"...my co-pilot in life." - such a sweet thing to say Jason. Your wife did an amazing job in speaking up. I am an avid fan of your channel. God bless you both and your family.
Thank you for sharing. It is hard to step away from something when we think we may disappoint those closest to us, it is amazing when they have the courage, wisdom, and grace to help us "off of the ledge". We have to have the wisdom to swallow our pride and listen. Great teaching from BOTH of you on this one.
Thanks Jason & Magda - great story and so true. Just watched this with my partner and reminded us of a day we were planning to fly to see some friends and a number of small things happened that just ended up with us getting out the car at the airfield and getting that feeling where something just tells you....todays not the day to go flying. What tipped the balance was that having been stressed by various issues before leaving home, not feeling 100% on my game and then checking weather at destination which was marginal and just thought.....nope not doing this!! Loving the SPC series Jason and have ordered my copy of your book...look forward to receiving it. Cheers from UK!
That is such an amazing story. It sounds like your wife was paying attention to all the training you publish and made the wise and informed decision to break the chain. Thank you for sharing the story, as we all can learn from it.
Excellent reminder to be aware of these sorts of external pressures. It's all too easy to overlook the severity of our negative mental state when you're preoccupied with a bunch of tasks. Especially in times when being stressed is almost the norm. Thanks for another awesome video, you two!
You guys are so sweet! Desire and peer pressure = pressure cooker / My first attempt at a flight exam, flew to the airport. Met with the examiner. We did the oral. He then asked me to plot three point flight. I did, I checked weather and it was very iffy. I really, really wanted to get my license today! I called in weather twice. Finally I walked back to the examiner and said these words "We cannot go, the weather is closing in, in fact I need to fly home right now (a 15 minute flight). I will have to reschedule." His response, "good choice because if you had said for us to go, I would have failed you." As a long time VFR pilot, I've never forgotten that lesson and was happy to spend another night somewhere in a hotel. Thank you for this real picture of how we all can succumb.
"GetThereItis" - we all encounter it. The same way for me - I get quiet. lol! I love the two of you together - sharing stories, enjoying aviation together, and letting us come along on the journey. I love aviation. What really makes it awesome for me, is to share it with my wife - the love of MY life. Please share more Jason & Magda videos! I am putting my wife through a co-pilot course that our local school is just starting to develop.
We are human and so deal with pressures, stresses, emotions and this is all part of being a human in the control of our own aviation. I have had similar situations; thanks for sharing this important message. I am also starting to check myself and if I find that I am making some critical errors before I get my takeoff clearance, it's time to head back to the hanger.
Both my husband and i are pilots, and there have definitely been times like these....we have an understanding that if either of us feels off....our flight gets a “no-go” and this has served us well.... Great story and thanks for sharing👍👍
Thank you both, this is an excellent video. You both look like you have a lot of fun just being together. Jason it’s awesome to see you have someone who shares you love and dedication for aviation, and is aware enough to remind you to use what you teach. Bravo to you both.
I love this story. I’m in the early stages of pursuing a life long dream of being a private pilot, currently beta testing the new ground school “which is amazing” I’ve spent the last 20 years since I was 19 driving truck for a living and we have a saying in Trucking “ there’s no load worth dying for” this story reminds me of that. Thank for all you do Jason and team
Story brought chills to me. I recommit to our safe pilot principles. Skipped a flight yesterday and your story reenforces it was the right thing to do. Thank you J and M.
As a young CFi, this video and message means a lot to me, just to hear something new to communicate to my students to make them safer and more competent! Awesome Jason, thank you.
This is the greatest video so far. As a student pilot I’ve had few experiences but I ended a lesson early when I wasn’t understanding the instructors guidance. Rather than trying it again I decided to stop and talk about it back at the hanger.
10 for 10! I never even considered the "stressors" at work, and their are many, effecting my flight prep and flight time but I certainly see that now. Nice lesson learned.
Great story for you both to share! A constant reminder that no matter how experienced there is always something that can catch you out or wind you up and set you up for fail. Really enjoying your content and the 31 day SPC, I am a newly qualified FI in the UK, we are back in lockdown and I am missing flying, your videos are taking away the sting! Book has been ordered
Great Job Magda!! My wife also keeps me level headed 😎. I’ve got 2 “short” stories about that Get-there-itis. The first was my own flight while building X-C time, I flew to KFAY Fayetteville, NC from KCPK Chesapeake, VA IFR to visit a friend and have lunch. Everything was fine and I did all of my due diligence in planning and execution. The only problem was I did feel pressured to get the flight in to meet a milestone in training and to see my friend, even though I knew I had a massive weather system moving into the region which could cause problems. We finished our lunch and enjoyed our time, then I remounted my airplane and began my IFR journey back home. Still no problems, as I climbed out in IMC from FAY, all of a sudden my ForeFlight app started pinging alert after alert after alert concerning weather. Icing Airmet, Turbulence Airmets, Convective Sigmets...I’m now thinking OMG!! Getting nervous, concerned, stressed!! I reviewed the info the ADC on the G1000 was giving and I’m still in IMC climbing to 7000. The temp is now dropping with heavy moisture visible, but not freezing yet. I took a breath...looked at the nearest WX METARs and made a decision, descend back to 4000 and more favorable conditions. I had to get the airplane home because it was scheduled out later in the day, but did I really. No! Although everything turned out fine, I learned a valuable lesson by scaring the heck outta myself at a time where I had just recently regained IFR Currency and Proficiency. I’ll post the second story on the FB post for Day 10. 😊
Isn't it funny how we create this made up external pressures in our minds? Happy to have learned the lesson and apply it so we don't go down that route again
@@MzeroAFlightTraining I’m committed to NOT allowing myself to feel pressured into any aviation evolution...it may happen, but I do feel I’m better prepared now to confront it. Especially after looking at report after report and seeing the string leading up to the final result.
While working for Cessna Aircraft in Wichita, KS I was a member of the Cessna Employees Flying Club where I had done all of my flight training up to that time in the mid 70's. I had scheduled a 172 to take some friends flying on a Saturday in the middle of winter. On the day of the flight a cold front had blown through and the sky was clear with north winds gusting over 35 knots and a temperature of -6 F. All of my flight training had been in Kansas so the wind was not a problem. I pulled the aircraft out of the hangar (which had no door) did my pre-flight and loaded everyone up for the flight. I followed the checklist and primed the engine as directed by the POH and cranked the engine. It almost started and I tried one more time to start it. By that time I knew that the plugs were frosted and only a pre-heater would get us flying. We all got out of the aircraft and pushed it back into the hangar and rescheduled the flight.
That's a really good story, illustrating the "stress" and "external pressures" part of the pre-flight self-evaluation. When it just isn't you day, it just isn't your day!
I'm playing catch up on the videos and I think they are an important part of training. I believe it's very important to know when to stand down and say do we really need to get there that bad? Even if it takes a Beautiful young lady to tell you that. Thanks for sharing this episode in the 31 day challenge. I will try to catch up before the end of the month. BTW, you mentioned Medford Oregon, that's where I began my flight training a few years ago and got away from it before I got very far. I'm restarting my training now in Southern California.
I hope you can get down to the boat show soon , I start my journey towards my PPL and you have taught me so much, but most important that are we always learning. And also, the start to a perfect landing is a perfect traffic pattern. And be in a good mental State.
Thank you for sharing this moment guys. It was very relatable. My first *real* cross country was literally across yours! Windsor Ontario (right next to Detroit) all the way to the Bahamas 🇧🇸. We made it there just fine but we were flying with a group of experienced pilots that had done the trip a few times and I was always feeling that I was behind them with preflights and everything going on at the fuel stops and even clearing customs at Freeport. Looking back after the trip I knew those were not my safest preflights because I was always trying to ‘keep up’ with the group which was silly... (and the Florida heat definitely does Not help!) we were all going to the same places! Who cares if I showed up 20 minutes behind the group!! Would also like to give a shout out to my lovely girlfriend for putting up with me being not the most pleasant during those times of pressure she’s a true gem 💎 and hearing Magda relate this story to us really shows that even the best of us can fall victim to these external pressures. Thank you so much for sharing the personal side of your lives with us, it means a lot!!
I have had a couple of flights that I cancelled due to the compounding of issues. If things just don't seem to be going right - stop and think. Once when the first plane selected had issues which was followed by the second plane having issues and the third being buried in the back of the hangar I decided to stay on the ground. I was upset but didn't take all those issues into the sky mentally. Another time we could not get the plane to start. We gave it 3 attempts. At this point I didn't want to fly but didn't say anything to the instructor. The mechanic came out to see if he could get it to start. By now the battery was pretty much drained and he couldn't get it to start. The instructor and I had a talk. We discovered that neither one of us would have flown even if the engine had started. We had both lost confidence and that is not a good thing to take into the air. I even cancelled a flight because my wife and daughter were upset with each other. I didn't want to have that distraction in my head. Always remember I"M SAFE. I get upset whenever I have to cancel a flight but I also say to myself - "I would rather be down here wishing I was flying than flying and wishing I was on the ground!" Oh yeah, you have a beautiful, intelligent copilot!
Jason, the details may be different, but I've heard this lesson hundreds of times over the course of my Air Force career as a weather forecaster. One week, early in my career at Eglin AFB (Ft Walton Beach, FL), we had to do a flight weather briefing to a T-39 crew (the T-39 is the old Sabreliner twin jet - no weather RADAR) who were to ferry a 3-star general back to DC. He was meeting with the local 2-star and needed to get back to the Pentagon (here's your get-there pressure). We had a nasty Gulf coast winter storm overhead and briefed the pilot (I wish I could remember this Captain's name - he was very gutsy) severe turbulence and severe icing with multiple freezing levels up to FL250, plus embedded thunderstorms, some severe. Again, this aircraft had no RADAR! The 2-star general was bouncing off the walls, trying to pressure the Captain to press on, but the Captain showed both generals the forecast (and other data we'd given him), then announced there was no way in hell that he'd attempt that flight. I figured he'd just blown up his career (distinctly possible), when the 3-star looked at the other general and said, "Screw it; let's just go to the Club!" I noticed the general's Command Pilot wings, and it occurred to me that his experience told him to trust his crews and not push an unsafe condition. But I'll always remember the young pilot that had the juevos to refuse an unsafe take off.
What a great story and example of external pressures. That pilot definitely made the right call, even when being pressured otherwise. Thanks for sharing that!
Jason, just listening to that story raised my blood pressure. I think you made the right choice with her help. I have a very funny story with a tragic ending but it is too lengthy for this space. Suffice it to say, listening to other peoples stories of these types of occurences has always made me have an appreciation for taking a breath and thinking seriously about how bad do I really need to get there. And over time everyone will experience some of these days where nothing seems to go right. It's just life. Don't let it ruin your life by thinking you just have to get there. Thanks so much Jason for sharing this.
"Get There-Itis"... To share a phrase told many times over.. "I'd rather be on the ground wishing I was flying, than be flying wishing I was on the ground." So glad you chose to drive at that point. When issues arise, it's best to just NOT fly.... (as disappointing as it is...) Well done Magda! (sp?) Hats off to you all at MzeroA!
Think I have read all the comments . Only one other poster wondering why the engines didn't start ? I'm curious as if you ever figured out what the problem was . What step was missed ?
Kudos to Magda for speaking up and interrupting the chain of events. And kudos to you, Jason, for taking a deep breath and listening to her. Courage and humility are a winning combination.
You are guys a beautiful couple. God bless you. I just want to share that I'm following your channel for the last 4 years... I'm a solo pilot only did not finish my way to a commercial pilot.. I'm old for that 42 now.. But I'll do it one day but my life is busy.. Maybe one day will meet. Cheets from Ontario Canada.
I was in Sarasota over Christmas this year. Im a private pilot currently working on my instrument rating. I was sitting on the ramp with the aircraft running. We were ready to head back to Kentucky. I called up clearance to request VFR flight following. Got the instructions. It was kinna warm. I had a small window before clouds shut us in. We had to go. Called up ground to let them know we were ready to taxi. They told us to standby. I listened to ground for a few and realized it was going to be some time. I asked ground how long they thought. They said and hour and a half or so. Wow. I did not want to eat up the battery waiting...and I didn't want to run the engine for that long. With the weather closing in and the fuel management issues (after running the engine for an hour and a half we would have had to stop somewhere for fuel) I just elected to cancel my clearance and shut down. After all, I was in Florida...and I was headed to Kentucky. If there ever was an incentive to have a flight delay.... Anyway we enjoyed another day of sunshine...and still made it home the next day with no issues.
Great story. It took some courage to share it. We all need a Magdalena with us in life and the cockpit to calm us down sometimes. (Mine is named Susan.) Looking forward to the co-pilot video.
I'm a little confused because this playlist doesn't seem to match the list on m0a.com/31dayspc/ and doesn't seem to have all the episodes listed there. I would watch on m0a.com but those videos fail to load...
Nice ADM lesson. Rule of "3" when 3 or more things go wrong it's time to STOP. As so many classes have mentioned, an accident rarely results from 1 thing, its the cumulative effect of many small things. Thank Heaven you have such a wonderful Co-Pilot! (In Aviation and Life).
Had that here in Zambia with my neighbor who flies a Cherokee. Atc outside the main international airport a relatively new thing for us and atc were un happy we didnt report immediately after leaving a farm strip way up to the north of the international airport. We had to land there to refuel and my pilot friend was summoned by atc after we landed. Ended up with delays and we were under pressure to get away again after refueling as we were trying to beat sunset again to get back to the home farm strip. Cruising down the runway on take off and I hear pilot friend say "oops forgot flaps" pulled some in and off we popped! Happily no major dramas but great example how process breaks down when you are under pressure - real or perceived!
I have a personal flight story that starts out eerily similar... a promised scenic flight, higher than forecast winds, an engine a bit short on oil, an hour delay to get going... and finally, while rushing to add that oil, I stood up under a lowered flap and cut the top of my head... At that moment I was angry, in pain AND wanting to take off - my girlfriend looked at me and said No. We spent that evening at the ER getting me some stitches, which is probably the best outcome to that adventure.
You could tell she was excited to tell the story because she had such a smile. Being under Stress is where/when we make the biggest mistakes. I would think flying would be so relaxing because you have to focus so much on what you’re doing to stay safe, so you forget about everything else that’s going on in your life for a while. I would say you pretty much have to compartmentalize your life to be a good pilot, especially when things are going bad.
Magda, let me quote J.K. Rowling, who had Albus Dumbledore say: "It takes a great deal of bravery to stand up to our enemies, but just as much to stand up to our friends." Great job!
You guys are a good Christian family. In addition to the knowledge you impart regarding aviation, I hope other people see that, and pursue it for themselves.
FAA, JAA/EASA ... are more or less the same privat pilot standards, sure air law differs but thats it. I learned according to FAA regualtions and converted it to JAA /EASA and privat pilot specs are the same. CPL was quite a diffrent story ... FAA CPL is a walk in the park compared to JAA / EASA CPL / frozen ATPL.
I have been soo frustrated with not sticking my landings so I can get to my solo. I've read and listened to every MZeroA lesson and video on perfect landings and crosswind but I've encountered the max crosswind on every Stage check flight and have yet to master it to move on. I know it took a lot for my flight Chief to say I need to change from part 141 to part 61 because I already have 50hrs and haven't soloed yet. I had put all this pressure on myself because all the other students were soloing at 20-30hrs. I'm heart broken but I'm not giving up. 😢😫 I want to be a pilot very much.
I learned from my instructor early in my training to give myself 3 mistakes before I cancel until another day, and he would count as I make the mistake to help me recognize them in the future. It's like a self-imposed barometer for IMSAFE.
Luckily, I haven't had that hard a time. I can say that a pilots decision making is tested much more away from home than leaving. You get the "Have to get back home itis" so decisions can be drastically different than deciding leave your home airport.
As men we are always looking for a problem to solve. The problem that you felt you needed to solve was flying everyone to Miami and you were not to be dissuaded (Fear of missing out FOMO); we all have it from time to time and it was fortunate that your wife was there to raise the flag. But you left me curious, why wouldn't the engines start?
The biggest lesson I'd hope everyone takes from this is that it can happen to you. 10 hours or 10,000, we're all susceptible to outside pressures, emotional factors, and lapses in good decision making. Once I've scrubbed a flight because I felt the accident chain being built and another time I was climbing out on departure when I felt things weren't on a favorable trend, and I diverted (was on an IFR flight plan) back to my home airport, shut down, and pledged to try again another day. Remember, you definitely won't make it to your destination on time if you have to visit an accident scene first.
G,day MzeroA.com channel, from Sydney, Australia. Thank you for your story of increased stress with many contributing factors. * I have used a number of thinking strategies for jobs I have had. * identifying the hazards and assess each risk: try to put in place safe steps. * (a rough one) P-P-P-P-P-P *Prior planning prevents piss poor performance. * recognise early stress emotion, tell yourself to slow down and double-check before doing the task. * SQAT Straight, square, accurate and true. Take care. 🇭🇲😷🅾
I had a similar occurrence a few months back. Left for the airport, forgot something, returned home, and left for the airport again. It’s a 2-hour drive. I missed a turn along the way because my mind was wandering, had to backtrack. Then I missed a second turn and backtracked again. Finally arrived, preflighted the aircraft, during which time I spilled (clean) sumped fuel on myself while trying to return it to the wing tank. Had to wash up. Pulled the aircraft out of the hangar and made the first start attempt. No success. After a cool-down period, made a second start attempt. No success. After another cool-down period, made a third start attempt. No success. Left the cockpit to check under the engine for evidence of fooding and saw fuel ported onto the nose wheel fairing. OK. Three strikes and you’re out...but I had many more than three clues that this was not my day. Things just were not going right for whatever reason. I cleaned up the aircraft, put it back in the hangar and drove the two hours home. Just did not want to continue this string of misadventures into the air.
Just watched steep turns a MZeroA vid 5 yrs ago. with wife Ashley. Now on intro there this lady (can't spell her name). Made me laugh. Jason is still the man.
"...my co-pilot in life." - such a sweet thing to say Jason. Your wife did an amazing job in speaking up. I am an avid fan of your channel. God bless you both and your family.
Thank you my friend
Thank you for sharing. It is hard to step away from something when we think we may disappoint those closest to us, it is amazing when they have the courage, wisdom, and grace to help us "off of the ledge". We have to have the wisdom to swallow our pride and listen. Great teaching from BOTH of you on this one.
Jason & Magda, this lesson convinced me that you are the right program for me!
Phil Scarpelli, student
Great lesson! You two are doing a fantastic service.
Great lady! Great instructor! Great story! Great lesson! Thanks for sharing!!!
You are so welcome!
Your sweetness, between each other, and humility are remarkable. Thank you for sharing, Jason.
Great video....great content, great people. I love the copilot course idea. My wife would love to watch them.
Thanks Jason & Magda - great story and so true. Just watched this with my partner and reminded us of a day we were planning to fly to see some friends and a number of small things happened that just ended up with us getting out the car at the airfield and getting that feeling where something just tells you....todays not the day to go flying. What tipped the balance was that having been stressed by various issues before leaving home, not feeling 100% on my game and then checking weather at destination which was marginal and just thought.....nope not doing this!! Loving the SPC series Jason and have ordered my copy of your book...look forward to receiving it. Cheers from UK!
That is such an amazing story. It sounds like your wife was paying attention to all the training you publish and made the wise and informed decision to break the chain. Thank you for sharing the story, as we all can learn from it.
Great to hear this fantastic story of teamwork from a loved one!
Excellent reminder to be aware of these sorts of external pressures. It's all too easy to overlook the severity of our negative mental state when you're preoccupied with a bunch of tasks. Especially in times when being stressed is almost the norm. Thanks for another awesome video, you two!
Fantastic story and I appreciate you both sharing it with us! Thank You! It is better to be humble, than to be humbled.
You guys are so sweet! Desire and peer pressure = pressure cooker / My first attempt at a flight exam, flew to the airport. Met with the examiner. We did the oral. He then asked me to plot three point flight. I did, I checked weather and it was very iffy. I really, really wanted to get my license today! I called in weather twice. Finally I walked back to the examiner and said these words "We cannot go, the weather is closing in, in fact I need to fly home right now (a 15 minute flight). I will have to reschedule." His response, "good choice because if you had said for us to go, I would have failed you." As a long time VFR pilot, I've never forgotten that lesson and was happy to spend another night somewhere in a hotel. Thank you for this real picture of how we all can succumb.
"GetThereItis" - we all encounter it. The same way for me - I get quiet. lol! I love the two of you together - sharing stories, enjoying aviation together, and letting us come along on the journey. I love aviation. What really makes it awesome for me, is to share it with my wife - the love of MY life. Please share more Jason & Magda videos! I am putting my wife through a co-pilot course that our local school is just starting to develop.
Thank you for your kind words Robert! I am so happy to hear you also enjoy aviation with "the love of your life" 🥰
We are human and so deal with pressures, stresses, emotions and this is all part of being a human in the control of our own aviation. I have had similar situations; thanks for sharing this important message. I am also starting to check myself and if I find that I am making some critical errors before I get my takeoff clearance, it's time to head back to the hanger.
Awesome story! Thanks for sharing. You guys look great together by the way
Thank you H
Wow, thanks for sharing this story guys!
What a great lesson, thanks you very much
Both my husband and i are pilots, and there have definitely been times like these....we have an understanding that if either of us feels off....our flight gets a “no-go” and this has served us well.... Great story and thanks for sharing👍👍
Thanks for watching! Always good to have a partner to help in ADM!
Thank you both, this is an excellent video. You both look like you have a lot of fun just being together. Jason it’s awesome to see you have someone who shares you love and dedication for aviation, and is aware enough to remind you to use what you teach. Bravo to you both.
I love this story. I’m in the early stages of pursuing a life long dream of being a private pilot, currently beta testing the new ground school “which is amazing” I’ve spent the last 20 years since I was 19 driving truck for a living and we have a saying in Trucking “ there’s no load worth dying for” this story reminds me of that. Thank for all you do Jason and team
Story brought chills to me. I recommit to our safe pilot principles. Skipped a flight yesterday and your story reenforces it was the right thing to do. Thank you J and M.
You’re a fortunate man to have a copilot like your wife! Well done!
As a young CFi, this video and message means a lot to me, just to hear something new to communicate to my students to make them safer and more competent! Awesome Jason, thank you.
This is the greatest video so far. As a student pilot I’ve had few experiences but I ended a lesson early when I wasn’t understanding the instructors guidance. Rather than trying it again I decided to stop and talk about it back at the hanger.
10 for 10! I never even considered the "stressors" at work, and their are many, effecting my flight prep and flight time but I certainly see that now. Nice lesson learned.
So true it all can sneak up on us
Jason- so what was the issue with the engines ? I thought you were going to say that you forgot to turn the fuel shutoff valve to on. LOL
Great video! Good job chiming in - I know that's a tough one. Awesome video.
Great experience, congrats for sharing, it's not easy sometimes.
Sometimes it’s not the easiest to admit your mistakes. Appreciate you watching!
Great story for you both to share! A constant reminder that no matter how experienced there is always something that can catch you out or wind you up and set you up for fail. Really enjoying your content and the 31 day SPC, I am a newly qualified FI in the UK, we are back in lockdown and I am missing flying, your videos are taking away the sting! Book has been ordered
Outstanding my friend! Always learning even when we're grounded
I can see there is a motivation in your life that is more than just running a successful business. What a powerful testimony to a Godly life.
Great Job Magda!! My wife also keeps me level headed 😎. I’ve got 2 “short” stories about that Get-there-itis. The first was my own flight while building X-C time, I flew to KFAY Fayetteville, NC from KCPK Chesapeake, VA IFR to visit a friend and have lunch. Everything was fine and I did all of my due diligence in planning and execution. The only problem was I did feel pressured to get the flight in to meet a milestone in training and to see my friend, even though I knew I had a massive weather system moving into the region which could cause problems. We finished our lunch and enjoyed our time, then I remounted my airplane and began my IFR journey back home. Still no problems, as I climbed out in IMC from FAY, all of a sudden my ForeFlight app started pinging alert after alert after alert concerning weather. Icing Airmet, Turbulence Airmets, Convective Sigmets...I’m now thinking OMG!! Getting nervous, concerned, stressed!! I reviewed the info the ADC on the G1000 was giving and I’m still in IMC climbing to 7000. The temp is now dropping with heavy moisture visible, but not freezing yet. I took a breath...looked at the nearest WX METARs and made a decision, descend back to 4000 and more favorable conditions. I had to get the airplane home because it was scheduled out later in the day, but did I really. No! Although everything turned out fine, I learned a valuable lesson by scaring the heck outta myself at a time where I had just recently regained IFR Currency and Proficiency. I’ll post the second story on the FB post for Day 10. 😊
Isn't it funny how we create this made up external pressures in our minds? Happy to have learned the lesson and apply it so we don't go down that route again
@@MzeroAFlightTraining I’m committed to NOT allowing myself to feel pressured into any aviation evolution...it may happen, but I do feel I’m better prepared now to confront it. Especially after looking at report after report and seeing the string leading up to the final result.
Get-there-itis. In the space industry - GO Fever. We all have to step back sometime and re-assess our situations. Great advice. Thanks for sharing.
Great input! Managing those feelings is a work of progress!
Guys, this was great. Thank you.
Amazing couple. Thanks for sharing such a beautiful yet powerful lesson. Love you guys
You rock Wayne thank you
Thank you Wayne! Love and safe flights to you!!!
While working for Cessna Aircraft in Wichita, KS I was a member of the Cessna Employees Flying Club where I had done all of my flight training up to that time in the mid 70's. I had scheduled a 172 to take some friends flying on a Saturday in the middle of winter. On the day of the flight a cold front had blown through and the sky was clear with north winds gusting over 35 knots and a temperature of -6 F. All of my flight training had been in Kansas so the wind was not a problem. I pulled the aircraft out of the hangar (which had no door) did my pre-flight and loaded everyone up for the flight. I followed the checklist and primed the engine as directed by the POH and cranked the engine. It almost started and I tried one more time to start it. By that time I knew that the plugs were frosted and only a pre-heater would get us flying. We all got out of the aircraft and pushed it back into the hangar and rescheduled the flight.
I love this! What a great dynamic and applying what she learned from you! 👏
7:56 this sounds like the start of an NTSB report 😂😂😂😂😂
This happens to all of us.
That's a really good story, illustrating the "stress" and "external pressures" part of the pre-flight self-evaluation. When it just isn't you day, it just isn't your day!
Great video thanks
I'm playing catch up on the videos and I think they are an important part of training. I believe it's very important to know when to stand down and say do we really need to get there that bad? Even if it takes a Beautiful young lady to tell you that. Thanks for sharing this episode in the 31 day challenge. I will try to catch up before the end of the month. BTW, you mentioned Medford Oregon, that's where I began my flight training a few years ago and got away from it before I got very far. I'm restarting my training now in Southern California.
Where did you go then at MCO if you didn't go to the boat show? Great lesson. Love Magda. Hopefully she is close to her PPL.
I hope you can get down to the boat show soon , I start my journey towards my PPL and you have taught me so much, but most important that are we always learning. And also, the start to a perfect landing is a perfect traffic pattern. And be in a good mental
State.
Thank you for sharing this moment guys. It was very relatable. My first *real* cross country was literally across yours! Windsor Ontario (right next to Detroit) all the way to the Bahamas 🇧🇸. We made it there just fine but we were flying with a group of experienced pilots that had done the trip a few times and I was always feeling that I was behind them with preflights and everything going on at the fuel stops and even clearing customs at Freeport. Looking back after the trip I knew those were not my safest preflights because I was always trying to ‘keep up’ with the group which was silly... (and the Florida heat definitely does Not help!) we were all going to the same places! Who cares if I showed up 20 minutes behind the group!! Would also like to give a shout out to my lovely girlfriend for putting up with me being not the most pleasant during those times of pressure she’s a true gem 💎 and hearing Magda relate this story to us really shows that even the best of us can fall victim to these external pressures. Thank you so much for sharing the personal side of your lives with us, it means a lot!!
Now that is a REAL cross country!!!
I have had a couple of flights that I cancelled due to the compounding of issues. If things just don't seem to be going right - stop and think. Once when the first plane selected had issues which was followed by the second plane having issues and the third being buried in the back of the hangar I decided to stay on the ground. I was upset but didn't take all those issues into the sky mentally.
Another time we could not get the plane to start. We gave it 3 attempts. At this point I didn't want to fly but didn't say anything to the instructor. The mechanic came out to see if he could get it to start. By now the battery was pretty much drained and he couldn't get it to start. The instructor and I had a talk. We discovered that neither one of us would have flown even if the engine had started. We had both lost confidence and that is not a good thing to take into the air.
I even cancelled a flight because my wife and daughter were upset with each other. I didn't want to have that distraction in my head. Always remember I"M SAFE.
I get upset whenever I have to cancel a flight but I also say to myself - "I would rather be down here wishing I was flying than flying and wishing I was on the ground!"
Oh yeah, you have a beautiful, intelligent copilot!
So true and so awesome great share my friend!
What a wonderful story and lesson.
Jason, the details may be different, but I've heard this lesson hundreds of times over the course of my Air Force career as a weather forecaster. One week, early in my career at Eglin AFB (Ft Walton Beach, FL), we had to do a flight weather briefing to a T-39 crew (the T-39 is the old Sabreliner twin jet - no weather RADAR) who were to ferry a 3-star general back to DC. He was meeting with the local 2-star and needed to get back to the Pentagon (here's your get-there pressure). We had a nasty Gulf coast winter storm overhead and briefed the pilot (I wish I could remember this Captain's name - he was very gutsy) severe turbulence and severe icing with multiple freezing levels up to FL250, plus embedded thunderstorms, some severe. Again, this aircraft had no RADAR! The 2-star general was bouncing off the walls, trying to pressure the Captain to press on, but the Captain showed both generals the forecast (and other data we'd given him), then announced there was no way in hell that he'd attempt that flight. I figured he'd just blown up his career (distinctly possible), when the 3-star looked at the other general and said, "Screw it; let's just go to the Club!" I noticed the general's Command Pilot wings, and it occurred to me that his experience told him to trust his crews and not push an unsafe condition. But I'll always remember the young pilot that had the juevos to refuse an unsafe take off.
What a great story and example of external pressures. That pilot definitely made the right call, even when being pressured otherwise. Thanks for sharing that!
Jason, just listening to that story raised my blood pressure. I think you made the right choice with her help. I have a very funny story with a tragic ending but it is too lengthy for this space. Suffice it to say, listening to other peoples stories of these types of occurences has always made me have an appreciation for taking a breath and thinking seriously about how bad do I really need to get there. And over time everyone will experience some of these days where nothing seems to go right. It's just life. Don't let it ruin your life by thinking you just have to get there. Thanks so much Jason for sharing this.
What a great story! Keep it up!
"Get There-Itis"... To share a phrase told many times over.. "I'd rather be on the ground wishing I was flying, than be flying wishing I was on the ground."
So glad you chose to drive at that point. When issues arise, it's best to just NOT fly.... (as disappointing as it is...)
Well done Magda! (sp?)
Hats off to you all at MzeroA!
Think I have read all the comments . Only one other poster wondering why the engines didn't start ?
I'm curious as if you ever figured out what the problem was . What step was missed ?
Great story! 10/10
CrewResource Management is very good practice in GA if you fly a lot with someone all the time. That courage too speak up is very hard. Awesome vid
What a great teaching moment! What a great and ideal soulmate Gods given you, you are an amazing couple!
More proof, “a good pilot is always learning”.
Yes sir!
Kudos to Magda for speaking up and interrupting the chain of events. And kudos to you, Jason, for taking a deep breath and listening to her. Courage and humility are a winning combination.
You are guys a beautiful couple. God bless you. I just want to share that I'm following your channel for the last 4 years... I'm a solo pilot only did not finish my way to a commercial pilot.. I'm old for that 42 now.. But I'll do it one day but my life is busy.. Maybe one day will meet. Cheets from Ontario Canada.
Putting your ego aside can save life..Thank you for the story..
So true and so hard to do sometimes. We must humble ourselves in aviation or aviation will humble us.
So true Michael!
I was in Sarasota over Christmas this year. Im a private pilot currently working on my instrument rating. I was sitting on the ramp with the aircraft running. We were ready to head back to Kentucky. I called up clearance to request VFR flight following. Got the instructions. It was kinna warm. I had a small window before clouds shut us in. We had to go. Called up ground to let them know we were ready to taxi. They told us to standby. I listened to ground for a few and realized it was going to be some time. I asked ground how long they thought. They said and hour and a half or so. Wow. I did not want to eat up the battery waiting...and I didn't want to run the engine for that long. With the weather closing in and the fuel management issues (after running the engine for an hour and a half we would have had to stop somewhere for fuel) I just elected to cancel my clearance and shut down. After all, I was in Florida...and I was headed to Kentucky. If there ever was an incentive to have a flight delay....
Anyway we enjoyed another day of sunshine...and still made it home the next day with no issues.
Hey !! I am CPL student in South Africa, is there anyway I can pre-order Ebook?
Is Magda Polish?
BTW my first scratch in most of my new cars was done the same way to the back rim.
nawet na kilku wideo u niego widac napis ciągnąć" na szybie
@@Kobe248ify tylko to jeszcze o niczym nie świadczy:)
Always! and no not Polish a little more Southwest like a 230 hahah
@@MzeroAFlightTraining Czech? :)
Great story. It took some courage to share it. We all need a Magdalena with us in life and the cockpit to calm us down sometimes. (Mine is named Susan.)
Looking forward to the co-pilot video.
I'm a little confused because this playlist doesn't seem to match the list on m0a.com/31dayspc/ and doesn't seem to have all the episodes listed there. I would watch on m0a.com but those videos fail to load...
I’m loving these videos in this 31 day challenge 🙏
‘Get-there-ism’ is probably one of the biggest killers in aviation. Always listen to your inner self and the logic in the pilot training.
Nice ADM lesson. Rule of "3" when 3 or more things go wrong it's time to STOP. As so many classes have mentioned, an accident rarely results from 1 thing, its the cumulative effect of many small things. Thank Heaven you have such a wonderful Co-Pilot! (In Aviation and Life).
Wonderful video , thanks ! Im late responding on the video but i might need a co - pilot check out some day .Hope to see you soon .
Had that here in Zambia with my neighbor who flies a Cherokee. Atc outside the main international airport a relatively new thing for us and atc were un happy we didnt report immediately after leaving a farm strip way up to the north of the international airport. We had to land there to refuel and my pilot friend was summoned by atc after we landed. Ended up with delays and we were under pressure to get away again after refueling as we were trying to beat sunset again to get back to the home farm strip. Cruising down the runway on take off and I hear pilot friend say "oops forgot flaps" pulled some in and off we popped!
Happily no major dramas but great example how process breaks down when you are under pressure - real or perceived!
lessons learned for sure!!!
Thats a really good lesson, "take a deep breath, we never have to be anywhere in Aviation"
I never like feeling rushed
So was there anything wrong with the airplane or what?
Glad to see "team" isn't afraid to speak up and break a link in the chain.
I have a personal flight story that starts out eerily similar... a promised scenic flight, higher than forecast winds, an engine a bit short on oil, an hour delay to get going... and finally, while rushing to add that oil, I stood up under a lowered flap and cut the top of my head... At that moment I was angry, in pain AND wanting to take off - my girlfriend looked at me and said No. We spent that evening at the ER getting me some stitches, which is probably the best outcome to that adventure.
Great Story.
Great video. I asked my wife to watch it. I'm going to need to talk her into the copilot program. But appreciate it.
You could tell she was excited to tell the story because she had such a smile. Being under Stress is where/when we make the biggest mistakes. I would think flying would be so relaxing because you have to focus so much on what you’re doing to stay safe, so you forget about everything else that’s going on in your life for a while. I would say you pretty much have to compartmentalize your life to be a good pilot, especially when things are going bad.
Awesome - thanks for sharing. Magda seems like a brilliant woman, you’ve done well there :)
Thank You Ady! Blue skies to you my friend
Smart Lady :) Well done Magda for speaking and Jason for Listening, cockpit CRM!
She is!!!!
Thank you Allan. Yes, in a situation like that the credit is to the pilot for being humble and re-evaluating the situation
Magda, let me quote J.K. Rowling, who had Albus Dumbledore say: "It takes a great deal of bravery to stand up to our enemies, but just as much to stand up to our friends."
Great job!
What a wonderful quote! Thank you for your kind words and support. Best wishes to you
You guys are a good Christian family. In addition to the knowledge you impart regarding aviation, I hope other people see that, and pursue it for themselves.
Also, if you start taxiing or even takeoff...you can always circle back, park plane and try again another day!
I had an instructor introduce me to the "three strikes, you're out" concept--another application of personal limits.
Can Jason teach Australian ground school?
FAA, JAA/EASA ... are more or less the same privat pilot standards, sure air law differs but thats it.
I learned according to FAA regualtions and converted it to JAA /EASA and privat pilot specs are the same. CPL was quite a diffrent story ... FAA CPL is a walk in the park compared to JAA / EASA CPL / frozen ATPL.
I have been soo frustrated with not sticking my landings so I can get to my solo. I've read and listened to every MZeroA lesson and video on perfect landings and crosswind but I've encountered the max crosswind on every Stage check flight and have yet to master it to move on. I know it took a lot for my flight Chief to say I need to change from part 141 to part 61 because I already have 50hrs and haven't soloed yet. I had put all this pressure on myself because all the other students were soloing at 20-30hrs. I'm heart broken but I'm not giving up. 😢😫 I want to be a pilot very much.
You're doing a great job! That extra studying will help you out in the long run, keep it up!
I learned from my instructor early in my training to give myself 3 mistakes before I cancel until another day, and he would count as I make the mistake to help me recognize them in the future. It's like a self-imposed barometer for IMSAFE.
That’s a good way to go about it, definitely helps you recognize and learn from your mistakes. Like always, a good pilot is always learning!
Bravo Zulu Magda!
Luckily, I haven't had that hard a time. I can say that a pilots decision making is tested much more away from home than leaving. You get the "Have to get back home itis" so decisions can be drastically different than deciding leave your home airport.
Very good point!
As men we are always looking for a problem to solve. The problem that you felt you needed to solve was flying everyone to Miami and you were not to be dissuaded (Fear of missing out FOMO); we all have it from time to time and it was fortunate that your wife was there to raise the flag. But you left me curious, why wouldn't the engines start?
The biggest lesson I'd hope everyone takes from this is that it can happen to you. 10 hours or 10,000, we're all susceptible to outside pressures, emotional factors, and lapses in good decision making.
Once I've scrubbed a flight because I felt the accident chain being built and another time I was climbing out on departure when I felt things weren't on a favorable trend, and I diverted (was on an IFR flight plan) back to my home airport, shut down, and pledged to try again another day.
Remember, you definitely won't make it to your destination on time if you have to visit an accident scene first.
G,day MzeroA.com channel, from Sydney, Australia.
Thank you for your story of increased stress with many contributing factors.
* I have used a number of thinking strategies for jobs I have had.
* identifying the hazards and assess each risk: try to put in place safe steps.
* (a rough one) P-P-P-P-P-P
*Prior planning prevents piss poor performance.
* recognise early stress emotion, tell yourself to slow down and double-check before doing the task.
* SQAT
Straight, square, accurate and true.
Take care.
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I had a similar occurrence a few months back. Left for the airport, forgot something, returned home, and left for the airport again. It’s a 2-hour drive. I missed a turn along the way because my mind was wandering, had to backtrack. Then I missed a second turn and backtracked again. Finally arrived, preflighted the aircraft, during which time I spilled (clean) sumped fuel on myself while trying to return it to the wing tank. Had to wash up. Pulled the aircraft out of the hangar and made the first start attempt. No success. After a cool-down period, made a second start attempt. No success. After another cool-down period, made a third start attempt. No success. Left the cockpit to check under the engine for evidence of fooding and saw fuel ported onto the nose wheel fairing. OK. Three strikes and you’re out...but I had many more than three clues that this was not my day. Things just were not going right for whatever reason. I cleaned up the aircraft, put it back in the hangar and drove the two hours home. Just did not want to continue this string of misadventures into the air.
5 mins in and I can already see a "get-there-itis" problem building...
I have a rule. If three things are not right before I fly, it's a NO GO fly day!
BTW my sister is Magda also! Lol
C N - your sister has a great name hahahahaha
Bank drive through lanes are ridiculously tight
Thank you!!!! hahahah
Just watched steep turns a MZeroA vid 5 yrs ago. with wife Ashley. Now on intro there this lady (can't spell her name). Made me laugh. Jason is still the man.
10 for 10...we have all been there...just think if the engines fired after extended cranking...your mindset may have led to a bigger issue.
spot on my friend
@@MzeroAFlightTraining I think pilots should have a reset checklist...to calm and refocus...
What a love affair you demonstrate with your wife. May you always feel that way about each other.
Jason. Put a ring on it (it being her left hand).
I thought he was married
looking a little smitten there Jason..haha
You are so, so blessed to have such an Amazing wife that knew how to exercise her cockpit resource management skills! (Does she have a sister?)
hahahhaha this made us both laugh!!!!!