Why I wanted to QUIT code bootcamp

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  • @benbuurman254
    @benbuurman254 5 років тому +228

    I failed my first programming assignment, and now i'm doing my PhD - never give up if you really want something. You're a lot more capable than you think, and sometimes you just need to approach things a different way.

  • @user-jc8py7dw7r
    @user-jc8py7dw7r 5 років тому +164

    Thanks for your honesty. Coding IS hard and takes a huge amount of work to learn. I’m old enough to be your mom and I have three degrees in areas that have nothing to do with code. I know people think you can’t learn code or tech skills after a certain age, but I refuse to believe them and am plowing ahead with my learning anyway. I’m allowing myself to stumble and be completely confused at times, but I will not be quitting. And once I get more confident, I’ll be applying to Big Tech companies, even if they laugh their asses off at me. Anyway, best of luck to you and I know you’ll do well. Just know we’re all rooting for you!

    • @ayyWIlliamz
      @ayyWIlliamz 4 роки тому +6

      Great stuff... idk about you but the times i feel most confident and motivated are the times i feel the most lost or things just arent clicking but it finally does after because you keep trying

    • @doodlesofdoodles
      @doodlesofdoodles 4 роки тому +4

      Love your perseverance. We're rooting for you too

    • @amnakhairi6019
      @amnakhairi6019 4 роки тому +4

      SM update pleaseeee???

    • @typingwords
      @typingwords 2 роки тому +2

      How are you now Sam?

    • @FeliciasJourney27
      @FeliciasJourney27 2 роки тому

      Update? I’m rooting for you.

  • @danielzavalahuerta
    @danielzavalahuerta 6 років тому +223

    After working 9 12-hour shifts in a row and still trying to code and live my life, i needed this because i was feeling a bit down. Thanks Josh.

    • @ColorMatching
      @ColorMatching 5 років тому +10

      That can't be legal lol

    • @Requiemrexx
      @Requiemrexx 4 роки тому +3

      @@ColorMatching I lived that life, too, once. It's physically impossible. Ended up having organ faliure myself after 6 months of it - hope that guy is doing well.

    • @ColorMatching
      @ColorMatching 4 роки тому +3

      @@Requiemrexx It's criminal

    • @bubbathenaslover
      @bubbathenaslover 4 роки тому +6

      Hope you are coding for a living now because working 9 12 hour shifts is brutal.

    • @danielzavalahuerta
      @danielzavalahuerta 4 роки тому +11

      It was not legal, but I needed the money. I never got the web dev job but only because life got in the way, I got dealt a shit hand but that’s life. The silver lining was that I realized I would much rather become an ethical hacker, it’s what I am learning now. I love the problem solving of code, not creation of websites. dzavalahuerta.github.io/Portfolio/ that’s the link to my portfolio, I was working on a bigger project to hopefully seal the deal but like I said I got dealt a shit hand. That’s not even close to all I did while learning, so in case a newbie finds this and thinks wow only 2 projects, keep in mind that these 2 projects were an amalgamation of all of the knowledge I had acquired up to that point. I applied to about 500 jobs and only got 3 replies if I remember correctly. I know it was because I was lacking competence, and also the fact that I was self-taught so I was a higher risk to employ. I was fighting an uphill battle but I regret none of it even though it did not go the way I planned. Just so you know I worked minimum 8 hours a day learning code sometimes even went 24 hours nonstop learning to get to where I was in a span of 3 months but the total was 6 months, the first 3 months were while I was working a full time job. So no I am not coding for a living but I still plan on it. Thanks for a blast to the past, it motivated me. 😃

  • @Romanslost
    @Romanslost 6 років тому +131

    This is me right now as I am 75%. I hate the struggle bus because I'm not getting it. And then the frustration that we jumped around way too much that I was hitting mental/code blocks. I definitely needed this.

    • @Romanslost
      @Romanslost 6 років тому +4

      @Ryan Dulac I'll definitely keep that in mind. I get this field is ever changing and full of constant learning. The times that something does click feels great, it's the other times that it sucks. But I feel as though being the test subject to this program is just awful. HTML>CSS>JS>PHP>Python>Ruby(and rails)>Elixir( and phoenix)>Data analysis>MySQL>NoSQL>security. Like whoa let me get a chance to catch my breath as someone who still knows nothing. The comforting part of this all, is that others in the program feel the same. But channels like this and others like you giving motivation, definitely makes the willingness to learn feel worth it.

    • @Romanslost
      @Romanslost 6 років тому

      @Ryan Dulac a friend of mine said the same thing that I would have been better off focusing on one thing. Which is what I'm going to do in my own time. With everything so fragmented in my mind I don't feel marketable or capable.

    • @Romanslost
      @Romanslost 6 років тому

      @Ryan Dulac I've heard that, which is why for our final project I'll be doing a Laravel app and using VueJs

  • @P5YCH05L1NG3R
    @P5YCH05L1NG3R 2 роки тому +9

    Thank you. I'm in the thick of it right now at a boot camp, and i was feeling the exact same way. Almost started crying this morning out of frustration. Thanks for the push to keep going through it.

    • @_Cato_
      @_Cato_ Рік тому

      How did things work out for you, buddy?

  • @jmido8
    @jmido8 6 років тому +27

    This is a great video. Since I started self-studying 2 months ago, every time I hit a wall or concept that I just can't comprehend I find myself on youtube/google/reddit searching if it's possible to be incapable of or too stupid to learn coding. Every time I find one of these motivational posts/videos it always begins with the person talking about how smart he is...
    "I'v always been good at school and grasped new concepts quickly but every time I hit a wall in my studies, I found myself wondering if I'm actually dumb. However, with hard work and perseverance, I discovered I am as smart as I said I was and I was able to do it."
    I'm just an average joe, I'm not saying you are average or stupid at all but it was really nice to hear about your struggles learning to code without that self bragging. The way you told your story is relatable, and it has motivated me to keep going at it.

  • @andrerothweiler9191
    @andrerothweiler9191 6 років тому +326

    I think video games are often the problem. It makes me less focused. One day I was playing Arma 3 and I was curious how many hours did I play in these 3 years I had this game. It showed me 1500 hours. I was thinking to myself...hhhmm. If I would spend this time to do something useful, learning to code, do projects or just go to the gym, I could get so much back. So I just deleted all 20 games at my computer this evening, sometimes you have to make such hard choices.

    • @PaulDo
      @PaulDo 6 років тому +16

      that's awesome man, BIG step forward

    • @kodyhogan3568
      @kodyhogan3568 6 років тому +23

      I would say thats a drastic step. Hopefully it works out. If it doesn't, try to set times to play. say work for an hour or two then a 30 min break. Then back at it. Especially with coding. I am trying to do this myself and its challenging, but look at most pros. They will work for a sprint, then a break, then work, and repeat. Coding requires a lot of mental focus. Sometimes trying to go at it in a long sprint is less productive them short sprints.

    • @andrerothweiler9191
      @andrerothweiler9191 6 років тому +20

      I also use Podomoro method and it works well. However, I think I did the right way. I will not play until I found a job and stayed there over 3 months. I was very addicted to games as a teen and this is the same as saying to an alcohol addicted person, you should drink only two beers on weekends! You have to sacrifice for the greater good!

    • @kodyhogan3568
      @kodyhogan3568 6 років тому +2

      @@andrerothweiler9191 I can agree with that. I'm also in the process of landing a web dev job in Colorado (I'm from pgh). I was recently dumped and took it hard. This week has been rough with staying consistent but I'm diving back in.
      About to wrap up javascript30. Next I'm going to learn some react and try to apply it to a gatsby.js website!

    • @AR-uq4lm
      @AR-uq4lm 6 років тому +2

      You are right I knew games weren't for me when I saw 500 hours logged in 3 months time. Been free ever since and life is great and glad for you keep it up 👍

  • @biancaaguglia3742
    @biancaaguglia3742 6 років тому +76

    9:05 "Make the process the reward."
    13:24 "They're not walls to me anymore, they're just obstacles I move around."
    Great advice and great job not giving up.

  • @snehabhat4876
    @snehabhat4876 2 роки тому +9

    First time I started learning programming in college I cried. I thought I would fail and was falling behind. Most people in my class already knew c or c++ which they had learnt In school. While I found c very weird. I would ask silly questions like what is a variable etc. In the ended I ended up doing better than most people in my class. I found a really good book on c which saved me I guess.

  • @reneemoon.1543
    @reneemoon.1543 5 років тому +58

    I needed this video. Attending an online boot camp right now, just a couple months in. Besides the regular overwhelming feeling that comes with knowing absolutely nothing and being a slow learning, I've been hit with a few personal struggles that shot me more behind than I could've imagined. I actually cried over the idea that I wasn't sure what I had gotten myself into. I'm more calm now and even if I'm behind, I'm still going to take my time and push forward. I know that rewarding day will come. Thank you!

    • @yiybrid
      @yiybrid 5 років тому +1

      what bootcamp and how far are you now?

    • @eternalog1c
      @eternalog1c 5 років тому

      @@yiybrid I'm wondering the same thing. I'm in a bootcamp now feeling this exact way.

    • @randerins
      @randerins 5 років тому

      I'm going through the same.

    • @eomyenom1
      @eomyenom1 3 роки тому +3

      How are you doing Carmen?

    • @chaii_latte
      @chaii_latte 2 роки тому +1

      Update?

  • @mattupham
    @mattupham 5 років тому +29

    I wanted to quit my coding bootcamp 3x during the whole process. I made a playlist of videos on the challenges during the bootcamp, wanting to quit, and the realities of the job search. Even when everything is falling apart and you want to quit, success is much closer than you think!

  • @PandemicGameplay
    @PandemicGameplay 6 років тому +21

    A lot of people who go to bootcamps already have experience sometimes a few years so it's not fair to compare yourself to others. Just keep your own goals and don't compare yourself to others it helps.

  • @z0mbiew0lf
    @z0mbiew0lf 6 років тому +86

    This was totally my experience in college. Huge lack of motivation, kept feeling like I was slower than the rest of the class, and I was not good at managing boredom properly. I actually got my first programming job while on academic probation, and that experience led me to my next two positions after that while I finished up my degree part time. It's definitely way easier to teach yourself code once your job is on the line for it.

    • @daple1997
      @daple1997 6 років тому +1

      Couldnt u just stay at the company permanently and forget university?

    • @kodyhogan3568
      @kodyhogan3568 6 років тому +8

      @@daple1997 I would suggest the degree because it helps as a cushion for the next job and also helps with promotions. In college some people focus hard on the gpa. I would say the gpa doesn't matter after the first job. Especially in web development, the projects and how you applied the knowledge matters the most.

  • @brittanylindgren4705
    @brittanylindgren4705 5 років тому +5

    It is so nice to hear you speak so honestly about your struggles. So often people just talk about the positive side of things and don't share any of the doubts they had or challenges they faced and I think that just makes others feel like "Well it's so easy for them. Why am I having such a hard time?" But when you know that other people struggle too it makes you feel more okay and normal when things are frustrating. Thank goodness you hung in there because from what I've seen so far, you bring a lot of value to others who are trying to learn. Thanks for sticking with it!

    • @Turnpost2552
      @Turnpost2552 5 років тому +2

      This guy really says it how it is. What even worse is go thru a bachelors degree in computer science and seeing students surpassing you in an average bootcamp.

  • @bjornarmar2462
    @bjornarmar2462 5 років тому +70

    “Compare yourself not to who someone else is today, but to who you were yesterday.”

  • @hajiamano22
    @hajiamano22 6 років тому +13

    This talk was so real, I appreciate the honesty buddy. Really helps with my moral

  • @Bozeman42
    @Bozeman42 5 років тому +94

    At the code bootcamp I attended it was often said, "Comparison is the thief of joy."

  • @vuphongnguyen1244
    @vuphongnguyen1244 6 років тому +16

    Just failed my first chode challenge today in JavaScript, 9 weeks in ..my whole codebase was failing because i couldn't debug a trailing semicolon after a return...your video helped. Thanks and keep the good work

  • @lauvasquez8030
    @lauvasquez8030 5 років тому +13

    I am literally going through something like this for my Software Engineering program. I'm in my fifth week and it's been so hard. Right now I feel like (and I'm not the only one in the cohort) I'm not learning anything, and even though my peers try to help and explain, it's like it goes in through one ear and out the other. However, I'm trying not to give up, though everyday I feel like just going home and not going back. I've been reading about C which is what we're starting with, downloaded course apps and programming games on my phone, watching tutorials, etc. I know something has to stick! Haha, anyway, this video has helped motivate me to continue now that I know I'm definitely not the only one. I thought it might just be the particular engineering school I'm with but, apparently it's just the way learning software engineering is.

  • @chucktanner2516
    @chucktanner2516 6 років тому +32

    8:00 - very good point. When I started in IT I told a coworker, "I don't know how you do this job. It's just another problem every day!" He grinned and said, "It's another challenge every day."

  • @tonyspicer6691
    @tonyspicer6691 6 років тому +44

    Man I can relate to this a lot. I think another thing to do is to look at older problems and realize how far you have come rather than focusing on the frustration of the moment.

  • @nouralsatari6424
    @nouralsatari6424 3 роки тому +11

    Thank you so much for sharing your experience. I work in a full time soul sucking job and I failed miserably trying to self study. I'm about to quit my job and join a 7 months bootcamp. I don't even know if the money I have saved up will sustain me for 7 months but it's time to do it. I needed this video so thank you.

    • @seemahassen9142
      @seemahassen9142 2 роки тому

      Hey Nour, have you completed the bootcamp yet ?

    • @nouralsatari6424
      @nouralsatari6424 2 роки тому

      @@seemahassen9142 Hey Seema, this Thursday was my last day in the bootcamp. I made it!

    • @seemahassen9142
      @seemahassen9142 2 роки тому +1

      @@nouralsatari6424 congrats @Nour

  • @akirabushido
    @akirabushido 5 років тому +12

    I've been watching your channel but I don't usually comment. I just wanted to thank-you for these kinds of videos. They really help me and a lot of other people Im sure.

  • @Ytillett
    @Ytillett 6 років тому +9

    Thanks for this video. I had to take a break from treehouse because of money and I didn't want to get to the point where I was forgetting stuff so I just sucked it up and took money from other budgets. It's tough when you're struggling to make a living, especially in NYC and pay for decent resources. You're very inspiring and thanks for taking the time out to help up and comers, keeping us motivated and providing us with great knowledge.

  • @karlbooklover
    @karlbooklover 6 років тому +12

    this one nailed it, cultivating the right mindset to learn and grow is the most important skill in the long-term

  • @shhomin149
    @shhomin149 5 років тому +5

    your experience reminds me of my first term as a programming student. i was always the last person finished... always.. I'd read a paragraph of an instruction and deconstruct each sentence because everything sounded like jargon. when I looked left and right, the people who told me they had no programming experience would be finished.. when I asked questions, teachers would tell me to refer to the textbook, well it turned out my classmates had tons of experience and it was wrong of me to compare myself to those who started learning years before me. it was really demotivating.

  • @ErikMurt444
    @ErikMurt444 3 роки тому +5

    "I wanted to quit my life during bootcamp", lmao, so accurate.

  • @_yazmatazz
    @_yazmatazz 6 років тому +3

    love this video, really what i needed to hear right now. Just started my bachelors in comp sci after failing out of university and then working for 5 years. I feel like all the other students have no problem understanding the material and i cant even understand what i need to do for my assignments. Every week i feel like giving up because i would sit working on a problem for 3-4 hours and barely making any progress while the other people seem like they are just fine. Its good to have this kind of reassurance when i feel like im not cut out for this.

  • @skylar1112
    @skylar1112 4 роки тому +3

    Thank you for this video, I am 25% through my bootcamp, and I feel just absolutely dumb. I feel like I'm always weeks behind, the moments where I think I understand, things totally change to me being lost all of a sudden. A few of my classmates are in the same boat, but as you said, its really discouraging as I saw others with no background in coding like me, get it. I never felt like I was at where I was supposed to be, or kept pace with class. In projects and breakout rooms I felt like the weakest link. Hopefully it'll get better

  • @Firestone2467
    @Firestone2467 6 років тому +14

    I am there too, got 3 weeks left and I just can't seem to stay with the rest of the class, thanks for the vid, I will keep going to the classes and study, I will get this job in web development

    • @argihispanicamerican7857
      @argihispanicamerican7857 5 років тому

      Did it happen???

    • @monica9199
      @monica9199 4 роки тому

      Did it happened?

    • @Firestone2467
      @Firestone2467 4 роки тому +2

      @@monica9199 doing a course on iOS app development, completed my web profile and now adding my project to it, once that is done, I will connect my web profile to LinkedIn and I will start looking for startup jobs

  • @mawill432
    @mawill432 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the vid, Josh. Your perspective is appreciated. I just want to add something for all those just starting to learn about web or software development: Please remember that hard work will always overcome natural talent. Your work ethic matters. If you go into it with passion and don't quit, you will surpass those who come into it with a more natural ability to understand the basics. Keep on keepin on!

  • @sedneycastler4086
    @sedneycastler4086 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much ❤️ i really need this

  • @iFayding
    @iFayding 6 років тому +5

    This is a really important video, Josh. A lot of people will really relate to this including myself. It's very reassuring to know that someone you look up to went through similar problems when they first started too :)

  • @poetikassasin
    @poetikassasin 6 років тому +18

    got a bit emotional watching this... i literally just started learning what code is 4 days ago... i bought a udemy course and am trying to teach myself.. I enjoy it but i feel so new and basic. this helped me. thank you

    • @argihispanicamerican7857
      @argihispanicamerican7857 5 років тому +1

      How did it turn out bro...I just started my journey the same way

    • @scribblygums7140
      @scribblygums7140 4 роки тому

      @@argihispanicamerican7857 Important question: how did yours go?

    • @CubeMaths
      @CubeMaths 4 роки тому +1

      @@scribblygums7140 you have to hate it when they dont answer lol

    • @scribblygums7140
      @scribblygums7140 4 роки тому +1

      @@CubeMaths I cry at night waiting for a response.....

    • @CubeMaths
      @CubeMaths 4 роки тому

      @@scribblygums7140 hahaha, how is your journey?

  • @paulv20
    @paulv20 6 років тому +2

    This video is is perfect and is exactly how I feel right now through my coding dojo boot camp experience. It's hard, I'm usually behind on assignments and not getting the concept the first couple times. Many times I thought about quitting, but I didn't want to accept a challenge and just quit. I would feel like a quitter and ashamed for doing something like that. Trying my best, being there everyday and doing my best to keep my head just above the water. Definitely great video!

  • @nicklandreth2527
    @nicklandreth2527 4 роки тому +2

    I constantly keep moving back and forth from thinking i am starting to be competent and feeling like i never will. I have always learned things easily before. Now I found something I really love and care about and I feel like I am just not getting it. This helps a lot. I am so excited for being able to be around other people that code at my first job. Sometimes it feels like i am not getting there fast enough.

  • @TransMansable
    @TransMansable 4 роки тому +6

    I’m actually struggling right now with the precourse work they suggested. I got so frustrated I abandoned a project I was working on. Came here for motivation and I’m glad I’m not alone in feeling lack of motivation when things get hard. I appreciate you being honest and sharing this. It really helped me.

  • @SS-ug1qy
    @SS-ug1qy 5 років тому +8

    Right now I’m going through same thing, I feel like I’m not getting anything it looks so simple when instructor shows but super hard when I try to do it my self. I feel like quitting, I feel like its not for me sometimes, but then at times I say look I quit half of my job to do this I need to do it. I’m learning Java and its harder than JavaScript.

    • @crakhaed
      @crakhaed 5 років тому +2

      also learning java. Keep it up and good luck!!

  • @TylerLemke
    @TylerLemke 6 років тому +5

    Some great nuggets here. I love how transparent you were about asking for help immediately and that you need to enjoy the process and not just see it as a means to an end. Funny you put this video out because I recently did a podcast with a buddy of mine who actually quit programming.
    Keep putting out the great content. I have seen your content shared inside of Slack where upcoming devs are learning and I am looking forward to seeing more content on LinkedIn. Maybe sometime we can do a collab video in the future.

  • @chihiirohfp8966
    @chihiirohfp8966 6 років тому +5

    No zero days; what an awesome phrase. Thanks for the motivation!

  • @oscarmike1131
    @oscarmike1131 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you very much. I sincerely mean that. Your videos are an inspiration to this Ghana boy that never thought in a million years he would be coding. Thank you

  • @kevin-mv6qf
    @kevin-mv6qf 6 років тому +7

    Thanks for this, I'm heading out to a 7 month full-time course next month, I'm a bit nervous and these thoughts/concerns crossed my mind several times.

    • @Mersoh
      @Mersoh 4 роки тому

      How did it turn out?

    • @Sir21Goals
      @Sir21Goals 4 роки тому

      Any update

  • @Uchiha_Mako
    @Uchiha_Mako 6 років тому +7

    Great video man. I'm going into coding bootcamp in the next coupla months and this is some inspiring shit coz I've heard horror stories about just how challenging it is.

    • @kolyxix
      @kolyxix 6 років тому +1

      But despite those horrors stories, you will still go?

    • @Uchiha_Mako
      @Uchiha_Mako 6 років тому +6

      @@kolyxix Heckyeah, gotta risk it to get the biscuit

    • @OmarLikesToTalk
      @OmarLikesToTalk 2 роки тому

      Well??? Are you coding?

  • @advo8654
    @advo8654 3 роки тому +1

    This video helped me so much, I was feeling very frustrated and you really helped put thing into perspective much love bro🙏🙏

  • @ChristopherJohnston
    @ChristopherJohnston 5 років тому +6

    I know exactly how you felt with the code challenges. I feel that with almost every Javascript repl.it assigned at Lambda.

  • @condorb7756
    @condorb7756 5 років тому +5

    I'm about to start a fulltime thinkful bootcamp and i really needed this.

  • @jizamurai
    @jizamurai 6 років тому +2

    Thanks for this Josh. Got 2 months left in my bootcamp and I've often felt like I have 'imposter syndrome' as a 'student' throughout. I often need to keep in mind that others are not working full-time like I am while in this so I need to work even harder instead of giving up

  • @mikeeb290
    @mikeeb290 4 роки тому +1

    Been watching a couple of your videos- i took a couple of programming courses or courses that involve programming (robot academy and intro to microcontrollers) i relate 10000% , minus the forget it and just play overwatch. Honestly, I would spend too much time and never walk away. But you're right, you've got to treat the process as "fun" and enjoy and understand the fact that frustration and improper code is common, its not just happening to you. Once I did that, it helped change my view. I also ended up getting some of the highest grades in the class.

  • @KassieJane
    @KassieJane 5 років тому +1

    I'm trying to learn JS and starting a short bootcamp in November but every time I have a JS problem to solve I just get stuck and feel like such an idiot. It's especially frustrating because I understand the logic and if I watch a solution video I follow it 100% but can't seem to PRODUCE the code. So comforting to hear you also struggled and look where you are now. Real motivation thanks a lot Josh.

  • @chorezap
    @chorezap 5 років тому +8

    Some of the smartest people in class are the last to get jobs. I noticed a few were nice at first and after 3 months very arrogant. I think people need to be more humble to get the job offer.

    • @owenwexler7214
      @owenwexler7214 4 роки тому

      That was one of the first things that came to my mind after Josh said that. You know someone who is arrogant enough to correct the teacher in front of the whole class isn’t going to come correct in a job interview.

  • @rendezvous1991
    @rendezvous1991 5 років тому +2

    Been watching a couple of your videos a night for about a week now. Currently in a Trilogy cohort, and I remember seeing your opinion on it. On that note, I can say that I feel like we have really great instructors and ta's. I'm a little over halfway through my 6 month part time course, and I can say that even though I know so much more than I knew going into it, I'm generally a bit lacking in confidence anyway. I'm also bad about comparing myself to other people, as you mentioned in one of your points. You look around the room, and you see people that are struggling to complete something that seems easy to you, but then you see someone else that's already finished and you instantly feel defeated. It's also nerve-wrecking, trying to get ideas for a portfolio because you don't want to use the template you did in an earlier assignment and make it your own, then finding example after example online that are 10 times better than anything you've came up with. Perhaps that's because we haven't gotten into react yet, and I generally have a distaste for bootstrap because of the fighting I've had to do with my css to get things to align the way I wanted. But anyway, kind of torn between, 1.) I know way more than I did before and I may be doing better than a few others. 2.) Even if I finish, the further I get the more I realize I DON'T know and it leaves me with the dreaded feeling of, "is this enough?" At the very least, 3 months ago I would have never spent so much as 10 minutes browsing web development videos on youtube. It's frustrating, being excited about learning new things each class but realizing that with each new thing you learn there's a dozen more you won't.

    • @JoshuaFluke1
      @JoshuaFluke1  5 років тому +2

      Instructors and TA's are great. It's the business model and lack of transparency that I dislike.

  • @shnz6440
    @shnz6440 6 років тому +1

    Thanks for making this video, I’m about to start a boot camp next week and I’m glad that I know exactly what to expect. I will try to enjoy the process of struggle and learning new and challenging content. A new career path at 46 is scary as hell!

  • @FireSpinningTr33
    @FireSpinningTr33 5 років тому +3

    Been hitting a wall with programming recently and this really helped. Really liking all your videos. Definitely subscribed.

  • @loitermanart
    @loitermanart 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this. I HAVE experience and I took a full stack development course to get my skills up to date. Almost failed it, instructor was impatient with me, truth is I was a slow learner and kept making dumb mistakes but after the course ended I was LUCKY as hell to have a job lined up. It WAS because I had experience and.... freakishly, they didn't need any of the skills I had supposedly learned. But... I made the mistake of not reviewing this stuff. So I may have forgotten quite a bit. Kicking myself for not reviewing but I was so burnt out and focused on just thus new job I thought it was OK. Things could be worse.

  • @inteligenciamilgrau
    @inteligenciamilgrau 2 роки тому

    Man, I´m a senior developer, and when I hear you telling how bad you feel about yourself looking at your "smart" friend, makes me think about myself!! A lot of times maybe I´m the "smart" guy that knows everything!! And sometimes I tell them that one day I was tottaly lost doing a simple print because I learned from zero too!! But, at this time, I´m seeing that people aroud me maybe can feel depressed about themselves! It´s strange to think at this perspective!! But I´m glad to understand that my job is also to show to others that this "magic" that we have before taking a lot of experience comes with time! And lots of time challenging myself doing some tasks or trying to understand the same problem througth another point of view!! Thank you so much for your video!! Se ya!!

  • @davidroseitg
    @davidroseitg 6 років тому +3

    Great vid. The attrition rate in my software dev course in college was 50%, that's a lot of people who give up. People need to understand this os not an easy line of work, but it can be very rewarding. You are so right, you have to enjoy the process, take pride in it, refractor often and stay calm when others don't give you enough information to deliver what they want first time.

    • @georgejetson9801
      @georgejetson9801 6 років тому

      So true. The schools with their everyone gets a gold star attitude, doesn't give kids the tools to succeed. It was much harder 30 years ago, but our programs were solid and we learned that shit. No google to figure it out.

  • @TonyVeliz01
    @TonyVeliz01 6 років тому +2

    Thanks bro!.. Currently doing a Data-science boot-camp and I feel the same way.. thanks for the motivation!!

  • @gersonjunior1285
    @gersonjunior1285 Рік тому +1

    Im 6 weeks in now and I can really relate to your experience. We do pair programming all the time and in every single time I felt like the other person knew much more than me. I know I shouldn't compare myself to others but it just doesn't feel good to stay behind when everyone else is improving. I will not give up though, even if I don't get a job right after the bootcamp I promised myself I'll keep trying!

    • @_Cato_
      @_Cato_ Рік тому

      How did things go for you, man?

    • @gersonjunior1285
      @gersonjunior1285 Рік тому

      @@_Cato_ Hi, it actually turned out really well for me. I finished the boot-camp and managed to get a job as a junior Developer only 3 weeks later. I know there are some people who did way better than me on the boot-camp and 3 months later still haven't found a job, unfortunately. I got lucky to find a company who was willing to develop me as opposed to most which expect a lot of experience even from juniors.

  • @cassandraestrada8107
    @cassandraestrada8107 5 років тому +2

    8:00 wow!! Good way to make me think twice about my relationship with boredom. Thanks man!

  • @micjakes1
    @micjakes1 5 років тому +3

    This was great. Gives all of us hope.

  • @mushie1221
    @mushie1221 3 роки тому

    Man I feel all of this so hard! Every day. Right in the middle of it. Thank you for sharing your story. OH jeez! Yeah, feeling the comparison and demotivation, and the head on desk.

  • @doodlez2439
    @doodlez2439 6 років тому +2

    Stopped learning coding for more than a month this really got my motivation going back on thank you for sharing your journey . :)

  • @leum3352
    @leum3352 6 років тому +2

    Thanks Josh! You're helping me get through life these days.

  • @dylanwilliams7572
    @dylanwilliams7572 5 років тому

    I really appreciate your honesty and how straight up you are about your life and experience with this career.

  • @Spaceman_YT
    @Spaceman_YT 3 роки тому +1

    Watching this on my 3rd week at my Bootcamp. Feelings are 100% the same. Feeling left behind, and falling behind etc. Hopefully I look back at this, and laugh at how I was feeling at the time. 13 more weeks to go, wish me luck.

  • @taylorcody7906
    @taylorcody7906 4 роки тому +1

    This resonates so much with me. I am 5 weeks into a 6 month full stack bootcamp and feeling all the feels. This is motivating for sure.

  • @MrPDTaylor
    @MrPDTaylor 6 років тому +2

    It's the seemingly insurmountable volume of things to learn that gets to me. ( but I love every second of it)

    • @matthewtetley7048
      @matthewtetley7048 6 років тому

      yup, if i'm not careful with planning i can get overloaded as well and over or underestimate how long something may take

  • @finalthoughts3622
    @finalthoughts3622 Рік тому

    I know this video is old, but I want to say thanks, Joshua. I was feeling every bit of what you were going through during my bootcamp. It always felt that in a scaling of top perform to least, I'm dead last. Everybody would always talk about what they're going to do after they get their first job, and I could only imagine if i'd be lucky enough to get an interview. Fast forward, I'm the only one from my cohort who has a job and been going strong for 8 month now. I always knew that when I saw this video during my bootcamp time, it would all work out.

  • @Iamrahcole
    @Iamrahcole 6 років тому +8

    This video resonates with me. I'm a stay at home mom of 4 and am taking udemy courses. I've been at it for the last 2 months and it's so HARD. I can only devote about 2 hours a night because I homeschool my kids and it's really been a struggle staying motivated. I'm currently learning javascript and it's kicking my butt. Most days I question if I made the right decision trying to get into development. This is definitely a learning curve. Just trying to hang in there.....

    • @luckypius132
      @luckypius132 6 років тому

      Hang on Nicky, it's worth it.

    • @daltonfury911
      @daltonfury911 5 років тому

      @nickyworth25: How's the process going for you 2 months after your post here? Are you still feeling the same way? Have you been able to break through the barrier?

    • @Iamrahcole
      @Iamrahcole 5 років тому +1

      Dalton Fury hi there! I haven’t given up. I should be finished with my course in 5 weeks. Still doesn’t feel like it’s clicked, but I’m aware that real world and a bootcamp are two different things so I’m hopeful my feelings will change once I land an actual web dev job.

    • @natasdabsi1138
      @natasdabsi1138 Рік тому

      ​@@Iamrahcoleupdate ?

    • @Iamrahcole
      @Iamrahcole Рік тому

      @@natasdabsi1138 Couldn't get the hang of it. My mental bandwidth at the time couldn't keep up. I ended up going for I guess you can say "low-hanging fruit". Used my current skills added a few more and landed in an accounting career.

  • @devonrusinek5807
    @devonrusinek5807 5 років тому +1

    This was exactly how I felt when I did the Piscine at 42 last year. Been learning on my own since, but certainly some revelations at that trial bootcamp.

  • @anitamae11
    @anitamae11 2 роки тому

    This is one of the realest videos I've seen in a while. I'm a waitress and haven't been to school in years. When I did attend school I was always the last to catch on... I just enrolled in a city college to take a couple of beginner coding courses. I'm also enrolled in a couple of bootcamp pre courses. I have 9 months to prepare as much as I can before attempting to start a bootcamp. I am terrified and the realness of this video was so inspiring. I can easily see this being me in bootcamp! 😂. Great video!

  • @lwa.dev74
    @lwa.dev74 6 років тому +1

    Man, I have been so inspired by all your videos and empathy in doing this coding thing... I always thought I could have a conversation with this guy but wait...I don't know enough or I would hit a wall mid conversation etc... I'm still here trying too self learn and understand... But I really appreciate your videos as if I get lost sometimes it's good to reflect and refocus... Keep doing great work my friend :-)

  • @cristianmetz9470
    @cristianmetz9470 3 роки тому

    old vid, but a much needed message. Thanks Josh.

  • @bluescanfly1981
    @bluescanfly1981 4 роки тому

    Josh - Good stuff. I'd say keep putting yourself in challenging situations to prevent burn out. Sounds counter intuitive, but it's important to let yourself suck at something. Otherwise, if (when) you fail it'll crush you. Also, it keeps the humility which is also key.

  • @DanielPetrov1
    @DanielPetrov1 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you a lot, Joshua for making that video❗ I find it quite helpful because I am currently studying coding aka Software Development into the PVTI which stands for Public Vocational Training Institute, and there are guys way too smarter than me that understand questions and tasks earlier and easier than I do. That, very video of yours gave me the click that it's okay not to be like others (if I can express it that way)❗ Thanks again and wish you Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year's Eve ❗

  • @frankcarreno5655
    @frankcarreno5655 6 років тому +7

    I have to make a statement in here: I'm an electrical engineer with a minor in telecommunications. I do work for a big Corp. I do get pay extremely well but somehow I felt I wanted to do more. So, I tried to get registered in a boot camp; while dealing with registration I noticed the recruiter and administrative agent were all about the Benjamins $$$, I was given an insight of the facilities and students in the campus. Thanks God I noticed 2 known faces that once they saw me didn't wait 5-4-3-2-1-0 seconds to get in touch with me and tell me "Get That F Outta Here". Boot camps aren't for the beginner. 2nd, if you are looking for a source of income or change of career, Web Development/programming is not the way out. I learned the lesson over time when I questioned myself after taking some udacity/UA-cam courses, etc. Later, I learned that if I wanted to code at this level it would only, merely for pleasure only. Only in that way, I was able to make an advance on this path. If you don't love it, don't feel passion for this career path, if you do feel bored or feel this is not for you, stop and analyze yourself because it is your inner voice yelling at you about what's going on. Sometimes you have to learn to read the omens live have in your way. Going to a bootcamp without a background, it is like going to war without a proper training or an empty gun. I hope this helps. Later! Too long message, sorry.

    • @harshshinde7469
      @harshshinde7469 5 років тому

      Thx man, but what if I couldn't figure out anything I want to do, I am a very boring and non-passionate, I tried to change but haven't yet found a way and I am 21,so I have to force myself to do something,instead of nothing!
      Ps-sorry for bad grammar

    • @ryanrichard6164
      @ryanrichard6164 5 років тому

      What camp did you visit?

  • @king-manu2758
    @king-manu2758 4 роки тому +1

    When I first got to object oriented programming in js that was my first breaking point when I felt I was going to quit because I couldn't go any further. It costed me a lot to break through being stuck on that and now I've hit my second breaking point when trying a laravel project with traversy media and finishing it, trying to do things on my own in the app and nothing working out for me. But this time around I have more faith on myself to go through this one.

  • @wearejungians
    @wearejungians 4 роки тому

    Thanks for these older videos, Joshua. I really appreciate it. I'm learning Javascript right now and was already feeling discouraged. I'm quite tech savvy and have always been good with computers but couldn't wrap my head around the code so hearing your story really is easing the discouragement.

  • @TonyMoze
    @TonyMoze 3 роки тому +2

    OMG I had the same kid at the beginning of the video at my bootcamp. And he was given a job offer too, and rejected it, and then it took him 2 years to finally land a software "type" job.

  • @dominicrussell8158
    @dominicrussell8158 4 роки тому

    Glad I follow you, started to learn to code around a month ago, I find I have ups and downs when I just can’t get a project to work. The pivotal moment is when everything goes the way it should

  • @BLACKNOY0979
    @BLACKNOY0979 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for this video man, I’m about to Enter the world of IT via cyber security coming from healthcare and I just wanna say this vid help me decide that I should do it... thanks again

  • @Najibway
    @Najibway 6 років тому +5

    I can apply to what you're saying to universities. Thanks

  • @woulfe42
    @woulfe42 5 років тому +1

    This guy spews a lot of wisdom, thank you brotha.

  • @aaronvarga5496
    @aaronvarga5496 6 років тому

    Awesome reflection. Thank you for sharing that experience. Helps me not be completely overwhelmed myself.

  • @valenciawalker6498
    @valenciawalker6498 Рік тому

    Thank you I’ve felt this way . Took a break from coding bootcamp in SE.

  • @sergious_null
    @sergious_null 3 роки тому

    Appreciate the content. Going through bootcamp right now, and just focusing on learning all of it for the skills. So that I can make my own future. Thanks for the great content!

  • @delturge
    @delturge 2 роки тому

    I love that statement about Stackoverflow being a thing! That is fantastic. Now, back to the video. 🤣 Having finished the video, right on, man. Right on. You are an brave, brave, soul. I totally understand the learning curve, but I didn't put that kind of money on the line upfront. I think you will benefit, long term, from surviving. I know that is the case with boot camp in the U.S. Army. Thank you for your salient and relevant testimonial. It should be required viewing for the boot camp industry. Peace. --Anthony

  • @albirtarsha5370
    @albirtarsha5370 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for your honesty. It really connects!

  • @wilmzcosme
    @wilmzcosme 5 років тому +1

    i can relate!! I really need this now. Thanks for this vid Josh

  • @johnny2552
    @johnny2552 5 років тому

    Hey man I appreciate your honesty here and its such a real thing to think in any field. I felt this doing art stuff, this exact way, so its just really nice to hear that other people go through this and can come out successful in the end. Thanks for this video!

  • @Edzmens19
    @Edzmens19 6 років тому

    Loved the ending about 'how to find what you want to do' I did it with working all sorts of jobs that I hate, but now reflecting back on them I look for those 1-few things I had to do that I liked about them. It helps to understand what are the processes that excite you.

  • @jaytalkss
    @jaytalkss 4 роки тому +1

    I have started coding 3 month ago and I am learning front end but coming to JavaScript I can't really understand lots of things and 3 weeks passed since I started JavaScript. Jumping from different free resources on the internet sometimes I want to quit cause still struggling to understand and coding isn't my major I am majoring in tax. I have graduated and still haven't applied to any job. All in all your videos are awesome and they are motivating me to be on track thanks man for being honest with us!

    • @Spartansrule118
      @Spartansrule118 4 роки тому

      Any update?

    • @jaytalkss
      @jaytalkss 4 роки тому

      @@Spartansrule118 still learning but in practical way. Already understood many things you know if you are feeling dumb in coding it is normal just keep going

  • @thehomeschooldev6126
    @thehomeschooldev6126 4 роки тому

    Hey, Josh great topic. I'm currently enrolled in a free boot camp learning IoT coding & Hardware Design. It is really challenging because I'm learning C & C++, prototyping electrical circuits and working with microprocessors. I'm a self-taught web developer who has been learning and teaching my sons to code this past year. I had an opportunity to take this free boot camp, base on my income I said yes. It's very fast-paced and hard, but so much fun! Full of ups and downs!

  • @IvanIvanov-qx5oz
    @IvanIvanov-qx5oz 4 роки тому +20

    "I wanted to quit my life during code bootcamp"
    Well that's a dark thumbnail...

    • @amnakhairi6019
      @amnakhairi6019 4 роки тому

      Ivan Ivanov that’s actually how I read it at first 😂

    • @criptik5208
      @criptik5208 3 роки тому +1

      Thatd not the thumbnail

  • @xHeroinBoBx
    @xHeroinBoBx 4 роки тому

    Thanks man, going through that right now and now it's all online with the corona beer going around and everything..... so distractions are even worse. Needed to hear that tho. Thx

  • @svporqueno
    @svporqueno 5 років тому

    Great advice man, just what I needed as I am sitting here trying to grasp the concepts of scope and closure

  • @wanglewis2158
    @wanglewis2158 3 роки тому

    Absolutely understand that feeling. I was there too. Programming is not easy.

  • @Beachlife17
    @Beachlife17 4 роки тому

    Brooo thank u so much for this video! I am going to a coding boot camp soon and I am trying to teach myself the basics before I even go, and it seems so hard, but I study every day, and this video helped me SOOOO much! Thank u bro! Good luck with ur career!!

  • @tebogolefophana3010
    @tebogolefophana3010 4 роки тому

    You have no idea how helpful this is for me. Thank you bruh

  • @pattananprasit8331
    @pattananprasit8331 3 роки тому

    I’m in that stage right now. Heading to a second month of FinTech Bootcamp with no experience and English is not my native language. I mostly find myself stressed and depressed all the time since I have started. But your video helps a lot. It’s good to know I’m not the only one. I know it could be more difficult but I will persevere . Thank you very much.