Depends on style as well. I use a senior 70 flex cut (ends up at about 80 flex). If you want quick release softer sticks are gonna help put more power with less effort. If you want more shot power in general (and you have the strength to actually put that power into the stick) higher flex tends to store more potential energy when you load it. So if you're a really heavy guy (and have proper shooting technique) you could rock a 90-100 flex.
Back in the day of wood sticks, the more flexible the shaft often meant sacrificing torsional rigidity as well. This meant that the blade would twist backward more under load and you would lose a significant amount of accuracy. They also didn't publish a flex rating then so you would just have to lean on a stick to feel how much flex you were getting. Flex ratings started appearing on aluminum shafts. I always stuck with a 100 flex in order to maintain accuracy. Plus, I had a lot more power back at that stage of my game. After getting back into hockey after being out for a decade I instinctively went with a 100 flex one piece. I quickly found out that I didn't have the power I once had and wasn't able to load it up the way I liked. I dropped down to 85 flex and it helped a lot. I was recently thinking about how much better sticks are made now and how they still maintain that torsional rigidity even at lower flex ratings. So I decided to try a 75 flex and I'm really liking it. I'm getting better pop while still keeping the same accuracy.
Any chance you used to use Easton? I don't think they calculated it the same to everybody else. I've always found Easton 100 felt the same as Bauer 85.
Yeah this is crazy to see for me. I too left the game for about 10yrs after graduating highschool, and am just getting back into it now with my old 100flex stick. Every guy back then was using a 100 like it was a dick swinging contest. Now it's refreshing to see guys actually thinking things through and considering what that means, and realizing they would be better off with the lower flex sticks. I need to get a 65 or 75.
One thing to note for all the amateurs is that your stick becomes more "whippy" as you use it. Initially a stick has some pop to it but over time it starts to fade and a 65 flex can start to become unbearably flexible. Pros have unlimited supply so they can afford to cycle through them. I wouldnt recommend 75 or 65 to anybody whos around or over 200 pounds.
You’re completely right I’m 250 and was using a 130 flex true pro stock stick and after about 2 years the flex had weakened to the point it’s snapped on a wrist shot a lot of people think that 130 was crazy but I stg if I used anything under 100 it would be snapped within 2 months
These shot speed tests have been so cool! Would love to see how different price point sticks in the same line (E.G CCM FT475, FT5, and FT5 pro) compare .
I would be curious to see meraki. They are based out of Shakopee, mn. I was referred to them by a coworker whose teenage daughter goes to Breakaway Academy. My son has been using a youth hat trick 20 flex p92 blade. He is 65 lbs and easily has the hardest shot and puck control of anyone in his group 2nd grade 3rd year mites. An I would say as hard as anyone in the grade above him. I saw a big difference when I got him this stick, but his previous one was a 15$ sherwood youth stick. Yhis one was $80, and they have youth $80 junior $90 intermediate $110 and senior$120. I would be very curious to see how a 110 or 120 dollar stick would compare to some of the name brand $300+ sticks. I would assume there would be a slight faloff but last year I found a $40 piscifun serpent fishing rod I prefer to My $140 st croix, sometimes more expensive isn't any better. I plan to pick up a new stick next time I'm in Shakopee. I just help coach and play pickup games with my son and his friends so I'm definitely just a recreational player not looking to break the bank and want to replace my 25 year old wooden sticks but I think these may actually perform close to a stick almost 3 times the price. Anyways thanks for your videos as a dad who didn't play organized hockey trying to become more informed and a better coach i find your videos useful and entertaining. .
@@HockeyTutorialOfficial Take the top and bottom models of Bauer, Warrior, and CCM. You could even reach out to the companies and see if they'll give you a tour(virtual) of their stick testing department. Take the human error part out of the equation.
Been preaching this for years to my teammates and any kids I end up coaching. All through college, me being 6ft, 65 with an extension has been my go-to recipe just because of the effortless release and consistency.
I guess I’m old school. I always used 102 flex with the p88 curve. I want to work for it. It made me push myself harder. To keep up with the guys with the 65 flex and the toe curves.
I used to use a 95 flex and then went way down to a 65 flex. 65 is nice for quick release on the snap shots but the biggest issue is on receiving passes. At 5'9 and 175lbs I found you need to have extremely soft hands and I found it more difficult to really get a good feel for the puck when dekeing or toe drags because you need such a loose grip on the damn thing. You really have to absorb the passes quite dramatically. Also if you're over 170lbs your stick will break easier especially if you take a ton of slapshots. While I don't agree with the weight determines your flex thing sometimes there is a limit to how low you can truly go. As the guy at my local hockey shop said to a teenager using a 40 flex, "it's cool to flex your stick until it breaks ". I now use 75 flex and I feel like for anyone between 170-190lbs it's a good balance.
I have used senior Bauer Nexus 2N (actual Justin Danforth's stick when he played for Lukko Rauma) with 87 flex but cut down(by Justin), so above 90 flex for sure, I just switched to Nexus Geo 65 flex INT because it is exactly the height as the old stick but without cutting., I was shocked how good the stick feels and shoots. My wrist shots are now so much more powerful and accurate. For beer league it is perfect option.
I’m 5’8” and 180 lbs, for reference. I use a 90 flex and my shot is harder than it was with a lower flex. It does require more effort than a lower flex, but I can shoot without sacrificing form, quickness of release, and accuracy. The higher flex also helps with winning faceoffs since I’m a center. My advice to newer players is to shoot with the highest flex that you can shoot PROPERLY with. Start with a low flex and learn how to shoot, then creep up until you hit that sweet spot.
Weight matters + strength matters, but even in nhl flex has come down all around. Lower flex is the best way to go. Beer leaguers with 90+ flex are just silly unless you are over 200 pounds and keep snapping your twig
@@v91maximus91v I agree, especially if you’re a beginner. I’m an experienced player and have played at a very high level so I know what’s best for me. However, I always recommend a lower flex if someone feels like their shot has room for improvement.
All depends on wrist strength and weight. Personally I’m 230 and hate that I can’t find 100 flex in stores anymore and have to custom order them. I play D so 87 and lower are brutal for giving a nice crisp pass
It's all about feel. I'm 6' 245lbs and the 95 flexes I use are more akin to smaller guys using 75 or less. I cut a couple inches off for better puck handling too, adding stiffness. The pros and manufacturers have it right, if you start at half your weight and tweak from there, you'll find something that works for you. I've used 110 and 100 flex sticks and they worked fine, but the 95s work best for that balance of speed and power of the release as well as puck handling feel. Plus, as a centre, a stiffer stick will beat out a softer one on those annoying faceoff stalemates. In short, for those that come here to figure out the absolute best flex for hockey sticks, don't just go low because Tommy said it was best. Every body is different, find what works best for you
Sorry. The pros and manufacturers who say that are wrong. They only say it, because that advice has just become the traditional advice that's given. However "half your weight" is not a correct measure or starting point for determining what flex stick you should use. In both our cases (same height and weight) ... for one, they don't even make a 122 flex stick that's commercially available. For another, you ended up settling on a 95 (38% if our weight), where I play with a 70 flex (28% of our weight). It's less about body weight, and more about body strength, position (centers should absolutely use a stiffer flex), and style you play. I play wing, in close to the net taking wristers where I benefit from a lower flex. When I play center, I do switch to a stiffer flex stick. Also, cutting the stick doesn't make it stiffer. This is just another misleading oversimplification that has been hoisted upon us. Cutting a stick down just changes your ability to impart leverage on it. But, a cut down 95 flex stick is still has a 95 flex shaft.
@@mhicaoidh1 Just to clarify, yes, cutting the stick down DOES make it stiffer. Why? Because of how stick flex is measured. Bauer even shows you what the flex is at various points to cut it down. Remember, stick flex is measured by suspending the stick at the 2 ends, and then the amount of weight it takes to generate 1" of deflection in the middle of the shaft. So by shortening the shaft, you have to add more weight to get that same 1". So yes, it does make it stiffer. But you're right that strength has a lot to do with it. That's the funny thing. I watched my sons peewee team. Most of the kids on that team were using 40 and even 50 flex sticks. My son is the oldest (not the tallest) but was still using a 30 flex, and had the hardest (and most accurate) shot on his team. Now he's using a 40 flex as he grew too tall by the end of the season that the 30 was too short but I digress.
@@Milehighsnake98 unfortunately you're incorrect. Stick flex is measured when the shaft is 60" long. So, technically, a stick that isn't 60" is outside of the standard for flex measurement. Bauer puts those numbers on there to represent the "perceived flex" if you cut it down. The material of the stick does not change. The material of the stick does not get stiffer when you cut it down. Consider that for a moment. What changes is your ability to impart force (leverage) on the stick. So, it "feels" stiffer to you ... but it isn't. You just are able to as efficiently impart force on it. Additionally, for example, when you buy a stick with a 63" shaft, that says it is 80 flex (stamped right on the shaft). That 80 flex refers to a measurement taken at the 60" length ... not the 63" length. So, there are two reasons why the flex doesn't change: 1) The physical properties of the stick material are not altered by it being cut down. The material will still flex at the same rate because that is what it is designed to do. 2) Flex can only be measured, and have any validity for comparison's sake, when measured at 60". This is the standard the industry settled on. So, all stick flex will be measured with a 60" shaft. So, if you take my 87 flex Bauer stick that is 60" and cut and 2" off of it. According to the "mark" it will then be a 96 flex stick. It's just not. It might "feel" stiffer (for the reasons stated about) but the material that makes up that stick is still 87 flex material.
From my experience and testing myself I’ve found a few things. Flex should be based of play style and comfort of course. But positions come into play too. As a defenseman typically a bit of a stiffer flex can be better for a little extra strength in battles and taking slap shots from the point. Centers will benefit more taking for face offs with a stiffer stick again for the added strength in the stick off the draw. Wingers it carts based on play style more than position. As in I’m a right shot player who plays left wing for my one timer so I use an 87 flex since more of my shots r slap shots. If u take more snap shots or wrist shots a lower flex may benefit ur game. Again tho most of this is mostly comfort. A teammate I played with who was a 6’2” 210lbs defenseman used a 65 because it was more comfortable and felt better for him.
I'm 6'00 and i use 65 flex on an Bauer Nexus SYNC, way more simple to shoot whith. I just bought a intermediate stick with stick extension, works perfect for me. I would like to see same low flex on senior stick one day
Intermediate sticks will eventually be too flimsy. I used them for a few season to learn how to shoot (as an adult), which was great, but they suck for taking hard passes or when your mechanics are sound. I’m also hella strong, so I’d whip it way too much.
Weight for sure isn't an accurate indcator of exactly what flex to use, but its probably the best the manufacturers can do. There is no set measurement people would know for overall strength or how a person shoots the puck. I find your shot style, or how far you apart you place your hands for various shots does impact the flex selection that works best for you.
I woke at a hockey store, and I usually say start with half your body weight then go down one flex point from that. So if they're 130lbs I usually try to get a 55 flex in their hands
It’s the most accurate you can do for guidelines when it’s all based on personal preference and other variables. It’s really annoying as a newer player though
MacInnes, Chara, Weber all used over 105. Personally I like 95-100 for D, better point shots and strong accurate passes and I’ll drop down to an 85/87 when playing forward as my passes are generally shorter and it gives good pop on the wrist/snap.
When I was younger, anything under 85 was an intermediate stick… now I see 65 senior sticks… until a year ago I was still using the OG CCM V110. When shopping for a new stick I was amazed at how low the flexes are.
The thing people needs to understand, the energy you put into a stick is like a spring. E=0.5*k*x^2, k being the spring constant (how high is your flex rating) and x being the distance your blade is from its original position (deflection) when you flex it. So the takeaway is that raising your flex will linearly raise the energy you can put into the stick, while raising the deflection will raise the energy squared, but raising the flex will make it harder to flex the stick (deflection will lower for the same applied force) and vice versa. So in other words, if you half your spring constant and that makes you flex the stick twice as far for the same applied force, you will actually store twice as much energy in the stick (0.5*(1/2)*(2)^2=0.5*(1/2)*4=0.5*2) which is then transferred to the puck, for which E=0.5*m*v^2, where m is the mass of the puck (which does not change) and v the velocity. So it translate directly into speed the puck can gain. So lower flex rating (or lower spring constant) will always be better until it feels like a spaghetti.
I used to use 85 and 95’s cut down several inches, they were recommended based off my weight and height. Now I run 65 flex intermediates cut down. Hands and wrists don’t hurt anywhere near as much, especially as I’m getting older. People still give me weird looks being 94kg when I’m in season shape but knock on wood I’ve not had one break on the shot. Most of my shots are wrist and back hand with the occasional snap shot.
I bought a 95 flex stick (I thought higher was better lol) when I started playing hockey again as an adult and wow I thought I forgot how to shoot at all. I can't wait to try a 65 flex!
I’m 5’7” and weigh ~170lbs. I use a 65 flex Bauer (but it’s cut down to where it’s an inch below my chin when on skates), and a 55 flex for CCM. It’s all about utilizing the flex. That “flex should be half your body weight” is complete BS
The one thing that sucks about using intermediate sticks is I hate the skinnier shaft, but even 70 flex Bauer/CCM sticks are wayyy too tall for a short king 👑 If I cut down a 70 flex Bauer to where I like them height-wise, it becomes almost 90 flex FML
I’m 5’9” and 175 lbs and I really prefer a 65 flex. I feel like I get the most power with that. I play roller though, so the puck is lighter. If I were using an ice puck, I’d probably prefer a 75
I’m 5”11 and about 190lbs I tried a 65 and 75 flex sticks found my shot was good but stick handling felt awful way too much bend in the shaft…felt like cooked spaghetti…95 flex gave me the stability while stick handling and don’t have an issue with wrist shots slap shots or loading up a snap shot. I like 95 flex it’s all personal preference.
I still prefer 95 because the stick handling is more responsive and I really really dig into the ground on my slap shots so maybe I've just learned my shot on a firmer stick.
It all depends on your mechanics for stick flex. Im over 200lbs and use a 65 flex stick. I cut it in between my bottom lip and my nose (just a little bit shorter than retail Bauer height on a p28 lie 5 blade) and it offers me the best release, power and accuracy. With stiffer sticks it takes too much effort to get perfect shots off where as the whippier flex allows me to not be perfect but still shoot hard and accurate. It also allows me to "communicate" with the stick allowing me to tell in my form how much I'm letting the stick do the work in generating power.
Hey great vid, imo optimal flex relies on a player's frame, strength and skill, just a friendly suggestion you should add a catch and release shot as well as a 1 timer, those kinds of shots simulate game condition and will give feedback regarding the stick's flex
I hear people talk about their weight, their height, their strength, but NEVER their ape index. It’s just as important. Also, just saying, it’s great to see players across the pond. Hearing the accent talk about hockey is something else! Love it. Hearing the same North American players can get so boring - especially in this sport where originality is lacking.
I’ve always used a 95-100 flex, but the local Hockey shops don’t really carry that flex anymore. They load up on 85 and lower. So I got an 85, had to add an extension to it, so it’s probably more like 80 now. The first few wristers felt awful. So much flex with little effort that it felt like my shot was slower. But I got used to it, I had to, I bought it and wasn’t going to waste $ lol. Just ordered the True Catalyst 7X with 95 flex and it’s the longer version so I won’t have to add an extension. I’ve used True in the past and I feel that they are stronger and longer lasting, (I play defense) especially in a higher flex.
Yeah, I started skating out as an adult (played goalie my whole life), I'm around 200lbs, got a 95 flex and couldn't use it worth a damn. Went all the way down to 65 flex intermediate, now I'm back up to 75 flex. I do feel like I shoot harder with the 75 flex, but only after I worked on technique with the 65 flex.
Thanks for doing this. Flex is so underestimated and I bet we can draw much more from lie and curve. Just thinking about the wear on the bottom of my blade, this is an interesting indicator for the long-term, if you wanna go technical on it. Btw, Looks like the radar gun does not really capture the flat shots.
I used the Easton carbon 100 flex when they first came on the scene, the lower flexes really weren't for me, snapper was my go to, no backwind, roll the puck along the blade heel to toe and definitely not a heel curve. Heel curves I found to be inaccurate but a huge amount of power when shooting from the heel, I also found they took too much away from the rest of the puck skills. Try shooting 50+ biscuits before every training session for a while, you'll get used to it and your accuracy will soar.
Would be helpful to know how (relatively) strong Tommy is ... for example, how much does he bench? When it comes to flex, it's not the stick that matters ... it's the shooter. Based on the results, my guess is (not taking the piss) that he doesn't lift much. A strong shooter will use a higher flex to generate even more power. Strong shooters using lower flexes, from my experience, have trouble controlling the shot (often shooting over the net). Relatively weaker players will use, and benefit from, lower flex sticks. The general advice that ties flex to body weight is total rubbish. Most beer leaguers who don't workout with weights should probably use sticks in the 65 - 77 range. But, just doing a glance at the sticks used on my team, they mostly have sticks in the 80s with some in the 90s.
@@idkau yep. I am currently playing with a 77, but have ordered some custom sticks that will be 70 flex. This is partly due to the aftermath of a torn rotator cuff.
I def don't bench much at all...but at 6'2 160 lbs using a 75 flex cut down a bit became out of control...as you said slapshots were flying way too high...an 85 is the right flex for me....then again I got used to a 100 flex not knowing what the number meant from a while back lol.
@@KP-dd2ci haha yeah you probably got used to "muscling up" on that 100 flex. I used to play with a 110 flex Easton Synergy before I really understood how it worked too.
This is a cool test, but load of those shots are in motion with a bit more body weight in the stick. I am not a small player so I move to a 95 flex as when I load it for wrist and snap shots it really whips out. Standing still I agree they do feel like lumber.
I'd also be curious to know how the flex affects stick handling and accuracy. I tried this myself. I went from a 102 flex to 95 to 87 to 75. Maybe I'll try this with the next stick I get.
Considering most NHL players use 75-85, most beer league players are likely 55-65 flex depending on height and weight. Might sound low but most people under 6ft and under 180lbs aren’t training 4 days a week to have the same shot power as a pro. Bigger or mostly doing slappers, maybe 70-75 but 60-65 is likely best for most people
idk i just dont have control with flexy sticks. im 6'4 200lbs but i only recently went from 105 to 95. i think height has a lost to do with the amout of torque you can generate with each stick. i.e weber used 115 (6'4 220 pounds) or Ovi 6'4 240 lbs with 100 flex. Then you got Johnny Gaudreau 5'9 165lbs using a 55 flex. however new age players seem to be getting used to these whippy flexes because the game is faster and you dont have as much time to load the shot anymore
I'm 192 cm / 6'3 ft and few years ago slapshot was with 100 flex 142 kmh / 88,2 mph. Now I use 73 flex and slapshots are bad, but wrists and snaps are powerfull as hell!
I went from a 115 to an 85(my stick broke inbetween a double header and it was the only option) playing with an 85 feels like it's a limp noodle in my hand with no snap at all on the shots. I have a 80-90mph slapper normally and with the 85 flex i get like 70-80 and the shots go wild. Side note i am 6'3" 240lbs
Anyone have a good recommendation of a 65 flex stick I could pick up for cheap? I play once a week or so. Back at it after a 10yr hiatus. I used to play roller and have now been trying out some ice and loving it. But the puck moves so fast it's like it's always trying to get away from me while I shoot! I think having a lower flex will help alot. Thanks for any recommendations....I don't know the hockey gear game at all anymore
Left hand more foooorward. No pull on upper hand so... If you dont use the stick and use just hands the flex really doesn't matter. And great shooters drops the knee. Check Laine and Joakim Kemell. They load the stick with dropping the knee and then the flex matters
The question I have is, how much do you weigh? The flex of a stick and your weight and size have a lot to do with each other. If I used a 65 flex stick it would feel like slapping a bowling ball with a glade of grass.
Hi long time subscriber to your page like your content. I have a request for a topic if possble please; Currently i use the w88 curve from warrior because it has the lowest lie on paper , and it is a nice all around curve. Are you able to make a video of the different low lie sticks and curves available from the dif brands? I read online the lie listing on paper is bot comparible brand to brand so the only real way to know is the put them flat blade beside each other. Tough part is i (and i think other) dont have access to all the sticks to check lol. Thank you 👊
So a video on the different lies across the major brands ? Like comparing them to each other ? Or just looking at lie in general and how it affects performance ?
Yes the dif lies across dif brands/ curves. For example, ive read that w88 4 lie is the same lie as bauers p88 6 lie… so it is not always apples to Apples across brands/sticks/curves So if i was wanting a comparable stick to try in a lie 4 w88 Wat sticks in ccm or bauer hav the same lie for example thanks!
It all depends on how good you can flex the stick I’m 6’1 and like 160 and I use a 70 flex and I can bend the stick to the ground the only bad part about a lower flex is once you wear it out your shot won’t be consistent
Im a forward and like short sticks so I usually buy an intermediate 65 so there is no cutting. if I buy a senior 65 I would have to cut it and then the 65 becomes a 75 flex. What's the difference between an Intermediate and a Senior besides the size?
Put your back into it, big bio! 😉 lower flex is proven better for lighter/weaker players, while higher better for higher impact (press) shots in a heavier/stronger player. Can’t be all arms on your clappers! Great vid!
Ive been using 95 ever for the last handful of years and i cannot go back. Im 6’2”, and have been between 175 and 200lbs since ive been using 95 flex sticks. If i use anything that isnt 95, the stick over flexes and i miss the net. Not to mention anything under 95 flex is a 60” or 62” stick, which is too short, which forces me to use a 95 flex stick for the 64” height.
Having a flex suited to you is more important than how high or low it is. There was a trend of higher is cooler for a long time. Don't just go the other way. Pick a flex that matches you for real, not what you think you need
Interesting. When I was 16, I used a 120 flex stick. I had a slapshot of 86mph. Consistently on the radar gun. So if I used a 75 or lower flex, I would have been at 100?!
Been 100/110 my whole life, huge for faceoffs but more exhausting to play for sure. Using an 85 now and it's a noodle by comparison but just so easy to get after it. That said, have no confidence in stick battles
I rocked a 100 flex senior NXG for a while, decided to buy an 87 flex nexus and it felt too flexible and although my wrist shot felt a litle better, i didnt like how flexible it was, even when i passed the puck my stick would flex, soo i bought a 105 flex true catalyst x9 and tbh feels 100% better, for referene im 6'1 180 lbs, its all a preference game
Excellent video. Thank you for confirming my own observations. As a beginner, it's tough to know I'm doing something right or wrong in comparison to others as, many times, they don't even know why they use the flex that they do. Would've been interesting to see you guys go even lower in flex with intermediate and junior sticks to see at what point there are diminishing returns.
If he had better shooting technique it would probably be massively different; shooting with puck far away, his top hand is at his stomach, not leaning on the stick(because it's so far out) I paused on the 75 flex one and the stick barely flexed
Before i use to slap shot alote use to 85 -95 but the wrist shot is so better in the game today ... never score more than today 1-2 goals a game i'm a defenseman old school normaly 3 goals a years loll but now almost each saturday it's so easy to score loll
All depends on the person. I played with a 75 as a teen, then a 95 as an adult. Then someone put a 110 in my hands at an ODR a couple years ago and I'll never do less again. Well, unless I lose weight but I don't see that happening at my age. My figure is pretty much defined till I'm an old man. I'm 6ft @ 250lbs. Even a 110 can sometimes feel like a wet noodle to a guy my size. I'm a brick shit house on hockey skates, I'd break a 65 by passing you the puck.
He clearly needs no work on his slap shots. There's a reason why top defensemen use higher flex. Because it just adds more power. The fact that he gets faster shots shots with lower flex sticks show's that something is wrong with his technique.
When picking your flex, try 1/3 of your weight. I weight between 180 to 190, and I’m 5’6”. I use the same formula when picking my son’s flex for his stick. I find that you can’t go wrong with 1/3 of your weight.
Depends on style as well. I use a senior 70 flex cut (ends up at about 80 flex). If you want quick release softer sticks are gonna help put more power with less effort. If you want more shot power in general (and you have the strength to actually put that power into the stick) higher flex tends to store more potential energy when you load it. So if you're a really heavy guy (and have proper shooting technique) you could rock a 90-100 flex.
I went from an 85flex to a CCM 65flex. What a difference. I’m 5’10 195lbs. I get a lot more on my snap shots.
Back in the day of wood sticks, the more flexible the shaft often meant sacrificing torsional rigidity as well. This meant that the blade would twist backward more under load and you would lose a significant amount of accuracy. They also didn't publish a flex rating then so you would just have to lean on a stick to feel how much flex you were getting. Flex ratings started appearing on aluminum shafts. I always stuck with a 100 flex in order to maintain accuracy. Plus, I had a lot more power back at that stage of my game. After getting back into hockey after being out for a decade I instinctively went with a 100 flex one piece. I quickly found out that I didn't have the power I once had and wasn't able to load it up the way I liked. I dropped down to 85 flex and it helped a lot. I was recently thinking about how much better sticks are made now and how they still maintain that torsional rigidity even at lower flex ratings. So I decided to try a 75 flex and I'm really liking it. I'm getting better pop while still keeping the same accuracy.
Any chance you used to use Easton? I don't think they calculated it the same to everybody else. I've always found Easton 100 felt the same as Bauer 85.
Yeah this is crazy to see for me. I too left the game for about 10yrs after graduating highschool, and am just getting back into it now with my old 100flex stick. Every guy back then was using a 100 like it was a dick swinging contest. Now it's refreshing to see guys actually thinking things through and considering what that means, and realizing they would be better off with the lower flex sticks. I need to get a 65 or 75.
One thing to note for all the amateurs is that your stick becomes more "whippy" as you use it. Initially a stick has some pop to it but over time it starts to fade and a 65 flex can start to become unbearably flexible. Pros have unlimited supply so they can afford to cycle through them. I wouldnt recommend 75 or 65 to anybody whos around or over 200 pounds.
I'm 193 lbs and a 77 or 75 is my sweet spot..I do have a stick with more flex and it is unbearably flexy and I can not use it
@@jessebremner5209same 195 78-80 flex I cut down my ccm a few inches it’s fine and works for me
You’re completely right I’m 250 and was using a 130 flex true pro stock stick and after about 2 years the flex had weakened to the point it’s snapped on a wrist shot a lot of people think that 130 was crazy but I stg if I used anything under 100 it would be snapped within 2 months
This guy gets it 👍🏻
I just purchased one and I’m around 150 5’5 do u guys think a 65 flex was a good choice
These shot speed tests have been so cool!
Would love to see how different price point sticks in the same line (E.G CCM FT475, FT5, and FT5 pro) compare .
Reading our minds! That’s the next video. Just trying to decide on the brand to use
I would be curious to see meraki. They are based out of Shakopee, mn. I was referred to them by a coworker whose teenage daughter goes to Breakaway Academy. My son has been using a youth hat trick 20 flex p92 blade. He is 65 lbs and easily has the hardest shot and puck control of anyone in his group 2nd grade 3rd year mites. An I would say as hard as anyone in the grade above him. I saw a big difference when I got him this stick, but his previous one was a 15$ sherwood youth stick. Yhis one was $80, and they have youth $80 junior $90 intermediate $110 and senior$120. I would be very curious to see how a 110 or 120 dollar stick would compare to some of the name brand $300+ sticks. I would assume there would be a slight faloff but last year I found a $40 piscifun serpent fishing rod I prefer to My $140 st croix, sometimes more expensive isn't any better. I plan to pick up a new stick next time I'm in Shakopee. I just help coach and play pickup games with my son and his friends so I'm definitely just a recreational player not looking to break the bank and want to replace my 25 year old wooden sticks but I think these may actually perform close to a stick almost 3 times the price. Anyways thanks for your videos as a dad who didn't play organized hockey trying to become more informed and a better coach i find your videos useful and entertaining. .
@@HockeyTutorialOfficial Take the top and bottom models of Bauer, Warrior, and CCM. You could even reach out to the companies and see if they'll give you a tour(virtual) of their stick testing department. Take the human error part out of the equation.
Been preaching this for years to my teammates and any kids I end up coaching. All through college, me being 6ft, 65 with an extension has been my go-to recipe just because of the effortless release and consistency.
I'm 6ft3 and was about to buy a 95 flex just because of the length of the stick. I will extend my current 85 flex CCM Ribcor instead.
I agree, I used a 65 flex at 6’ in u18 and just started using one again yesterday after three years and the release feels great
I guess I’m old school. I always used 102 flex with the p88 curve. I want to work for it. It made me push myself harder. To keep up with the guys with the 65 flex and the toe curves.
I used to use a 95 flex and then went way down to a 65 flex. 65 is nice for quick release on the snap shots but the biggest issue is on receiving passes. At 5'9 and 175lbs I found you need to have extremely soft hands and I found it more difficult to really get a good feel for the puck when dekeing or toe drags because you need such a loose grip on the damn thing. You really have to absorb the passes quite dramatically. Also if you're over 170lbs your stick will break easier especially if you take a ton of slapshots. While I don't agree with the weight determines your flex thing sometimes there is a limit to how low you can truly go. As the guy at my local hockey shop said to a teenager using a 40 flex, "it's cool to flex your stick until it breaks ". I now use 75 flex and I feel like for anyone between 170-190lbs it's a good balance.
Alright I'm like 145, so I gotta go down to 65 like when I was in middle school haha. This is going to be crazy
I have used senior Bauer Nexus 2N (actual Justin Danforth's stick when he played for Lukko Rauma) with 87 flex but cut down(by Justin), so above 90 flex for sure, I just switched to Nexus Geo 65 flex INT because it is exactly the height as the old stick but without cutting., I was shocked how good the stick feels and shoots. My wrist shots are now so much more powerful and accurate. For beer league it is perfect option.
I’m 5’8” and 180 lbs, for reference.
I use a 90 flex and my shot is harder than it was with a lower flex. It does require more effort than a lower flex, but I can shoot without sacrificing form, quickness of release, and accuracy. The higher flex also helps with winning faceoffs since I’m a center. My advice to newer players is to shoot with the highest flex that you can shoot PROPERLY with. Start with a low flex and learn how to shoot, then creep up until you hit that sweet spot.
Weight matters + strength matters, but even in nhl flex has come down all around. Lower flex is the best way to go. Beer leaguers with 90+ flex are just silly unless you are over 200 pounds and keep snapping your twig
@@v91maximus91v I agree, especially if you’re a beginner. I’m an experienced player and have played at a very high level so I know what’s best for me. However, I always recommend a lower flex if someone feels like their shot has room for improvement.
All depends on wrist strength and weight. Personally I’m 230 and hate that I can’t find 100 flex in stores anymore and have to custom order them. I play D so 87 and lower are brutal for giving a nice crisp pass
It's all about feel. I'm 6' 245lbs and the 95 flexes I use are more akin to smaller guys using 75 or less. I cut a couple inches off for better puck handling too, adding stiffness. The pros and manufacturers have it right, if you start at half your weight and tweak from there, you'll find something that works for you. I've used 110 and 100 flex sticks and they worked fine, but the 95s work best for that balance of speed and power of the release as well as puck handling feel. Plus, as a centre, a stiffer stick will beat out a softer one on those annoying faceoff stalemates. In short, for those that come here to figure out the absolute best flex for hockey sticks, don't just go low because Tommy said it was best. Every body is different, find what works best for you
Sorry. The pros and manufacturers who say that are wrong. They only say it, because that advice has just become the traditional advice that's given. However "half your weight" is not a correct measure or starting point for determining what flex stick you should use.
In both our cases (same height and weight) ... for one, they don't even make a 122 flex stick that's commercially available. For another, you ended up settling on a 95 (38% if our weight), where I play with a 70 flex (28% of our weight).
It's less about body weight, and more about body strength, position (centers should absolutely use a stiffer flex), and style you play.
I play wing, in close to the net taking wristers where I benefit from a lower flex. When I play center, I do switch to a stiffer flex stick.
Also, cutting the stick doesn't make it stiffer. This is just another misleading oversimplification that has been hoisted upon us. Cutting a stick down just changes your ability to impart leverage on it. But, a cut down 95 flex stick is still has a 95 flex shaft.
@@mhicaoidh1 Just to clarify, yes, cutting the stick down DOES make it stiffer. Why? Because of how stick flex is measured. Bauer even shows you what the flex is at various points to cut it down. Remember, stick flex is measured by suspending the stick at the 2 ends, and then the amount of weight it takes to generate 1" of deflection in the middle of the shaft. So by shortening the shaft, you have to add more weight to get that same 1". So yes, it does make it stiffer.
But you're right that strength has a lot to do with it. That's the funny thing. I watched my sons peewee team. Most of the kids on that team were using 40 and even 50 flex sticks. My son is the oldest (not the tallest) but was still using a 30 flex, and had the hardest (and most accurate) shot on his team. Now he's using a 40 flex as he grew too tall by the end of the season that the 30 was too short but I digress.
@@Milehighsnake98 unfortunately you're incorrect. Stick flex is measured when the shaft is 60" long. So, technically, a stick that isn't 60" is outside of the standard for flex measurement.
Bauer puts those numbers on there to represent the "perceived flex" if you cut it down. The material of the stick does not change. The material of the stick does not get stiffer when you cut it down. Consider that for a moment.
What changes is your ability to impart force (leverage) on the stick. So, it "feels" stiffer to you ... but it isn't. You just are able to as efficiently impart force on it.
Additionally, for example, when you buy a stick with a 63" shaft, that says it is 80 flex (stamped right on the shaft). That 80 flex refers to a measurement taken at the 60" length ... not the 63" length.
So, there are two reasons why the flex doesn't change:
1) The physical properties of the stick material are not altered by it being cut down. The material will still flex at the same rate because that is what it is designed to do.
2) Flex can only be measured, and have any validity for comparison's sake, when measured at 60". This is the standard the industry settled on. So, all stick flex will be measured with a 60" shaft.
So, if you take my 87 flex Bauer stick that is 60" and cut and 2" off of it. According to the "mark" it will then be a 96 flex stick. It's just not. It might "feel" stiffer (for the reasons stated about) but the material that makes up that stick is still 87 flex material.
From my experience and testing myself I’ve found a few things. Flex should be based of play style and comfort of course. But positions come into play too. As a defenseman typically a bit of a stiffer flex can be better for a little extra strength in battles and taking slap shots from the point. Centers will benefit more taking for face offs with a stiffer stick again for the added strength in the stick off the draw. Wingers it carts based on play style more than position. As in I’m a right shot player who plays left wing for my one timer so I use an 87 flex since more of my shots r slap shots. If u take more snap shots or wrist shots a lower flex may benefit ur game. Again tho most of this is mostly comfort. A teammate I played with who was a 6’2” 210lbs defenseman used a 65 because it was more comfortable and felt better for him.
I'm 6'00 and i use 65 flex on an Bauer Nexus SYNC, way more simple to shoot whith. I just bought a intermediate stick with stick extension, works perfect for me. I would like to see same low flex on senior stick one day
Same.
Intermediate sticks will eventually be too flimsy. I used them for a few season to learn how to shoot (as an adult), which was great, but they suck for taking hard passes or when your mechanics are sound. I’m also hella strong, so I’d whip it way too much.
These are real questions that need to be answered! Too bad the stick manufacturers still just stick to the "half your body weight for a flex" advice.
Weight for sure isn't an accurate indcator of exactly what flex to use, but its probably the best the manufacturers can do. There is no set measurement people would know for overall strength or how a person shoots the puck. I find your shot style, or how far you apart you place your hands for various shots does impact the flex selection that works best for you.
I'm 165lbs 5'11 and came down from 85 to 77 and now 62 I shoot way better now.
Bauer recommends 85 for me.
I woke at a hockey store, and I usually say start with half your body weight then go down one flex point from that. So if they're 130lbs I usually try to get a 55 flex in their hands
It’s the most accurate you can do for guidelines when it’s all based on personal preference and other variables. It’s really annoying as a newer player though
@@AlanenJ I'm 5'10 I use longer intermediate sticks from bauer and ccm for years....by the time u cut down a senior it's too stiff
MacInnes, Chara, Weber all used over 105.
Personally I like 95-100 for D, better point shots and strong accurate passes and I’ll drop down to an 85/87 when playing forward as my passes are generally shorter and it gives good pop on the wrist/snap.
When I was younger, anything under 85 was an intermediate stick… now I see 65 senior sticks… until a year ago I was still using the OG CCM V110. When shopping for a new stick I was amazed at how low the flexes are.
The thing people needs to understand, the energy you put into a stick is like a spring. E=0.5*k*x^2, k being the spring constant (how high is your flex rating) and x being the distance your blade is from its original position (deflection) when you flex it. So the takeaway is that raising your flex will linearly raise the energy you can put into the stick, while raising the deflection will raise the energy squared, but raising the flex will make it harder to flex the stick (deflection will lower for the same applied force) and vice versa.
So in other words, if you half your spring constant and that makes you flex the stick twice as far for the same applied force, you will actually store twice as much energy in the stick (0.5*(1/2)*(2)^2=0.5*(1/2)*4=0.5*2) which is then transferred to the puck, for which E=0.5*m*v^2, where m is the mass of the puck (which does not change) and v the velocity. So it translate directly into speed the puck can gain.
So lower flex rating (or lower spring constant) will always be better until it feels like a spaghetti.
I used to use 85 and 95’s cut down several inches, they were recommended based off my weight and height.
Now I run 65 flex intermediates cut down.
Hands and wrists don’t hurt anywhere near as much, especially as I’m getting older.
People still give me weird looks being 94kg when I’m in season shape but knock on wood I’ve not had one break on the shot.
Most of my shots are wrist and back hand with the occasional snap shot.
Please do a video about whether the tape job on your stick matters
I bought a 95 flex stick (I thought higher was better lol) when I started playing hockey again as an adult and wow I thought I forgot how to shoot at all. I can't wait to try a 65 flex!
Glad we could help.
I’m 5’7” and weigh ~170lbs.
I use a 65 flex Bauer (but it’s cut down to where it’s an inch below my chin when on skates), and a 55 flex for CCM.
It’s all about utilizing the flex. That “flex should be half your body weight” is complete BS
The one thing that sucks about using intermediate sticks is I hate the skinnier shaft, but even 70 flex Bauer/CCM sticks are wayyy too tall for a short king 👑
If I cut down a 70 flex Bauer to where I like them height-wise, it becomes almost 90 flex FML
This is my struggle at 5'9". I don't cut the intermediate but I don't like the thin shaft either. I've switched to 70 flex but only cut 1 inch
this was my struggle too, but I got used to INT stick and the wrist shots are amazing now.
@@Vanilla_Rice there is no difference between intermediate shafts and senior shafts
Inch below your chin at 5’7”? You must have cut off 5+ inches, adding 20+ flex stiffness 😮
As you mentioned to change the radar gun, I really recommend the bushnell radar gun it has worked really well for me and others also.
Good video, We’re those snap shots? I’m not sure I could tell the difference between the wrist and the snap style?
I’m 5’9” and 175 lbs and I really prefer a 65 flex. I feel like I get the most power with that. I play roller though, so the puck is lighter. If I were using an ice puck, I’d probably prefer a 75
I’m 5”11 and about 190lbs I tried a 65 and 75 flex sticks found my shot was good but stick handling felt awful way too much bend in the shaft…felt like cooked spaghetti…95 flex gave me the stability while stick handling and don’t have an issue with wrist shots slap shots or loading up a snap shot.
I like 95 flex it’s all personal preference.
I still prefer 95 because the stick handling is more responsive and I really really dig into the ground on my slap shots so maybe I've just learned my shot on a firmer stick.
It all depends on your mechanics for stick flex. Im over 200lbs and use a 65 flex stick. I cut it in between my bottom lip and my nose (just a little bit shorter than retail Bauer height on a p28 lie 5 blade) and it offers me the best release, power and accuracy. With stiffer sticks it takes too much effort to get perfect shots off where as the whippier flex allows me to not be perfect but still shoot hard and accurate. It also allows me to "communicate" with the stick allowing me to tell in my form how much I'm letting the stick do the work in generating power.
Hey great vid, imo optimal flex relies on a player's frame, strength and skill, just a friendly suggestion you should add a catch and release shot as well as a 1 timer, those kinds of shots simulate game condition and will give feedback regarding the stick's flex
Is this filmed in Cambridge ice arena? I’m from the u14 team that plays there!
I was just about to grab a 65. Great timing guys. Can’t wait. Hey what’s up with Tommy’s True’s? He off the CCM custom train?
I hear people talk about their weight, their height, their strength, but NEVER their ape index. It’s just as important.
Also, just saying, it’s great to see players across the pond. Hearing the accent talk about hockey is something else! Love it. Hearing the same North American players can get so boring - especially in this sport where originality is lacking.
I’ve always used a 95-100 flex, but the local Hockey shops don’t really carry that flex anymore. They load up on 85 and lower. So I got an 85, had to add an extension to it, so it’s probably more like 80 now. The first few wristers felt awful. So much flex with little effort that it felt like my shot was slower. But I got used to it, I had to, I bought it and wasn’t going to waste $ lol. Just ordered the True Catalyst 7X with 95 flex and it’s the longer version so I won’t have to add an extension. I’ve used True in the past and I feel that they are stronger and longer lasting, (I play defense) especially in a higher flex.
If you go on a pro resale site or something like sidelineswap you'll have no problem finding those higher flex sticks
Yeah, I started skating out as an adult (played goalie my whole life), I'm around 200lbs, got a 95 flex and couldn't use it worth a damn. Went all the way down to 65 flex intermediate, now I'm back up to 75 flex. I do feel like I shoot harder with the 75 flex, but only after I worked on technique with the 65 flex.
Thanks for doing this. Flex is so underestimated and I bet we can draw much more from lie and curve. Just thinking about the wear on the bottom of my blade, this is an interesting indicator for the long-term, if you wanna go technical on it.
Btw, Looks like the radar gun does not really capture the flat shots.
I used the Easton carbon 100 flex when they first came on the scene, the lower flexes really weren't for me, snapper was my go to, no backwind, roll the puck along the blade heel to toe and definitely not a heel curve. Heel curves I found to be inaccurate but a huge amount of power when shooting from the heel, I also found they took too much away from the rest of the puck skills. Try shooting 50+ biscuits before every training session for a while, you'll get used to it and your accuracy will soar.
Would be helpful to know how (relatively) strong Tommy is ... for example, how much does he bench? When it comes to flex, it's not the stick that matters ... it's the shooter. Based on the results, my guess is (not taking the piss) that he doesn't lift much.
A strong shooter will use a higher flex to generate even more power. Strong shooters using lower flexes, from my experience, have trouble controlling the shot (often shooting over the net). Relatively weaker players will use, and benefit from, lower flex sticks.
The general advice that ties flex to body weight is total rubbish. Most beer leaguers who don't workout with weights should probably use sticks in the 65 - 77 range. But, just doing a glance at the sticks used on my team, they mostly have sticks in the 80s with some in the 90s.
Yep. I don't know how my team mates shoot with the 85+ except for the really big guys. I use 65-75 myself
@@idkau yep. I am currently playing with a 77, but have ordered some custom sticks that will be 70 flex. This is partly due to the aftermath of a torn rotator cuff.
I def don't bench much at all...but at 6'2 160 lbs using a 75 flex cut down a bit became out of control...as you said slapshots were flying way too high...an 85 is the right flex for me....then again I got used to a 100 flex not knowing what the number meant from a while back lol.
@@KP-dd2ci haha yeah you probably got used to "muscling up" on that 100 flex. I used to play with a 110 flex Easton Synergy before I really understood how it worked too.
And to think I’m over here using a 105 flex stick because I found the 95 too whippy and I couldn’t get a hard shot off
This is a cool test, but load of those shots are in motion with a bit more body weight in the stick. I am not a small player so I move to a 95 flex as when I load it for wrist and snap shots it really whips out. Standing still I agree they do feel like lumber.
Thanks for this video, glad to see how much flex does make a difference. Ironically watched this after I grabbed a 85 flex to try from a 100
I'd also be curious to know how the flex affects stick handling and accuracy. I tried this myself. I went from a 102 flex to 95 to 87 to 75. Maybe I'll try this with the next stick I get.
Considering most NHL players use 75-85, most beer league players are likely 55-65 flex depending on height and weight. Might sound low but most people under 6ft and under 180lbs aren’t training 4 days a week to have the same shot power as a pro. Bigger or mostly doing slappers, maybe 70-75 but 60-65 is likely best for most people
Tommy is only small though, maybe 5ft 7”. So the low flex would always be better.
idk i just dont have control with flexy sticks. im 6'4 200lbs but i only recently went from 105 to 95. i think height has a lost to do with the amout of torque you can generate with each stick. i.e weber used 115 (6'4 220 pounds) or Ovi 6'4 240 lbs with 100 flex. Then you got Johnny Gaudreau 5'9 165lbs using a 55 flex. however new age players seem to be getting used to these whippy flexes because the game is faster and you dont have as much time to load the shot anymore
Go try Hoapa sticks, they were some of the only ones I could find that did a low flex in adult sizes.
I’m 6’ 165 and I just got a 65 flex with a 3” extension I’m hoping it’s not way too whippy
I'm 192 cm / 6'3 ft and few years ago slapshot was with 100 flex 142 kmh / 88,2 mph. Now I use 73 flex and slapshots are bad, but wrists and snaps are powerfull as hell!
I went from a 115 to an 85(my stick broke inbetween a double header and it was the only option) playing with an 85 feels like it's a limp noodle in my hand with no snap at all on the shots. I have a 80-90mph slapper normally and with the 85 flex i get like 70-80 and the shots go wild. Side note i am 6'3" 240lbs
i use a 55 flex and i'm 145 pounds but i like having the lower flex because it helps my release and accuarcy i find
I would like to see using a junior stick. I am short enough to use one but the blades are too short. I bet they shoot well for shorter players though.
6ft 175-85 I originally used 102flex kane 88 curves. I use 80 up to 95 now big up in velocity but the aim could used a bit of fine tuning lol
Anyone have a good recommendation of a 65 flex stick I could pick up for cheap? I play once a week or so. Back at it after a 10yr hiatus. I used to play roller and have now been trying out some ice and loving it. But the puck moves so fast it's like it's always trying to get away from me while I shoot! I think having a lower flex will help alot. Thanks for any recommendations....I don't know the hockey gear game at all anymore
Left hand more foooorward. No pull on upper hand so... If you dont use the stick and use just hands the flex really doesn't matter. And great shooters drops the knee. Check Laine and Joakim Kemell. They load the stick with dropping the knee and then the flex matters
can you get senior sticks in 65 or are the intermediate?
The question I have is, how much do you weigh? The flex of a stick and your weight and size have a lot to do with each other. If I used a 65 flex stick it would feel like slapping a bowling ball with a glade of grass.
Where did you get the puck shot radar?
Sorry for suggesting this, i didnt realize that it would be painful!
But i am really enjoyong this series you guys have put together! They have been very informative. Definately my fav hockey channel!
Don't worry, Tommy can handle it ! Thanks for the suggestion.
I found that 85-90 flex was the best for my slapshots, but a 75 was better for getting a quick release on wrist and snap shots.
Hi long time subscriber to your page like your content. I have a request for a topic if possble please; Currently i use the w88 curve from warrior because it has the lowest lie on paper , and it is a nice all around curve. Are you able to make a video of the different low lie sticks and curves available from the dif brands? I read online the lie listing on paper is bot comparible brand to brand so the only real way to know is the put them flat blade beside each other. Tough part is i (and i think other) dont have access to all the sticks to check lol. Thank you 👊
So a video on the different lies across the major brands ? Like comparing them to each other ? Or just looking at lie in general and how it affects performance ?
Yes the dif lies across dif brands/ curves. For example, ive read that w88 4 lie is the same lie as bauers p88 6 lie… so it is not always apples to Apples across brands/sticks/curves So if i was wanting a comparable stick to try in a lie 4 w88 Wat sticks in ccm or bauer hav the same lie for example thanks!
what radar are they using?
It all depends on how good you can flex the stick I’m 6’1 and like 160 and I use a 70 flex and I can bend the stick to the ground the only bad part about a lower flex is once you wear it out your shot won’t be consistent
But I also don’t use the same curve as they do so that could be the issue
Im a forward and like short sticks so I usually buy an intermediate 65 so there is no cutting. if I buy a senior 65 I would have to cut it and then the 65 becomes a 75 flex. What's the difference between an Intermediate and a Senior besides the size?
Shaft size too pretty sure, like for smaller hands
Put your back into it, big bio! 😉 lower flex is proven better for lighter/weaker players, while higher better for higher impact (press) shots in a heavier/stronger player. Can’t be all arms on your clappers! Great vid!
Could you guys do a review on the Warrior QR5 Pro stick?
It's featured in the next stick video. but we aren't doing a solo review on anything warrior right now.
Are these kph since you guys not in the USA?
I’m currently away at trade school (Jobcorps) and I I miss hockey so much I ordered a box of pucks and now everyone is questioning my sanity 😅
Ive been using 95 ever for the last handful of years and i cannot go back. Im 6’2”, and have been between 175 and 200lbs since ive been using 95 flex sticks. If i use anything that isnt 95, the stick over flexes and i miss the net. Not to mention anything under 95 flex is a 60” or 62” stick, which is too short, which forces me to use a 95 flex stick for the 64” height.
You get used to it in a week or so.
This is a big one!
You guys gotta watch KOVALEV do 90mph snap shots with a 110 flex Warrior. I think the video is around 2004. It’s like a cannon going off.
Having a flex suited to you is more important than how high or low it is. There was a trend of higher is cooler for a long time. Don't just go the other way. Pick a flex that matches you for real, not what you think you need
Just one question how tall is tommy and weight .
omg. that OVO bag. FIRE.
Interesting. When I was 16, I used a 120 flex stick. I had a slapshot of 86mph. Consistently on the radar gun. So if I used a 75 or lower flex, I would have been at 100?!
Is this a bender series?
Curve next great stuff!!!
Were these in Kilometers or MPH
Face toes forward shoulders width apart relax. Twist at waist for power an snap wrists in unison together an ud get a good snap shot.
Been 100/110 my whole life, huge for faceoffs but more exhausting to play for sure. Using an 85 now and it's a noodle by comparison but just so easy to get after it. That said, have no confidence in stick battles
You need to fly me out there to do this test for you.
I rocked a 100 flex senior NXG for a while, decided to buy an 87 flex nexus and it felt too flexible and although my wrist shot felt a litle better, i didnt like how flexible it was, even when i passed the puck my stick would flex, soo i bought a 105 flex true catalyst x9 and tbh feels 100% better, for referene im 6'1 180 lbs, its all a preference game
Where can I buy one in uk?
Excellent video.
Thank you for confirming my own observations. As a beginner, it's tough to know I'm doing something right or wrong in comparison to others as, many times, they don't even know why they use the flex that they do.
Would've been interesting to see you guys go even lower in flex with intermediate and junior sticks to see at what point there are diminishing returns.
We'll continue to play with flex videos until you guys stop enjoying them lol. Thanks for the kind words tho. more videos to come.
Custom True skates for Tommy now! Need ALL the True videos please and thank you LOL
Spotted! Tommy didn't like True skates but since that comment.. A lot has changed! We have True skates videos coming soon. Very soon
If he had better shooting technique it would probably be massively different; shooting with puck far away, his top hand is at his stomach, not leaning on the stick(because it's so far out) I paused on the 75 flex one and the stick barely flexed
what's his ht/wt?
Before i use to slap shot alote use to 85 -95 but the wrist shot is so better in the game today ... never score more than today 1-2 goals a game i'm a defenseman old school normaly 3 goals a years loll but now almost each saturday it's so easy to score loll
The NHL All Star Skills Competition has proven that low shots register higher. I’m down to a 65 flex and I’m 183 and 104 kg
All depends on the person. I played with a 75 as a teen, then a 95 as an adult. Then someone put a 110 in my hands at an ODR a couple years ago and I'll never do less again. Well, unless I lose weight but I don't see that happening at my age. My figure is pretty much defined till I'm an old man. I'm 6ft @ 250lbs. Even a 110 can sometimes feel like a wet noodle to a guy my size. I'm a brick shit house on hockey skates, I'd break a 65 by passing you the puck.
Your shooting mechanics matter. He isn’t loading his stick fully, at any flex. It’s not about your weight, it’s about how strong you are.
That my rink! I play for the grizzlies
Can you guys do a slow motion of his shots
Maybe as a reel or short.
Are the vocals mixed super weird/low for anyone else
He clearly needs no work on his slap shots. There's a reason why top defensemen use higher flex. Because it just adds more power.
The fact that he gets faster shots shots with lower flex sticks show's that something is wrong with his technique.
I’d love to do one of these w/u guys…. If you’re ever in the states
Once they allow non vax people in, we'll be back.
When picking your flex, try 1/3 of your weight. I weight between 180 to 190, and I’m 5’6”. I use the same formula when picking my son’s flex for his stick. I find that you can’t go wrong with 1/3 of your weight.
My kid is 13 weighs 155 pounds 5’11” tall. Uses the AS5 pro 75 flex. His shot is clocked at 80. Maybe he should move to 65 flex.
itll help if you had proper shot technique too, your top wrist is too close to your body the stick cant flex
part II video: same concept with a bigger/taller person see how it goes
My question is why the 9x and not the pox
For your information Great Britain have beaten Canada planète of times before