Fuji XF 18-120mm f/4 LM PZ WR lens review

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  • Опубліковано 15 вер 2022
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  • @AndyUrtu2
    @AndyUrtu2 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for your clear and concise reviews. Your reviews are based on real world usage and experience and that is appreciated.

  • @mickaeldelcanto9708
    @mickaeldelcanto9708 Рік тому

    Thank you ! I was looking for a zoom for photography, I was hesitating between this one and the tamron 17-70mm and now thanks to you I know this new 18-120mm isn't the best choice for me.

  • @MrAllstar
    @MrAllstar Рік тому +10

    The sharpness in the centre throughout the focal range is amazing, you could shoot a full film on this. It’s like the basic do it all Fujinon TV zoom lens they’d use at outside broadcasts.

  • @snappyapple6328
    @snappyapple6328 Рік тому +19

    Pretty neat that more lenses like these are starting to adopt power zoom. Always thought it was a gimmick for people transitioning from point n' shoot cameras, but apparently very useful for videographers.

    • @trowawayacc
      @trowawayacc Рік тому +2

      i wish this was available a year ago. i came from a point and shoot. and interchangable lenses are very wierd. when trying to get quick shots. sometimes its very cumbersome to exchange lenses and if its raining its a no go.

  • @NJM1948
    @NJM1948 Рік тому +5

    Thanks for this excellent review. As I will upgrading from my X-T3 to the X-T5 with the 40mp sensor, I was looking closely at this lens to replace my 16-80mm which is not on Fuji's list of lenses that will fully resolve the new sensor. However, as an out and out stills photographer, I am thinking that this is not the lens for me...thanks to your review. It definitely looks like a videocentric lens. Have you had chance to compare this to the 16-80mm as I am now considering hanging on to mine until they release a more stills friendly similar lens

  • @_trismegistus
    @_trismegistus Рік тому +5

    0:26 ....except you do get exposure changes when you zoom. It's mild in this case, but you can see what looks like maybe an ISO adjustment, or some aperture control issue, happening multiple times.

  • @franzjosefstakes
    @franzjosefstakes Рік тому +27

    "I don't think there are any 8K Fuji-cameras yet."
    Little did he know...

  • @bardofhighrenown
    @bardofhighrenown Рік тому +94

    It's really weird to me that a power zoom lens, which I assume is mostly targeted at video users, doesn't also have image stabilization.

    • @nordfresse
      @nordfresse Рік тому +18

      Makes sense tho if you look at the latest hybrid camera models that Fujifilm launched, they bot have ibis. Ois would probably make this lens extremly heavy and bulky.

    • @bardofhighrenown
      @bardofhighrenown Рік тому +7

      @@nordfresse Yeah I realize they had to cut the weight somewhere, but some systems include both lens and body stabilization and get fantastic results with it. Like Panasonic for instance. I think that an 18-80 with a fixed aperture, IS, and power zoom makes more sense though if you're shooting video. It feels like they tried to make it both appeal to video users and make it a general purpose adventure telephoto lens and I feel like it's weird as a result.

    • @nordfresse
      @nordfresse Рік тому +2

      @@bardofhighrenown They literally have a 16-80 with OIS, as well as an 18-55 and an 18-135. Also along with IBIS you have digital stabilization now, which works lossless with high res. sensors.

    • @richardsalsomano
      @richardsalsomano Рік тому

      It's a parfocal lens man. That is as useful as stabilization for a videographer who doesn't make slide shows (typical of photographers).

    • @colinhoward2200
      @colinhoward2200 Рік тому +1

      Totally agree - I bought one and I am returning it immediately. On both my X-T4 and X-H2S it IBIS skips like hell. If I add DIS to compensate it gets so overwhelmed I get a jelly type image. It is useless- except I guess if it is on a tripod. For handheld - rubbish. Sticking with my 18-55 and 55-200.

  • @trym2121
    @trym2121 Рік тому

    I wonder why you didn't test it at the center focal length, 70-ish. Does it have the same result as 50?

  • @svetlanagrobman3476
    @svetlanagrobman3476 Рік тому

    Thank u for the review! I'm trying to get a middle-range lens for shooting landscape. It's this lens better than 16-80?

  • @Saturdaynight2012
    @Saturdaynight2012 Рік тому

    You mention that it may not be good for 8k, however the Fujifilm x-h2 can shoot 8k with this lens. Any thoughts if they would be a good match?

  • @jlwilliams
    @jlwilliams Рік тому +4

    Do the corners remain soft if you move the focus point out to a corner? Or can they be brought into sharp focus at the expense of center sharpness? If corner sharpness can be improved by focusing on the corners, then the issue is field curvature, which is only important if you're photographing flat objects such as test charts. If corners are unsharp regardless of focus position, then the optical design of the lens is not so good.

    • @gregboyce360
      @gregboyce360 Рік тому +1

      Hi J.L. By any chance have you found an answer to your excellent question?

  • @ashtonanderson
    @ashtonanderson Рік тому +10

    Love the Fuji content, Christopher! I'd be very interested in a Fuji 90mm f2 review from you. It's had quite the reputation among Fuji shooters for years now, and I'm curious how it looks to your observant eye.

    • @JungleCatImages
      @JungleCatImages Рік тому

      I'd be interested to see that also.... Even though, I've been shooting the 90 on an X-T2 for about 2 years and already know what an absolutely fantastic piece of glass it is

    • @ashtonanderson
      @ashtonanderson Рік тому

      @@JungleCatImages Nice! what do you use it for?

    • @victorreece9555
      @victorreece9555 Рік тому

      It can shoot 8k 30

    • @mirza3582
      @mirza3582 Рік тому +1

      @@JungleCatImages It is hands down my favorite lens in the X-mount system. I reckon it will be close to 80mm F2.8 or 50mm F2 but with much less vignetting or even similar IQ to newly released F1.4 lenses.

    • @BTMovieSecondChannel
      @BTMovieSecondChannel Рік тому

      @@JungleCatImages I agree. Actually, it’s perhaps my least used lens since the focal length doesn’t suit my needs that often. But apart from that, the image quality is superb. Razor sharp, very nice bokeh, good colors. It also focuses very fast. Now I got my X-H2S, it also balances better on the camera body, so it might see more flying hours.

  • @canderson1955
    @canderson1955 Рік тому

    Was this a pre-production lens Christopher or is it an early production model? I’m in the UK and have had this lens on pre-order since July. Ps there is one Fuji camera that shoots 8k now as the XH2 can do that and the XH2s is capable of 6k at 30fps.

  • @ROLHG
    @ROLHG Рік тому

    I'm torn between this and the tamron 18-300mm. Any ideas?

  • @zupperm
    @zupperm Рік тому +6

    Hey did you do the zoom pulls in the beginning with full manual exposure because there’s still some minor exposure changes?

    • @professionalpotato4764
      @professionalpotato4764 Рік тому +1

      Seems like Fuji still controls iris electronically and can't do it perfectly yet. Maybe the motor used to control it can't do fine enough adjustments.

  • @Badonicus
    @Badonicus Рік тому

    Will you do the test on the 50 - 400 Tamron Chris?

  • @teacherofteachers1239
    @teacherofteachers1239 Рік тому +5

    The exposure issue stepping issue that some folks comment on (it's in the sample at 1:49 - 1:50) is also shown and discussed on the UA-cam page with Gordon Laing's review. It seems not to be a problem for some folks shooting video, but it's good to see samples like this so folks know what they're getting. If Fuji rectifies this for just this one lens, I know what I want for Christmas.

    • @hendrickziegler8487
      @hendrickziegler8487 Рік тому +2

      To me it seems to be a metering issue: At Chris's zoom at 1:49 there are those smaller bright rocks in the center of the frame and a rather center weighted metering would have reacted that way. Pretty similar at 0:28 - 0:31 : There he is zooming into the black beak / nose of the owl. Accordingly, the image becomes brighter while zooming in (opposed to it becoming darker at the shoreline zoom)

    • @josephferrariproductions3544
      @josephferrariproductions3544 Рік тому +1

      I am getting exposure stepping with the XH2S and the 18-120mm. I get that same effect with the Canon EFS 18-135mm with power zoom. But I expected that since its not a constant aperture throughout its zoom range. I've got everything in manual mode and use the VND filter to control exposure. Is it camera related and not lens related?

    • @AdamKuban
      @AdamKuban Рік тому

      That’s disappointing to read, Joseph. I was thinking of getting the XH2S + this lens, but the exposure stepping is one of the major cons in my comparison chart against the Sony a7sIII, which is the other camera im considering. Hope Fuji fixes this.

    • @Eyeofkamau
      @Eyeofkamau Рік тому

      @@josephferrariproductions3544 it’s 100% camera related.

    • @jakelindsay6251
      @jakelindsay6251 Рік тому

      @@Eyeofkamau Nah. Behaves the same on my X-T2, X-s10, and X-H2S. Pretty sloppy of Fuji to let this one go.

  • @deluxelex9056
    @deluxelex9056 Рік тому

    How's this lens vs 18-135? I'm planning to upgrade to an XT5 when it comes out (with its 40 MP sensor). I currently have the XT30 Mark 1 (@ 26MP) with the 18-135 and don't think the 18-135 would resolve all the 40MP resolution on the XT5, whereas I think the 18-120 is approved for the new 40MP sensor.

  • @nordfresse
    @nordfresse Рік тому +1

    I wish you could test this again on the x-h2 with its 2x digital zoom in 4k hq, which should work seamlessly with this zoom rocker...

  • @phillies4eva
    @phillies4eva 6 місяців тому

    I really hope you do a rereview of this lens with an H2s. The question that most lingers is: can you get good handheld video at 120mm with the H2s IBIS? I’ve heard it both ways. In general though I have very steady hands so I’m leaning towards yes but it would be great to see through one of your reviews

  • @regulation-comment-leaver
    @regulation-comment-leaver Рік тому

    will you be reviewing the laowa 12-24mm f/5.6

  • @camerondavis7815
    @camerondavis7815 2 місяці тому

    This looks like the perfect church service streaming lens! Way cheeper than a broadcast lens with AF and power zoom. On a tripod, the lack of IS is not an issue at all. Definitely grabbing this one.

  • @ImperiousImages
    @ImperiousImages 5 місяців тому

    Thanks for this great review. I'd been using the Sony 18-105/4 PZ and slowly switching to Fuji.
    I hadn't known of this Fuji equivalent. It seems very comparable in output and functionality.

    • @derJackistweg
      @derJackistweg 28 днів тому

      I owned that lens too on A6000. Though usefull but I thought, at the time, it is a boring lens.
      The 18-120PZ now on my X.H2s is different: More range and more features with those buttons. No issues with image quality that I can see and it is great for video.
      Internally zooming is great, and for stability: If one wants that, one must use a gimbal, for that it is nice.

  • @peterebel7899
    @peterebel7899 Рік тому

    Serious work by Fuji.

  • @Aksunkuvat
    @Aksunkuvat Рік тому

    Chris you considering XH2 ?

  • @sallydon3723
    @sallydon3723 Рік тому

    Can you please review the Fujifilm xf 150-600?

  • @antzpantz
    @antzpantz Рік тому +5

    X-H2 can shoot 8K video! :D

  • @vpr5562
    @vpr5562 Рік тому

    This or 18-135 for photography, for casual (wife) shooting? x-t10 body :P (now having 15-45 lens).

  • @Princeton_James
    @Princeton_James 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for the honest review. Not for me as a photographer. I thought this would be good for travel but I think the image quality on the 16-80 is better. For wildlife super zoom I'll go with the 70-300.

  • @asahelmartinez7508
    @asahelmartinez7508 Рік тому +2

    ¡Hola me gustaria que probara la lente Meike 50mm f0.95!

  • @bill3117
    @bill3117 Рік тому

    This lens is one I knew nothing about. I appreciate the review! I'm a little put off by the price. Might be worth picking one up used.

    • @strongereveryday2302
      @strongereveryday2302 Місяць тому

      Super affordable used now. With an xh-1, xh-2 or xh-2s it's phenomenal.

  • @JoseHerrerawl
    @JoseHerrerawl Рік тому

    Just got a used copy from B&H and I’m not sure if it’s my copy, but zooming in and out is rather loud.

  • @SummersSnaps
    @SummersSnaps 11 місяців тому

    Is it parfocal?

  • @erlieflorbernardo4873
    @erlieflorbernardo4873 Рік тому

    Hi! I just bought the lens. Im not a professional. I just wanted it for the zoom range for my upcoming travel. I just noticed that something wiggles inside whenever I move it upside down. Is this ok? I tried using it and it works out fine though. Thank you.

    • @ridgefield
      @ridgefield Рік тому

      I don't have this lens, so not exactly sure, but this is usually a component in the linear motor.

  • @JoaquimGonsalves
    @JoaquimGonsalves Рік тому +4

    While to some it might seem easier to choose, I'm torn between this one and the Tamron 17-70. Being a hybrid shooter I'm not sure what to do. The 2.8 is tempting on the Tamron but again, I can't decide. For stills, while I'll have to rely more on my strobes, the fact that I won't need to change lenses for the majority of an entire event and be active on just one camera would be quite amazing. But I'd certainly miss a 2.8 aperture. If someone could test these two lenses out at an event that would really help.

    • @bunmeng007
      @bunmeng007 Рік тому +1

      Shooting event n mostly still, then u need the tamron 2.8 for low light n bokeh. 18-120 is designed primarily for video-centric users.

    • @JoaquimGonsalves
      @JoaquimGonsalves Рік тому

      @@bunmeng007 True. But I do mostly video too. Thank you though.

    • @technodronesogxl9783
      @technodronesogxl9783 Рік тому

      @@JoaquimGonsalves I am thinking j I st as you are.....too bad it's a in between kind of lens. And you may need 2 lens unfortunately. I am thinking maybe the xf18-55 and this lens. 🤔 If I could I'd get the Tamron and this lens.
      I have a Viltrox 13mm 1.4 paired to my Xt4. New to Fuji now needing more focal range this is a dilemma for my budget.

  • @teacherofteachers1239
    @teacherofteachers1239 Рік тому +3

    I have an update to my earlier comment about how I could use this lens if not for the apparent exposure stepping, and I'm thinking some other people (especially those who work in video and might be newish to cameras and lenses, like me) might be interested in what I've learned, as I have scoured the internet for information on this stepping phenomenon, and nearly every discussion forum went off on the wrong track. What I've learned applies to zoom lenses across the board, but especially less expensive constant aperture zooms like this.
    Bear in mind, I've only been doing work with cameras earnestly for a couple of years. And perhaps all this is redundant to something Christopher has talked about somewhere.
    Well, turns out the exposure stepping seen on some constant aperture zooms (seen in this video at 1:49-1:50) is almost a design feature, rather than a bug, so I would not expect it to be mitigated in the future. Take everything I am about to say with a grain of salt, but at the end I will mention some UA-camrs who educated me:
    The basic question I had never thought about before is how can a zoom lens maintain its f-stop over different focal lengths? Since f-stop is a ratio of focal length to iris diameter (I will call the physical aperture the "iris" to avoid confusion), something will have to be done about the iris's relationship to focal length as the focal length changes (if nothing at all were done, the ratio, which is to say the f-stop, would change as focal length changes).
    This is complicated by the difference between physical opening of the iris and its "apparent" opening, which zooming alters, but admittedly I'm going to barely mention that as that's where things start getting too technical for me.
    Keeping the ratio between iris and focal length constant to maintain that f-stop for "constant aperture" can involve three kinds of change: moving the iris assembly (which can actually have two irises, surprisingly), moving glass elements to maintain apparent iris diameter, and opening or closing the iris blades.
    It turns out that the economical way to do maintain the f-stop ratio between the iris and focal length includes that third kind of change: having the iris diameter change size (closing or opening the blades) as focal length changes. I gather that the priciest constant aperture zoom lenses will not have this "feature" - and the Fuji 18-120 is not a pricey lens.
    So, even if everything on a person's camera is set to manual, and the person is using this particular zoom lens with its "constant aperture," the iris blades will in fact shift (narrowing or opening) while the focal length shifts.
    This by itself might not create an issue. Rather, it seems the issue here is the way the Fuji camera communicates with these Fuji lenses: the camera will have to make the iris change in increments, and this is why you get that stepping look.
    Manufacturing the 18-120 without this exposure stepping seems possible, but it would mean a noticeably more expensive lens. I think that I do not get stepping on my 50-140, but it is a larger, more expensive lens (if someone sees stepping on their 50-140, I would appreciate hearing about it). I do get that stepping on my variable zoom lenses, even the expensive 100-400 at f/11, but the 100-400 is fairly compact relative to what it accomplishes, hence it makes sense that Fuji used the iris-adjustment design.
    What was perplexing about this 18-120 from the outset was having a power zoom feature - which seems more like a video feature than a stills feature - that is no better for video (for my purposes, anyway) than not having the power zoom. I wonder if camcorders, like the Canon XF605, have this exposure stepping issue even when the aperture is closed down.
    The people who educated me on how the physical iris mechanism is handled in zoom lenses are "Grandads Reviews" and "Dave McKeegan." The "Granddads Reviews" video was simpler and easier to follow; the "Dave McKeegan" videos (there are two on this subject) is helpful for the more technically-minded.
    Okay, I hope some of that is accurate enough to be of practical help to someone. I just learned this. - Dave

    • @ridgefield
      @ridgefield Рік тому

      I think you are right about the stepping issue. And if the lens maintains the wide opening aperture (iris), the stepping issue doesn't happen even for cheaper lenses. By the way, XF 18-120 does apply smooth aperture change, so in theory, the stepping shouldn't happen (there's some review showing this feature). I still have some hope Fuji can fix this via firmware.

  • @JanneRanta
    @JanneRanta Рік тому

    Isn't the new XH2 8k video camera?

  • @marvinm9511
    @marvinm9511 Рік тому +1

    So what should i buy as a hybrid shooter? This 18-120 or the Tamron 17-70mm? I use an X-H2s

    • @serghios
      @serghios Рік тому

      I am in the same boat about this 2 lens (for wedding videography) and gimbal use

    • @greggpedder
      @greggpedder Рік тому

      Fujinon 16-55 & 55-200

    • @serghios
      @serghios Рік тому

      @@greggpedder no way i buy tamron, stabilized and brand new lens the zoom fuji is old

  • @djxcel23
    @djxcel23 Рік тому

    Wonder if they could fix everything with a firmware update

  • @jacobmchenry3431
    @jacobmchenry3431 Рік тому

    I’m terms of an all around travel photo focused lens how does this rate compared to the 18-135? The internal zoom is nice in my mind for additional weather protection in very inclement conditions.

  • @pixelgermane
    @pixelgermane Рік тому

    I have the 18-120 brand new, but something rattles when I shake it. Question to the professional: Is there a lens loose (because OIS has's not)? Should I send the lens back to Amazon within the deadline? - Thanks for your help!

    • @andrewjune
      @andrewjune Рік тому

      It’s the linear motor lens element that’s rattling when the camera is turned off. When it’s on, you shouldn’t hear any rattling.

    • @richardcarlson112
      @richardcarlson112 Рік тому

      the 90mm f2 has it also. I have seen some people comment about it but I own the lens and it's the furthest from my mind when I use it. I wonder sometimes if people are looking for things to be critical about.

  • @chungnguyen-sp9kg
    @chungnguyen-sp9kg Рік тому

    Please can u review fujifilm xf 50-140

  • @jewknee7870
    @jewknee7870 Рік тому +2

    Brilliant! Your review basically answers all my questions.
    Can you confirm me if the lens maintains its exposure when you zoom in and out? It seemed that way, but I wasn’t sure as you didn’t mention it

    • @christopherfrost
      @christopherfrost  Рік тому +1

      Yes but there is some only slight flickering

    • @toxotis70
      @toxotis70 Рік тому +6

      @@christopherfrost not again…! Why Fuji, why can’t you fix this?

    • @jewknee7870
      @jewknee7870 Рік тому

      @@christopherfrost thank you for the reply!

    • @jonstnr
      @jonstnr Рік тому

      @@toxotis70 Use auto ISO and try using constant aperture of f/5.6 (maybe also works with f/4).. This might fix it - I know it works with my 18-55mm kit lens

    • @toxotis70
      @toxotis70 Рік тому

      @@jonstnr it doesn’t work with any constant aperture lens I tried …

  • @gregorythomashugel1349
    @gregorythomashugel1349 Рік тому +2

    Fuji does have an 8k shooter out, oddly enough.

  • @TorresinhoLFC
    @TorresinhoLFC Рік тому

    basketball videographers will love this.

  • @ngonzale3
    @ngonzale3 Рік тому

    Such an impressive lens, but, the fact that it has no Optical Image Stabilization seems like a bit of a mistake. . One's hands- even with an IBIS camera will always have some movement when the rocker is used. Still, I'd like to try it.

  • @gabequezada2066
    @gabequezada2066 Рік тому +2

    is it parfocal? I find that to be an important detail

    • @opalyankaBG
      @opalyankaBG Рік тому

      Probably not as you need to update your camera's firmware so that the camera will keep your subject focused while zooming.

    • @Vinterloft
      @Vinterloft Рік тому

      It's electronically compensated. Hopefully we get the Tamron 35-150 eventually.

    • @greggpedder
      @greggpedder Рік тому

      No, it's not.

  • @eddiespectral
    @eddiespectral 7 місяців тому

    When Fuji release the same lens with OIS, I'll buy it

  • @yassinerizzani4600
    @yassinerizzani4600 Рік тому +4

    Making a photo version of this lens with an aperture ring and mechanical zoom mechanism would be a dream for me

    • @LAG360
      @LAG360 Рік тому +2

      If you're a Sony user, this isn't a dream since the full frame Tamron 28-200 exists, is better optically (especially at the long end) and is less expensive.
      No aperture ring tho

    • @Joe-hm1zk
      @Joe-hm1zk Рік тому +4

      @@LAG360 If you're a Sony user, you wouldn't be looking at this lens.

    • @p4ul.f708
      @p4ul.f708 Рік тому +1

      What about the Tamron 17-70?
      Its not as tele as this but has f2.8 and great sharpness.

  • @WoFRBlog
    @WoFRBlog Рік тому

    My version of the 18-120 has just arrived and I am negatively surprised by quite a loud zoom noise both for stills and video. Can maybe anyone having this lens confirm that this is expected and not just down to a poor version I received? I have not noted anything in the video review so I am a bit afraid I just got unlucky

    • @WoFRBlog
      @WoFRBlog Рік тому +1

      Update: after reviewing and installing the new firmware (X-T4 1.60) again, the noise disappeared for videos. In stills, it's still a horrendous zoom wobbling sound reminding me on the 70-300 but just a bit louder. That's IMO not acceptable if you buy a lens not only for results but also joyful use. BTW - it's not a mechanic sound related to poor build quality, but sounds rather motor-wise

    • @ridgefield
      @ridgefield Рік тому

      @@WoFRBlog How come they could remove the noise in video, but not in stills?

  • @phillies4eva
    @phillies4eva 6 місяців тому

    It’s too bad you couldn’t test this lens on a camera with ibis. Would be useful to know if ibis can handle 120mm. I’ve read that people have had issues with this

  • @jacksoni349
    @jacksoni349 Рік тому +1

    I just want Fuji to product some longer prime lenses…

  • @patrick.771
    @patrick.771 Рік тому +3

    I don't understand why Fuji can't build better zoom lenses.
    Moved to Nikon Z because I want to work with zooms and it's a difference like day and night.
    Although Fuji's build quality is very nice I have to admit ...

  • @remektekmedia6641
    @remektekmedia6641 Рік тому +1

    Great review. I was interested in this lens, but no more. It doesn't look like it's par-focal, and the exposure was jumping during zooming. Add to that the lack of an iris ring, which for video should be stepless and going to all black, and no IOS, not to mention the subpar resolution. Clearly aimed at the novice video shooter and not something that I would now consider. :(

    • @greggpedder
      @greggpedder Рік тому

      I don't think I'll be buying... It won't do anything that my 16-55 won't do. If I need any longer I'll use my 55-200 or 50-140. I'd even say that the 18-55/50-140 combo would be better as both of these lenses have OIS.
      I think it's designed as an all-in-one lens for hobby filmmakers, like you say.

  • @jan-martinulvag1953
    @jan-martinulvag1953 2 місяці тому

    I find it strange that you show only f 4 in the middle. Why is that? It does not get any sharper stopping down? A shame you did not show us.

  • @el_fucko
    @el_fucko Рік тому +15

    The new Fuji X-H2 does have enough pixels for 8k, Chris!

  • @colinhoward2200
    @colinhoward2200 Рік тому

    I bought this lens and loathe it - I am returning it. It does not have any inbuilt OIS and jitters like hell on both my X-T4 and X-H2S backs at 120mm. The inbuilt IBIS does not help TBH as it is beyond jittery. If I add DIS, the DIS system is overwhelmed and can't cope so the whole image becomes like jelly. Not quite sure what they were thinking with this lens. I am keeping my combination of 18-55 + 55-200 as I have not seen any of these issues with either of those. The IBIS in the camera back won't help, the OIS on the 18-55 and 55-200 does.

  • @Optidorf
    @Optidorf Рік тому

    So, not a replacement for my aging Fujinon 18-135mm then.

  • @mostlymessingabout
    @mostlymessingabout Рік тому

    If you turn off distortion correction does it avoid the warping?

  • @xyphoto
    @xyphoto Рік тому +5

    This is a much anticipated lens. Unfortunately, corner sharpness is disappointing. From 18-135, 16-80, to 18-120, Fuji still hasn't cracked the superzoom code after so many years. They should just buy the technology from Tamron or Nikon.

    • @eagleeyephoto8715
      @eagleeyephoto8715 Рік тому +1

      Technology of what? Those Nikon and Tamron lenses for apsc are even worst then anythin Fujifilm made.

    • @xyphoto
      @xyphoto Рік тому +1

      @@eagleeyephoto8715 Watch Christopher’s review of the Nikon Z 18-140.

    • @eagleeyephoto8715
      @eagleeyephoto8715 Рік тому

      @@xyphoto Since when Christopher knows what is good lens?

  • @j16m02
    @j16m02 Рік тому +1

    I'd love to see an image quality comparison to the Sony 18-135

  • @GoProGnome
    @GoProGnome Рік тому +6

    Let's be fair to our Olympus friends - the 12-100 f/4 beats out this Fuji with a constant aperture 24-200 equivalent zoom range.

    • @AbdonPhirathon
      @AbdonPhirathon Рік тому

      I was just about to comment the same thing 😂

    • @GoProGnome
      @GoProGnome Рік тому +1

      @@AbdonPhirathon he did mention that there were none in aps-c or full frame lens catalogues, which I think is true.

    • @KonicaHexanon
      @KonicaHexanon Рік тому +1

      It's also quite a bit heavier and extendable design, which I hate.

    • @thomasanderson5929
      @thomasanderson5929 8 місяців тому

      If only they could make something in the same or similar range for APS-C / FF cameras. Tamron makes a 17-70mm f/2.8 with Image Stabilization that weighs about 500g... I'd take a 16-120mm F/4 with IS any day, it'd be close enough to a 12-100mm Olympus. Would love to just have ONE lens for everything and take my camera everywhere.

  • @grafixnetz
    @grafixnetz Рік тому

    Just got this lens. It has absolutely ZERO markings!!! No idea which side of it's range the lens is on before you put it into a compatible camera AND turn it on.
    The zoom ring doesn't stop at all, not on the near or far end, just like the focus ring.
    I first used it on my X-H1 which worked OK but the X-H1 doesn't (yet) have a firmware update to use this lens.

  • @Mnilionic
    @Mnilionic Рік тому

    keep waiting ~120/f1.8 for fuji 🙃

  • @user-ld7xd1xk5c
    @user-ld7xd1xk5c Рік тому

    In the past, Fuji used a lot of glue to bond the lenses, which is easy to age and fog.?

  • @bestintentions6089
    @bestintentions6089 Рік тому

    Lol on update app said no new update i went to get sd card based update, ficus was all over the place

  • @GordoFriman
    @GordoFriman Рік тому +4

    I find this lens a bit contradictory: Its meant for video and can reach long focal lenght but has no IS. It gets developed around a motorized zoom system but then gets obvious and ugly distortion correction adjustment during zoom, plus slowest zoom speed is already too fast. Not a convincing lens to me.

    • @zegzbrutal
      @zegzbrutal Рік тому

      Fuji cripple hammer

    • @Vinterloft
      @Vinterloft Рік тому +4

      The distortion correction is not visible on X-H2 and X-H2S, probably to do with the 5x increase in processing power

    • @tugatomskanimation6370
      @tugatomskanimation6370 Рік тому

      @@Vinterloft How is that possible?

  • @LAG360
    @LAG360 Рік тому +6

    Reminds of the Full frame Tamron 28-200mm f2.8-5.6. It's not a constant aperture lens, but bear in mind that f4.0 on an APSC lens is equivalent to f6 on full frame, so you could set the tamron to f5.6 and it would be faster than the fuji in equivalent terms. The Tamron isn't a powerzoom either, but whether that's a pro or con depends on the user. Tamron is pretty comparable sharpness wise for most of the zoom range as far as I could see in this video, but it's way sharper at the long end. And finally the tamron is a bit less expensive at 729usd. For someone looking to buy into a camera system for a walkaround photo camera and lens, I know which one I'd recommend.

    • @el-drk
      @el-drk Рік тому

      I fully agree

    • @dajekenji
      @dajekenji Рік тому +1

      F4 on apsc is equal to what? 😄
      Maybe you were talking about the depth of field.

    • @Fjzk952
      @Fjzk952 Рік тому +1

      In terms of light gathering (speed) f4 is f4 in any sensor format or size. Depth of field, yes, it’s equivalent to F6 in full frame

    • @LAG360
      @LAG360 Рік тому +2

      @@dajekenji Depth of field, but also net light gathering ability (as in the total number of photons hitting the sensor). This is why larger sensor formats are known to perform better noise-wise at high ISOs than smaller sensors at equivalent f ratios. To better explain what I mean, picture a full frame lens at f4.0 on a full frame sensor, now put that lens on an apsc body. All of a sudden a good portion of the light that was hitting the sensor is now hitting the plastic around the apsc sensor, so the apsc sensor is getting less light, despite the fact that the lens is still at f4 . Now do we all understand that an f5.6 full frame lens gathers more light than an apsc f4?

    • @dajekenji
      @dajekenji Рік тому

      @@LAG360 and what about the shutter speed you can get at F4?

  • @opalyankaBG
    @opalyankaBG Рік тому +4

    I wouldn't expect much optically from a lens like this, but either way Fuji has some issues with their zooms. Besides the red badge ones, the rest of their zooms all have drawbacks.

    • @eagleeyephoto8715
      @eagleeyephoto8715 Рік тому

      Fujifilm has the widest and best offer of zoom lenses on apsc based cameras. Not sure which one you used but most of them are pretty good.

  • @ЭтоДрючинский
    @ЭтоДрючинский Рік тому +1

    Sincerely, I don't really get Fuji's approach to video. As much as I like Fuji for photos, as much I'm confused in this area. All their zooms have "false constant" aperture which causes brightness jumps while zooming. AF at zooming is just awful, jumping back and fourth. AF as it is just inadequate - I could never get predictable results working with it, usually it simply *doesn't work*. AF settings make no sense. And what confuses me most of all - NO TRACKING in video mode. And don't tell me about subject detection - I need tracking of *anything I place the tracking box on*, nothing else. It's there for photo, but not in other mode - seriously??
    And this lens now. No IS, no iris ring, weird glitches with distortion compensation.
    I'm much frustrated with it all.

  • @ChocoLater1
    @ChocoLater1 9 місяців тому

    At 120 mm you are not very likely to photograph a scene that would be completely in focus. Chances are at 120 mm there will be a subject in the middle and a bokeh in the corner. If you will be photographing a scene where the entire scene will be in focus then picture quality in corners will improve at about 100mm. Still very good for noncommercial photographers.

  • @michaelappleyard6300
    @michaelappleyard6300 Рік тому +1

    Fujifilm X-H2 does 8k video.

  • @indago1
    @indago1 Рік тому

    The line about "No 8k cameras for Fuji cameras yet" didnt age well :)))

  • @SlotCarNewsOfficial
    @SlotCarNewsOfficial Рік тому +3

    That zoom distortion/warping... I'm glad I've made the decision to transition to Sony from Fujifilm. My 16-35PZ from Sony is great and I've seen no distortion.

    • @SlotCarNewsOfficial
      @SlotCarNewsOfficial Рік тому +2

      Also I'd love to see if it keeps smooth focus on a static object. I do a direct to camera video each week and today I shot my video with my XH1 instead of my Sony A7riii just to see what the differences would be if any.
      I'd forgotten the Fuji system can't handle being in continuous AF on a static (or direct to camera subject that's not moving too much) without the camera/lens constantly jittering in and out of focus. The Sony I have does a perfect job of this.. which is one of the reasons I've begun to switch. I do lots of news videos and interviews for my full time job at a newspaper and I do lots of talking head videos. I do prefer the colors on Fujifilm but the video it gives you in AF-C is nearly unusable because of the jittering. I don't know if they've fixed this with the XH2 but I hope they have.
      I saw lots of odd zooming distortions in this video with that lens that just don't happen even with my older Sony (and a camera that people feel isn't able to do good video).
      I'm going to be very interested to see what your opinions are about the XH2 if you get one to review.

    • @geopapa80
      @geopapa80 Рік тому +4

      Sony has implemented pz much better, even with their cheap kit lens.

    • @sbsheep
      @sbsheep Рік тому +1

      I hope Fuji corrects this is in a further firmware update, kind of a dealbreaker otherwise.

    • @unknowncaller4739
      @unknowncaller4739 Рік тому +1

      Good fer you 🎉 yes one corporation is better than the other 🙌🏻

    • @sbsheep
      @sbsheep Рік тому +3

      I've tested the X-H2S in newspaper video work btw and am very happy with it. First of my Fujis where I feel confident in the autofocus capabilities.

  • @JiiruKoga
    @JiiruKoga Рік тому +1

    I have been wondering if this is one of the best all in one lens out there.

    • @cedric3379
      @cedric3379 Рік тому +3

      I’d say it's either Nikon 24-120 or Tamron 28-200 depends on what feature you want, fuji zooms aren't spectacular

    • @JiiruKoga
      @JiiruKoga Рік тому +1

      @@cedric3379 Yeah I was thinking if I was traveling with my xt3 and only bringing one lens for photos and video.

    • @anthonystonehouse
      @anthonystonehouse Рік тому +1

      Yeah, I’d agree with the above suggestion and also worth looking at the Tamron 35-150 f2-2.8. I think Nikon and Sony bodies are best options for zoom lenses. Fuji is great for primes. That said I have done a lot of travel with the Fuji 16-80 f4 and generally happy with the results, if I avoid the extremes of the zoom range. That lens doesn’t make the list of supported lenses on the 40mp sensor though.

    • @cedric3379
      @cedric3379 Рік тому

      @@JiiruKoga I'd go with 16-80 and 70-300, fuji still lacks a proper all-in-one choice as this 18-120 is poor at telephoto

    • @JiiruKoga
      @JiiruKoga Рік тому +1

      @@anthonystonehouse @Cedric Thank you so much for the advice. I bought the xt3 and fell in love with it and will probably think about the xt5 when it comes out. I'm currently using the kit lens but will concider the 16-80 f4 lens.

  • @key2adventure
    @key2adventure Рік тому

    Now Fuji has X-T5 with 8k video, maybe this lens isn’t good for that camera.

  • @MrDG80
    @MrDG80 Рік тому +3

    Guys, these lenses are made for versatility. It is pretty useless to criticize sharpness or other parameters vs primes or heavy and expensive red badge zooms. I happily use the 16-80 and any other lens would not suit my needs. So this one would do for soneonw else.

    • @bigd7696
      @bigd7696 Рік тому +1

      I disagree. You may want a baseline of comparison against a lens you are familiar with.

  • @afrocism9045
    @afrocism9045 Рік тому

    Fujifilm x-h2s shoots 8k!

  • @iamphil1598
    @iamphil1598 Рік тому

    Howdee!!!!! 👍

  • @denisgehlhaar8902
    @denisgehlhaar8902 Рік тому

    There is a Fuji 8K Kamera. The brand new X-H2 (Non "S")
    But for me this lens is pretty useless without image stabilization. WTF, Fuji?

  • @JonathanVarasRoco
    @JonathanVarasRoco Рік тому

    f 1.4 pleaaaaaaSeeeeee #Fuji needs to understand that 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @KikujiroChan
    @KikujiroChan Рік тому

    no words about the parfocal feature?

    • @Vinterloft
      @Vinterloft Рік тому +2

      It's not parfocal, it's electronically compensated

    • @professionalpotato4764
      @professionalpotato4764 Рік тому

      It's virtually impossible to make a parfocal lens this tiny, just look at cinema zooms. Any autofocusing "parfocal" lens with more than a 2x zoom range is usually done electronically.

  • @jukeboxjohnnie
    @jukeboxjohnnie Рік тому

    Yuk. The 18-80mm looks a better option

  • @lippylee947
    @lippylee947 Рік тому

    First!

  • @alexmilesg3
    @alexmilesg3 Рік тому

    How many zooming ways one lens can have….

  • @RandumbTech
    @RandumbTech Рік тому

    The lack of OIS can be forgiven, but no aperture ring Fuji? If you are going to start making gear that looks like all the other brands, it better perform as well or better. Unfortunately, this is another attempt that falls well short of the competition. That warpy crap when zooming in from the wide end is completely unacceptable for professional use.

  • @drs-Rigo-Reus
    @drs-Rigo-Reus Рік тому

    Zoom wokkaa

  • @thomasanderson5929
    @thomasanderson5929 8 місяців тому

    There are only THREE lenses close to this range: the Canon EF/RF 24-105mm F/4, Canon RF 24-105mm F/2.8 and.... Olympus 12-100mm F/4. All of them have Image Stabilization. The sharpest of them of all might be the Olympus. On a M43 body, it's 24mm-200mm; slightly wider than the Fuji and slightly more zoom too when used on an 1.5X crop body. But also, the Olympus' build is much better as well.
    The Olympus might actually take the crown for being the best camera / lens combo for all purposes and street photography.

  • @grdprojekt
    @grdprojekt Рік тому

    8:05 that ages like milk

  • @DJFAmenHeavy
    @DJFAmenHeavy Рік тому

    The focus system is a deal breaker. Sorry Fuji

  • @rzimbauer
    @rzimbauer Рік тому

    0:30 none other in the world besides the Sony E 18-105 f/4 G PZ OSS

  • @Jimmyageek
    @Jimmyageek 4 місяці тому

    Min Focus is a Joke at 60cm!

  • @Donbros
    @Donbros Рік тому

    But its apsc so its actually f6 at least as ff in bokeh department

    • @Donbros
      @Donbros Рік тому

      @@djstuc i say - smaller sensor

    • @Donbros
      @Donbros Рік тому

      @@djstuc short answers is not your drift huh? Ok here is the same a but longer one: it has 1.5x crop so being f4 as ff equivalent its f6, which exact moment is hard for you to understand?

    • @Donbros
      @Donbros Рік тому

      @@djstuc i didn't say its terrible lens just that its not wow having f4 on apsc. Having f4 on full frame at this range that would be astonishing. I see we agree to dissagree, but more likely we talk about different problem I tried to mark, which is f4 on apsc being nothing interesting, but you understood it as "bad" lens. I haven't said that.
      Maybe you should avoid youtube at all with attidute like that. Reddit may be your drive or just stay on flickr

  • @raygamma8739
    @raygamma8739 Рік тому

    wow, distortion18-120, oh my god!
    disappointed !

  • @mattbite
    @mattbite Рік тому

    Many gimmicks, but optical quality suffers. Bad for photography (IQ and limited wide range), average for amateur video work (zooming in movies looks like those clips made by uncles using their VHS cameras on aunt's name day).

    • @nordfresse
      @nordfresse Рік тому +2

      You dont know what you are talking about, this is clearly meant for documentary work or video journalism. Makes sense because the X-H2s records in Prores too.

  • @michael2gen
    @michael2gen Рік тому

    bad

  • @_trismegistus
    @_trismegistus 10 місяців тому

    1:22 God... when is Fuji going to get their shit together with video zoom? Exposure jumps, abrupt vignette corrections, terrible distortion correction jumps in the corners. Absolutely ABSURD to me that they cannot get this right. Makes me want to ditch the system for Sony.

  • @yuidfbse
    @yuidfbse Рік тому +26

    The quality of Fujifilm cameras and lenses has slowly been declining along with, from average steady price increases up to staggering high prices for their newer bodies and better lenses. This has stopped mankind any sense long time ago already. I've switched from Fujifilm to Sony a couple years ago and never looked back. Sensor advantage, none. IQ advantage (X-trans BS), none. Size advantage, none. Price advantage, none. Frequent updates and long-term support for their products as they used to do, now, none. Fujifilm's glory days are gone and mass average consumer appeal and money making machine mentality has replaced them. I'm glad I am out of all this. A FF Sony a7C is smaller and blows ANY of the higher end Fujifilm cameras out of the water (and even cheaper than Fuji's new ones), and the selection of lenses and accessories is unmatched. This lens review just proves the same all over again.. big, not cheap, mediocre performance. Fujifilm? The whole APS-C thing actually? Give me a break. Pass. Thanks for the review as always.

    • @KingFiercer_zip
      @KingFiercer_zip Рік тому +2

      Fuji X-T, X-Pro and X-E lines are more about tactile and visual sensations, as well as getting the result straight out of camera. If we are talking about compactness and weight, then it is clear that the FF will be heavier with similar parameters, at least because of the optics.

    • @LAG360
      @LAG360 Рік тому +2

      Yeah the Tamron 28-200mm for FE mount is just this but better (except for video features) AND less expensive. I don't understand why anyone would buy into fuji x mount at this point.

    • @anthonystonehouse
      @anthonystonehouse Рік тому +9

      Mostly true but their new primes are quite special- 18, 23,33 f1.4 and 56 f1.2.

    • @spaqin
      @spaqin Рік тому +3

      Went with X-T20 for the small cam and dials. But besides the 18-55 and XC 50-230, with glass I went fully third party. Even the cameras themselves aren't great - where's X-T40, small body with dials and IBIS? X-T4 and X-Pro 3 are already A7-sized, what's the point to get Fuji now? Viltrox and Sigma are now saving this mount from extinction.

    • @professionalpotato4764
      @professionalpotato4764 Рік тому +4

      While the price has been kinda steep lately for new products from Fujifilm, it can't be compared to something like an A7C. You get what you pay for. I don't agree with some of Fujifilm's design/pricing choices, but for the most part there is tremendous value in the new lenses/bodies.
      The A7C has barely any bit of ergonomics in it. I'd say it's a point and shoot cam for moms and dads who shoot auto. Also, it doesn't even have a full shutter mechanism, so good luck to shooting portraits in bright daylight with EFCS issues.