dealings worldwide great interview
Awesome Warwick Powell a genius with comprehensive knowledge & certainly most educational👌👍
Get Warwick back soon. All government employs should watch your videos, Thanks Jay. Be good.
Thanks for mentioning and asking about how to look out for your kids! We need to think of their future!
Hey Jay, should China chime in is Quebec part of Canada?
Canada needs to be split up. It starts with wexit..
What Canada, the lapbitch of the US?LMFAO!!
The Chinese say "it is not my business". Will Canada return such courtesy and wisdom?
Warrick is a fantastic and knowledgeable guest
This was a great guest. Warwick Powell is a very knowledgeable expert on many of the issues we should be discussing in the West. Jay looks like your bread-and-butter Westerner-cool, relaxed, kind of a matter-of-factly guy-but he's trying really hard (all my respect to him for that) not to look sarcastic or entitled. That's why I respect him even more. People like him in the West are so uninterested in listening to what Powell has to say that they wouldn't even start a conversation on the subject, let alone be willing to not constantly and derailingly interrupt someone with this perspective. Jay, however, really walks the walk of asking things everybody knows they should ask but are afraid to. And he listens, with respect and real appreciation. Kudos for that my man.
With respect to Taiwan issue. We have to pay attention to the why and how neocons in Washington can do and want to do to provoke and inflict a military confrontation over Taiwan. I think Chinese is fully aware of the tricky part of neocons thinking which is to use Taiwan as a proxy to fight against China and at the same time to raise economic sanction (including seize of China foreign reserve and assets), yet China is only aimed to take on US when Taiwan issue comes to realization. This suggests Pentagon must do its calculation before march on its fleet, which is why PLA is purposefully and overtly flexing its muscle observable by the Pentagon. With the overwhelming firepower near the coast of China, the Pentagon had done numerous war game without any one predicted US on the winning side, and the US political elite know they will NO longer be a global hegemon, but a regional power to north American with collapsed dollar bankruptcy when the conflict with PLA is ended.
What a wonderful interview. Thank you!
Re-subbed for Professor Powell. Great talk. It would be amazing for humanity if the US and the West stayed out of everyone's business and minded their own.
Appreciate you
they dont care about their own pple but care about other pple. Funny
Excellent discussion! Thank you for having Warwick Powell! ❤❤❤
This was a tutorial on clear and sound thinking. Really enjoyed it.
Excellent interview
Great great great guest!!! Thank you for bringing him to your channel!!
Great interview. Thank you!
🇫🇮❤the knowledge & wisdom of W.P..
A masterclass from Professor Powell.
Should China help Hawaii or Texas gain Independence?
Jay is quick witted and can immediately summarise on the spot, almost flawkesdly and even provide more clarity. Much thanks!
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Such an informative and thoughtful show. Excellent!!!! 👏🏿👏🏿
Need to arm themselves? Where have you been? They have been arming themselves for quite a long time.
Taiwan is not the legal name … you cannot enter the UN building in NYC with Taiwanese passport
Don't forget RoC also claim sovereignty over the South Sea islands, Outer Manchuria besides those areas mentioned in this video.
1949 Xinjiang
1950 Hainan and Zhoushan Archipelago
1951 Tibet
1954 Yijiangshan and Dachen Islands
Various skirmishes in Indian border lands
1974 Paracel Islands
1988 Islands in the South China Sea, among them Fiery Cross Reef, Hughes Reef, Nanxun Reef, Subi Reef, Mischief Reef
2005 some border territories with Russia
2008 1,000 km² of Tajikistan
2009 made artificial land in the South China Sea, then claimed new borders
Current territorial disputes with Japan, Vietnam, and the Philippines
Rumor that Putin is trading more Russian land for Chinese support
China claims all of the “9-dashed line” naval area
What I wonder. Given that China is such a great believer in historical lands, are they planning to give back to Mongolia their historical lands?
@@hhf39p ... Sit d0wn, boi. First, US and Eur0pe should give back all their lands back to hundreds of Native tribes.
Historically, what taiwan really wants is to become the capital of china, not a new country.
They were the head government of china 75 years ago, and always dream to come back and rule china again.
Also, Taiwan also argued that Taiwan should take place of china as the “permanent five” in 1971 but failed.
It is unfinished civil war and the main issue is who is the real owner of china. 🎉
China and Taiwan should reunified and become stronger than before. 👊
great guest
If any of you don’t believe Taiwan is part of China, let me tell you this: the government of Taiwan is called Republic of China; in its constitution, Taiwan and mainland China are both its territory.
Well done for having this interview, Jay. Much appreciated!
Master class!!!!
Excellent information here. Thank you.
Wow thank you for the abundant of historical knowledge, as always good program !!! ❤