Man. I love this set. Generally, you never see such drastic turning points in games or sports, but this set changed the dynamic between these two players so much. Prior to this, it was certainly clear that Armada had a mental edge coupled with better gameplans and understanding of the matchups they would play. And during and after, you see that m2k has a strong and (more importantly) repeatable gamplan that he brought to the table. The win also certainly gave him the confidence going foward. I certainly think this set kicked off the best rivalry in melee for the next two years. Pick any set between these two during that time period, and you are likely to get an immensly tense game 5 classic that goes down to the wire. And we have this set to thank for it.
M2K has been doing fairly well. Just not as good as the other top 6. For the longest time he's had a problem against Puff with only one win last year and one win this year. I think it's time to retire Fox and either grind out Marth/Sheik vs Puff.
his fox does fine honestly. he has 2 wins this year, and two additional sets that were really close. It's better for him to improve his Fox gameplan in neutral imho
This set makes every M2K fan happy! A shame he couldn't repeat in Losers. I think M2K should seriously focus on Marth and Sheik 100%. Drop Fox, and stop using Peach vs. ICs. Stop doubting himself and play the game instead of the MU imo
noah Twigg Good point but he should reserve Fox specifically for Hbox and use his mains 99% of the other times. I also think his Marth can beat Hbox, he just doesn't believe he can because he doesn't like the MU.
Jason is and always will be my favorite player. So much heart and such incredible skill. Great match for both and looking forward to watching both Armada and Mew2King in the future.
I think he was crushed after losing to Hbox and really wanted to take the tourney (even though he still could have). Though I think beating him with Marth this time was good because it removed a mind-block from Armada for the next time he uses Marth
i love how m2k hasn't been performing the greatest in most tournaments he enters lately yet in the last two months he 3-0'd the best melee player and 3-0'd the best smash wii u player
noah Twigg I disagree, go watch his set against Hbox, M2K got absolutely destroyed using Fox, Hbox has a *lot* of experience in the Puff/Fox matchup, I honestly think M2K has more of a chance with Sheik/Marth than Fox. Recently, I see M2K failing with Fox way more than actually succeeding.
+pikachu896 that first stock in the match showed he has a lot of hope, imo hbox is too good vs shiek and marth, maybe if he practices nonstop against pufd
I remember the day before this set I said in Bizzarro Flame's Twitch chat that I though M2K would win Summit. Someone asked me if I was serious, and I said that M2K was playing amazingly the day before, so yeah. He didn't win the tournament, but this was pretty dang good.
+Max Drury M2k has said that he doesn't like the puff vs Marth match-up. It's unfortunate too because I think most people think he had a better shot going Marth.
Oh, I agree, but I think a M2k Marth on point would have given him a better shot than a laser spamming, not practiced Fox. Especially with how much Fox experience Hbox has.
Commentary suggestion: During game 1 there was way too much talk about the character matchup, I think that kind of analysis needs to happen before the match. Once the match starts, just talk about the game thats happening.
I really feel bad that m2k didn't go marth in the losers bracket match, I guess he wasn't feeling it but I really want him to do well cause if he can play like this then he can beat anyone
Armada was really way too patient with his turnip pulls this set. It's usually no issue that he will only pull turnips when his opponents are offstage in certain matchups but I feel like with the way m2k was spacing, Armada was failing to pressure Marth on stage, or even offstage. There are many circumstances where m2k is offstage recovering and he very easily side b-s in an intelligent way to avoid the typical two turnip toss armada throws out. Maybe he was scared of side b but, I feel like there were points he could have drop down nair'd and been okay. Definitely an amazing set, though I wish people would stop freaking out when m2k wins things like he isn't good anymore or something. Nobody acts this surprised when PP gets good wins in his current state which is arguably worse than Jason's.
Wow I remember when m2k first beat armada in 2013 the commentators were like "three long years of trying to beat armada" until now m2k was never able to beat armada since then.
6:49 Ugh I hate when commentators try to take credit for the top level players playing amazing. None of you have taught m2k anything that he didn't already know...
Chill, obviously a joke. Blur clearly doesn't honestly think he's responsible for m2k's win. As for your second statement though, it is likely there are things that Blur knows that M2K doesn't. M2K doesn't know everything about the game
slapusillydawg Don't tell me what to do man. It isn't a joke. Blur thinks he actually changed the metagame somehow and the rest of the commentators proceed to taunt him mercilessly for it for the rest of the set. Also, I'm sure M2K doesn't know "everything" about the game, but he most certainly knows more and has more experience than blur. Which is why the other commentators were taunting blur for making such an arrogant statement.
Honey Badger Which is why every time the other commentators start mocking him, Blur always tries to get them to stop? If it was so "obvious" that this was a joke, why would he react so defensively? I'm just saying. I put my opinion forward. I can pretty confidently say that you know as much about this situation as I do. Which is basically nothing. We're all just making assumptions.
***** Have you ever realized that telling someone to relax is the exact opposite way of getting them to relax? It's basically the same as telling someone to chill. If you tell them that, they probably won't chill. People don't like being told what to do. I'm just saying that M2K had it in him, even if Blur gave him some hints. Blur probably didn't tell M2K anything that he didn't already know. Sure maybe it was helpful for M2K to be reminded of these things. I'll acknowledge that.
Do you guys ever think these special moments are ever faked just to keep the meta game relevant? I'm kinda skeptical if this was staged or not. Not hating tho just a thought
Judging from M2K's popoff, it'd seem extremely challenging to fake this. This was an event where he could focus solely on Melee and attack the "inner demons" he had with more skilled friendly partners and focused matchups.
+Jose Lopez I did like it when they talked about the character match up, the player styles, and the changes to both the character match up and the player styles.
+Steven Chartis I also liked that. There's definitely many good things that they talk about. I just don't like what it can become when they're talking about very personal stuff or trying to one up each other. It's distracting
If you haven't seen this set yet then please don't read the comments. Wait till it's over then come back to the comments
by the time they read this comment they would have already seen other comments in between
Wow Blur played really well in this set.
Man. I love this set. Generally, you never see such drastic turning points in games or sports, but this set changed the dynamic between these two players so much. Prior to this, it was certainly clear that Armada had a mental edge coupled with better gameplans and understanding of the matchups they would play. And during and after, you see that m2k has a strong and (more importantly) repeatable gamplan that he brought to the table. The win also certainly gave him the confidence going foward. I certainly think this set kicked off the best rivalry in melee for the next two years. Pick any set between these two during that time period, and you are likely to get an immensly tense game 5 classic that goes down to the wire. And we have this set to thank for it.
I hope this success gives M2k a ton more confidence going toward the summer, it would be great to see him perform like this again
He hasn't been doing bad to be exact
M2k needs a coach. I know the moon was willing to coach him.
M2K has been doing fairly well. Just not as good as the other top 6. For the longest time he's had a problem against Puff with only one win last year and one win this year. I think it's time to retire Fox and either grind out Marth/Sheik vs Puff.
his fox does fine honestly. he has 2 wins this year, and two additional sets that were really close.
It's better for him to improve his Fox gameplan in neutral imho
This is a such a legendary set. One for the books for sure.
This Marth play rivals Colbol vs Ice at Genesis 3
+Clem Lane just went back and watched that... Oh dear
SPOILERS
Set starts at 3:50
Well thank you!
3:45 start
Axe's face at the end is priceless.
+rage Esam's face too is like "What in the-"
22:36 my man jumped in slow motion.
Sickest fucking series, the king is back boys...
+z zz Really, Ken is back?!?
a healthy m2k is scary
+Mason Dufault He's been eating those apples every morning.
And then Armada STILL won it all. This guy is just too good.
I love macd in the background, he smiled all proud of M2K.
This set makes every M2K fan happy! A shame he couldn't repeat in Losers. I think M2K should seriously focus on Marth and Sheik 100%. Drop Fox, and stop using Peach vs. ICs. Stop doubting himself and play the game instead of the MU imo
the thing is hbox bodies his marth and shiek, so he needs fox to stand a chance. sucks he needs fox for just one player
noah Twigg Good point but he should reserve Fox specifically for Hbox and use his mains 99% of the other times. I also think his Marth can beat Hbox, he just doesn't believe he can because he doesn't like the MU.
lol m2k no he should go full marth
armada peach moonwalk at 5:29 lol
set stars a 03:50
The best Melee set I've seen in months. When he's feeling alright and his mind is on the ball, there's nothing quite like M2K's Marth.
Jason is and always will be my favorite player. So much heart and such incredible skill. Great match for both and looking forward to watching both Armada and Mew2King in the future.
Spoiler alert!
GREAT JOB MEW2KING ON THAT LEGENDARY UPSET VS ARMADA AND IT WAS A 3-0 TOO AHHHHH
M2k just has to stick with Marth against Peach and keep trying. That's why he won. He didn't just give up and go Sheik or Fox like before.
I think he was crushed after losing to Hbox and really wanted to take the tourney (even though he still could have). Though I think beating him with Marth this time was good because it removed a mind-block from Armada for the next time he uses Marth
m2k should go marth vs Puff
+Chase Yea tafo said that m2k might give marth a try. After summit blur played m2ks puff as marth and m2k said this MU is stupid lol
I will never not pop off after watching this set
Shades of The Big House 3. Mew2King made everyone a believer again.
shout outs to the original I HAD AN APPLE THIS MORNING from M2K
i love how m2k hasn't been performing the greatest in most tournaments he enters lately yet in the last two months he 3-0'd the best melee player and 3-0'd the best smash wii u player
and by best i mean #1 ranked at the moment
22:07 Hahahah look at Esam at the back
Looks like Jason went to the doctor.
+Tom Emery No, he ate an apple a day ~.^
He ate Adam's Apple.
+Tom Emery holy shit that was a good one ahaha
+sigurdtheblue Good thing m2k plays video games for a living.
SURREAL !!!!!!!! iNCREDIBLE ! the return of the king? jeje. Impresive. !!!
TheCrimsonSpur
Papa Bless.
genius
He was reading Armada like a book the whole time
AW YEAH KICK SOME ASS!
I'm gonna make a best of M2K from Summit video.
Set of the tournament for me by far. Why is everyone thanking Blur though? Did he give some advice to Mew2king or something?
Blur helped m2k analyze armadas
matches so he was able to pick up new stuff
+Jake Smith captain crunch ain't shit. blur
+Hectorlo blur went into the hyperbolic time chamber with m2k to prepare him for armada until literally the last minute
Best popoff of 2016
This is why I think M2K should seriously drop Fox and just go Marth and Sheik
he would get his ass kicked by hbox though, it sucks he needs fox Judy for him
noah Twigg I disagree, go watch his set against Hbox, M2K got absolutely destroyed using Fox, Hbox has a *lot* of experience in the Puff/Fox matchup, I honestly think M2K has more of a chance with Sheik/Marth than Fox. Recently, I see M2K failing with Fox way more than actually succeeding.
+pikachu896 that first stock in the match showed he has a lot of hope, imo hbox is too good vs shiek and marth, maybe if he practices nonstop against pufd
+noah Twigg *puff
Drop sheik and fox and go full marth.
I remember the day before this set I said in Bizzarro Flame's Twitch chat that I though M2K would win Summit. Someone asked me if I was serious, and I said that M2K was playing amazingly the day before, so yeah. He didn't win the tournament, but this was pretty dang good.
How does this only have 64,000 views?
With how well his Marth played I think he could've taken the whole tournament if he just stayed Marth.
@@RohanKishibe23 summit 8 baby, marth god
#ThankYouBlur
Well damn. That was cool.
22:26 just goes in..
But where is kirby?
how much better would this set have been if Scar actually did get on commentary
I love M2K because of sets like this
Why didn't M2K use Marth vs H-Box?
+Max Drury M2k has said that he doesn't like the puff vs Marth match-up. It's unfortunate too because I think most people think he had a better shot going Marth.
Marth vs Jiggs is deff not in Marth's favor a up b to a platform is a easy rest
Oh, I agree, but I think a M2k Marth on point would have given him a better shot than a laser spamming, not practiced Fox. Especially with how much Fox experience Hbox has.
damn i need to start eating apples and waking up early lol
Lets go.
Commentary suggestion: During game 1 there was way too much talk about the character matchup, I think that kind of analysis needs to happen before the match. Once the match starts, just talk about the game thats happening.
I really feel bad that m2k didn't go marth in the losers bracket match, I guess he wasn't feeling it but I really want him to do well cause if he can play like this then he can beat anyone
the year is 2007
IIRC, m2k won game 1 when they first met @ Genesis 1
why did they just mess around in first game?
it was not the first game, it was hand warmers. warm ups.
+Zen Lavin ah thanks. do they do that every game?
+troy romillo when players want to warm up, they can agree to play a warm up game, then the set. But it's up to the players
DAS MA BOI M2K!
Why didn't Armada go fox?
+LoupiTheMightyCucco M2K is the best in the world at the marth-fox matchup. Also Armada has historically always went peach and beat m2k.
M2K is a god against fox
thanks for all the info guys
This makes me want to see Zain play Armada
tfw when ur realize mew2king will never sit on u naked wearing only knee socks... ;-;
What the actual fuck
Dafuq
just thinking about that gets me all moist
feelsbadman
yknow i used to think you were just a normal youtuber
Armada was really way too patient with his turnip pulls this set. It's usually no issue that he will only pull turnips when his opponents are offstage in certain matchups but I feel like with the way m2k was spacing, Armada was failing to pressure Marth on stage, or even offstage. There are many circumstances where m2k is offstage recovering and he very easily side b-s in an intelligent way to avoid the typical two turnip toss armada throws out. Maybe he was scared of side b but, I feel like there were points he could have drop down nair'd and been okay. Definitely an amazing set, though I wish people would stop freaking out when m2k wins things like he isn't good anymore or something. Nobody acts this surprised when PP gets good wins in his current state which is arguably worse than Jason's.
armada looked pretty bad this set tbh. good for m2k since he definitely outplayed him hard but yikes, armada did not play well. good set to watch tho
Somebody went to the doctor ;)
Wow I remember when m2k first beat armada in 2013 the commentators were like "three long years of trying to beat armada" until now m2k was never able to beat armada since then.
2014* not 2013
APPLES
6:49 Ugh I hate when commentators try to take credit for the top level players playing amazing. None of you have taught m2k anything that he didn't already know...
Chill, obviously a joke. Blur clearly doesn't honestly think he's responsible for m2k's win. As for your second statement though, it is likely there are things that Blur knows that M2K doesn't. M2K doesn't know everything about the game
slapusillydawg Don't tell me what to do man. It isn't a joke. Blur thinks he actually changed the metagame somehow and the rest of the commentators proceed to taunt him mercilessly for it for the rest of the set. Also, I'm sure M2K doesn't know "everything" about the game, but he most certainly knows more and has more experience than blur. Which is why the other commentators were taunting blur for making such an arrogant statement.
Honey Badger Which is why every time the other commentators start mocking him, Blur always tries to get them to stop? If it was so "obvious" that this was a joke, why would he react so defensively? I'm just saying. I put my opinion forward. I can pretty confidently say that you know as much about this situation as I do. Which is basically nothing. We're all just making assumptions.
***** Have you ever realized that telling someone to relax is the exact opposite way of getting them to relax? It's basically the same as telling someone to chill. If you tell them that, they probably won't chill. People don't like being told what to do. I'm just saying that M2K had it in him, even if Blur gave him some hints. Blur probably didn't tell M2K anything that he didn't already know. Sure maybe it was helpful for M2K to be reminded of these things. I'll acknowledge that.
***** Alright see you later. No asked you to stop by anyways, so have a good life. Buh bye.
Commentators are so dumb he didn't like the pace of the match he picked Marth on dreamland in case armada picked fd and if he went sheik he'd lose
Argument against M2k being best marth... no, ok
PPMD is better, but until he returns I agree that M2K is the best.
Armada thinks he's the shit
Well he is.
Do you guys ever think these special moments are ever faked just to keep the meta game relevant? I'm kinda skeptical if this was staged or not. Not hating tho just a thought
Judging from M2K's popoff, it'd seem extremely challenging to fake this. This was an event where he could focus solely on Melee and attack the "inner demons" he had with more skilled friendly partners and focused matchups.
+Cha 0s someone's triggered
+Cha 0s why is that?
Your being way to paranoid, it's melee not wwe
Professor Chaos Lmao i have never heard a person say smash is stayed i 100% agree with you
Why doesnt anymore like 4 it's promising and graphics are 10 times better from the previous. ungrateful
JASON
Does anyone else find the commentary annoying? They all sound like they're trying to talk over each other and try to say something important.
Exactly
+Jose Lopez They're also like 2 seconds late with everything they say.
+Jose Lopez I did like it when they talked about the character match up, the player styles, and the changes to both the character match up and the player styles.
+Steven Chartis I also liked that. There's definitely many good things that they talk about. I just don't like what it can become when they're talking about very personal stuff or trying to one up each other. It's distracting
JASON ZIMMERMAN! DISGUSTING! Proud of you man.
Armada=M2k+hair
John Smith Armada and M2K both have hair. And Armada is balding too...
mango bodied armada pretty hard at tbh4 ;P
Peach is so bad. She has no approach at all