DONNA: "Just promise me one thing. Find someone." DOCTOR: "I don't need anyone." DONNA: "Yes, you do. Because sometimes, I think you need someone to stop you." Donna was correct. The Doctor tends to need someone there to keep him grounded, to prevent him from becoming detached and too arrogant. And as good as the Doctor is, there is darkness within him, as there is within all of us. If anyone could attest to that darkness that dwells within the last of the Time Lords, the Family of Blood could. The Tenth Doctor is still suffering from the Time War, from the loss of Rose, from the loss of Donna, and that pain threatens to twist him up and make him go too far. And in this story he absolutely went too far.
Since I’m not a member, I know, for shame! I should support you somehow more Jules, someday! but anyway, where was I? Oh right since I’m not a member this is belated info at this point, but to add to it, (Also I know this is a crappy, obvious, and super trite metaphor) The Doctor is like an hour glass... everything he does through time, all the actions for good or bad, all the moments spent with companions is like the sand running out from the top into the bottom. It takes a toll on him, because all these actions leave him empty on top, alone. That's why he needs a new companion every so often, to take his life and flip it the other way again restarting the process. If he spends too much time in a mostly empty space, too much time alone, he starts drifting towards thinking more of himself. All these experiences he has seem big and important, the big mound of sand below a now empty life. We can trick ourselves we our kings of our own little hill, or in the Doctor's case, time, but he needs that flip, to reset him. To let him experience time through the eyes of a mortal being to keep him grounded, until the process starts all over again, and over and over and over.
Yeah, but for completely different reasons, I am sick of people pretending they are the same. The Doctor trying to save likes is NOT the same as what Master does and its extremely low IQ to compare the two.
@@harish123az The parallel however, is drawn to show how far The Doctor could go. He talked about how much good the disaster and their deaths meant for the human race as a whole, and he risked that all for those few. To "save" them. Well what if someone didn't want to be saved? What if someone, was maybe not fine, but accepted dying if it meant their people (more specifically, their children) better lives? He didn't let them. You could argue which is morally better but the point is he broke his own rules just because he couldn't bear the pain himself. What he did was selfish. And she killed herself to prove it; performing a selfless act herself to secure a better life for others.
I love that comparison so much as it shows just how far 10 has fallen he went too far and ultimately paid the price this is the first step of his downfall and why 11 is ashamed of what he’s done he even says it in ‘The Wedding Of River Song’ when he says ‘I got too big Dorian too noisy …. time to step back into the shadows’
Yes, very much like his old friend, the Master, I think. I thought it awesome that they took the Doctor there, showing he was just as capable of good or evil, of doing right or wrong, as anyone.
Not going to give any spoilers for later episodes (obviously) but this incarnation - while lovely and charming and funny and charismatic - is a monster. It becomes overt in this episode ('the Time Lord Victorious') but go back and watch it from the start - the Tenth Doctor was always a monster. Not saying that as a criticism - it's the logical conclusion for the Ninth Doctor's arc, and it's an example of great, subtle writing.
@@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg The way he confronted Giles, err I mean, the headmaster in School Reunion... the ending of Human Nature... Yep... Ever since Iceworld, where you first met the - oh no sorry, wrong era.
@@The-Cosmic-Hobo the Seventh Doctor was somewhere between truly machiavellian, and just psychopathic (so he was a lot of fun) and Tennant's Doctor definitely feels like a throwback to that era - maybe less moustache-twirlingly underhanded, but with a similar sort of almost maniacal single-mindedness.
3x11 Utopia Doctor: "Master, please" Master: "TOUGH!" The Waters of Mars Adelaide: "No one should have that power" Doctor: "Tough". Also remember how the Doctor never asks to be thanked": 19:19
"Three knocks is all you get!" In that moment, he was at the height of his delusion of omnipotence. He suspected he knew that four knocks meant his death... so he just had to prevent the monster guy from knocking a fourth time, and that would have meant to defeate fate itself. The Time Lord victorious is one of my favorite moments in New Who. While it's sort of a heel turn (brief as it may be), it's the first time we see him reconsider his role in life, rethink his choices, stop underselling himself, and admit that, since he's the last of the Time Lords, he represents the Time Lords as a whole now and even has responsabilities over their legacy. Very emotional, very charismatic acting from the godlike being that is David Tennant. And then Adelaide decides that she *shouldn't* escape fate, and the whole castle of cards the Doctor built in his mind immediately comes crumbling down. FUN FACT: in the novelization of *_The Waters of Mars,_* the two survivors Mia Bennett (Gemma Chen) and Yuri Kerenski eventually marry each other and have a daughter. Her name: Adelaide.
This is the primal example why the Doctor needs a companion - he has seen so much and lost even more and he has an enormous power which can easely be misused - he needs a human companion with their fragile short lifespan, their innocence, compassion and wonder of new things to pull him back and remind him of his responsibility when he gets lost.
Ten has a lot of emotional range. One thing about him that is undeniable, though: man LOVES being the Doctor. He loves that HE is the Doctor. So now, he is both furious and terrified that there's this prophecy hanging over him that he's got to exit soon. Add that atop all the grief he's been going through since the Time War, and he is both bitter and petulant, which when he is alone, with all the power and experience he has, is incredibly dangerous. This was almost his villain origin story. Adelaide stopped it right at the beginning.
I just remember Martha at the end of Series 3 telling people about the Doctor: "He never stops, he never stays, he never asks to be thanked." The Doctor at the end of this one: "Isn't anyone gonna thank me?"
Throughout the episode Tennant manages to display subtly that this is not the Doctor we know, and it's not through his actions. Even the way he carries himself is different
This is regarded as one of the best episodes of the revival. To this day, it still is. It’s a beautifully devastatingly sci-fi horror, with one of doctor who's guest star ensemble, writing, and a rich score from Gold. Not to mention an incredible pay off to the doctors arc, acted beautifully by Tennant.
This episode shows exactly why the Doctor needs his companions, like Donna said: "I think you need someone to stop you" Without that little bit of humanity the Doctor loses his.
@@mayotango1317the First doctor became a better Person becouse of his adventures with Ian and Babara. The Third doctor was very arrogant and was grounded by his assistens. And i think i dont have to explain six and seven.
This is a strong contender for my favourite Doctor Who story of all time. That scene with the Doctor walking away as everything is going wrong inside the base is just so... *masterfully* crafted. And the MUSIC. Everything about it is incredible. Peter O'Brien, who plays Deputy Ed Gold, is indeed Australian.
FUN FACT there is very prominently in Doctor Who cannon an alternate universe were Alidade didn't die and the Doctor went completely insane and became dictator of the universe, so all in all what i love about this episode is we see the doctor driven completely mad
@@Quinntassuim If they were ever going to have Smith come back in any capacity, even for an episode, I’d want him to play a regeneration of the Time Lord Victorious somehow. We all know he can play evil very well.
grinning through the "The laws of time are mine" antics is heavy dramatic irony, knowing the rug pull on the way. It's shot to look like a high moment, but it's actually his lowest.
You know, it only just occurred to me…People have said so many things about The Time Lord Victorious, but there’s one thing I’ve never seen anyone say, and I can’t believe I haven’t seen or even thought of it before: The Doctor did something here…something so wrong, so horrible, that a Dalek, even a _Dalek,_ wouldn’t cross that line. He broke a rule so huge that _even a Dalek_ bowed to it.
Concerning the discovery of liquid water detailed in this story, on 28 September 2015, NASA made an announcement that there was proof of liquid water actually flowing on Mars.
Yes, and this story in all seriousness makes me very antsy about what's up there. Snarks aside, what if that could happen-a sentient virus that can make all pandemics of history combined seem like a sniffle? I mean, it's good that they did have micro-filtering technology that could isolate it, though not good that some idiot on the Earth side of their logistics support sent them the wrong ones. To think that one tiny oversight can trigger catastrophic or even cataclysmic consequences...there are numerous real-world events in history-one rather recently-demonstrating that to be fact. I seriously have a lot of apprehension regarding what we could face on Mars, what with all the real-world talk about getting people up there. But, on the other hand, I don't see that happening by 2059; and even if it did I wouldn't be around to see it.
I love most of this episode but the real strength is in the ending with the Doctor getting a swollen head only to immediatly regret it. Fantastic stuff.
This is legit one of the finest hours of modern British TV. The writing here is so stark, a Doctor knowing he’s nearing the end thinking he can control time and change fixed moments that shaped so much, literally lording it over time victorious. It brings out a darker side to him that David just sells so much. I don’t laugh and cheer when I see the Doctor return to save the people at the base, I’m terrified of his overconfidence and manic state. I’m with Adelaide. Her committing suicide at the end to do her best to “correct” the events is such a brutal moment.
"We're in Pompeii... and it's volcano day!" The look on the Doctor's face when he realises where and when he is; that he's at another fixed point in time and what happens *must* always happen; and that he is face to face with a whole crew of fantastic, brilliant, and totally doomed humans... Jules: I would love to see him fix this and stop everyone from dying. Me: Are you sure about that? In the words of The Ninth Doctor back in Father's Day "your wish is my command!... but be careful what you wish for." You know, I struggle to name my favourite things, because often there are so many great things that I struggle to pick. Eccleston just barely beats Tennant to be my favourite Doctor, and Donna is my favourite companion, but I find it really hard to pick a favourite episode. That said, if you literally forced me to name just one favourite episode in all of Doctor Who, this is the one I'd name. It's just magnificent on every level, from the horror to the humour to the heartbreak. Magnificent. In a way I wish we could have seen more of The Time Lord Victorious. A Doctor who is more of an anti-hero would be fascinating to behold. The costuming work in this one was very clever - the prosthetics for the cracked skin concealed hoses (which were also threaded through the actors' sleeves) which produced the effect of them leaking water. Very creepy. Couple more little things, this comment is getting too long already: First, that is the same spacesuit from The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit, good eye! Second, I wanted to highlight the bone chilling music during this episode's final scene. The vocals in that track are singing just one word in Latin. That word is also the name of the soundtrack piece, and that word is Vale. And what does Vale mean? Farewell.
Has anyone else noticed this… two episodes about fixed moments in history, both titled "The _somethings_ of _somewhere"_ ("Fires" and "Waters" both being one of the four Greek elements). Coincidence?
One of my favourite episodes this, and a fantastic reaction as usual. People often mention the parallels here between the ‘Timelord Victorious’ and the Master, but I think The Doctor here is capable of much worse, because he can tell himself he’s still the hero. I don’t think the Master is able to lie to himself quite so well as the Doctor can in instances like this. I hope RTD gets to see your reaction videos, because I reckon he’d be pleased as punch. 😁
He can play an amazing villain, too. Truly terrifying. Check out the first season of Jessica Jones, or a little-known TV movie from 2005 called Secret Smile. He can be horrifying as a villain.
This is such a brilliant episode. Well-written, truly terrifying, and an amazing cast. A while ago I commented that the Doctor's companions often help to make him better. Here he is, still deep in his grief for Donna, but also left to his own devices. The doctor has a very dark side indeed, which isn't apparent in every single incarnation, but ten's "Timelord Victorious" encapsulates all of that. He needs companions, particularly like Donna, to keep this dark potential and ego in check.
Another episode that shows just how much of an *amazing* actor David Tennant is. Even the most subtle shifts of facial expression is spot on perfection. This episode is such a masterpiece. I really miss this era of Doctor Who. Nothing can compare to it, not even when RTD came back. This was the height of beauty, from the writing to the acting to the directing, all the way down to the music. Perfection.
Ah, Waters of Mars... The Fires of Pompei, but without companion. And also the one that has (imo) one of the best lines from 10th Doctor. ...And then you realize they ain't supposed to be "heroic lines" but the lines that represent his hubris, him slipping and falling instead. Becoming less kind, more cruel and cold. Walk with him, or don't get to walk at all. Tough. Also, I love that the episode plays the setup on the viewer. We KNOW he is gonna turn back and go save the people who are left, because that is what the Doctor does. ...No matter that they play the "will he won't he?" -thing a tad bit too long for my taste, we know he'll turn back for the others and we're rooting for him to do it. ...And it's ...Well, you could argue it ain't a wrong choice, but it ain't the right one either. ...Not to mention both Tennant and Duncan are just KILLING it with their performances in this!
I have been waiting with great anticipation for this episode. It's one of my favourites as Tennant was superb and the concept the water was almost as terrifying as the weeping angels. I look forward to your next reaction episodes 😊
I'd honestly forgotten how good this episode was, and this brought it all back. I always think back to the final two specials as "the big ones", which they are. But, wow, this was a stonker of an episode. Hard to believe RTD was so good back then, compared to now :(
My favourite episode of Tenant's era. This is the Doctor at his absolute lowest. With nothing left to lose and nobody to stop him, he becomes an entirely different person.
Hi jules! First time commenting, but just wanted to let you know, I have binged this entire playlist in about a week. I absolutely love how wholesome you are, showing your emotions, it’s honestly such a gasp of fresh air it’s lovely. The editing is incredible. And I love that every after all these years we get to watch someone experience doctor who for the first time. Thank you for being you, for creating this content and being so wholesome. Here is to all the other series of doctor who! Can’t wait to watch with you:) 😊
Oh no way, thank you!! I'm SO glad you have been enjoying the videos! That has made me so happy to hear how much you've liked them and to take the time to let me know is awesome. Have a lovely weekend 😊💜
This one regularly ranks in top tens for Doctor Who episodes, and it's easy to see why. And I love that the Mars base was named Bowie Base 1, in reference to David Bowie's song "Life on Mars."
Yes, the actor playing Ed is Australian Peter O’Brian, who’s starred in quite a lot of TV since the 80s, including soaps Neighbours and The Young Doctors, and later more gritty series like Underbelly and The Bill. Adelaide Brooke is played by Lindsay Duncan (CBE), who is a really outstanding actor whose career is way too long and distinguished to outline here. In fact the whole cast in this episode is superb. One of the best stories in DW’s 60 year history, no question. Sends chills down my spine every time I see it.
Not the first time this has been done: then name of the base is Bowie Base One, a reference to (no huge shock) David Bowie. Anytime you see a thing involving both Mars and David Bowie, it’s almost certainly a reference to The Spiders From Mars, one of Bowie’s backing bands when he was on stage as Ziggy Stardust.
The Tenth Doctor: Mental Brerakdown arc. I conside this episode the Doctor's lowest point, if only because this moment right here became his own Ultimate Cautionary Tale. Many call Ten the one who runs, both towards and away frrom everything. And it's absolutely dazzling, it really is, but it was really never meant to *last,* you know? Added with the fact that the loss he suffered was especially tight-packed (Ten's run pretty much coincided with DW's actual season years, which makes this incarnation only a few years old in-universe at this point; during which he lost Rose, went through the Year that Never Was, and his John Smith persona's "death" that also screwed with his head, and then Jenny, then Donna which were all chances at *understanding* the Doctor never got to keep)... yeah, something was bound to give eventually. It's almost like a greek tragedy, seeing it all spiral down. And to think, this particular incarnation of the Doctor started off ready to be so *happy*.
25:58 he actually did change a lot (2 people that should have died didn't and one died in a different way and location) but the captain saw how dangerous his behavioir was and she rectified his action, proving to him that he is not a god.....as he himself said there, he got too far this time, and as you said, it is probably also connected to him trying to change his own future but also probably to all of the people he couldn't save or that he lost (the last one being Donna)...but yeah another great episode and another great reaction from you.
@julesreacts hey Jules ..yes he's Australian It's Peter O Brien who played Shane Ramsay in neighbours wayyy back at the beginning. Was also a main character in The Flying Doctor... Great reaction again❤
This episode is easily my favourite of this run of specials, though I agree with you about how scary it gets. In a way it's a culmination of Ten's character development and traits we saw all the way back in his first episode about how far he can go when he's sure he's in the right. It's not surprising that where a lot of characters would be wowed and impressed by him and the TARDIS, the people he saved this time were just freaked out. It's also interesting that like with The Fires of Pompeii it touched on the complications and limitations of time travel. Already by the end of the episode he's starting to have his realisation about going too far and a getting a sense that there is a heavy price to be paid for his hubris, though that's nothing compared to what awaits him. It was also interesting to have a shout out to the Ice Warriors, given that at this point they still hadn't been seen since the Third Doctor era. They were alluded to in the Christmas Invasion as well when the project director wonders if the aliens were martians and the UNIT officer points out that they aren't as Martians look completely different, as it was a reference to the fact that there was already an established race from Mars. Oh and you're right about the guy being Australian, from Adelaide specifically though maybe he'd been living and working in the UK long enough that his accent wasn't as clear.
17:40 This is the acting.....all these monologues...."the rules of time are mine", "we are fighting time itself and I am gonna win" and "time lord victorious"...it is strong, emotinal and dark.
Fan favorite episode. I myself watch it WAY too rarely. My favorite time of Doctor Who comes later but up to this point, series 4 was my ABSOLUTE favorite. Just how long are we gonna be able to enjoy David Tennant in the role? This was actually the first time where I got LEGIT scared of him. And I DISAGREED with his mentality and his statements. "Timelord Victorious" ... that doesn't sound like "Ten" anymore.... .... Donna was right.... He needs people... Someone.....
Remember back in The Sound Of Drums when the Doctor said that he and the Master used to be friends? I couldn't quite believe it at first, that those two could ever have gotten along. But here, when the Doctor does this; breaks every rule just to prove that he can... maybe the two of them aren't so different. This episode, right here, is the line between the Doctor and the Master. (the audio dramas reinforce that. One of them has a very young Master, trying to help people and do good... but he 'helps' in the same way the Doctor does here. And he didn't have anyone to stop him or tell him it was wrong. That was the start of him becoming... what he is now).
@@storageheater Yeah, they're all over the comments insulting people. The audio Master is awesome and all, but this guy doesn't need to be quite such a d*ck when pushing his opinion.
@@techniquerules _Masterful._ It was made to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Master's first appearance, and has eight different incarnations of the Master in it. It's a lot of fun. Jo Grant is in it.
Bowie Base One, answers the song "Is there Life on Mars" from 1971,....yet, there are not Spiders from Mars 🤫 This was the Halloween Special of 2009. David Tennant, had been portraying Shakespeare's "Hamlet" in a few months of theatre -which is why these 'specials' were done, not a full series.
I get why it couldn't happen, but there is a part of me that would have loved to see Dark Doctor (sorry for usurping your title Mr President :D). Even if it was just for one episode, seeing the Doctor with all the brakes off would have been interesting to say the least. One thing both Russel and Stephen had in common, it was the ability to take everyday things and situations and make them terrifying. Gas masks, angels, and in this, water. I remember being freaked out by this episode, and I was 37 when it was first shown. :D It was something about the mouth and the blank stare. The water pouring out was incidental, but the expression on the character's faces got to me on a subconscious level in a way few Who antagonists have managed. And yes, the actor you played Ed Gold, named Peter O'Brien, is from Australia, where he rose to prominence in the TV shows Neighbours and The Flying Doctors (about the Royal Flying Doctor Service, not anything Time Lord related. :D).
Hearing the cloister bell right at the end........ The first time the cloister bell was used in Doctor Who was a Classic Doctor's final story. "...reserved for wild catastrophes and sudden calls to man the battle stations". I only think it was used maybe 3-4 times tops in the entire 26 year run of the Classic era, and thankfully they haven't over-used it here in NuWho either.
Loved your reaction as always ! I've been eagerly awaiting this one all day XD I love that the monsters were kind of a side note on this one and that we didn't need to know who or what they were. The main focus was the story and The Doctors darker side. He really does need that human companion
This is definitely one to re-visit more then frequently, because it's just so.. sad. I've watched a lot of this show for so long but no other episode has ever felt so tragic. Between losing companions, and regeneration stories, and episodes like Father's Day, this one is just so dissapointing on so many levels. Not because it's a bad episode, not at all. But it's the disappointment you feel in your hero; the character you're supposed to trust the most. It's such an unforgettably sad, contained story. Seeing it over again and thinking about it in restrospect has just really brought it home again just how amazingly grim this story is.
Omg your shock at the first jumps scare was priceless! 🤣There needs to be a supercut of your reactions to the scary parts in this episode because they had me laughing so hard! 🤣🤣🤣 That said, the Doctor was being a very naughty boy indeed! I think what Captain Brookes did at the end was a massive middle finger to him, and he should have just left them when he first thought of doing so. Roll on next week though for another exciting adventure!
The Time Lord Victorious is much scarier than all the other aliens combined XD I wish we had an entire season with him! It'd be so much fun! I agree with what you said, what Donna pointed out, that he needs someone to stop him. That moment when he's talking and he has no one to answer or disagree with him is so sad. Also, I really love the music in this one. So good.
Hi Jules! I've finally caught up! Right on time for one of my favourite episodes ever!! This one is peak David Tennant for me, in general it's up there with Broadchurch series 1 finale as one of his best performances. Hope you enjoyed it :)
I've been freaked out by some monsters before on Doctor Who, but this one is legitimate nightmare fuel. Not only is it genuinely terrifying for that, but also the Doctor's sort of turn. It's scary, unnerving how unhinged the Doctor becomes WITHOUT a companion. Like he NEEDS it to keep him balanced because if he doesn't... this. Gosh, this one is good. Can't wait for the next special.
This is what Doctor Who about sweetheart. Scary and pure horror. This is why this episode is one of my favourite.😂 That scene with the fire and seeing The Doctor have flashbacks to when he was talking about the time lords was incredible. Fantastic acting that was from David Tennant. The Doctor mess up big time here and broke his own rules but I understand why he did it because he was sick of losing good people and not able to save them and don’t forget he still scar after what happened in the series 4 finale so it no wonder why he did what he did. That scene back on earth was a strange feeling. Something didn’t feel right. Yeah we won but this time I didn’t feel happy about it like the other times we won.
This is the peak of David Tennent's run as the Doctor. It shows his compassion, but it also shows his flaws and his hubris. I get chills every time I watch this special. The Timelord Victorious is actually explored in a run of books, comics, and audio dramas that further explore his fall to the dark side.
I recall seeing this episode on PBS once but it has been quite awhile since I've seen it last, have a beautiful rest of the week awesome friend Juliette.🙋🐈⬛🇦🇺
A mini camera on wheels is just perfect way to describe Gadget lol. Water Zombies kinda freaked me out when this episode came out and while it didnt land for everyone it freaked me out when i was a kid. The Flood were sealed away by a different Marsian species who come from classic (this is mentioned in the episode). Gemma Chan is also in this episode and you might recognize her from the films Eternals, Captain Marvel, Crazy Rich Asians and the tv series Human amongst others. This episode shows a very dark side of the doctor and i do wish it was explored a little more in the TV Show since its such a intriguing concept. They did do something with it in expanded media which is very complicated to even explain lol. Everyone is freaked out on what the doctor did with two of the characters actually scared and Captain Brook is actually angry that the whole of history could have been changed because of the Doctor's ego saving ''little people''. She stood up to him in defiance and killed herself to prove that point
Also in the behind the scenes show the Flood were suppose to look even more scarier and got to the point where they had filmed some scenes with the scarier look before it having to be reshot
P. S. this was the kind of Hammer Horror you'll get watching many of the fourth doctors stories, they did some good spooky episodes during that run, don't let anyone tell you they aren't worth it because of the special effects.
"We're not just fighting the flood. We're fighting time itself - AND I'M GONNA WIN!" It was in that moment The Doctor snapped - remember what Davros said "The anger, the fire, the rage of a timelord." Also loved the geuine scream on the first meeting of The Flood xD
Another great one. Super Creepy. Nice Silent Running vibe. He does like being right. Laughs out loud when she agrees they should have bikes. Doctor is Out of Control. He needs a companion. And he's running. Running from fate.
among my all-time favourite episodes, it really pushes the doctor's character while at the same time having a phenomenally memorable setting, monster and cast of characters. it's amazing, and the first who episode in HD, which is a nice bonus
Good day, Jules! 💜 "Oh no. I'm expecting horror. Don't show his face!" - and reduced to a few weaker, and ever higher, tiny squeaks.😱 A great episode. In my opinion possibly the scariest Doctor Who of the new Who series. The make-up is freaky, and the water, constantly dribbling, drooling, flowing, is just intense., and as always the music helps this along. Many good lines in this one - I like the deadly serious observation - "Water always wins." It is obvious that the Doctor doesn't always choose his destination, sometimes the TARDIS seems to plop him into things, for unknown reasons, but often where he can fix things. What I always think about in this one is, what was the reason here? As you correctly point out, this has been a season of the Doctor, at times, full of himself. Is this the TARDIS serving a lesson in humility, or providing a moment for him to see himself going too far, see his out of control hubris - without the Doctor how would all the little people have a chance - showing him it might be why Ood Sigma thinks his song must end soon.🤔 This was indeed a Special episode. One of my top views in the whole of Doctor Who. Thank you, remaining interested, and for doing such a wonderful job of editing, once again. Excellent work crafting a Fantastic reaction!🥰 Have a better day, Jules!😉💜😊 An extra cup of coffee, a bit of chocolate - you'll be "right as rain" - uh, well, let's leave water out of this - you'll be quickly better! Thanks again, and see you in your next.🤗
The thing is at ANY point the doctor could’ve just taken the crew to another time/planet to live out their lives and history would still be intact. Yes they would miss home/family but they would’ve had each other and knowing they saved the world. The thing is the doctor doesn’t think like us he’s not human plus his recent trauma. 10 in particular is very proud. If he can’t save everyone perfectly exactly the way he wants he throws a tantrum/ blames himself and nobody should get saved. Just like pompeii, That’s why he needs someone like Donna to ground him and point out there’s another way.
Forget the Vashta Narada, the Weaping Angels, the Cybermen or Daleks. This episode had the most terrifying monster of all. The Doctor, when he decides the rules no longer apply to him.
Been waiting for this one. Horror, isolation, and the downfall of a good man. Brilliant story-telling. This has been coming for a long time. He has been beaten down so much and lost so many people, that his rage was bound to take over. This was just the last straw.
This episode goes deep. Firstly going into the whole fixed point in time stuff where major points in time cannot be changed no matter what you do and second is showing the doctors darker side but explored even further here with the timelord victorious stuff
Here we go with another one of modern Who's greatest episodes: the day the Doctor went too far. Well, one of them. It truly is an incredible episode which does some fantastic character work with the Doctor. Despite his charm and carefree attitude, the Tenth Doctor's dark side has always lurked just below the surface. I loved watching your expression change from excitement at the end, to shock and uncertainty as the Doctor declared himself Time Lord Victorious. It's such a hallowing ending. Now for some trivia: The Doctor refences the Ice Warriors, a classic enemy native to Mars. They're a reptilian race decked out in cybernetic armour with a code of honour, who first appeared in the Second Doctor era, before becoming good guys in the Third Doctor era. You'll meet them eventually. Interestingly, despite having a recurring enemy from Mars, as well as a story called 'The Pyramids of Mars', this is the first time the show has actually had a story set on Mars. Now for the biggie. In 2020 there was actually a multimedia event called 'Time Lord Victorious', which followed on from the end of this episode. It primarily featured the Eighth, Ninth and Tenth Doctors and was spread across all of Doctor Who's non-TV media, including novels, audio dramas, comic books and the Doctor Who Magazine comic strip. There was also a live escape room event that connected to the story, an animated series on the Doctor Who UA-cam channel and even a t-shirt that contributed to the story. The core story centred around the idea that Doctor's actions here fractured time, and the Tenth Doctor used that fracture to go back to the Dark Times, which he's mentioned before. There, he met a race who were responsible with designating the lifespan for every species in the universe, and he basically continued on his power trip and decided he'd stop death from existing. Meanwhile, the other stories in the range follow different characters dealing with the universe going screwy because of this, leading to the Eighth and Ninth Doctors going back to the source and confronting their Tenth self. Oh yeah and there's a psychotic Ood hitman in a dinner suit named Brian who keeps popping up. It's a bit confusing and the individual stories are hit or miss, but I think the main stories are all great and the central premise is fascinating. It was an interesting experiment and I think it worked for the most part. Anyway Jules, I'm soooo looking forward to the next few weeks! It's going to be a real thrill ride.
Ashley 👋 it's such a wonderful episode and I'm so glad you agree! David Tennant is just such a perfect Doctor. He has all the characteristics that I feel embody the Doctor to a T. That dark side of his, though.... You'd not want to get in a fight with him, that's for sure 🤣
Loved the brief reference to the Ice Warriors, a race from Classic Who from Mars. It’s a good episode and Tennant’s performance in his “Time Lord Victorious” mode (IMO that attitude feels like it has traces of The Master and a classic Who character “The Valeyard”) is good. I did always think Doctor could have avoided the worst parts of this moment if instead of taking the survivors home and risking the future he took them to a remote corner in the distant future to live out their lives in peace. History can continue as it was meant to and the survivors could live without possibly interfering (although I guess it could interfere with history at a later point but still)
Interestingly the design of the infected in this one was a point of some debate because even the writers thought they'd gone too far and made something truly horrific. I know they were talking about dialing it back, I don't know if they actually did (hopefully not). The reference to ancient martians in this is a pretty hefty bit of classic series continuity; The Ice Warriors were a fairly iconic alien race back then. In the original version of the script it was going to be more explicit that they had encountered whatever this thing was before, and were terrified enough that they left behind a warning to never disturb the ice.
THE best of the season "5" specials. Man I've been waiting to see this reaction since you started this adventure into Dr. Who. The Time Lord Victorious book series is so worth you reading J-Bird you will love it. Such a good episode probably THE best of his entire run in my view.
Top 5 episodes of the whole show. Absolutely love this one and it’s been one of my favourites since I was 9. The emotion, horror and action is absolutely perfect. Not to mention that ending!!!
Awesome episode and awesome reaction. I absolutely love watching these, I love how deeply you care about this show and character. All your comments are superb!
one of the most terrifying episodes of the whole show. and not just because the monsters were so scary but because it shows the doctor without someone to temper him.
DONNA: "Just promise me one thing. Find someone."
DOCTOR: "I don't need anyone."
DONNA: "Yes, you do. Because sometimes, I think you need someone to stop you."
Donna was correct. The Doctor tends to need someone there to keep him grounded, to prevent him from becoming detached and too arrogant. And as good as the Doctor is, there is darkness within him, as there is within all of us. If anyone could attest to that darkness that dwells within the last of the Time Lords, the Family of Blood could.
The Tenth Doctor is still suffering from the Time War, from the loss of Rose, from the loss of Donna, and that pain threatens to twist him up and make him go too far. And in this story he absolutely went too far.
Yes ☹️ we've seen snippets of it so far, but he really does need someone. It worries me, knowing he's now on his own...
hes even more on edge since of the prophecy that someone will knock 4 times and he will die so he might make decisions that are not usually him
Since I’m not a member, I know, for shame! I should support you somehow more Jules, someday! but anyway, where was I? Oh right since I’m not a member this is belated info at this point, but to add to it,
(Also I know this is a crappy, obvious, and super trite metaphor)
The Doctor is like an hour glass... everything he does through time, all the actions for good or bad, all the moments spent with companions is like the sand running out from the top into the bottom. It takes a toll on him, because all these actions leave him empty on top, alone. That's why he needs a new companion every so often, to take his life and flip it the other way again restarting the process. If he spends too much time in a mostly empty space, too much time alone, he starts drifting towards thinking more of himself. All these experiences he has seem big and important, the big mound of sand below a now empty life. We can trick ourselves we our kings of our own little hill, or in the Doctor's case, time, but he needs that flip, to reset him. To let him experience time through the eyes of a mortal being to keep him grounded, until the process starts all over again, and over and over and over.
"the laws of time are mine, and they will obey me!" is a reflection of the Master saying "I am the master, and you will obey me" in the old series.
Also, "tough".
Yeah, but for completely different reasons, I am sick of people pretending they are the same. The Doctor trying to save likes is NOT the same as what Master does and its extremely low IQ to compare the two.
@@harish123az The parallel however, is drawn to show how far The Doctor could go. He talked about how much good the disaster and their deaths meant for the human race as a whole, and he risked that all for those few. To "save" them.
Well what if someone didn't want to be saved?
What if someone, was maybe not fine, but accepted dying if it meant their people (more specifically, their children) better lives? He didn't let them. You could argue which is morally better but the point is he broke his own rules just because he couldn't bear the pain himself. What he did was selfish. And she killed herself to prove it; performing a selfless act herself to secure a better life for others.
I love that comparison so much as it shows just how far 10 has fallen he went too far and ultimately paid the price this is the first step of his downfall and why 11 is ashamed of what he’s done he even says it in ‘The Wedding Of River Song’ when he says ‘I got too big Dorian too noisy …. time to step back into the shadows’
“State your name, rank, and intention.”
“The Doctor. Doctor. Fun.”
One of my favorite lines of the whole series.
YES!!! Brilliant line.
Chilling to realise that for The Doctor there's only one bad day between "Fun" and "THE LAWS OF TIME ARE MINE"
THIS is dark doctor who. THIS is the moment he almost became the enemy. Not a care for the rules, not a care for others lives until it was too late.
Yes, very much like his old friend, the Master, I think. I thought it awesome that they took the Doctor there, showing he was just as capable of good or evil, of doing right or wrong, as anyone.
I very sorely wish they had pursued the Valeyard storyline... instead of ignore it.
Not going to give any spoilers for later episodes (obviously) but this incarnation - while lovely and charming and funny and charismatic - is a monster. It becomes overt in this episode ('the Time Lord Victorious') but go back and watch it from the start - the Tenth Doctor was always a monster.
Not saying that as a criticism - it's the logical conclusion for the Ninth Doctor's arc, and it's an example of great, subtle writing.
@@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg The way he confronted Giles, err I mean, the headmaster in School Reunion... the ending of Human Nature... Yep...
Ever since Iceworld, where you first met the - oh no sorry, wrong era.
@@The-Cosmic-Hobo the Seventh Doctor was somewhere between truly machiavellian, and just psychopathic (so he was a lot of fun) and Tennant's Doctor definitely feels like a throwback to that era - maybe less moustache-twirlingly underhanded, but with a similar sort of almost maniacal single-mindedness.
3x11 Utopia
Doctor: "Master, please"
Master: "TOUGH!"
The Waters of Mars
Adelaide: "No one should have that power"
Doctor: "Tough".
Also remember how the Doctor never asks to be thanked": 19:19
more proof that he was becoming something else as the Doctor would normally not asked to be thanked.
Also "certain little people", after The Doctor had said previously that no one is unimportant, even the little people.
"Three knocks is all you get!"
In that moment, he was at the height of his delusion of omnipotence.
He suspected he knew that four knocks meant his death... so he just had to prevent the monster guy from knocking a fourth time, and that would have meant to defeate fate itself.
The Time Lord victorious is one of my favorite moments in New Who.
While it's sort of a heel turn (brief as it may be), it's the first time we see him reconsider his role in life, rethink his choices, stop underselling himself, and admit that, since he's the last of the Time Lords, he represents the Time Lords as a whole now and even has responsabilities over their legacy.
Very emotional, very charismatic acting from the godlike being that is David Tennant.
And then Adelaide decides that she *shouldn't* escape fate, and the whole castle of cards the Doctor built in his mind immediately comes crumbling down.
FUN FACT: in the novelization of *_The Waters of Mars,_* the two survivors Mia Bennett (Gemma Chen) and Yuri Kerenski eventually marry each other and have a daughter. Her name: Adelaide.
This is the primal example why the Doctor needs a companion - he has seen so much and lost even more and he has an enormous power which can easely be misused - he needs a human companion with their fragile short lifespan, their innocence, compassion and wonder of new things to pull him back and remind him of his responsibility when he gets lost.
That final confrontation between Brooke and the Doctor is still such an incredible moment... I love the shift in music after he says "tough"
i love when we get to see The Doctor's darker side. he really is one bad day away from being a villain.
I love how this episode is kinda like a historical episode, where the cast are significant figures that the doctor knows of, just set in the future.
Ten has a lot of emotional range. One thing about him that is undeniable, though: man LOVES being the Doctor. He loves that HE is the Doctor.
So now, he is both furious and terrified that there's this prophecy hanging over him that he's got to exit soon. Add that atop all the grief he's been going through since the Time War, and he is both bitter and petulant, which when he is alone, with all the power and experience he has, is incredibly dangerous. This was almost his villain origin story. Adelaide stopped it right at the beginning.
I just remember Martha at the end of Series 3 telling people about the Doctor: "He never stops, he never stays, he never asks to be thanked."
The Doctor at the end of this one: "Isn't anyone gonna thank me?"
@@ThePandorica a red flag if ever there was one
Nice catch!
Throughout the episode Tennant manages to display subtly that this is not the Doctor we know, and it's not through his actions. Even the way he carries himself is different
This is regarded as one of the best episodes of the revival. To this day, it still is. It’s a beautifully devastatingly sci-fi horror, with one of doctor who's guest star ensemble, writing, and a rich score from Gold. Not to mention an incredible pay off to the doctors arc, acted beautifully by Tennant.
This episode shows exactly why the Doctor needs his companions, like Donna said: "I think you need someone to stop you" Without that little bit of humanity the Doctor loses his.
@@mayotango1317who says they haven't? damn classic series elitists
@@mayotango1317the First doctor became a better Person becouse of his adventures with Ian and Babara.
The Third doctor was very arrogant and was grounded by his assistens.
And i think i dont have to explain six and seven.
Is it humanity when you're not human? 🤔
@@mayotango1317 Oh give it a rest.
This is a strong contender for my favourite Doctor Who story of all time. That scene with the Doctor walking away as everything is going wrong inside the base is just so... *masterfully* crafted. And the MUSIC. Everything about it is incredible.
Peter O'Brien, who plays Deputy Ed Gold, is indeed Australian.
Yeah, I've gone back and forth but definitely my favourite.
The darkness holds only one thing....
"We are fighting timeit's self....
AND I'M GONNA WIN!!!! "
Love that line ❤️
FUN FACT there is very prominently in Doctor Who cannon an alternate universe were Alidade didn't die and the Doctor went completely insane and became dictator of the universe, so all in all what i love about this episode is we see the doctor driven completely mad
Hmm . . .
@@Quinntassuim If they were ever going to have Smith come back in any capacity, even for an episode, I’d want him to play a regeneration of the Time Lord Victorious somehow. We all know he can play evil very well.
grinning through the "The laws of time are mine" antics is heavy dramatic irony, knowing the rug pull on the way. It's shot to look like a high moment, but it's actually his lowest.
Now you know why the Doctor NEEDS to have a companion and how he can sympathize for the Master so much.
My favourite small detail is when he sonics her door open at the end, just to show how he has power over even small things.
Nice summery at the end. Can't wait to see the reaction to the next 2 specials.
So glad you enjoyed this one! I thought it was so well done, and terrifying as well 😬
You know, it only just occurred to me…People have said so many things about The Time Lord Victorious, but there’s one thing I’ve never seen anyone say, and I can’t believe I haven’t seen or even thought of it before:
The Doctor did something here…something so wrong, so horrible, that a Dalek, even a _Dalek,_ wouldn’t cross that line. He broke a rule so huge that _even a Dalek_ bowed to it.
..... WOAH. Yikes 😱
Genuinely one of my favourites! Incredible from start to finish imo. Lindsey Duncan was brilliant.
Concerning the discovery of liquid water detailed in this story, on 28 September 2015, NASA made an announcement that there was proof of liquid water actually flowing on Mars.
We'd better not touch it 😂😂😂
Yes, and this story in all seriousness makes me very antsy about what's up there. Snarks aside, what if that could happen-a sentient virus that can make all pandemics of history combined seem like a sniffle? I mean, it's good that they did have micro-filtering technology that could isolate it, though not good that some idiot on the Earth side of their logistics support sent them the wrong ones. To think that one tiny oversight can trigger catastrophic or even cataclysmic consequences...there are numerous real-world events in history-one rather recently-demonstrating that to be fact. I seriously have a lot of apprehension regarding what we could face on Mars, what with all the real-world talk about getting people up there. But, on the other hand, I don't see that happening by 2059; and even if it did I wouldn't be around to see it.
I love most of this episode but the real strength is in the ending with the Doctor getting a swollen head only to immediatly regret it. Fantastic stuff.
This is legit one of the finest hours of modern British TV. The writing here is so stark, a Doctor knowing he’s nearing the end thinking he can control time and change fixed moments that shaped so much, literally lording it over time victorious. It brings out a darker side to him that David just sells so much. I don’t laugh and cheer when I see the Doctor return to save the people at the base, I’m terrified of his overconfidence and manic state. I’m with Adelaide. Her committing suicide at the end to do her best to “correct” the events is such a brutal moment.
"We're in Pompeii... and it's volcano day!" The look on the Doctor's face when he realises where and when he is; that he's at another fixed point in time and what happens *must* always happen; and that he is face to face with a whole crew of fantastic, brilliant, and totally doomed humans...
Jules: I would love to see him fix this and stop everyone from dying.
Me: Are you sure about that? In the words of The Ninth Doctor back in Father's Day "your wish is my command!... but be careful what you wish for."
You know, I struggle to name my favourite things, because often there are so many great things that I struggle to pick. Eccleston just barely beats Tennant to be my favourite Doctor, and Donna is my favourite companion, but I find it really hard to pick a favourite episode. That said, if you literally forced me to name just one favourite episode in all of Doctor Who, this is the one I'd name. It's just magnificent on every level, from the horror to the humour to the heartbreak. Magnificent.
In a way I wish we could have seen more of The Time Lord Victorious. A Doctor who is more of an anti-hero would be fascinating to behold.
The costuming work in this one was very clever - the prosthetics for the cracked skin concealed hoses (which were also threaded through the actors' sleeves) which produced the effect of them leaking water. Very creepy.
Couple more little things, this comment is getting too long already:
First, that is the same spacesuit from The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit, good eye!
Second, I wanted to highlight the bone chilling music during this episode's final scene. The vocals in that track are singing just one word in Latin. That word is also the name of the soundtrack piece, and that word is Vale.
And what does Vale mean?
Farewell.
Has anyone else noticed this… two episodes about fixed moments in history, both titled "The _somethings_ of _somewhere"_ ("Fires" and "Waters" both being one of the four Greek elements). Coincidence?
@@Scripture-Manwe just need air and earth episodes now and then we can have our classical elements/Avatar the Last Airbender crossover episode lol
One of my favourite episodes this, and a fantastic reaction as usual. People often mention the parallels here between the ‘Timelord Victorious’ and the Master, but I think The Doctor here is capable of much worse, because he can tell himself he’s still the hero. I don’t think the Master is able to lie to himself quite so well as the Doctor can in instances like this. I hope RTD gets to see your reaction videos, because I reckon he’d be pleased as punch. 😁
Tennant has such as amazing range as an actor. From wacky and heroic, to coming right up to the edge of being the villian.
He can play an amazing villain, too. Truly terrifying. Check out the first season of Jessica Jones, or a little-known TV movie from 2005 called Secret Smile. He can be horrifying as a villain.
when he went almost full MASTER mode....
This is such a brilliant episode. Well-written, truly terrifying, and an amazing cast. A while ago I commented that the Doctor's companions often help to make him better. Here he is, still deep in his grief for Donna, but also left to his own devices. The doctor has a very dark side indeed, which isn't apparent in every single incarnation, but ten's "Timelord Victorious" encapsulates all of that. He needs companions, particularly like Donna, to keep this dark potential and ego in check.
0:08 Ah, Jules, it's always a good day when you post.
This episode actually gave me nightmares for so long as a kid....
Another episode that shows just how much of an *amazing* actor David Tennant is. Even the most subtle shifts of facial expression is spot on perfection. This episode is such a masterpiece. I really miss this era of Doctor Who. Nothing can compare to it, not even when RTD came back. This was the height of beauty, from the writing to the acting to the directing, all the way down to the music. Perfection.
Ah, Waters of Mars... The Fires of Pompei, but without companion.
And also the one that has (imo) one of the best lines from 10th Doctor.
...And then you realize they ain't supposed to be "heroic lines" but the lines that represent his hubris, him slipping and falling instead. Becoming less kind, more cruel and cold. Walk with him, or don't get to walk at all.
Tough.
Also, I love that the episode plays the setup on the viewer.
We KNOW he is gonna turn back and go save the people who are left, because that is what the Doctor does. ...No matter that they play the "will he won't he?" -thing a tad bit too long for my taste, we know he'll turn back for the others and we're rooting for him to do it.
...And it's ...Well, you could argue it ain't a wrong choice, but it ain't the right one either.
...Not to mention both Tennant and Duncan are just KILLING it with their performances in this!
One of David Tennant's best episodes IMHO. The Timelord Victorious scene give me chills every time.
I have been waiting with great anticipation for this episode. It's one of my favourites as Tennant was superb and the concept the water was almost as terrifying as the weeping angels. I look forward to your next reaction episodes 😊
I'd honestly forgotten how good this episode was, and this brought it all back. I always think back to the final two specials as "the big ones", which they are. But, wow, this was a stonker of an episode. Hard to believe RTD was so good back then, compared to now :(
The laws of time are MINE!! And THEY WILL OBEY ME!!!😢
My favourite episode of Tenant's era. This is the Doctor at his absolute lowest. With nothing left to lose and nobody to stop him, he becomes an entirely different person.
Hi jules! First time commenting, but just wanted to let you know, I have binged this entire playlist in about a week. I absolutely love how wholesome you are, showing your emotions, it’s honestly such a gasp of fresh air it’s lovely. The editing is incredible. And I love that every after all these years we get to watch someone experience doctor who for the first time. Thank you for being you, for creating this content and being so wholesome. Here is to all the other series of doctor who! Can’t wait to watch with you:) 😊
Oh no way, thank you!! I'm SO glad you have been enjoying the videos! That has made me so happy to hear how much you've liked them and to take the time to let me know is awesome.
Have a lovely weekend 😊💜
This one regularly ranks in top tens for Doctor Who episodes, and it's easy to see why.
And I love that the Mars base was named Bowie Base 1, in reference to David Bowie's song "Life on Mars."
"She rides a tight ship." I mean...Adelaide and Ed clearly have a history of some kind.
Yes, the actor playing Ed is Australian Peter O’Brian, who’s starred in quite a lot of TV since the 80s, including soaps Neighbours and The Young Doctors, and later more gritty series like Underbelly and The Bill.
Adelaide Brooke is played by Lindsay Duncan (CBE), who is a really outstanding actor whose career is way too long and distinguished to outline here.
In fact the whole cast in this episode is superb.
One of the best stories in DW’s 60 year history, no question. Sends chills down my spine every time I see it.
Not the first time this has been done: then name of the base is Bowie Base One, a reference to (no huge shock) David Bowie. Anytime you see a thing involving both Mars and David Bowie, it’s almost certainly a reference to The Spiders From Mars, one of Bowie’s backing bands when he was on stage as Ziggy Stardust.
"the doctor, doctor, fun" is still one of my favorite jokes in the entire show
Yes!!! I loved it!
The Tenth Doctor: Mental Brerakdown arc. I conside this episode the Doctor's lowest point, if only because this moment right here became his own Ultimate Cautionary Tale.
Many call Ten the one who runs, both towards and away frrom everything. And it's absolutely dazzling, it really is, but it was really never meant to *last,* you know? Added with the fact that the loss he suffered was especially tight-packed (Ten's run pretty much coincided with DW's actual season years, which makes this incarnation only a few years old in-universe at this point; during which he lost Rose, went through the Year that Never Was, and his John Smith persona's "death" that also screwed with his head, and then Jenny, then Donna which were all chances at *understanding* the Doctor never got to keep)... yeah, something was bound to give eventually. It's almost like a greek tragedy, seeing it all spiral down.
And to think, this particular incarnation of the Doctor started off ready to be so *happy*.
25:58 he actually did change a lot (2 people that should have died didn't and one died in a different way and location) but the captain saw how dangerous his behavioir was and she rectified his action, proving to him that he is not a god.....as he himself said there, he got too far this time, and as you said, it is probably also connected to him trying to change his own future but also probably to all of the people he couldn't save or that he lost (the last one being Donna)...but yeah another great episode and another great reaction from you.
@julesreacts hey Jules ..yes he's Australian It's Peter O Brien who played Shane Ramsay in neighbours wayyy back at the beginning. Was also a main character in The Flying Doctor...
Great reaction again❤
This episode is easily my favourite of this run of specials, though I agree with you about how scary it gets. In a way it's a culmination of Ten's character development and traits we saw all the way back in his first episode about how far he can go when he's sure he's in the right. It's not surprising that where a lot of characters would be wowed and impressed by him and the TARDIS, the people he saved this time were just freaked out. It's also interesting that like with The Fires of Pompeii it touched on the complications and limitations of time travel. Already by the end of the episode he's starting to have his realisation about going too far and a getting a sense that there is a heavy price to be paid for his hubris, though that's nothing compared to what awaits him.
It was also interesting to have a shout out to the Ice Warriors, given that at this point they still hadn't been seen since the Third Doctor era. They were alluded to in the Christmas Invasion as well when the project director wonders if the aliens were martians and the UNIT officer points out that they aren't as Martians look completely different, as it was a reference to the fact that there was already an established race from Mars. Oh and you're right about the guy being Australian, from Adelaide specifically though maybe he'd been living and working in the UK long enough that his accent wasn't as clear.
I have been waiting so long for this one! It's such a good episode! :D
17:40 This is the acting.....all these monologues...."the rules of time are mine", "we are fighting time itself and I am gonna win" and "time lord victorious"...it is strong, emotinal and dark.
Fan favorite episode. I myself watch it WAY too rarely. My favorite time of Doctor Who comes later but up to this point, series 4 was my ABSOLUTE favorite.
Just how long are we gonna be able to enjoy David Tennant in the role? This was actually the first time where I got LEGIT scared of him. And I DISAGREED with his mentality and his statements. "Timelord Victorious" ... that doesn't sound like "Ten" anymore....
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Donna was right.... He needs people... Someone.....
Remember back in The Sound Of Drums when the Doctor said that he and the Master used to be friends? I couldn't quite believe it at first, that those two could ever have gotten along. But here, when the Doctor does this; breaks every rule just to prove that he can... maybe the two of them aren't so different. This episode, right here, is the line between the Doctor and the Master. (the audio dramas reinforce that. One of them has a very young Master, trying to help people and do good... but he 'helps' in the same way the Doctor does here. And he didn't have anyone to stop him or tell him it was wrong. That was the start of him becoming... what he is now).
The Time Lords still viewed the Doctor as a rogue even if his intentions were good.
@@mayotango1317 You need to give more orders and if you can, try and seem ruder. I think it really helps get your point across.
@@storageheater Yeah, they're all over the comments insulting people. The audio Master is awesome and all, but this guy doesn't need to be quite such a d*ck when pushing his opinion.
Whats the name of the audio drama with the young master?
@@techniquerules _Masterful._ It was made to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Master's first appearance, and has eight different incarnations of the Master in it. It's a lot of fun. Jo Grant is in it.
Bowie Base One, answers the song "Is there Life on Mars" from 1971,....yet, there are not Spiders from Mars 🤫 This was the Halloween Special of 2009. David Tennant, had been portraying Shakespeare's "Hamlet" in a few months of theatre -which is why these 'specials' were done, not a full series.
I get why it couldn't happen, but there is a part of me that would have loved to see Dark Doctor (sorry for usurping your title Mr President :D). Even if it was just for one episode, seeing the Doctor with all the brakes off would have been interesting to say the least.
One thing both Russel and Stephen had in common, it was the ability to take everyday things and situations and make them terrifying. Gas masks, angels, and in this, water. I remember being freaked out by this episode, and I was 37 when it was first shown. :D It was something about the mouth and the blank stare. The water pouring out was incidental, but the expression on the character's faces got to me on a subconscious level in a way few Who antagonists have managed.
And yes, the actor you played Ed Gold, named Peter O'Brien, is from Australia, where he rose to prominence in the TV shows Neighbours and The Flying Doctors (about the Royal Flying Doctor Service, not anything Time Lord related. :D).
Hearing the cloister bell right at the end........
The first time the cloister bell was used in Doctor Who was a Classic Doctor's final story. "...reserved for wild catastrophes and sudden calls to man the battle stations". I only think it was used maybe 3-4 times tops in the entire 26 year run of the Classic era, and thankfully they haven't over-used it here in NuWho either.
Loved your reaction as always ! I've been eagerly awaiting this one all day XD I love that the monsters were kind of a side note on this one and that we didn't need to know who or what they were. The main focus was the story and The Doctors darker side. He really does need that human companion
Thank you, Jack!! I'm so glad you enjoyed 😊
This is definitely one to re-visit more then frequently, because it's just so.. sad. I've watched a lot of this show for so long but no other episode has ever felt so tragic. Between losing companions, and regeneration stories, and episodes like Father's Day, this one is just so dissapointing on so many levels. Not because it's a bad episode, not at all. But it's the disappointment you feel in your hero; the character you're supposed to trust the most. It's such an unforgettably sad, contained story. Seeing it over again and thinking about it in restrospect has just really brought it home again just how amazingly grim this story is.
This is such a powerful episode!!
And The Doctor going "The laws of time are mine. AND THEY WILL OBEY ME!!!" And Time Lord victorious. Gosh!!!
Omg your shock at the first jumps scare was priceless! 🤣There needs to be a supercut of your reactions to the scary parts in this episode because they had me laughing so hard! 🤣🤣🤣
That said, the Doctor was being a very naughty boy indeed! I think what Captain Brookes did at the end was a massive middle finger to him, and he should have just left them when he first thought of doing so. Roll on next week though for another exciting adventure!
The Time Lord Victorious is much scarier than all the other aliens combined XD I wish we had an entire season with him! It'd be so much fun!
I agree with what you said, what Donna pointed out, that he needs someone to stop him. That moment when he's talking and he has no one to answer or disagree with him is so sad.
Also, I really love the music in this one. So good.
I have been waiting for you to get to this episode! And I was not disappointed. Great job as always
Thank you, Brady!!
Ahh yes, the Time Lord Victorious
Fun, multimedia project that came out of that.
@@nathandts3401 and it was a little messy
@@Venemofthe888 Well the pandemic sort of messed up the end of up it, but I enjoyed the stuff I read/listened to.
Each doctor has their own traits that are affected by the previous doctor. And this episode signifies Tennant realizing he's gone too far.
Hi Jules! I've finally caught up! Right on time for one of my favourite episodes ever!! This one is peak David Tennant for me, in general it's up there with Broadchurch series 1 finale as one of his best performances. Hope you enjoyed it :)
Yay! I hope YOU enjoyed 😊
I've been freaked out by some monsters before on Doctor Who, but this one is legitimate nightmare fuel. Not only is it genuinely terrifying for that, but also the Doctor's sort of turn. It's scary, unnerving how unhinged the Doctor becomes WITHOUT a companion. Like he NEEDS it to keep him balanced because if he doesn't... this. Gosh, this one is good. Can't wait for the next special.
This is what Doctor Who about sweetheart. Scary and pure horror. This is why this episode is one of my favourite.😂
That scene with the fire and seeing The Doctor have flashbacks to when he was talking about the time lords was incredible. Fantastic acting that was from David Tennant.
The Doctor mess up big time here and broke his own rules but I understand why he did it because he was sick of losing good people and not able to save them and don’t forget he still scar after what happened in the series 4 finale so it no wonder why he did what he did.
That scene back on earth was a strange feeling. Something didn’t feel right. Yeah we won but this time I didn’t feel happy about it like the other times we won.
This is the peak of David Tennent's run as the Doctor. It shows his compassion, but it also shows his flaws and his hubris. I get chills every time I watch this special.
The Timelord Victorious is actually explored in a run of books, comics, and audio dramas that further explore his fall to the dark side.
I recall seeing this episode on PBS once but it has been quite
awhile since I've seen it last, have a beautiful rest of the week
awesome friend Juliette.🙋🐈⬛🇦🇺
The music. Murray Gold beautifully makes it sad and triumphant and manic and revealing.
A mini camera on wheels is just perfect way to describe Gadget lol. Water Zombies kinda freaked me out when this episode came out and while it didnt land for everyone it freaked me out when i was a kid. The Flood were sealed away by a different Marsian species who come from classic (this is mentioned in the episode).
Gemma Chan is also in this episode and you might recognize her from the films Eternals, Captain Marvel, Crazy Rich Asians and the tv series Human amongst others.
This episode shows a very dark side of the doctor and i do wish it was explored a little more in the TV Show since its such a intriguing concept. They did do something with it in expanded media which is very complicated to even explain lol. Everyone is freaked out on what the doctor did with two of the characters actually scared and Captain Brook is actually angry that the whole of history could have been changed because of the Doctor's ego saving ''little people''. She stood up to him in defiance and killed herself to prove that point
Also in the behind the scenes show the Flood were suppose to look even more scarier and got to the point where they had filmed some scenes with the scarier look before it having to be reshot
P. S. this was the kind of Hammer Horror you'll get watching many of the fourth doctors stories, they did some good spooky episodes during that run, don't let anyone tell you they aren't worth it because of the special effects.
"We're not just fighting the flood. We're fighting time itself - AND I'M GONNA WIN!" It was in that moment The Doctor snapped - remember what Davros said "The anger, the fire, the rage of a timelord."
Also loved the geuine scream on the first meeting of The Flood xD
Another great one. Super Creepy. Nice Silent Running vibe.
He does like being right. Laughs out loud when she agrees they should have bikes.
Doctor is Out of Control.
He needs a companion.
And he's running.
Running from fate.
among my all-time favourite episodes, it really pushes the doctor's character while at the same time having a phenomenally memorable setting, monster and cast of characters. it's amazing, and the first who episode in HD, which is a nice bonus
Actually, it was the previous episode which was the first HD one - Planet of the Dead.
@@Scripture-Man oh yeah oopsie :p
Davids Doctor starts so bright and hopeful and becomes so damaged
😭😭😭
The Doctor: "NOT BEATEN. NOT BEATEN."
The Master: "NEVER DYING. NEVER DYING."
This was the only episode my dad wouldn't let me watch when I was younger, truly terrifying stuff. Water is patient. Water always wins.
Filmed at the National Botanic Garden of Wales - in the Great Glasshouse
Good day, Jules! 💜
"Oh no. I'm expecting horror. Don't show his face!" - and reduced to a few weaker, and ever higher, tiny squeaks.😱
A great episode. In my opinion possibly the scariest Doctor Who of the new Who series. The make-up is freaky, and the water, constantly dribbling, drooling, flowing, is just intense., and as always the music helps this along.
Many good lines in this one - I like the deadly serious observation - "Water always wins."
It is obvious that the Doctor doesn't always choose his destination, sometimes the TARDIS seems to plop him into things, for unknown reasons, but often where he can fix things. What I always think about in this one is, what was the reason here?
As you correctly point out, this has been a season of the Doctor, at times, full of himself. Is this the TARDIS serving a lesson in humility, or providing a moment for him to see himself going too far, see his out of control hubris - without the Doctor how would all the little people have a chance - showing him it might be why Ood Sigma thinks his song must end soon.🤔
This was indeed a Special episode. One of my top views in the whole of Doctor Who. Thank you, remaining interested, and for doing such a wonderful job of editing, once again. Excellent work crafting a Fantastic reaction!🥰
Have a better day, Jules!😉💜😊 An extra cup of coffee, a bit of chocolate - you'll be "right as rain" - uh, well, let's leave water out of this - you'll be quickly better! Thanks again, and see you in your next.🤗
The thing is at ANY point the doctor could’ve just taken the crew to another time/planet to live out their lives and history would still be intact. Yes they would miss home/family but they would’ve had each other and knowing they saved the world.
The thing is the doctor doesn’t think like us he’s not human plus his recent trauma. 10 in particular is very proud. If he can’t save everyone perfectly exactly the way he wants he throws a tantrum/ blames himself and nobody should get saved. Just like pompeii, That’s why he needs someone like Donna to ground him and point out there’s another way.
Forget the Vashta Narada, the Weaping Angels, the Cybermen or Daleks. This episode had the most terrifying monster of all.
The Doctor, when he decides the rules no longer apply to him.
This episode hits different. Even now, chills.
Been waiting for this one. Horror, isolation, and the downfall of a good man. Brilliant story-telling. This has been coming for a long time. He has been beaten down so much and lost so many people, that his rage was bound to take over. This was just the last straw.
This episode goes deep. Firstly going into the whole fixed point in time stuff where major points in time cannot be changed no matter what you do and second is showing the doctors darker side but explored even further here with the timelord victorious stuff
Here we go with another one of modern Who's greatest episodes: the day the Doctor went too far. Well, one of them.
It truly is an incredible episode which does some fantastic character work with the Doctor. Despite his charm and carefree attitude, the Tenth Doctor's dark side has always lurked just below the surface. I loved watching your expression change from excitement at the end, to shock and uncertainty as the Doctor declared himself Time Lord Victorious. It's such a hallowing ending.
Now for some trivia:
The Doctor refences the Ice Warriors, a classic enemy native to Mars. They're a reptilian race decked out in cybernetic armour with a code of honour, who first appeared in the Second Doctor era, before becoming good guys in the Third Doctor era. You'll meet them eventually.
Interestingly, despite having a recurring enemy from Mars, as well as a story called 'The Pyramids of Mars', this is the first time the show has actually had a story set on Mars.
Now for the biggie. In 2020 there was actually a multimedia event called 'Time Lord Victorious', which followed on from the end of this episode. It primarily featured the Eighth, Ninth and Tenth Doctors and was spread across all of Doctor Who's non-TV media, including novels, audio dramas, comic books and the Doctor Who Magazine comic strip. There was also a live escape room event that connected to the story, an animated series on the Doctor Who UA-cam channel and even a t-shirt that contributed to the story.
The core story centred around the idea that Doctor's actions here fractured time, and the Tenth Doctor used that fracture to go back to the Dark Times, which he's mentioned before. There, he met a race who were responsible with designating the lifespan for every species in the universe, and he basically continued on his power trip and decided he'd stop death from existing. Meanwhile, the other stories in the range follow different characters dealing with the universe going screwy because of this, leading to the Eighth and Ninth Doctors going back to the source and confronting their Tenth self. Oh yeah and there's a psychotic Ood hitman in a dinner suit named Brian who keeps popping up.
It's a bit confusing and the individual stories are hit or miss, but I think the main stories are all great and the central premise is fascinating. It was an interesting experiment and I think it worked for the most part.
Anyway Jules, I'm soooo looking forward to the next few weeks! It's going to be a real thrill ride.
Ashley 👋 it's such a wonderful episode and I'm so glad you agree! David Tennant is just such a perfect Doctor. He has all the characteristics that I feel embody the Doctor to a T. That dark side of his, though.... You'd not want to get in a fight with him, that's for sure 🤣
The emotional journey of this episode takes you so high and then rips you so low
This episode clearly shows why The Master and The Doctor are friends. Despite all their differences they are very similar.
I LOVED this epsiode. One of my favorites of the entire series. ❤
Loved the brief reference to the Ice Warriors, a race from Classic Who from Mars.
It’s a good episode and Tennant’s performance in his “Time Lord Victorious” mode (IMO that attitude feels like it has traces of The Master and a classic Who character “The Valeyard”) is good. I did always think Doctor could have avoided the worst parts of this moment if instead of taking the survivors home and risking the future he took them to a remote corner in the distant future to live out their lives in peace. History can continue as it was meant to and the survivors could live without possibly interfering (although I guess it could interfere with history at a later point but still)
Interestingly the design of the infected in this one was a point of some debate because even the writers thought they'd gone too far and made something truly horrific. I know they were talking about dialing it back, I don't know if they actually did (hopefully not).
The reference to ancient martians in this is a pretty hefty bit of classic series continuity; The Ice Warriors were a fairly iconic alien race back then. In the original version of the script it was going to be more explicit that they had encountered whatever this thing was before, and were terrified enough that they left behind a warning to never disturb the ice.
"I'm expecting horrors!" You're not wrong Jules!
It was TOO SCARY 😭
THE best of the season "5" specials. Man I've been waiting to see this reaction since you started this adventure into Dr. Who. The Time Lord Victorious book series is so worth you reading J-Bird you will love it. Such a good episode probably THE best of his entire run in my view.
Top 5 episodes of the whole show. Absolutely love this one and it’s been one of my favourites since I was 9. The emotion, horror and action is absolutely perfect. Not to mention that ending!!!
Awesome video as always dude! been waiting for this one! and i can't wait for the next one! 💜
The ending to this ep always gives me chills
Awesome episode and awesome reaction. I absolutely love watching these, I love how deeply you care about this show and character. All your comments are superb!
Thank you!! I am so glad you enjoyed 💜
one of the most terrifying episodes of the whole show. and not just because the monsters were so scary but because it shows the doctor without someone to temper him.
Omg yess!!! Been waiting for your reaction for this :)