CZ's Embarrassing Volkspistoles: The CZ100 and CZ101
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Developed in the 1990s and entering production in 1996, the CZ100 and CZ101 were CZ's first polymer-framed pistols. They were offered in both 9mm and .40S&W, with the CZ100 being a double stack design (magazine capacity 10 or 13 rounds) and the CZ101 being single stack (magazine capacity 7 or 8 rounds). Interestingly, the .40 caliber model included a ported barrel/slide from the factory.
The design intent was to create an inexpensive, very simple personal defense pistol - a sort of volkspistole if you will. In order to do this, there are a lot of polymer parts, like the rear sight and striker spring guide rod. The frame itself is polymer, without any metal reinforcement of the slide rails (although there is a metal insert for the locking cam to act on). In fact the polymer used isn't even a glass-reinforced one. CZ says that there was no undue wear after 15,000 rounds, but this design didn't inspire a lot of commercial confidence.
While the design is generally done to be very cheap, the striker involved an unusual locking block mounted on top of the slide, which is surprisingly complex to disassemble, and includes several very small parts and springs. The trigger is a double action one, with a very long pull and reset. This negates the need for a manual or trigger safety, but is not suited to precise shooting. A DA/SA style version (the CZ110) was release in 2000, but failed to become any more popular than the 100 and 101.
Ultimately, the pistols were disappointing form a commercial perspective. Production ended in 2007 after right about ten years, with a total of about 35,000 examples made including both calibers and all three models. CZ doesn't really like to talk about these pistol, but they used the experience to help develop the P10, which has been a far more successful and highly-regarded polymer-framed design.
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Can you imagine Chevrolet inviting someone to their headquarters to talk about the Vega? Major props to CZ for allowing a critical review of what was an essentially failed design.
Forget the Vega, how about the Volt?
@@loquat44-40 I've assembled sprung components inside a gallon sized food storage bag on more than one occasion.
Or Corvair!
Or the Cruze
@@loquat44-40 I've done disassembly under a blanket with a headlamp (and safety glasses) on for this very reason.
Just about died laughing when the striker spring went flying across the room. I feel that pain.
Imaging taking that apart at night in the mud and rain with no light. Lol
@@johnruddick686 That's nothing compared to that tiny plug-thing. Every gun would need to ship with like 20 replacements of that.
That said, pretty sure no one ever would be field-stripping one of these in the mud and rain. It's a self-defense pistol, not an infantry rifle.
@@Bacteriophagebs true but it would be positively shit as a service pistol
That's why I love captive springs.
Great way to lose an eye
I remember when I first met this gun live: it was around 2000 in a Prague indoor shooting range (Avim; still operational). I was shooting one of my guns and next to me was some gentleman in a suit, shooting at full size paper figure target at approximately five to seven meters, not more. I didn't pay much attention to him until the moment when he came to me, apparently very unhappy and frustrated, and told me that he had a new gun, his first, and that it might be broken because it couldn't hit the target no matter what. And asked me to look at it and help him, if I could. The gun was, of course, CZ-100, which until then I only knew from a gun magazine (Střelecká revue probably).
I looked at his target and indeed it was quite virgin. 🙂 So with his permission I took his gun and tried couple shots. The trigger was long and heavy as hell-you could start pulling and someone would build a camp fire, prepare lunch and serve it before you were done pulling-however as long as you kept the gun properly aimed whilst pulling it, it did shoot exactly where you wanted. So I asked him to try it again and watched him, and sure enough, the long and heavy trigger made him-a novice as he was-to squeeze the gun before it eventually fired so firmly that all the bullets went deep bellow his target, even at this close range. Not a very novice-friendly gun, but perhaps an excellent trigger-control training tool.
Considering how complicated disassembly of the striker mechanism is, it probably shouldn't be taken apart.
I was saying to myself, “that’s gonna launch if you don’t cover the hole” and then SpRoInG!
Sorry, Ian, I couldn’t help myself laughing
I dont imagine 99.9% of us will ever have opportunity to make that decision. 😂
@@comiketiger considering how few of these pistols were made, I would agree.
I’d like to hear more about the embarrassing history of the S&W Sigma.
At least S&W kinda redeemed themselves with the newer “sigmas”. The SD series is an awesome gun, and extremely affordable.
I have owned 4 of them, all worked fine.
Sugma balls lol
@@marcusmaddenov2451 then why did you buy 4?
I'm afraid it's mostly political/juridic mess. The pistol iteself was fine, and they even sold some decent amount. Not a glock-like success, but still.
10:17 Having the firing pin jammed forward sounds like the recipe for a runaway open-bolt machine pistol.
I was about to write that too.
"Should we fix that?""no.....no just leave it..... "
That sounds like a feature, not a bug.
"I just try to fire once and it magdumps at the guy
13/9mm, would self-defence again"
@@347Jimmy ^ people who don't fire their ccws before needing them
My friend's CZ100 was the first pistol I ever shot. The trigger was super long and heavy. I didn't know any better though. I thought that's just how pistols are.
Great thing from CZ to invite you and aswell give you the chance to present their failed designs and not just their great ones
Parts furnished by Fiddly Little Bits Ltd. Their motto: "Good luck finding that on the other side of the room."
Great demonstration on the striker spring sending the striker flying across the room 😄 If it can happen to you, it can happen to anyone!
Two weapons in one
Weird how a supposedly cheap pistol is one of the harder ones to wrap my head around, and I've watched the G11 video.
I think it's *because* it's a cheap pistol; they put cost of manufacture above ease of disassembly. Exhibit 2 - the Hi-Point:
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@@smorrow I think that was only a cheap pistol by H&K standards.
I think the CZ .22 LR "Kadet" system deserves a future video at some point. It's a really smart design in my opinion.
Also the SIG P220 and P226 Classic 22 models. A million times better than the Mosquito, and can be easily converted to full calibre, often for cheaper than buying a normal P220 or P226.
I've got a Kadet slide for my P01. Really great to be able to fairly quickly swap between 9mm and .22 on the same grip and same trigger for training or plinking. I think they've been discontinued, which is a shame
Nice of Ian to demonstrate the striker flying across the room.
This piece was burned into memory from the 1995 film Ghost in the Shell.
Whenever I see spring-loaded disassembly like the one at 8:41 I always remember the hard learned advice I got to always disassemble (or disarm in some cases, those suckers can poke your eye out, kids ;) ) those situations inside a plastic bag. I have a friend that lost a spring to a sight the night before a morning competition, he also had some words to say regarding carpets :D
I discovered this handgun in the Ghost in the Shell (1995) film, it did look a little futuristic and the barrel stop in my mind might have been an optic in the context of the cyberpunk world. It would be cool to find one in the US just to collect it.
What's true for the group is also true for the individual. It's simple: overspecialize, and you breed in weakness. It's slow death
Same reason I'm here.
I have one of these. They actually make a great tune-up gun. Custom stippling the frame makes both an attractive and good grip. And; while the double action is always there, it's possible to tune it up so that it works much like a heavy 2 stage. But my favorite thing about it is just how unique it is. It has some interesting innovations that i haven't seen anywhere else.
Thanks to this CZ series of videos I now have the name and pronounciation of their main factory added to my brain forever. Thanks for the vids!
Now that's a good old fashioned gun, simple point and click interface
8:43 Ian McCollum, weaponizing springs in 2022, that 7.65 French long ammo must be getting difficult to get.
I shot one of these many years ago. Neither great nor bad, long heavy trigger, but pretty accurate. It was intended as a "postman" gun, not for fun or competition, so no controls, just point and shoot as said in the video.
I can't wait to see Ian do a BUG competition with the CZ striker pin
I’m really happy you finally got to do a video on the 100/101/110. When I was in high school I read about them in a gun book and thought they were really cool. They were what introduced me to CZ and have always had a special place in my heart for that.
Interesting choice to cover in a video, the original Ghost in the Shell movie has put the 100 at the top of my firearms collectible list. So I appreciate being able see a practical strip down of the gun.
that's where I first learned about it too, always wanted to hear Ian talk about them given the reputation.
What's true for the group is also true for the individual. It's simple: overspecialize, and you breed in weakness. It's slow death
Just picked up the 40cal.
Happy to see a thorough disassembly and historical place in CZ's arsenal. Might make for a great collector piece
I don't think it was the intent but I wouldn't be surprised if that "belt racker" part could have been used for aftermarket optics rails (take it out and install a pic rail in the slot), no idea if it would hold zero but would be a cool way to slap on a small red dot
I think that's the first time I've seen a spring go "sproing" for Ian, on camera.
Agreed. I certainly don't remember seeing it before now!
This is the earliest I have ever been to a Forgotten Weapons upload! Stoked!
that is the Ghost in the Shell gun!
Fun fact: the issues with the CZ100 were fixed with the CZ110, which was a SA/DA with a manual decocker. It was never distributed in the US.
He mentioned that.
Ironic how they gave us the shit versions but not the good one
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@@grzegorzbrzeczyszykiewic3338 I had a 110, still a shit pistol...
@@Nave4x4 man I thought I'd be the only cool guy in the comment section that had a 110. I hated mine too. I bought mine in Israel and had it brought into the US. Took me almost 6 months.
Not worth the time or money.
I grew up referring to the spring that flies across the room as a Jesus spring, named for the utterance upon activation. So now we have a demonstration of an actual Gun Jesus spring.
I call it a "sproing" because of the sound it makes as it flies across the room.
Had my SVT-40 recoil spring do that to me.
Oh, I could go on about this. Had one for about 5 years, back in the low 2000s. CZ-USA doesn't even have anything at all on its site about it now. The US version had an adjustable rear sight, dovetail not compatible with the fixed sights.
And yes, the striker spring and guide went twang!! the first time I disassembled it. Never did find the spring guide.
Mine broke too much, and was never all that reliable. Never got off probation, so down the road it went.
Ian + CZ is a good video to see!
I still have one of these my grandfather passed down to me. Probably my least favorite pistol that I own. Hasn't been shot for probably 15 years or more.
That complete striker assembly is needlessly complicated and there's a LOT of parts that can easily get lost. This combination of complexity and crappy trigger clearly made it suffer from "Just get a Glock" syndrome back in those days. 😋
I still have that syndrome today since I can never seem to actually get my Glock to malfunction when clean and properly oiled. Which is the point.
@@rezlogan4787 took me a while to get around to Glock love, but once I got a suppressor, I REALLY appreciated the simplicity!
Firing pin muzzle velocity exceeds expansion threshold at 8:42
ROFLMAO!!
Please Ian. Do that video on the cz 110. Very interesting! Thanks for all the work you put into these
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With all of those tiny parts and springs, it's a good thing that CZ didn't offer it as a service pistol.
Possibly for sabotaging the Elbonian resistance.
I won a cz100 in 9mm for like $5 and traded it in a few months later. Striker spring was so weak that it would just have light strikes every round. Pulling the trigger 20+ times to shoot 10 rounds was annoying. Got good at not anticipating recoil tho. Guy i sold it to slammed a cz75 mag in and it did work lol
@@LIONTAMER3D aint that the truth lol
I am glad I am not the only one who collects erroneously launched springs from the other side of the room.
I owned one of these a long time ago. The CZ110. I recall the long pull but still found it OK to shoot being able to hit man sized targets at 50 meters not being a pro. Easy to maintain and carry.
As a CZ fanboy, it's interesting to know that not everything that the company did was flawlessly executed.
@Dartgame 340 Figure of speech
@Dartgame 340 fan-zer
@Dartgame 340 ...What else would he call himself? Fanman?
@Dartgame 340 English isn't your first language, is it?
Gotta admit that my CZ75 is my baby. DA trigger if you're weird or get a light strike, otherwise it's SA all the time.
I will be buried with that gun.
I had a cz100 back in 07ish, and I remember telling people you needed to bring a friend with you and get a running start to pull the trigger.
These pistols must be a pain to re-assemble, with all those small parts under spring tension held in place by other parts that need two hands to position properly. I'm sure that's one of the reasons these guns did not sell - you wouldn't want to field strip them anywhere it was dark or dirty, where small parts could be easily lost (like the striker spring and guide rod).
???? Do you know the difference between an field strip and a disassembly?
The field strip isn't any more complex than any other pistol. How often do you disassemble the slide of your other pistols? That's not something you do for cleaning.
Have only seen two of these and both back in the day. Lots of questions about the middle sight. We were porting guns in a similar fashion, so it was fun to see a major manufacturer doing the same.
The CZ 100 pistol is one of my favourites. Not because its a particularly good pistol. Just because it was featured in the original Ghost in the Shell film and looked cool.
Oh, that's where I've seen it before! Arigato!
Now we just need Ian to cover the Mateba revolver.
Thank you , Ian .
🐺
Ian becareful of the stricker spring it is extra long... yeh like that as it goes across the room.
Aesthetically, I quite like the look of these guns, particularly the 100 in .40 S&W. The grip and frame are pretty generic polymer pistol, but I like the slide a lot. The overall shape, with the sloped back and sides, the two bands of grooves ahead of and behind the extractor, the contrast of the shiny inner parts in the extractor gap against the dull gunmetal grey slide body, it's all quite satisfying to look at. It gives a kind of rugged, functional impression which is unfortunately completely at odds with the gun's actual function. I even like the barrel stop / belt racking bit behind the extractor, just as a bit of extra detail that breaks up the smooth top of the slide. It's the sort of thing that would look good as one of those random bits tacked on a videogame pistol for looks with no regard for the real-world functionality.
Respect for keeping in the spring flying across the room
Many years ago, in the 90s, I had a West German Perfecta FBI 8000 gas pistol, its striker spring was removed in a similar way. The first time I took it out it catapulted across the room and under the closet, it took me quite a while to get it out with a ruler. A couple of years ago I watched a video where the owner did this part of the disassembly procedure by placing the gun in a plastic bag to prevent the spring from flying away.Good idea, why didn’t I think of it myself. )
I've watched quite a lot of Ians videos, heard him talk about springs flying across the room multiple times, but I've never seen it actually happen to him. I am very satisfied now.
Ian: takes off spring retainer.
spring and guide rod: bolt out the opening like a dog and an open door.
There are a couple of 3-d printed pistol designs that integrate a plastic slide rail as one piece with the frame. One of them is a printed version of the Beretta 92. Most good 3-d gun file designers put their prints through several hundred or thousands of rounds before they release them to the general public. So far, so good..
Thanks for this one. NIce to finally see something I own get the treatment. The CZ100 was one of my first US pistols, ran for well over 8000 rounds ( CCI was < 4.99 a box after all) prior to having any issues . During that time the trigger had graduated from ____ awful to merely awful. The trigger was painful after a couple of boxes regardless It was accurate, carried well and I still take it out occasionally but it's days as a carry were over the moment the 75 compact came back in stock.
CZ has come a long way. I'll give them that.
A more prominent pistol which only uses polymer guide rails is the Ruger p-95, and nobody ever accused those things of not being durable.
Damn, Ian is getting bolder with handling these small parts. My girlfriend would be jealous.
Very interesting and informative, as always. Thanks, Ian !
That's the first time I see this famous flying-across-the-room feature, pretty neat.
I had one of these in .40 sw a few years ago. Bought it cheap for something like $250. It was too light for such a caliber. I'm not recoil shy but it was so violent I just sold it off after a couple range sessions
I really like the idea of using one magazine for both calibres, and getting around capacity restrictions. I know Glock and other companies do .40 and .357 SIG magazines, but are there any other manufacturers doing 9mm and .40 magazines? I wish that was more common.
I think the HK P7M13/M10 magazine was the same way.
Astra A70 and A75 pistols used a 9mm or 40 magazine, but not interchangeable between the two models.
Although I am sure they don’t market it as such, my Springfield XDM .40 magazines feed 9mm just fine with the aftermarket Bar-Sto barrel.
@@loquat44-40 not sure why they would be, the rounds are the same size up to the neck.
@@loquat44-40 huh. Did not know that.
Still seems weird, but maybe the .357sig nosedives or something weird.
Just came on my lunch break, glad this was posted 30 secs ago!
My first pistol was a CZ110. I never thought that a trigger that only shows in nightmares was possible in real life... Boy I was wrong...
I hear you. I had a CZ100, and that trigger is so bad, it was definitely cursed. The big plus of having owned a CZ100 is that if you're semi-competent with it, any other pistol is super easy to shoot.
Shit, I've had that nightmare so often.
Putting that pistol back together looks like a nightmare
I have a CZ110, which is DA/SA and is totally reliable after more than 4000 rounds through it. I replaced with it my previous gun - SW M&P, which was less reliable. The trigger is perfectly OK.
Kind of lives up to the premise of “have a gun!” Much better than not having one.
Love the sproing!
The Ruger P95, which came out at the same time, does not have any metal reinforcement for its guide rods. These, like the CZ pistols shown here, are molded with the frame. They are not full length. I have one of these and have had no issues. I have also not seen any issues with the gun from other sources.
The Ruger p95 and the Security-9 both have full-length polymer rails so that doesn't bother me even a little.
Ruger P95 has fiberglass reinforced polymer rails... the slide basically rides on the glass in the polymer.
Mine is 26 years old, still runs great and no discernable wear on the pistol.
Jeff, loved the P95’s! Had the decock-only and DAO variants, as well as a P93 DAO. Unfortunately had to sell them all off, but at least they went to good homes.
@@BlackCloud0351 I only wish I had snagged the P97 45 acp version also.
Truly forgotten guns for many of us. :)
I did not know the CZ100 was supposed to be a budget. I always assume it was a failed, first foray into polymer striker-fired guns. I recall the trigger pull being awful. I never ran across a single stack version.
When the CZ100 came out I nearly had an aneurism of excitement, until I felt the trigger. Left the shop without.
at least they look a lot better aesthetically than a lot of modern polymer/striker pistols.
thank you for the content this morning as well, ian :)
All the bats in my block flew away when he pulled that trigger.
We bought some of these to supply Armed guards who were looking for something cheap and cheerful and not too complicated to replace their ancient .32 long colts. They were not too successful , as here in the Caribbean if you look at them too hard the barrels would rust and they required constant cleaning . Strangely they were quite accurate once you mastered the Bullworker trigger , and as long as the target stood still !
damn if this was posted 7 AM EST I would've got paid to watch this
So many cost cutting measures that the resulting gun was one that most people didn't want.
If the heavy and deliberate DAO trigger system is kept in mind. One will be constantly reminded that the CZ100 is not intended as a target pistol. It is strictly intended as a defensive weapon. I have a 1998 vintage CZ100 in 40 S&W, and I rather like and enjoy shooting it in defensive drills. If I want to target shoot, I have numerous other pistols more suited to that task.
Ian- no mention of the proprietary rail? In the US, we kept on waiting for weapon lights, but I've never seen one.
I remember these being available back when I first got into guns. A lot of retailers had them on clearance and nobody was interested in them at the time. I bought a CZ-75BD as my first pistol. Not as rare as the CZ100, but ultimately a much better firearm.
Ghost in the Shell popularized the Mateba. They were quick to forget that this is what Kusanagi carried.
The little round plug and wedge on the inside end of the striker spring is to stop the striker spring from pressing the striker all the way forward all the time, causing the striker to protrude. Most striker systems have something similar but also most striker systems are at least partially cocked during feeding and locking so the striker is pulled back to some degree behind some kind of striker block that also doubles as a drop safety. Once the striker is behind a striker block it should be fine. Since this only pulls the striker back when the trigger is pulled they require the spring at the front of the striker to push it behind where the striker block can reset. If the striker does not spring back in this system then, when you drop the slide, even with the wedge, the striker is still relatively free to move forward under inertia and possibly fire the round without pulling the trigger. They could have done away with the wedge and spring in the front just by having the striker be partially pulled back during cycling like most striker fired pistols, resulting in an easier, simpler, and more functional design. Looks good otherwise.
"most dangerous" gun idea. make a trigger that has an incredibly light sear but an insanely long take up and reset. but design it to randomly change both where the trigger resets and where it fires on the super long pull. so every time you shoot it the gun fires at different times, resets at different spots and constantly annoys with the shooter.
Did they sell a kit of replacement springs for people who fumbled disassembly?
8:45 - FINALLY!!! After hearing him say that same phrase DOZENS of times, I now know it is actually true! I've been waiting for this moment for literal years.
Hurricane Ian on his whirlwind tour of the CZ Vault.
Title should be "CZ makes a Saturday night special and succeeds (by failing)".
Have one and it’s been a good shooter for a little over 3k rounds. Yes, it has a staple gun trigger but breaks at a consistent 8.5 pounds, and isn’t all that bad if you have revolver / DAO pistol experience. It’s nowhere near as bad as the HK VP70 or Sigma trigger! 😂
But yeah, it’s definitely nowhere near as good as the triggers on other (true) DAO setups like the Beretta 92D/96D, Walther P99 DAO, Ruger LCR, etc.
8.5 pounds isn't bad at all. I remember the DA triggers on Taurus' Beretta clone, the PT92, used to routinely come in at about 14 pounds. Back in the 80s 11-12 pounds was considered quite good for a factory DA trigger. The VP70 and the C.O.P. four barreled .357, though, THOSE were bad triggers.
@@waterbeauty85 very true! Funny thing is, any time that one of my friends would start talking about how good they could shoot whatever pistol, I would hand them one of my above mentioned DAO’s. Most of them did not grow up shooting revolvers and/or carrying stuff with long, heavy triggers, and it shows at the range. Even at a measly 10-15 yards it looks like they were shooting the target with a shotgun LOL.
Wow. Needs a few more springs.
What Ian said: Striker jamed forward
What I heard: Double action full-auto
The trigger pull killed it.
I mean, at the time, the average revolver had a 12lb DA trigger. So this was a pretty big improvement with an 8.5lb trigger in DA.
And even my CZ75 has a long, long DA trigger pull. I'd need to borrow a trigger gauge to weigh it.
But since it was DAO, you never got the short reset and 4.5lb SA pull like a 1911 or CZ75.
8:43 even he did it lol he’s a true “man of the people”
What is more deadly with this pistol, the bullet coming out the barrel or the striker spring?
I'm devastated to learn that the Major's handgun is actually not that good. :(
She has military power level prosthetics, she's not going to notice the weight of the trigger pull.
Boy I'd love to have one of these in my CZ collection
Oh man, memories, there was some commercial shooting range 20+ years ago in Česká Třebová and they had CZ 100 9mm there, so I shot few rounds there, I would love to shoot few rounds now having Shadow 2 nearby. The trigger was at the time already pretty terrible for me as competition 22LR rifles shooter, but had nothing to compare it to. Shadow 2 against this is pure heaven. Shot S2 with novice shooting first time in his life and after some training on the same day he was dead on almost effortlessly, god it is such a good gun so much ahead of this...
Eeeeeeegads, talk about finicky....my eyes hurt after trying to focus on those teeny tiny parts