And i was still downplaying and lowballing sailor moon lol, join the discord for the real scale. The discord- discord.gg/pandemonia My cashapp for video requests- cash.app/$KT2fr Edit* i do believe goku to have Inaccessible speeds due to him being able to move in the void zeno had created when he killed zamasu’s timeline HOWEVER i do not think that goku has irrelevant speeds since he does not transcend the concepts of space and time.
@@JustinCarbaugh Hmm 10 people that could neg her before she even can think to defend herself: Anos Anti Spiral Featherine LN Rimuru Archie Sonic Xeno Goku (from the game) Hajun Kumagawa (I might have butchered that) Demigra Enerjack
The feats sailor moon gets up are crazy. Glad you mentioned nehelenia. Like you said she lives in her own universe. Well, sailor moon destoyed it. She destroyed a universe. This alerted other beings including Sailor Galaxia to recognize Sailor Moon"s sovereignty.
@@magickgeminid2944 actually what alerted galaxia was the awakening of eternal sailor moon and the fusion of every crystals power making her light travel across the universe allowing galaxia to find her
As a Goku fan i was just saying yeah go king when his feats came. Then Usagi got me hand on mouth eyes closed knowing my goat gets clapped just like that.
Damn okay I didn’t know u downplayed Goku before. But I’m glad u take it into account the whole 5D meta of the other world. I just think is pretty consistent with multiple guides stating it transcends the living world
Also the macrocosm doesnt stop at 5d as superdimensions exists in dragon ball also garlic junior creates a hyperspace making it 7d and the kaishin realm looks down upon the afterlife and the living realm and can only be accesed via kai kai or instant transmission and exists outside the macrocosm making it 8d and the neutral zone and timeline beyond that so 9d to 10d at max without heroes or arale or outer metas
@@JadoBouhzamI didn’t know a hyperspace that has the properties of a black hole (light cant escape) somehow has 2+ dimensional transcendence that makes the macrocosm go from 5-7D even though his “ability” isn’t a realm in said macrocosm 😭😭
Dr Slump is apart of the Dragon Ball cosmology and you didn't add none of that also Heroes view DB as fiction and it's also apart of the cosmology and Goku in base scale bare minimum to 6 to 7D in base so when he turns into Mui then he would far out scale Sailor Moon I don't understand why you didn't add this. And the Hakai Lord Beerus destroy a ghost from Dr Slump that survive multiple narrative being completely destroyed and yet Goku was going to earse Zamusa who is literally infinitely greater than that Ghost that's beyond concepts and for Speed Goku is far beyond space and time considering Hit and Jiren plus Universe 7 in itself Goku is above all this.
@@JayJohnson-ls3eq dragonball heros is a game. Not the manga or anime. And dr slump is a whole separate series which again has no relation to the Main timeline of DB,DBZ,or DBS. ( this is not me saying its not canon to DB cause ik you dragonball fans cant read)
@personahearts358 I totally hear you. She is just absolutely garbage in the beginning of her anime. She could literally lose to a street thug. Then she destroys literal ideas themselves... magical girls, am I right? 😆
@@Rekora_Wulf... That's the point. Sailor Moon was originally just a regular adolescent girl. And over time she develops into a magical girl warrior. That's the whole idea... 🙄
@@seeleunit2000 I know that? I wasn't saying anything disrespectful. I was basically affirming how powerful the trope really is. Sailor Moon is unique among the magical girl trope, though.
Don't worry you alright because it's not true well the winner anyways. Goku absolutely stumps here Temp didn't even add Dr Slump, Beats/Dragon Ball Heroes Cosmology or any other thing like Dragon Quest which is also all apart the Dragon Ball cosmology base Goku in Super alone is 6 to 7D so when he Transform he would literally be infinitely greater than that level.
I am honestly not surprised. I watched a UA-camr reacting to Death Battle's Goku vs. Superman, claiming Sailor Moon easily destroy both of them. And, honestly, to this day, I still believe him.
You can just explain Sailor Moon inheriting the power of the Cauldron which erases concepts and erases things temporally (when Tuxedo Mask got erased in the cauldron his daughter Chibi Moon also got erased). You can also debunk the Hakai notion with Sailor Moon surviving inside of the Cauldron which I stated earlier that can erase concepts.
It is the same as Goku he can also survive this in dbs Goku can survives the power of hakai in base which literary earse anything he can also survive in the lava.
@@madiharehman5214 No Hakai only erases Mind, Body, and Soul. It can't even erase Zamasu from all points in time so it already doesn't completely erased you temporally and it doesn't have any feats of erasing concepts even Sailor Galaxia can do it. And even without the Lambda power, Sailor Senshis has some regeneration that can work even when their body and soul is gone as demonstrated when Sailor Saturn awakened her powers where her body and soul perish but came back when her powers got awakened.
@@shia8938 no you don't understand it earse anything the fighting between Vegeta and topo he was using hakai where it touches it earse anything and what you are talking about zamasu it is story of time ring the time ring has the power to change any timeline Beerus already destroy zamasu in that universe but he has a time ring the time ring changes stories
@@madiharehman5214 It just erases the mind, body, and soul And like I said Sailor Moon can regenerate even without the Lambda power against those kind of erasure and the fact that she also existence erasure. Also no it cannot erase concepts so you're already wrong on that one. That's what I said Beerus can't even temporally erase Zamasu which means the Cauldron erasure is much potent since it erases every version of you and even erasing anything existing that's dependent of you existing like when when Tuxedo Mask got erased her daughter also got erased.
I wached and Read both and i still think is much closer than in his Video. Galaxy Cauldron is not the strong there is litterly not a singel hint that like he statet it is the many world interpretation. Even the scans he show just say ´´all possibilities´´ and this isnt waht the many world interpretation is. It must been above that wich is dont a singel scale for that. But yea i mean you can go with it.
@@Rekora_Wulf yea true. I didnt say Goku slaps but I think in much closer than in this video. I know Sailer moon well caus it is my first Anime AND Manga and rly love the series. At least im glad she gets the respect she deservs
W vid and I thought SM verse ain't that deep scaling wise but you really opened my eyes more on this lmao. But yeah she solos Goku fr (both goated OG protags tho)
He didn't even mention the dream dimension in SM. Dreams aren't just concepts in SM. They are planes of existence that each person visits when they sleep but can be trapped in. That's yet another plane of existence not even mentioned here.
I think that they would be similar or even in power I'm not really knowledgeable on sailor Moon speed but I do know that she would most likely take hacks and abilities over Goku which are definitely career ending for him Just kidding Goku loses thanks for not overhyping him like other people do
Simple? Is that what simple is? --I'm kidding. Wow, that was great. I'm glad YOU did the research, because my head would've exploded after the first few pages of dialogue. Tempest rules!
Ngl I was turned off from the channel when I saw goku vs medaka was a video because I assumed it was in fact another goku glazer wasting time saying he wins a fight that he doesn’t and that isn’t one, that being said I randomly decided to watch the to sailor moon videos I’m actually impressed even with this more generous interpretation of goku and sailor being a bit downplayed these were really well done and hope to see that 3rd video , I’ll probably subscribe
So shes able to easily scale above an infinite amount of 8D/7D spaces, she should be hyperversal as shes able to easily upscale these. High 1-B involves destroying an infinite amount of universes that expand 6 or 5 dimensions, and that may bypass infinity. The galaxy cauldron should also be 8D since it transcends these spaces, and even higher since it may transcend dimensionality. And im not gonna repeat it but as you said shes 10D+ Also sailor moon is immune to erasure and will regenerate from it since shes able to survive the galaxy cauldrons destruction
Ok Here me out. Both these characters have died and comeback The difference is Goku always needed the dragon balls or some outside force. Sailor moon Has Also done that But through her own power After her death So it might be automatic. More then that tho i don't think goku would have the heart to keep fighting her. He enjoys the fight she doesn't
I do think that the infinite speed scaling for Goku is a bit wanky because yes is there a key in physical stats are one in the same but that kind of doesn't sound right, I'm not trying to downplay Goku but I'm not sure it's shaking an infinite realm accumulates to speed
wsg my boy! happy 4th! while I think personally goku wins I gotta say the footage is fresh breath of air, and the editing is only getting better!. I would love to see a low end scaling and hear you talk about how destructive people like luffy, gojo, and sukuna are great vid.
W video what about sailor chaos vs zamasu Super & heroes idk just a video idea I mean the galaxy cauldron is downplayed a lot like as in marvel destroying a planet in higher dimensional space is better than destroying a planet in a 3-D scale but that is because context is ignored
I wonder if Sailor Moon’s Silver Crystal is as powerful as Marvel’s Infinity Gems? The Silver Crystal gets as powerful as its user, so I can only imagine Sailor Cosmos with the Silver Crystal at its peak, she would be incredibly formidable.
I would say the Silver Crystal is stronger, since it has infinite power and is a singular stone versus 5 of them needed. Plus it operates on your heart's strength, so it's literally cracked.
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Sailor Moon beated Goku in a Death Battle. The characters in Sailor Moon are really busted and have so many haxes. Only characters from Marvel/DC universe and the Archie Sonic comics would put up a decent fight against them.
If usagi is underestimated against Goku, I'm certain Usagi would probably be stronger than anos and Rimuru cuz she's definitely underestimated by all of them
@@tobi6168 Tell me you didn't read Sailor Moon and go to school to understand how to spell "tell" without telling me you didn't read Sailor Moon a d go to school fo understand how to spell "tell" XD
By the way u confused me u didnt mention anything about arale when bringing up goku who he scales to the same arale who is in fact canon to dragon ball and performed a feat of casually transcending her cosmology infinitly as she ripped her own manga page and was holding said manga page on the next page which the manga page shows her holding said manga page implying an infinite transcendence loop which is high hyperversal and beerus was a threat to thag arale who goku in fact scales to in the tournament of power also u didnt mention the subspace in dragon ball which is the space that contains the hyperbolic timeshamber which is stated to have no concepts of time and space also hakia works on a way higher level then previouslay as it was a danger to arale who can survive being a erases from the plot and the hakai was said to erase her from the plot completely implying it can work on people who can survive erasure on the narrative level which is nuts also goku does have immeasurable the whole stronger than ur opponent thinng is only in the manga the anime litrally states jiren transcends time itself as he was able to movie while time was being stopped on him and broke through hits time cage also in dragon ball power corelate to speed meaning the increases in power also increases the persons speed to what that power is capable so when a person in dragon ball transcends time it means he transcends both time in terms of dimensionality and speed so it means goku does have immeasurable speed also the battle between jiren and goku was litrally stated by the narrator to be superdimensional i dont see how sailor moon can even touch goku while he has ui also even u dont agrue hyper or outerversal goku does not cap at 6d since garlic junior litrally created a hyperspace which is 5d so its 7d than theres the neutral zone which is the space between universes that contain all the infinite sized macrocosms so that makes it 8d and then the timeline which contains everything from the neutral space to all the macrocosm which merged zamasu merged with and goku said if he had a senzu bean he could have stopped this merged zamasu and suppresed jiren from the tournament of power scales higher than this omnipresent merged zamasu sorry goku beats sailor moon also im confused why u cant rely on koyoma as toriyama litrally stated he trusts people who work on the show with the information of dragon ball more than himself and koyoma only said he doesnt have the final say since he was litrally being commented by the twitter dragon ball fans non stop and wanted to silence them out why would the guy who worked on mulitple dragon ball movies and episodes of dragon ball not be reliable but when a comic writed says something about a comic scan when it comes to a superheros power or cosmology its a valid u see the problem when it comes to power scaling scalers pick and choose what they think is valid or not ok koyoma may have had a bit of bias when it comes to the character of broly but that because its the character he created and he admitted it himself why would he make shit up about the dragon balls cosmology lol i definetly dont agree with this video love ur videos man but even here i felt goku was downplayed ur friend captain did a better job scaling goku in his xeno goku vs featherine video he brought up higher scaling for just canon goku who xeno goku scales above than what u gave him just saying
@ghoulchan7525 yeah and her gag abilities can be scaled not all gag characters are made equal and goku was relative to her during his fight against in super and yeah I dont think he could have beat her during her max at that point however it wasn't a one shot either and he would have given her a fight and guess who was way stronger than her beerus he was so strong that her gag abilities would have no affect on him and goku during the tournament of power in the anime surpassed beerus with mui and only grew stronger afterwards
Being faster than light literally breaks the laws of physics as far as space time and you wouldn’t experience time moving that fast so most light speed+ feats are already irrelevant speed and gives them time travel feats
Violating the law of causality is a time travel feat and it’s just how many multiple times faster than light someone is up until a point of instantaneous autonomous movement
Zamasu basically did the whole merge with multiple timelines while being from a 4d/5d future and was going to die to a goku that fought hit in the rematch essentially..not even top when goku gets infinitely stronger
The dragon ball universe has never been stated to be infinite, in fact we know it's not infinite because you can literally fly from one universe to another.
Mortal Realm is 3D Hell is 4D Heaven is at least inf 4d. Now the Cosmology can reach between 5-8D due to the dimensional scaling of the Kaioshin Realm and the Neutral Zone. Now, through the King Kai scan, it's stated that the Kaioshin Realm is at least 2 dimensions above Heaven, placing it at 6D. Now the Neutral Zone scales at least 1-2 dimensions above the highest dimension in the macrocosm, due to it being the void that seperates each of the universes in Universe 7. Now, I'll talk in the sense that the Kaishin Realm is on the same dimensional leveling as Heaven. That puts U7 at least at 5-6D. We can scale Goku at 6D low complex multiversal. Also Goku negates her hax due to higher dimensionality, scaling and physical power. And yes it is canon.
Head canon dimensional scaling. Salior moon caps at universal dude was over hyping her With that head canon dimensional scaling bs. That not how spatial dimensions work. Those are just fictional dimensions outside of the universe Not only that afterlife\hell is literally the same size as the living realm. U7 is only universe+ No way near over 1000 times universal. Kaioshin realm and afterlife being above space and time been contridicted in super. Dbs entire comsology keeps at low 5d at best and the cosmology no way near the size complex multiverse. Vsbattles keep changing their terms and not an reliable source.
Their are alternate times of the kaioshin realm and afterlife. The only thing remotely 5d is the kaioshin's time ring which they are forbidden from doing. For 5d contains timelines, this done automatically mean that the verse has inf timelines are prove a character can destory a universe. With your logic king kai should be multiversal but he cant even beat first form frieza namek saga. Just because a keyword says dimension/higher dimension dont automatically makes him multiversal. Thats whats wrong with powerscalers these days.
@@Coldskin1 Mb I scaled it wrong. Here is a more proper scaling: The living world is 3D wich afterlife is stated to transcend proven by guidebooks and translators that speak fluent Japanese. Making afterlife 4D. Since the macrocosm contains a 4D object we can scale the macrocosm to 4D too. Considering the neutral zone transcends spacetime of the macrocosm it is scaled to 5D. Base Goku scales to 4D while UI Goku scales to 5D.
@@nickhollowalso the afterlife is stated in a guide to transcend dimensions plural also in a guide for battle of gods the battle between beerus and goku is stated to be super dimensional or when gogeta vs broly clashed in ssj forms and goto transported to a higher dimensions which in the novel for dbs broly the higher dimension is a super dimensional realm
Can you make a Sailor Moon vs Rimuru video?? Like, I am a fan of both, but while imo Sailor Moon still win to Rimuru Ultimate Form, no one ever does deepdive analysis to proof me wrong (or right) except those yt shorts of "chara vs chara" where they just throw random stats & numbers lol
I have proof goku beats sailor moon is galaxy level not even complex muti tier and goku outer or higher goku > anti spiral > sailor moon + verse beyond neg diff
@IdkitzjushdcYou do know that tempest was womped by axiom and Lucifer on discord right and tempest perm abused him also it was on the sailor moon vs Goku debate
Sailor moon literally caps at universal Thats with the help of all the guard scouts in the galaxy. Not only that she died when restarted the universal Dont listen to this garbo fanfiction dimensional scaling. Its same way fanboys got goku above 7d without proving the size of the cosmology.
My question would be who would actually win in a fight because yes I get she can erase existence but if they're in a fight since they're both good people that's not what you would do to him I see a lot of debates on both sides and both sides be like oh Goku blitz because a sailor Moon blitz because B But I'm just actually curious on how the actual fight would go And how it would end
Well, based on character, Goku doesn't really do any instant death attacks tho he does Kamehameha and ki attacks while Usagi does use her tiara which turns villains to dust in character and can change the emotions of people in character but she has fought with and ended her friends and enemies when needed.
Sailor moon may not always be ready for a fight but her crystal is and would sense Gokus intention to hurt Sailor Moon and react before she even knew what was going on, then once hes caught by the Ginzuishou he would either be: cleansed and destroyed/made human, or it would send him away through time and space. It's kind of a cheat but Sailor Moon can't die unless she allows it basically, it took her ultimate villain killing everyone else in the universe and taking their crystals to even get close to her plus as the Messiah, she can and will resurrect everything/everyone. She's very broken in the magic department 😅 but Goku would definitely kick her ass in a physical fight with no powers
So basically No Powers H2H: Goku destroys Intelligence: Usagi destroys I think if Usagi had Goku or Vegeta's fighting skill and urge for fighting would be hella frightening
Thanks for bringing light into this topic im tired of telling my friends sailor moon doesn’t even require her friends to start dropping reset bombs upon the Multiverse
@@aquatheneptunewolf1115 Didn't say you did. But plenty of characters can beat her. Even Goku who SM and Saitama fans seem to hate so much, can beat her, especially early on.
@@RrRookiEeE sailor moon is immortal. She can't be killed, she can stop time and do a lot if things. He didn't dwell in all her hax and honestly she neg diff Goku without any effort. The only of destroying sailor moon is destroying her as a concept.
@@narasnek Goku spars with gods and immortal beings for a morning stretch routine. Had the power to delete the soul of infinite & immortal merged zamasu. Surpassed the laws of time with his battle with Hit Is trillions of times stronger the DBZ Vegito, who faced reality warping and still beat the crap out his opponent. She would do all her magic princessy stuff and all that will be childs play for Goku.
@Tempest1018 Okay bro, as an ardent fan of both series, let me explain "the Honest Truth". While I believe Sailor Moon does indeed win by a landslide, you both lowballed Goku and highballed Sailor Moon in many feats. One such example is Sailor Mercury. She did not make another dimension. She made a pocket dimension. Why? Because imagine building a pillow fort in your living room and then play fighting in it. Same concept. So I commend your efforts, but Ill make a video myself in the future fixing your mistakes from both videos. Thank you for your time.
nice video bro i loved it, you low balled canon goku a lot but still canon Goku isnt even the 100th strongest in his verse dbs. the sailor moon could beat him but not destroy him lol if she distroyed the microcosm its still the size a universe 7 microcosm which is infinite in size goku will even laughing in the end of the fight of how powerfull she is. but those saying she will solo the dbs verse is just not true lol. goku at the manga currently is outerversal. he got one taped by freiza.
Pretty sure there was no statement that claimed Jiren was stronger than all the gods of destruction and it was possibly meant that he’s stronger than his we don’t know how he scales to others. Goku is still not stronger than beerus and Jiren is not stronger than beerus either.
Man u haven't removed the downplay on goku or db verse u could go go watch atari HMB . And get his line of scaling. If the movies are considered other time lines , this means all these dimensions from all the movies also considered present in everytime line. Next , if the macrocusm is bigger than the subspace which transcend time and space, and goku could one shot macrocosm and the neutral zone is infinitely exspandsive and infine zamatsu could most definitely destroy it as he encmpassed all and especially with power cliffing he definitely can , and jiren and goku are leagues and bounds above him man . Literally man Goku would stomp.
@@ngosongjr1908na Goku is around Infinite 7d or 8d He is above Macrocasm Kaioshin realm Enma realm Void Swirling light 10d is too Farfetch for now But he is closing up though I believe after couple arcs he will reach 10 d May be even surpass it
@@ngosongjr1908 The subspace doesn't transcend time and space. It just has no concept of time and space. And I can say the same thing in Sailor Moon also where the verse is beyond time and space that's not in the 3rd dimension which has more context of it beyond mathematical dimension. The corridor of space-time also is similar to subspace where it is between time and space with no concept of time, distance, direction.
@@shia8938 you trying to twist facts , plus there is all the arale scaling which i haven't included in all I just said so man Goku is far more powerful than that crappy scaling . Goku surpasses arale with all her insane feats man stop this downplay . This guy just taking everything in sailor moon out of context
😅 I am glad that now you didn't downplay goku this time even though you didn't mention infinite zamasu i don't car if goku win or not just a fair scalling good job man
Technically, Sailor Moon's power comes from the sacred inner sanctum of the Moon Palace or Silver Crystal/Millennium Crystal/Silver Moon Crystal So it's not fair to fight with a power that's not coming from herself. So goku would wipe the shit outta her or give both of them Silver Moon cristan and goku also would win. Or he need to despey it and also win the fight.
No her silver crystal is her star seed or as in dumbified her literal soul. Every sailor soldier has a star seed that belongs to them and can only be fully used by them since it’s literally their own soul, i recommend you read the sailor moon manga and actually pay attention because that power actually belongs to her and not a palace.
I don't actually think we know the extend of dragon ball universe but i do agree sailor moon win just saying i think you're wrong about the universe because we haven't really seen the other universe and there isn't really a lot of world building yet in the manga there is but just a little bit not a lot of world building in the anime zero no world building at all maybe like two or three times where they build the universe or world
I Honestly think it all falls & Depends on their Personality and how they Think !!! During battle I can see both big brains ! But one has to be bigger 🥴😉
Bro this just proves u didn’t watch heroes capsule corp Goku beat Zeno goku and tanked an attack that is stated to transcend reality and can destroy the real world in base form and it is even proven that he is stronger than arale a Character that can jump out off the manga panel roll it up and jump into another chapter and can even enter the real world and interact with toriyama also it’s canon for those who say it isn’t cc goku and zeno goku were made canon
And i was still downplaying and lowballing sailor moon lol, join the discord for the real scale.
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Edit* i do believe goku to have Inaccessible speeds due to him being able to move in the void zeno had created when he killed zamasu’s timeline HOWEVER i do not think that goku has irrelevant speeds since he does not transcend the concepts of space and time.
Could you do a Tanjiro verses Match up
Hey can you put xeno Goku or cc Goku against sailor moon this should be closed
You are downplaying Goku he has irrelevant speed you didn't study DBZ very well
Sailor moon is a kids show
@@madiharehman5214 bro seriously? Dragon ball is literally aimed for young boys. Why do you think it's called a shounen for a reason?
Goku is 6D in base
Usagi is literally that person you shouldn't underestimate and ignore in a fight, her looks hide a being that would destroy you in 4 seconds
I mean her looking that cute and casually being op? I would surrender immediately lol.
More like literally 0 seconds girl has Infinite speed 😭
@jag-hw7wd yea, if she serious or really bloodlusted, no one survives
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@@JustinCarbaugh Hmm 10 people that could neg her before she even can think to defend herself:
Anos
Anti Spiral
Featherine
LN Rimuru
Archie Sonic
Xeno Goku (from the game)
Hajun
Kumagawa (I might have butchered that)
Demigra
Enerjack
The feats sailor moon gets up are crazy. Glad you mentioned nehelenia. Like you said she lives in her own universe. Well, sailor moon destoyed it. She destroyed a universe. This alerted other beings including Sailor Galaxia to recognize Sailor Moon"s sovereignty.
Thats literally below bog arc goku lol
@@magickgeminid2944 actually what alerted galaxia was the awakening of eternal sailor moon and the fusion of every crystals power making her light travel across the universe allowing galaxia to find her
@aquatheneptunewolf1115 yes. Point is, sailor moons power is universal
@@magickgeminid2944 eternal sailor moons started lower and escalated whit each battle
Crying how do u watch thus video and think that is impressive
As a Goku fan i was just saying yeah go king when his feats came.
Then Usagi got me hand on mouth eyes closed knowing my goat gets clapped just like that.
Damn okay I didn’t know u downplayed Goku before. But I’m glad u take it into account the whole 5D meta of the other world. I just think is pretty consistent with multiple guides stating it transcends the living world
Also the macrocosm doesnt stop at 5d as superdimensions exists in dragon ball also garlic junior creates a hyperspace making it 7d and the kaishin realm looks down upon the afterlife and the living realm and can only be accesed via kai kai or instant transmission and exists outside the macrocosm making it 8d and the neutral zone and timeline beyond that so 9d to 10d at max without heroes or arale or outer metas
@@JadoBouhzam Yeah i had that thought too, if u high ball the macrocosm and timelines which contain the 12 macrocosms Goku could outscale Sailor moon
@@JadoBouhzamI didn’t know a hyperspace that has the properties of a black hole (light cant escape) somehow has 2+ dimensional transcendence that makes the macrocosm go from 5-7D even though his “ability” isn’t a realm in said macrocosm 😭😭
Dr Slump is apart of the Dragon Ball cosmology and you didn't add none of that also Heroes view DB as fiction and it's also apart of the cosmology and Goku in base scale bare minimum to 6 to 7D in base so when he turns into Mui then he would far out scale Sailor Moon I don't understand why you didn't add this. And the Hakai Lord Beerus destroy a ghost from Dr Slump that survive multiple narrative being completely destroyed and yet Goku was going to earse Zamusa who is literally infinitely greater than that Ghost that's beyond concepts and for Speed Goku is far beyond space and time considering Hit and Jiren plus Universe 7 in itself Goku is above all this.
@@JayJohnson-ls3eq dragonball heros is a game. Not the manga or anime. And dr slump is a whole separate series which again has no relation to the Main timeline of DB,DBZ,or DBS. ( this is not me saying its not canon to DB cause ik you dragonball fans cant read)
And just as I started Sailor Moon too, I’m never gonna live this down lowkey
@personahearts358 I totally hear you. She is just absolutely garbage in the beginning of her anime. She could literally lose to a street thug. Then she destroys literal ideas themselves... magical girls, am I right? 😆
@@Rekora_Wulf... That's the point. Sailor Moon was originally just a regular adolescent girl. And over time she develops into a magical girl warrior.
That's the whole idea... 🙄
@@seeleunit2000 I know that? I wasn't saying anything disrespectful. I was basically affirming how powerful the trope really is. Sailor Moon is unique among the magical girl trope, though.
Don't worry you alright because it's not true well the winner anyways. Goku absolutely stumps here Temp didn't even add Dr Slump, Beats/Dragon Ball Heroes Cosmology or any other thing like Dragon Quest which is also all apart the Dragon Ball cosmology base Goku in Super alone is 6 to 7D so when he Transform he would literally be infinitely greater than that level.
@@Rekora_Wulf BROO IJUST STARTED WATCHING IT
It nice to see the real and honest truth on who can this battle between Sailor Moon and Goku
I’ve even reacted to this video
You mean the cap
*ALMOST 30 MINUTES!!!!*
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I am honestly not surprised. I watched a UA-camr reacting to Death Battle's Goku vs. Superman, claiming Sailor Moon easily destroy both of them. And, honestly, to this day, I still believe him.
low iq goblino moment then. Superman scales into mid outer while sailor moon is at best low complex multi
Oh she'd eff up Superman with Rainbow Moon Heartache
@@crescentb3am I strongly agree with you. Superman is weak to magic after all.
Damn, she solos nearly all of Shonen Jump lol.
I wanna see Xeno Goku vs Sailor Moon next.
Xeno goku isn't real bro . . .
@@Weedweaver0doesn’t matter?💀
Not exactly the same as Shonen Jump but the entire Jump Force roster stomps.
@@Weedweaver0 My brother.. They're fictional they all aren't real 💀
@@BLAZE_EDTIZ Does that mean sailor moon could go ssg and save the world from devestation? to reunite within our nation
Usagi really is just like that.
Sailor Moon's power is control of concepts which, by definition, destroys plot armor.
Sailor Galaxia steals black Frieza's balls and keeps them at her lair lmao
@@millabasset1710 🤣
why is movie goku so goated 😭 its something about him that just gives me more heroic vibes than his anime and manga counterparts
You can just explain Sailor Moon inheriting the power of the Cauldron which erases concepts and erases things temporally (when Tuxedo Mask got erased in the cauldron his daughter Chibi Moon also got erased). You can also debunk the Hakai notion with Sailor Moon surviving inside of the Cauldron which I stated earlier that can erase concepts.
He knows, he just kept it simple.
It is the same as Goku he can also survive this in dbs Goku can survives the power of hakai in base which literary earse anything he can also survive in the lava.
@@madiharehman5214 No Hakai only erases Mind, Body, and Soul. It can't even erase Zamasu from all points in time so it already doesn't completely erased you temporally and it doesn't have any feats of erasing concepts even Sailor Galaxia can do it. And even without the Lambda power, Sailor Senshis has some regeneration that can work even when their body and soul is gone as demonstrated when Sailor Saturn awakened her powers where her body and soul perish but came back when her powers got awakened.
@@shia8938 no you don't understand it earse anything the fighting between Vegeta and topo he was using hakai where it touches it earse anything and what you are talking about zamasu it is story of time ring the time ring has the power to change any timeline Beerus already destroy zamasu in that universe but he has a time ring the time ring changes stories
@@madiharehman5214 It just erases the mind, body, and soul And like I said Sailor Moon can regenerate even without the Lambda power against those kind of erasure and the fact that she also existence erasure. Also no it cannot erase concepts so you're already wrong on that one.
That's what I said Beerus can't even temporally erase Zamasu which means the Cauldron erasure is much potent since it erases every version of you and even erasing anything existing that's dependent of you existing like when when Tuxedo Mask got erased her daughter also got erased.
Great video bro i am currently reading salior moon myself for entertainment and scaling
If you think Goku wins, it's because you didn't watch Sailor Moon. Period.
I wached and Read both and i still think is much closer than in his Video. Galaxy Cauldron is not the strong there is litterly not a singel hint that like he statet it is the many world interpretation. Even the scans he show just say ´´all possibilities´´ and this isnt waht the many world interpretation is. It must been above that wich is dont a singel scale for that.
But yea i mean you can go with it.
@tobi6168 even though I'm biased, all possibilities still is beyond Goku. He can't beat her unless she gets surprised. Which goku wouldn't do that.
@@Rekora_Wulf yea true. I didnt say Goku slaps but I think in much closer than in this video.
I know Sailer moon well caus it is my first Anime AND Manga and rly love the series.
At least im glad she gets the respect she deservs
Your slow
@@Zengito5 At least I'm not you, lol.
W vid and I thought SM verse ain't that deep scaling wise but you really opened my eyes more on this lmao.
But yeah she solos Goku fr (both goated OG protags tho)
Bro intentionally dissed Goku's feats
This is definitely the best video you ever made brodie
Love your vids man! Keep up the killer work!
Would love to see a 404 vs Goku one day, feel like that would be sick.
We already knew Goku was going to lose. I’m more interested in Xeno Goku vs Sailor Moon
So they could've even fight because sailor moon is just beyond goku's awareness of time.
@@inspectorbear9557 Yeah I know. I never really understood why this fight was ever debated. Sadly my glorious king loses.
Actually xeno goku he have 90% to win because dragon ball heros is more and more powerful then super @@pzychzero
@@abdullahalzubidi5890 cc Goku destroys her easily Xeno Goku can one shot zeno in his base form
Bro you say the true
He didn't even mention the dream dimension in SM. Dreams aren't just concepts in SM. They are planes of existence that each person visits when they sleep but can be trapped in. That's yet another plane of existence not even mentioned here.
Your right i watched that movie on Netflix
I think that they would be similar or even in power I'm not really knowledgeable on sailor Moon speed but I do know that she would most likely take hacks and abilities over Goku which are definitely career ending for him
Just kidding Goku loses thanks for not overhyping him like other people do
Sailor Moon on some SDBH shit bruh.
Simple? Is that what simple is? --I'm kidding. Wow, that was great. I'm glad YOU did the research, because my head would've exploded after the first few pages of dialogue. Tempest rules!
Ngl, Sailor Moon vs. Light Novel Rimuru Tempest would be a fairer fight than Goku vs. Sailor Moon 😅😂
Manga Usagi would still slam although to moderate difficulty
As a Dragon Ball fan, I always remind people to keep it humble. Cuz our Cosmology is a joke compared to some verses out there
dragon ball z is trash in general
No it isn't he is downplaying DBZ DBZ cosmology is much bigger than you think but people don't understand this
@@Dylan-qj8gjnot Z but super
Bro no he isn't. You guys just wank the shit out of it@@madiharehman5214
@@Dylan-qj8gj... Wow, you really want to agitate the DBZ fans... Nice knowing you
Honestly, Tempest, this video is really good.
Ngl I was turned off from the channel when I saw goku vs medaka was a video because I assumed it was in fact another goku glazer wasting time saying he wins a fight that he doesn’t and that isn’t one, that being said I randomly decided to watch the to sailor moon videos I’m actually impressed even with this more generous interpretation of goku and sailor being a bit downplayed these were really well done and hope to see that 3rd video , I’ll probably subscribe
Welcome back man
@@Tempest1018 Welcome to the Goku downplay channel!
So shes able to easily scale above an infinite amount of 8D/7D spaces, she should be hyperversal as shes able to easily upscale these. High 1-B involves destroying an infinite amount of universes that expand 6 or 5 dimensions, and that may bypass infinity. The galaxy cauldron should also be 8D since it transcends these spaces, and even higher since it may transcend dimensionality. And im not gonna repeat it but as you said shes 10D+
Also sailor moon is immune to erasure and will regenerate from it since shes able to survive the galaxy cauldrons destruction
Here comes the outer Goku and gokuversal fans
@divinepekora5896 it won't matter. Nothing even can touch a "Concept" or idea in the world of Dragonball. That doesn't exist.
@@Rekora_Wulf In DBH like even Base Goku can do this (Concept of space and time even Concept of evil and hate) but yea he isnt canon.
@tobi6168 Yeah, that Goku is way stronger.
@@tobi6168that is CC Goku right and fusion reborn Goku.
I think CC Goku is cannon to the anime
@@easy9003That's Dragon Ball Heroes which is in Beats world which is apart of Dragon Ball cosmology
You know. I'm still watching sailor moon but holy shit. I... just... i don't know what to think.
But what if we account for xeno Goku what then? Not trying to spark up a debate just a genuine question
An debate forsho much closer
If im being honest, dragonball heroes has so much weird shit it is not funny tbh
Xeno Goku wins for sure
my only question is, how much power is Beerus and Whis hiding?
Ok Here me out. Both these characters have died and comeback The difference is Goku always needed the dragon balls or some outside force. Sailor moon Has Also done that But through her own power After her death So it might be automatic. More then that tho i don't think goku would have the heart to keep fighting her. He enjoys the fight she doesn't
I do think that the infinite speed scaling for Goku is a bit wanky because yes is there a key in physical stats are one in the same but that kind of doesn't sound right, I'm not trying to downplay Goku but I'm not sure it's shaking an infinite realm accumulates to speed
I found an interview where toryama said sailor moon could beat goku in a fight
wsg my boy! happy 4th! while I think personally goku wins I gotta say the footage is fresh breath of air, and the editing is only getting better!. I would love to see a low end scaling and hear you talk about how destructive people like luffy, gojo, and sukuna are great vid.
What are your thoughts on one punch man chapter 201?
W video
what about sailor chaos vs zamasu Super & heroes idk just a video idea
I mean the galaxy cauldron is downplayed a lot like as in marvel
destroying a planet in higher dimensional space is better than destroying a planet in a 3-D scale
but that is because context is ignored
I wonder if Sailor Moon’s Silver Crystal is as powerful as Marvel’s Infinity Gems? The Silver Crystal gets as powerful as its user, so I can only imagine Sailor Cosmos with the Silver Crystal at its peak, she would be incredibly formidable.
No sailor moon died to galaxy couldron when she restarted the universe
Sailor Cosmo literally fled the future because chaos kept coming back
Silver crystal is only universal/cosmolgy caps at universe.
And no headcanon dimensional scaling gonna change that.
I would say the Silver Crystal is stronger, since it has infinite power and is a singular stone versus 5 of them needed. Plus it operates on your heart's strength, so it's literally cracked.
@@Coldskin1 Faxxxx, im curious how would u scale Goku
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Sailor Moon beated Goku in a Death Battle. The characters in Sailor Moon are really busted and have so many haxes. Only characters from Marvel/DC universe and the Archie Sonic comics would put up a decent fight against them.
*solos*
This proves Galaxia should have beaten Beerus in death battle
@@sonicthehedgehog1606 ong
Can you make vide who is strongger between Anos,rimuru and sailor moon
If usagi is underestimated against Goku, I'm certain Usagi would probably be stronger than anos and Rimuru cuz she's definitely underestimated by all of them
@@JustinCarbaugh Telle me you didnt read the light novel without telling me xD
@@tobi6168
Tell me you didn't read Sailor Moon and go to school to understand how to spell "tell" without telling me you didn't read Sailor Moon a d go to school fo understand how to spell "tell" XD
By the way u confused me u didnt mention anything about arale when bringing up goku who he scales to the same arale who is in fact canon to dragon ball and performed a feat of casually transcending her cosmology infinitly as she ripped her own manga page and was holding said manga page on the next page which the manga page shows her holding said manga page implying an infinite transcendence loop which is high hyperversal and beerus was a threat to thag arale who goku in fact scales to in the tournament of power also u didnt mention the subspace in dragon ball which is the space that contains the hyperbolic timeshamber which is stated to have no concepts of time and space also hakia works on a way higher level then previouslay as it was a danger to arale who can survive being a erases from the plot and the hakai was said to erase her from the plot completely implying it can work on people who can survive erasure on the narrative level which is nuts also goku does have immeasurable the whole stronger than ur opponent thinng is only in the manga the anime litrally states jiren transcends time itself as he was able to movie while time was being stopped on him and broke through hits time cage also in dragon ball power corelate to speed meaning the increases in power also increases the persons speed to what that power is capable so when a person in dragon ball transcends time it means he transcends both time in terms of dimensionality and speed so it means goku does have immeasurable speed also the battle between jiren and goku was litrally stated by the narrator to be superdimensional i dont see how sailor moon can even touch goku while he has ui also even u dont agrue hyper or outerversal goku does not cap at 6d since garlic junior litrally created a hyperspace which is 5d so its 7d than theres the neutral zone which is the space between universes that contain all the infinite sized macrocosms so that makes it 8d and then the timeline which contains everything from the neutral space to all the macrocosm which merged zamasu merged with and goku said if he had a senzu bean he could have stopped this merged zamasu and suppresed jiren from the tournament of power scales higher than this omnipresent merged zamasu sorry goku beats sailor moon also im confused why u cant rely on koyoma as toriyama litrally stated he trusts people who work on the show with the information of dragon ball more than himself and koyoma only said he doesnt have the final say since he was litrally being commented by the twitter dragon ball fans non stop and wanted to silence them out why would the guy who worked on mulitple dragon ball movies and episodes of dragon ball not be reliable but when a comic writed says something about a comic scan when it comes to a superheros power or cosmology its a valid u see the problem when it comes to power scaling scalers pick and choose what they think is valid or not ok koyoma may have had a bit of bias when it comes to the character of broly but that because its the character he created and he admitted it himself why would he make shit up about the dragon balls cosmology lol i definetly dont agree with this video love ur videos man but even here i felt goku was downplayed ur friend captain did a better job scaling goku in his xeno goku vs featherine video he brought up higher scaling for just canon goku who xeno goku scales above than what u gave him just saying
And the Fact that End of Z Goku is above all in his vers. That makes him beat arale and Zeno with like base form.
@@tobi6168 someone is speaking facts
Arale is a gag character. she can do anything as long as it's funny.
@ghoulchan7525 yeah and her gag abilities can be scaled not all gag characters are made equal and goku was relative to her during his fight against in super and yeah I dont think he could have beat her during her max at that point however it wasn't a one shot either and he would have given her a fight and guess who was way stronger than her beerus he was so strong that her gag abilities would have no affect on him and goku during the tournament of power in the anime surpassed beerus with mui and only grew stronger afterwards
Sailor moon won
bro are you and offical divine friends. you should do a video with him wow
easy way to solve any Goku related scaling argument:
Does the other person have to work out/train? If no then they beat Goku.
Thats a sorry method
What happened to Goku vs Superman?
Oh stop it aren't you are not bored
@@madiharehman5214 what?
Can they beat The Last Dragonborn from Skyrim?🤔🤔🤔🤔
Vergil and Dante being high 11 D:
HOLD OUR BEER
Now imagine MADOKA fighting Goku.
Request who wins: Paper Mario vs Goku
paper mario slams
Being faster than light literally breaks the laws of physics as far as space time and you wouldn’t experience time moving that fast so most light speed+ feats are already irrelevant speed and gives them time travel feats
Violating the law of causality is a time travel feat and it’s just how many multiple times faster than light someone is up until a point of instantaneous autonomous movement
Amazing🎉❤
Goku Vs Sailor Moon
Ahhh boy, some old images are resurfacing in my mind 😅
@@BaDik_Jacob Dragon Moon X lol
@lukejones7164 Bingo 😂🤣💀
Can she beat Superman tho I'm curious you should definitely make a Superman vs video
Her powers are magic so she does have an uper hand over the standart main superman
Ok. Frick it. John Egbert. Can he put down Serena?
Zamasu basically did the whole merge with multiple timelines while being from a 4d/5d future and was going to die to a goku that fought hit in the rematch essentially..not even top when goku gets infinitely stronger
The dragon ball universe has never been stated to be infinite, in fact we know it's not infinite because you can literally fly from one universe to another.
Average 12 year old
Mortal Realm is 3D Hell is 4D Heaven is at least inf 4d. Now the Cosmology can reach between 5-8D due to the dimensional scaling of the Kaioshin Realm and the Neutral Zone. Now, through the King Kai scan, it's stated that the Kaioshin Realm is at least 2 dimensions above Heaven, placing it at 6D. Now the Neutral Zone scales at least 1-2 dimensions above the highest dimension in the macrocosm, due to it being the void that seperates each of the universes in Universe 7.
Now, I'll talk in the sense that the Kaishin Realm is on the same dimensional leveling as Heaven. That puts U7 at least at 5-6D.
We can scale Goku at 6D low complex multiversal.
Also Goku negates her hax due to higher dimensionality, scaling and physical power.
And yes it is canon.
Head canon dimensional scaling.
Salior moon caps at universal dude was over hyping her With that head canon dimensional scaling bs.
That not how spatial dimensions work. Those are just fictional dimensions outside of the universe
Not only that afterlife\hell is literally the same size as the living realm.
U7 is only universe+
No way near over 1000 times universal.
Kaioshin realm and afterlife being above space and time been contridicted in super.
Dbs entire comsology keeps at low 5d at best and the cosmology no way near the size complex multiverse.
Vsbattles keep changing their terms and not an reliable source.
Their are alternate times of the kaioshin realm and afterlife.
The only thing remotely 5d is the kaioshin's time ring which they are forbidden from doing.
For 5d contains timelines, this done automatically mean that the verse has inf timelines are prove a character can destory a universe.
With your logic king kai should be multiversal but he cant even beat first form frieza namek saga.
Just because a keyword says dimension/higher dimension dont automatically makes him multiversal.
Thats whats wrong with powerscalers these days.
Goku low multiverse
And sailor moon universal with silver cystal
@@Coldskin1 Mb I scaled it wrong.
Here is a more proper scaling:
The living world is 3D wich afterlife is stated to transcend proven by guidebooks and translators that speak fluent Japanese. Making afterlife 4D.
Since the macrocosm contains a 4D object we can scale the macrocosm to 4D too. Considering the neutral zone transcends spacetime of the macrocosm it is scaled to 5D.
Base Goku scales to 4D while UI Goku scales to 5D.
@@nickhollowalso the afterlife is stated in a guide to transcend dimensions plural also in a guide for battle of gods the battle between beerus and goku is stated to be super dimensional or when gogeta vs broly clashed in ssj forms and goto transported to a higher dimensions which in the novel for dbs broly the higher dimension is a super dimensional realm
i love this video
Can you make a Sailor Moon vs Rimuru video??
Like, I am a fan of both, but while imo Sailor Moon still win to Rimuru Ultimate Form, no one ever does deepdive analysis to proof me wrong (or right) except those yt shorts of "chara vs chara" where they just throw random stats & numbers lol
Ngl Db fans are always Glazing for goku to win its crazy💀
@Idkitzjushdc fr
@Idkitzjushdc and worst part about that Is that now people are start say" Goku solo any verse" like it's so crazy bro
@Idkitzjushdc same I'm with U
I have proof goku beats sailor moon is galaxy level not even complex muti tier and goku outer or higher goku > anti spiral > sailor moon + verse beyond neg diff
@IdkitzjushdcYou do know that tempest was womped by axiom and Lucifer on discord right and tempest perm abused him also it was on the sailor moon vs Goku debate
ok, lets get serious:
Goku but all the things the gokutards say are canon vs sailor moon base+nerfed+5secs of life
spoiler: sailor wins XD
Sailor moon literally caps at universal
Thats with the help of all the guard scouts in the galaxy.
Not only that she died when restarted the universal
Dont listen to this garbo fanfiction dimensional scaling.
Its same way fanboys got goku above 7d without proving the size of the cosmology.
Hush bro debate with someone first
My question would be who would actually win in a fight because yes I get she can erase existence but if they're in a fight since they're both good people that's not what you would do to him I see a lot of debates on both sides and both sides be like oh Goku blitz because a sailor Moon blitz because B But I'm just actually curious on how the actual fight would go And how it would end
Well, based on character, Goku doesn't really do any instant death attacks tho he does Kamehameha and ki attacks while Usagi does use her tiara which turns villains to dust in character and can change the emotions of people in character but she has fought with and ended her friends and enemies when needed.
Sailor moon may not always be ready for a fight but her crystal is and would sense Gokus intention to hurt Sailor Moon and react before she even knew what was going on, then once hes caught by the Ginzuishou he would either be: cleansed and destroyed/made human, or it would send him away through time and space.
It's kind of a cheat but Sailor Moon can't die unless she allows it basically, it took her ultimate villain killing everyone else in the universe and taking their crystals to even get close to her plus as the Messiah, she can and will resurrect everything/everyone. She's very broken in the magic department 😅 but Goku would definitely kick her ass in a physical fight with no powers
So basically
No Powers H2H: Goku destroys
Intelligence: Usagi destroys
I think if Usagi had Goku or Vegeta's fighting skill and urge for fighting would be hella frightening
@@JustinCarbaugh if she did I'd be super on board lmao but yeah like you said hand 2 hand he wins, magic 2 magic she wins
Thanks for bringing light into this topic im tired of telling my friends sailor moon doesn’t even require her friends to start dropping reset bombs upon the Multiverse
SM still can be beaten
@@RrRookiEeE i dont recall saying she was unbeatable
@@aquatheneptunewolf1115 Didn't say you did. But plenty of characters can beat her. Even Goku who SM and Saitama fans seem to hate so much, can beat her, especially early on.
@@RrRookiEeE sailor moon is immortal. She can't be killed, she can stop time and do a lot if things. He didn't dwell in all her hax and honestly she neg diff Goku without any effort. The only of destroying sailor moon is destroying her as a concept.
@@narasnek Goku spars with gods and immortal beings for a morning stretch routine.
Had the power to delete the soul of infinite & immortal merged zamasu.
Surpassed the laws of time with his battle with Hit
Is trillions of times stronger the DBZ Vegito, who faced reality warping and still beat the crap out his opponent.
She would do all her magic princessy stuff and all that will be childs play for Goku.
@Tempest1018 Okay bro, as an ardent fan of both series, let me explain "the Honest Truth".
While I believe Sailor Moon does indeed win by a landslide, you both lowballed Goku and highballed Sailor Moon in many feats.
One such example is Sailor Mercury. She did not make another dimension. She made a pocket dimension. Why? Because imagine building a pillow fort in your living room and then play fighting in it. Same concept.
So I commend your efforts, but Ill make a video myself in the future fixing your mistakes from both videos. Thank you for your time.
But can she beat Superman?
Maybe
If Superman is weaken to Magic: Sailor Moon wins Low-Diff
If not: Sailor Moon still wins although Mid Difficulty
@@JustinCarbaugh Superman isn't weak to magic, he just doesn't have magic resistance.
He is, however, absurdly powerful and can grow stronger.
@@christopherbravo1813it wouldn’t matter. In a Superman fan. But he loses.
@@silverwolf-footmodeling Elaborate.
Star butterfly is literally new gen sailor moon
u ate this one
Nice vid
She solos
in her dreams
It’s hereeee
nice video bro i loved it, you low balled canon goku a lot but still canon Goku isnt even the 100th strongest in his verse dbs. the sailor moon could beat him but not destroy him lol if she distroyed the microcosm its still the size a universe 7 microcosm which is infinite in size goku will even laughing in the end of the fight of how powerfull she is. but those saying she will solo the dbs verse is just not true lol. goku at the manga currently is outerversal. he got one taped by freiza.
goku isnt 6-d. hes only 4-d low multiversal
We could debate Goku is 11d midball
I didn't watch Sailor Moon and I'm an OG DBZ fan,
but after that, I didn't know that Sailor Moon was that OP.
He glazed SM, but even moreso downplayed Goku
I grew up watching both 🥰
goku on top all day everyday
But does she beat Superman tho?
No
😹🍻
Superman maybe Batman probably not
Against Superman: Likely, she probably has a win rate of 89% against him out of 100%
@@JustinCarbaugh 0 out of 100% she can only dream of beating Superman in a fight what are you on?
Pretty sure there was no statement that claimed Jiren was stronger than all the gods of destruction and it was possibly meant that he’s stronger than his we don’t know how he scales to others. Goku is still not stronger than beerus and Jiren is not stronger than beerus either.
Hey tempest are you doing a super man video
I love sailor moon and goku but eternal sailor moon is a galactic force to be reckoned with
Man u haven't removed the downplay on goku or db verse u could go go watch atari HMB . And get his line of scaling. If the movies are considered other time lines , this means all these dimensions from all the movies also considered present in everytime line.
Next , if the macrocusm is bigger than the subspace which transcend time and space, and goku could one shot macrocosm and the neutral zone is infinitely exspandsive and infine zamatsu could most definitely destroy it as he encmpassed all and especially with power cliffing he definitely can , and jiren and goku are leagues and bounds above him man . Literally man Goku would stomp.
Bro someone finally with comon sense is speaking the cosmology does not cap at 6d it can reach 8d to 10d without arale or outerversal metas
@@JadoBouhzam fact man Goku as of now stands at at least 10D. And he can be scaled even higher.
@@ngosongjr1908na
Goku is around
Infinite 7d or 8d
He is above
Macrocasm
Kaioshin realm
Enma realm
Void
Swirling light
10d is too Farfetch for now
But he is closing up though I believe after couple arcs he will reach 10 d
May be even surpass it
@@ngosongjr1908 The subspace doesn't transcend time and space. It just has no concept of time and space. And I can say the same thing in Sailor Moon also where the verse is beyond time and space that's not in the 3rd dimension which has more context of it beyond mathematical dimension.
The corridor of space-time also is similar to subspace where it is between time and space with no concept of time, distance, direction.
@@shia8938 you trying to twist facts , plus there is all the arale scaling which i haven't included in all I just said so man Goku is far more powerful than that crappy scaling .
Goku surpasses arale with all her insane feats man stop this downplay .
This guy just taking everything in sailor moon out of context
Skills and abilities: expert in hand to hand combat and martial arts expert and mind ,body and soul eraser resistance by ki and power increase
Well this was interesting
😅 I am glad that now you didn't downplay goku this time even though you didn't mention infinite zamasu i don't car if goku win or not just a fair scalling good job man
He STILL downplayed Goku
@RrRookiEeE i mean it's better than those guy's who downplay goku to 4d
Technically, Sailor Moon's power comes from the sacred inner sanctum of the Moon Palace or Silver Crystal/Millennium Crystal/Silver Moon Crystal
So it's not fair to fight with a power that's not coming from herself. So goku would wipe the shit outta her or give both of them Silver Moon cristan and goku also would win. Or he need to despey it and also win the fight.
No her silver crystal is her star seed or as in dumbified her literal soul. Every sailor soldier has a star seed that belongs to them and can only be fully used by them since it’s literally their own soul, i recommend you read the sailor moon manga and actually pay attention because that power actually belongs to her and not a palace.
@akataru9424 Tell me, witch chapter can I find this? Because I've never read that.
@@Kingsman-lz5qs Manga sailor moon stars arc chapter 54, literally every sailor soilder has their own sailor crystal.
I have heard high outer for salior moon
😉
Does he know
Nah bro this was a 🔥 vid bro
sailor moon could literally be a God of destruction in dbs wow
Usagi would have a fair fight against zeno, she would still win thou 😂
I don't actually think we know the extend of dragon ball universe but i do agree sailor moon win just saying i think you're wrong about the universe because we haven't really seen the other universe and there isn't really a lot of world building yet in the manga there is but just a little bit not a lot of world building in the anime zero no world building at all maybe like two or three times where they build the universe or world
I Honestly think it all falls & Depends on their Personality and how they Think !!! During battle I can see both big brains ! But one has to be bigger 🥴😉
Wish you would do hoku vs avatar korra
Man... what's next.
Spongebob vs Goku?
Or how about
Super Grover 2.0 vs Goku?
Spongebob claps DBS Goku
@@tobi6168 only if it's funny.
@@ghoulchan7525SpongeBob can legit be argued to be complex multiversal
6D goku yeah youre normal thank GOD but dont ya think u could starrt the 6D convo in the buu saga
As a db fan from childhood Goku has never stood a chance against usagi.
Bro this just proves u didn’t watch heroes capsule corp Goku beat Zeno goku and tanked an attack that is stated to transcend reality and can destroy the real world in base form and it is even proven that he is stronger than arale a Character that can jump out off the manga panel roll it up and jump into another chapter and can even enter the real world and interact with toriyama also it’s canon for those who say it isn’t cc goku and zeno goku were made canon
Sailor Moon is the better character and she doesn't heal her villians and not as dumb as Super Goku.
@@SailorStarHero sailor moon is also not very intelligent ok
Bro waht xD Sailor Moon is not a better character. She isnt even Top 10 in her own Verse. Hell nahh even Sailor Galaxia is like 10 times better.
@@tobi6168 thank you for answering him
@@tobi6168 Sailor Galaxia has no character so I don't even know what are you saying lol
I now need saint saiya content