Guitar Hero 3 Beta - "Through The Fire and Flames" Chart Comparison (Expert Guitar)

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  • Опубліковано 20 лют 2024
  • Through The Fire and Flames - Dragonforce
    You know I had to do a chart comparison for this, are you kidding? I live for this shit. I'm committing right here, right now, I will be doing chart comparisons for every song in the game, all 70+. It will take me some time, so don't expect this to start tomorrow, but soon. Fortnite chart previews will likely continue as planned, and the rest of the week will be filled with GH3 comparisons. I'll start it off with a few heavy hitters though, such as this.
    This beta chart is quite something. DEFINITELY harder than the full release chart. Climactic buildup is just straight up evil. Far worse than the Red Snake. Crazy to think that Darkly got this chart FC'd within 12 hours of playing it, that dude is built different.
    Anyways, sit back and enjoy watching a piece of preserved Guitar Hero history.
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  • @acai28
    @acai28 3 місяці тому +188

    Beta solo is so much tougher than final. I still can’t believe we got this chart

  • @cosmicjenny4508
    @cosmicjenny4508 3 місяці тому +80

    I'm losing my mind specifically at the orange wall at 4:59, Chris Vance was out for BLOOD when he charted this version.
    We are eating goooood this week.

  • @Norami4U
    @Norami4U 3 місяці тому +47

    That one strum note here. 0:41

    • @Norami4U
      @Norami4U 3 місяці тому +3

      Also would you say beta is harder than Smash Hits?

    • @DACARBOSS.
      @DACARBOSS. 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@Norami4Uyes

    • @aWiseMoose
      @aWiseMoose  3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah I think so@@Norami4U

    • @Ultimalocked
      @Ultimalocked 3 місяці тому +1

      I wonder if that note is an accident or something. Looks like something in Moonscraper where if you place the note a little too far it won’t automatically assign itself as a HOPO like the rest. Do we know if the official charting software was similar in this regard?

  • @BenAck912
    @BenAck912 3 місяці тому +84

    "Through The Fire And Flames but it was made in a time before the light."

    • @Mickelraven
      @Mickelraven 3 місяці тому +5

      I think it was made on a cold winter morning.

  • @cicabeot1
    @cicabeot1 3 місяці тому +35

    4:59 has gotta be the opposite of what happened with Ballroom Blitz in 80s. Instead of some jackass deciding to overchart it for the final release, they actually showed some mercy and charted this more sensibly. I bet Chris would’ve taken at least…two more days to FC this back in the day if the beta chart was the final version.

  • @truesmashfan127
    @truesmashfan127 3 місяці тому +12

    That beta chart was interesting. Several parts in that chart were all over the place and some were just evil. I was also not expecting that part in the Climactic Build-Up section or the part in the Rampaging Dragons section, either. Wow.

  • @Birbusreal
    @Birbusreal 3 місяці тому +13

    This is GH history right here. So happy to see a beta build. Here's hoping for more!

  • @josh_uz1520
    @josh_uz1520 3 місяці тому +20

    Its clear the person that hoarded this wanted to steer attention away from Fortnite Festival

    • @deathmeowtal1503
      @deathmeowtal1503 3 місяці тому +1

      They knew about fortnite festival 10 years ago?

  • @connorleake2472
    @connorleake2472 3 місяці тому +8

    The ending for the beta was nasty. I'd lose my mind.

  • @predeterminedmeat5024
    @predeterminedmeat5024 3 місяці тому +15

    4:59 That would've taken a while to get down. TTFAF FC might've taken a lot longer. 7:02 as well

  • @blakespinelli6969
    @blakespinelli6969 3 місяці тому +6

    what a huge fucking month for these series

  • @michelsouza7030
    @michelsouza7030 3 місяці тому +2

    Good to see people making vídeos of the great and old guitar hero

  • @Leyuhm
    @Leyuhm 3 місяці тому +3

    Thank you for the comparison upload to save me time lmao

  • @sirkjohno0129
    @sirkjohno0129 3 місяці тому +1

    Waiting for the day certainly came sooner than I expected 😂

  • @Erberberberi69
    @Erberberberi69 3 місяці тому

    Its so awsome we got acces to this chart!

  • @Lightally16
    @Lightally16 3 місяці тому

    At first, I noticed chords in places where the commercial release didn't have them, leading to an early score differential. Then the interspersed strum notes among the HOPO sections. As many others have said: evil

  • @swinelias
    @swinelias 3 місяці тому +1

    And to think the beta chart was going to be much more difficult. That's wild. In fact, it looks like this month was wild for both RB and GH in terms of beta versions of their games. Nice.

    • @Grandtarkus
      @Grandtarkus 3 місяці тому

      What happened with RB? Was there a beta leak?

    • @swinelias
      @swinelias 3 місяці тому +2

      @@Grandtarkus more or less, yeah. Specifically an early build of the Wii version of RB3, which among all had some charts for songs that never made it to the main RB3 song list. Although not all of them were 100% finished, but still.

  • @TheBassSinger
    @TheBassSinger 3 місяці тому +3

    As jankier as the old chart is, I kind of wanted them to keep it just because judging from the default score, 1 Mil for this song might be possible.

  • @TnZay
    @TnZay 3 місяці тому +16

    That beta chart is definitely a chart lol

  • @marchellokocakgaming5616
    @marchellokocakgaming5616 3 місяці тому

    Thanks, Darkly

  • @maddogupc
    @maddogupc 3 місяці тому +11

    I think it's possible to get 1000k score with optimized star power

    • @BlissBee
      @BlissBee 3 місяці тому

      No duh its been done on the official chart

    • @zacharycollins4958
      @zacharycollins4958 3 місяці тому +5

      @@BlissBee It's not possible in GH3 though as I believe it requires overlapping star powers which wasn't a feature back then. Beta chart might have enough extra notes to make it possible.

    • @BlissBee
      @BlissBee 3 місяці тому

      @@zacharycollins4958 ohhhhh

    • @jakesnussbuster3565
      @jakesnussbuster3565 3 місяці тому +3

      @@BlissBee not on gh3 it has not.

    • @jshooa4840
      @jshooa4840 3 місяці тому

      ​@@BlissBeeon clone hero, yes. On original guitar hero 3, no.

  • @ducksnsg2793
    @ducksnsg2793 3 місяці тому +1

    Should’ve used your own FC! I would never live a TTFAF FC down ever. So damn impressive❤

    • @aWiseMoose
      @aWiseMoose  3 місяці тому +2

      Thank you! I used a high hyperspeed setting in my video, and I typically don't like using hyperspeed in videos like this so it's easier to glance between both charts without the notes flying at you real quick.

  • @DACARBOSS.
    @DACARBOSS. 3 місяці тому +1

    holy shit soulless through the fire and flames 4

  • @raydog_97
    @raydog_97 3 місяці тому

    The Rock Meter and Score Meter were both raised up just little bit in the final, if you look at the strikeline on beta the rock meter and score meter are a little lower
    Edit: The Beta strikeline is fucking sick man

  • @icekyng219
    @icekyng219 28 днів тому +1

    if we had the beta version with the right squeeze for points, u could get a mil on gh3

  • @Rusli1659LPSoldier
    @Rusli1659LPSoldier 3 місяці тому

    the only difference between Beta and the final product version of Guitar Hero 3 is that the Final Product just left out 33 notes so thats why the final product chart was different to the beta version.

  • @coldzero8584
    @coldzero8584 3 місяці тому +1

    my jaw absolutely hit the floor when I saw 5:00 for the first time

  • @snes9xv129
    @snes9xv129 3 місяці тому

    1M POSSIBLE, I want to see it

  • @DBDHeLlSKiLLeR
    @DBDHeLlSKiLLeR 3 місяці тому

    Would love the beta chart in Clone Hero

  • @brandonjohnson260
    @brandonjohnson260 3 місяці тому

    You know that the beta chart has 20 more notes than the final, so that's why some of the sections in the beta chart are very hard to do.

  • @fluxie31
    @fluxie31 3 місяці тому +2

    It'd be cool to see ExileLord's squeeze bot to squeeze this, see if 1mil is possible

    • @froloffanton
      @froloffanton 3 місяці тому

      I bet it would’ve been. Adding the base score difference of 5048 into the optimal score of 991934 brings it to 996982. You’d only need to score more 3018 points under a revamped SP path. That’s getting just ~15 more single notes under 8x multiplier. It’s not this simple of course, considering the non-overlapping SP of GH3, but seeing as there release chart is more or less just a nerfed version, I believe 1mil would’ve been, and I heavily put this in parentheses, ”easily” possible.

  • @trooperV2003
    @trooperV2003 3 місяці тому +5

    2:45 just two different ideas entirely

    • @paulsd9255
      @paulsd9255 3 місяці тому +1

      It probably went in the ‘bass’ chart

  • @claudetheclaudeqc6600
    @claudetheclaudeqc6600 3 місяці тому

    Now I wonder if you squezze everything, how much a bot could do whit the sp power?

  • @venticated6012
    @venticated6012 3 місяці тому +1

    i bet alot of records would not have happened if the beta version became the final version cause alot of the sections are way harder lol.

  • @MetalMoshin
    @MetalMoshin 3 місяці тому +1

    0:32 can anyone explain to me how the score is slightly different even though the same number of notes were hit including sustains?

    • @aWiseMoose
      @aWiseMoose  3 місяці тому +1

      The prototype calculates points gained from sustains differently than the final version.

    • @MetalMoshin
      @MetalMoshin 3 місяці тому +1

      @@aWiseMoose ah, thanks for the clarification.

  • @trooperV2003
    @trooperV2003 3 місяці тому

    Chris really looked at this and said: Yeah this fucking sucks, release it

  • @BullnosePride
    @BullnosePride 3 місяці тому +1

    1:48 That part should of made the cut. It's not much harder and it sounds correct.

  • @paulsd9255
    @paulsd9255 3 місяці тому +1

    Are y gonna do the rhythm chart too?

    • @aWiseMoose
      @aWiseMoose  3 місяці тому +1

      Wasn't planning on it, but I could.

  • @froloffanton
    @froloffanton 3 місяці тому +2

    Funny how Solo Fill II remains un-nerfed in the co-op rhythm chart.

    • @aWiseMoose
      @aWiseMoose  3 місяці тому +1

      Wow I didn't even realize that! It's slightly different, but much closer to the prototype chart than the final lead chart.

    • @froloffanton
      @froloffanton 3 місяці тому

      @@aWiseMoose as most of us probably already know, Mother in GHII also had an un-nerfed outro solo in Co-Op. I wonder if it’s just a simple oversight, a leftover from Beta they didn’t remember to balance out the way the lead chart was.

    • @aWiseMoose
      @aWiseMoose  3 місяці тому +1

      @@froloffanton I think you might be on to something with that theory

  • @MKNerdMusic
    @MKNerdMusic 3 місяці тому +3

    Still a better chart than “Slither” by Velvet Revolver. 💀

  • @TR1PLE_6
    @TR1PLE_6 3 місяці тому +4

    5K points difference between them. Could 1M be possible in the beta chart? 👀

    • @she.luv.hexiii
      @she.luv.hexiii 3 місяці тому

      It’s already possible lol

    • @Jarran2R
      @Jarran2R 3 місяці тому +3

      @@she.luv.hexiiiit’s possible in clone hero with star power overlap, but not in gh3 which doesn’t have star power overlap

    • @sh4rpys
      @sh4rpys 3 місяці тому

      @@she.luv.hexiii Not in guitar hero 3

  • @guitarherojay
    @guitarherojay 3 місяці тому +6

    This chart is different

  • @LordSnowman
    @LordSnowman 3 місяці тому

    Did you really play the beta by hand?

    • @aWiseMoose
      @aWiseMoose  3 місяці тому +1

      No, this is bot gameplay for both.

    • @LordSnowman
      @LordSnowman 3 місяці тому

      @@aWiseMoose Oh, I felt like it was a struggle to FC them by hand.

    • @jakesnussbuster3565
      @jakesnussbuster3565 3 місяці тому

      @@LordSnowman its already been fc'd

  • @verbatimc3
    @verbatimc3 3 місяці тому

    b e t a

  • @mennymanuel28
    @mennymanuel28 3 місяці тому

    Final ver feels better, but beta is harder

  • @sBViC
    @sBViC 3 місяці тому

    Hi

  • @carloscarrillo9183
    @carloscarrillo9183 3 місяці тому

    Easy 😎👌🏻

  • @igorgarcez9242
    @igorgarcez9242 3 місяці тому

    First