Fascinating - Stanley No.50 Combination Plane
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The one of main things that keeps me coming back to your videos is your astounding appreciation of hand tools and the way you treat them and how you really love to do things the old fashion way. Thank you for your effort and time you put into these amazing videos. God bless
What a kind and generous gift from Richard. This beautiful tool will be preserved and USED.
just yesterday got a rabbet plane, combination plane and a bullnose plane from my Grandfather that had belonged to his Father, they are still in there boxes with all the bits and have never been used, so are in perfect condition. Really looking forward to using them. Thanks for another great video!
Amazing. I'm so fascinated by these different variations of planes. I recently bought a Record #44, made in England. It is quite similar to this design, although without the cross grain cutting capability. Just used it this weekend to make a smaller version of the tool caddy that you built!
My dad had just given me a complete box No 50, I'm so pleased. He also teased me with his brand new box No4.
The little screw at the back is to nudge the rails parallel as just using the rods, you can skew it a bit. The longer depth stop looking thing is to give you a ledge to ride on when using the beading cutters.
The #50 is a nice little plane. It is not as complicated as the #45 and the monstrosity of a #55 but can handle a nice range of work. The plane itself will come up occasionally but the real special thing is to get one that is complete. Consider it extremely nice that you have the newer one that has the wooden handle. The older ones had the handle cast into it. If I am not mistaken, you can use the same nickers off a #78 but you have to file off two of the points.
I just found one of these with the Stanley tags still on it!! Thanks for the video!!
Wow I have never seen anything like this. Looks in good shape and very useful ... what smart folks that made those.
Great video . It always amazes me to see these old tools and to think about the time and effort that went into creating it.
Hi Mr W thank you for all of the wonderful content you keep providing us with, keep up the good work :D
Yes Sheffield England still has a very good and active manufacturing industry for wood working tools. Joseph Marples, Thomas Flyn make saws, but also own Clifton Planes, Robert Sorby chisels, and the Asley Ilses are now based in Lincolnshire,
Oh wow. I've been looking for one of these. They never seem to be complete. You're a lucky man.
Very generous. . . a TRUE gift is something that you'd like to keep for yourself but you give it anyway for the best reasons. It seems, aside from some minor surface rust that there isn't much to "restore", all the more reason to keep it in tip top condition. I must confess to a little jealousy but the tool couldn't be in better hands. You deserve it. Now, please, show us what it can do!
Just picked one up today, nearly new in its orignal box with all its bits and bobs. Started researching about the tool and found this video.
Toronto, it's among others cities in Canada, a great place to get this jewels , spring and summer garage sales are amazing, I got exactly the same N50 complete and never used, i bought it as a curiosity, but finally learn how to use it . Its one of the jewels I use when I want to impress some other cabinet makers !!!! jajaja
Lucky you. Look forward to seeing this in action in upcoming videos
I live near Sheffield and your right the steel made there is the best in the world and a long time ago Britain was called the workshop of the work because of how manny things were made over here
Sharpen the flats with a normal stone and the concaves by file. Cool tool, Richard is the man.
I also have been fortunate to have one. It is so well preserved as this one. i love her very much.
I live in the north of England and yes Sheffield do still have places that produce high quality knives and cutlery however its on a much smaller scale. It used to be the primary cutlery producer not just for England but for the world as well. It still produces a lot of specialist tools as well so worth a look. Also love the videos :)
confusedbuthappy I live in Rotherham work in Sheffield and actually sheffield produces more Steel than it ever has. It employs a fraction of the people it used to and Clifton and record still make tools here. What makes me laugh when our American cousins take about preferring American Made tools while holding a Sheffield made Stanley it’s an almost Daily occurrence
i was lucky enough to find a stanley 55 with all the original cutters in the original wooden box - totally by luck happened to pass an antique store that had always been closed when i passed by before - they specialized in furniture, so i did my standard 'whip around' the store to see if they had tools or anything that wasn't 'dust collectors'... he had one box that had come in with some stuff and had planned on taking it to auction the very next day... i picked up the whole thing for 150 - mint condition... maybe we have more of them in canada!
Beautiful tool! You are one blessed young man, Cody!
I was surveying a building due to be demolished and happened across a more modern stanley plough plane including cutters, I was so stoked, its so nice to use. I have been quite fortunate to come across a few other nice tools in the same way such as a carpenters and machine shop due for demolition. Just think they could of been lost to time!
You are blessed to have such giving subscribers.
The frames that support the cutter are called the skates, and you named the guide correctly. The guide sometimes has two holes to attach a rosewood piece of wood to lubricate the guide along the material being cut. The longer depth gauge is used on the left skate, and the short depth guide can be used on either skate.
This plane is pristine!
Looks like somebody's been playing with great stuff! I too have yellow gap sealing foam residue smeared on a finger.
Cool, i believe there was one on ebay last week also
To sharpen the bead cutters, wrap 400gr wet/dry sandpaper around a round dowel the same diameter as the cutter. Pop up to 600gr if you want the spooky edge. lol. BEAUTIFUL TOOL!
I thought that would be the best way to go about sharpening it too.
my dad was born before the great depression. they made wheel bearings out of ironwood knots for their farm wagons and made their own charcoal instead of wasting precious $$ on coal. I learned that in order to carry a pocket knife, I had to learn to keep it sharp. i found a flat stone by the Mississippi river that I carry to this day next to my Damascus steel folding knife. Making due is an art form; as is sharpening blades.
lol. I hear ya. Guess I could crow pretty loud if it were only younglings who seemed dazed but a 65 year old woman once asked me what the little red light on her dash reading "oil" meant. 65 years! I said it was a reminder to the mechanic who installed her new motor to put oil in it. She thanked me and DROVE away. (sigh)
Cody, yes, you have a rare Stanley #50 plow plane. The #50 had optional boxes of cutters, so you could purchase an additional 6 boxes of cutters for a premium. The #50 was an expensive plane that was normally purchased by a master carpenter, where the #45 was sold as a handymans do it all plane. Again, you plane is considerably rarer than the #45, but they look very much alike so many people get confused as to which plane is which. There were also a set of shorter rods: you have the longer.
Some models of both plough planes had a slicer on the outer right skate to create thin strips from veneer for intarsia and inlay. Be careful not to drop your plane on a hard surface, you can fracture coasted parts. Thank you for sharing your great gift!
Can't be too rare. During my time studying Carpentry in college, we had around 30 of these exact planes. We call then rebate planes here in the UK.
+Nathan Burton They are rare in the states. This is the first one I've ever seen in person,
jusb1066 Why? Did I say something that offended you? I'm merely pointing out a fact.
Wranglerstar Well, If I come across one for sale I'll see what I can do to get it to you.
jusb1066 My apologies.
+Nathan Burton We call this a plough or groove plane in England, its used for running grooves/dados
My Dad has a Stanley Combination Plane. I believe it is probably the #45. They are a great little tool. I was always fascinated with the versatility of it.
yeah, in England, we get quite a lot of stainless cutlery from Sheffield.
Awesome tool, and here in the states they are rare to find. In a complete form that is.If you do find a nice one, they're $350-$750. Ive been searching myself, with no luck. Happy for you Wranglerstar!
Look on ebay and scroll down to international sellers, there are a few complete sets on ebay uk going for around £40/$60 (very nice examples), plus postage it would be much cheaper than buying in the US.
Tungsten carbide tip masonry drills are great cheap things for drilling holes in hacksaw blades, so hard they mill their way through the blade just fine, but hole size accuracy suffers unless you carefully use a fine hard sharpening stone and micrometer to trim the head diameter downwards to the final size you want (and very hard to keep it evenly balanced too). That's a lot of work if you require accuracy but for a plain "good enough" hole just chuck up a TCT bit and push it on through.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. You get all the best toys!
this is here just in time for you to make beaded cabinet doors. Yes Sheffeild still makes high quality tools, under the Clifton brand of planes. That is such a cool plane, I wish you the best using it. Geoff
I've looked in the Lee Valley catalogue for the modern day equivalent of your Stanley No.50. The new version here is called a Veritas Small Plow Plane and let me tell you it is not a cheap item to buy now a days. Google, Lee Valley and when you get there enter small plow plan in their search engine. In fact the best idea is to ask for a catalogue, (fine wood working tools), I believe they are free, the catalogue I mean.
Wing nut and thumb screws are the right terms for the fasteners on this plane. Congratulations on another cool tool Cody. Can't wait to see its edge on some of your Douglas Fir.
I say this in the most respectful ways possible: I feel like Cody goes a little "Mr. Rogers" when unboxing a cherished item. :)
And I love it! :)
"Wranglerstar Channel, or On the Merits of Wingnut Handsomeness." :)
Love it. Thanks for the video!
what a great gift.
Lucky man! Great video!
I'm from Sheffield England. Sheffield is still well known for steel works people called Sheffield the steel city
I have some old wood block planes with the shapes cut into the metal blade. The only metal parts are the actual blade. the rest is wood blocks and wedges
"oh my goodness look at that" every unboxing :) im telling you this quote would look good on a shirt :) the next wranglerstar shirt ;)
+tony bologna or " look at this " :) "look at that "
I can't wait to see some tongue and groove flooring for the new kitchen! ;)
Thirty years later...
I do not use a nicker with either of my #45 or #50 due to their scarcity, but instead use a separate scoring knife to create clean shoulders on a dado or rabbit. A #50 with the original box is even rarer! You lucky bugger!
Very interesting. Hear of these, but never seen one.
300 weatherby magnum. Quite a rifle. My grandfather hunted deer in Southern California with one for decades and passed it along to me. I harvested my first elk with it, something he was never able to do...quite a commemorative experience for me. What is the story of yours?
Sheffield still makes quite a lot of steel though mostly cutlery now. Scunthorpe and Redcar are probably the largest steel manufacturers we still have but with Redcar being shut down by the government it's not looking good for British industry. Just like the 1980s all over again.
Love the video, Cody!
the part at 11:14 is most likely the foot/sole of the plane so just like a normal one your cutter/iron will be level and flat with the project, dont know about the smaller one thought
This year I bought a one hundred and eighty five year old anvil that was made in Sheffield England by Mouse-hole Forge. Sheffield had the water and woods and iron-ore needed to produce lots of iron back in the day.
Great idea hacksaw blade spur, for doing dados
Very nice tool and equally done vid.
Cody, Roy Underhill from the Woodwrights Shop has a great video all about combination planes.
video.pbs.org/video/2365021501/
That was amazing! Oh my goodness what good tools there were back then. Now it's all about what power planer edge can I get, or does home despot have wainscoting on sale. Flat out best.
Such a nice tool Cody. A very nice gift. I've been looking at those on eBay for a while. Cant wait till WE can figure out of this little jewel works .Perhaps makes some bead board panels for the kitchen remodel???
I have a 50 that I was given (new) as a gift in the early 70's but mine has two holes in the fence so you can attach a wooden face to protect the face of the work piece from the metal fence.
Nice plane!
Yes Sheffield is still renound for it’s steel
cool plane they are quite common in these parts but hardly ever complete I have been collecting bits and pieces
for a few years now and still not got a complete one yet
Love the old tools. They really don't make them like that anymore.
Just got the rabbit no 78 in and order no 71 router, that my next one to get. Nice
great :) the speech at the end is back :)
I'd love to have one of those
I have 3 of those in the same box completely complete in my garage
+parker jasmer nice
you should try to make a knife!!!its in great condition as well
daaaang that tool looks older than the 'designed to fail' product shift! it found a good home, its like an adoption agency for lost, neglected, and abused tools xD
the engeneers of this tool must have been a genius! Its amazing!
Maybe add a bit of bead work to the kindling box?
A plane like that costs around 4000kr(550$) in Sweden!
I quess it is a stanley no. 50 combination plane?... Maybe...?
Oh yeah, the grooving cutter is a perfect match for the 1/4" plow cutter. There are many additional sets of blades out there as I stated previously, but it is extremely rare to own them all. The purchase price for all sets of cutters is approximate $1000 American. As different versions of the #45 and #50 came out, the cutters sometimes were not backwards compatible: think of Microsoft! There are still plenty of single cutters and blank cutters that are available for both plough planes.
cool stuff
Thank you for the video!
I found this video after my mom found me a Record no 050. How cool is my mom
Hi there.
Thanks for the video. I also recently acquired this plane and was hoping you or Richard could advise me on how to get my hands on the Instructions Manual (yes I'm one of those who reads manuals).
I've set up the plane according to your video but i have two screws extra and wandering where they screw into?
(and no, i don't have any loose screws in my head).
Really enjoy your passionate videos.
Hi...Just got gifted a No.50, exactly like yours, also have a Record 45
I wouldn't trade my Sheffield carving set for anything, beautiful, built to last.
I have a 45 with all the blades, my dad got it.
I love hand planes
Sheffield still produce a lot of high quality tools, cutlery, blades etc (Swann Morton Scalpels)
neat tool.
Now im jealous... I know its not good to be jealous, but i am. That is a nice thing!
Sheffield still has a few toolmakers and cutlers with prestigious names like Sorby and Wostenholm, but it's not the magnificent industrial hub it used to be. The quality of some the tools produced isn't as good these days, in my opinion. If you ever visit I'd recommend the Kelham Island Museum, it gives a good idea of how much went on there before cheap products from overseas put all but a handful of old companies out of business.
hi i recently bought one of these and i would love to use it, i'm not sure how to use and set the depth stop there are two of them, have u used it? do you have a video of it? or can u upload one please? thank you
Keep up the very welll done and interesting videos though! and Thank You for them.
I have a 45 combination plane. I never realized why Stanley scraped the 45 until watchin this video. It looks a lot easier to set up.
Everytime you do one of these I have to run out and buy one!
I think they are still making Sheffield steel but it's not like the old stuff when you look for stuff for carpentry in the UK the older the better
You have such cool subscribers! That is really nice.
+Fredrick Laverdiere we have the BEST subscribers. It is really cool.
I cant belive he swore and let it get through editing.
Huh?
+carbonfusion I have never heard cody swear in any of his many wonderful videos
+MrFord9700 I guess I missed it somehow?
These planes are not that rare! I have a No. 45 and a No. 46, very similar. And if I have them, they were not expensive and not rare. I use them once in a while, they are very functional and useful.
Hello. Thank you for you very illustrating videos. I have a question about the amazing Stanley #50, of which I received one myself as a present. Like new and complete. While trying out, I do not manage to ues the shaving deflector properly. I wondered if you could help me and perhaps many other with such a plane. I noticed that in combination with the tongue cutter the delector does not fit, while it is needed most in that combination. So I hope that you can do a video on that subject.
Thanks in advance.
Hola, estuvo bueno el vídeo, no sabia como armar mi stanley # 50, que era de mi abuelo, recién lo encontré, ahora lo valoro mucho más, gracias
You should put some wanes coating in the new kitchen.
"There! All put together! Now what are these two extra pieces doing in the box..." :D Only joking. This looks like an incredible tool. I saw one at an auction once and was prepared to bid for it, but it started at $150 and jumped to $300 in just a few bids. Even if that was still a good price, it was beyond my budget. I was really bummed though. I'll be keeping my eyes open for another one.
Yes sheffield still has good steel sadly it's a dying trade hear, wish thing was how it use to be. But tools like that are quite common round sheffield but then I suppose they would be