I live downtown and commute to OSU on weekdays with COTA, it was convenient. But I do see the problem when people wanna commute from a suburban apartment complex to downtown and it costs an hour or so.
There is a cota Levy for 2024 this November trying to increase the sales tax. to 8% for a $8 billion dollar cota expansion in Columbus Ohio to increase the cota capacity to 45% increase in bus service in Columbus Ohio. It will need 60% of the vote to pass.
As someone who lived in Ohio briefly, Columbus is definitely NO Austin Texas! It doesn’t have the same number of large tech companies, facilities, international investment, diversity or a decent airport or skilled people relocating from places like California or the sunny all year round weather. Texas is the second largest economy in the country outside of California with other decent economic cities besides Austin like Dallas, Houston and San Antonio, outside of Columbus the rest of Ohio is in decline!
I do think American cities will adapt. In the warmer Sunbelt locations like Austin, you might see the use of semi-subterranean walking areas with local gardens to combat heat. They might also be slightly heated in cooler months/days if unusual colder weather hits. I also believe transit will take hold in a bigger way, but I look for trackless trams and the like to dominate the discussion. You can dedicate a lane(s) more easily, requires less disruption of current transportation networks, and it can add a level of beauty to the area.
@@azulaquaza4916 hmm it's like almost having better land use policies where your walk is less than 15 minutes can make your walk much more doable and convenient and nice. And instead of pushing all the buildings back from the street, you can line them up against the road and have arcades (awnings that shade the sidewalk) and plant trees and have benches, trash cans and businesses and homes line it as well. Not so terrible when you don't build parking entrances and exits, pull out lanes and all the other archaic nonsense when it comes to car dominant infrastructure that requires so much land use to make the least efficient form of transportation (personal vehicles) operatable (costing way more tax payer money to keep up and maintain while also being the most damaging and less tax generating when buildings are so far spread apart, large box store offices and utilities needing to reach them)
@@adnanomeragic9597 what you’re proposing is unrealistic in real time not only are you asking for a complete reshaping and designing of an entire city without taking cost or what exist already into thought you’re also wanting people to give up their large homes, downsize, squeeze in with multiple neighbors, no yards and pay the same price for something smaller are you out of your mind?
Columbus is only 'booming' in the context of Ohio. It would be considered stagnant by the standards of southern boomtowns. This is all relative. It's only Ohio's complete stagnation that makes it feel as if it's 'booming.'
I agree Columbus is booming only as it relates to Ohio, Ohioans should trying living in Dallas, Austin or Nashville then they will see first hand it’s not a booming city compared to other US cities
The airport in Columbus sucks. Too much regional jet service to ORD, BWI, LGA, Charlotte and BOS. The city needs much better air service considering the major employers in CMH (Ohio State, Battelle, Nationwide, Chase, Huntington, Wendy's, White Castle and Intel). And NO direct flights to Europe. 14th largest city in the U.S.A.
We should build one large Regional Airport Servicing Columbus, Cincinnati & Dayton located near Washington C.H., Jeffersonville, or Wilmington. With Bus Shuttle service from all 3 cities to the airport, or a rail system to the airport. It could be an Airport just a large as Chicago O'Hare, Atlanta, or Dallas Airports. Also it will reduce the plane noise from all 3 cities.
@@bororidley4769 No need for CVG or DAY. They should of not built the CVG airport in Kentucky. It should of been built halfway between DAY and Cincinnati....maybe between Middletown and Lebanon.
Cities and towns that experience an economic boom always seem to have a severe housing shortage because they never prepared for it and that causes many people who have a job to sleep in their cars or commute many miles away from work and that causes traffic congestion!
As a Austin native, this is where we fail, 10:40, we do need more public transport, not larger roads. Expand public transport now, build bus light rail (I think its call bus rapid transport), light rail but using buses on its own road, save money and be smart yall.
24 year austinite here... does columbus have mass transit? a massive painpoint in austin is we have no rail and our city is cut in half by I35, and no beltway to allow communters or truckers to circumvent downtown. combined with some annoying zoning restrictions and some seriously obnoxious wealthy NIMBYs in key locations and it compounds for issues of growth and development: living centrally in austin became wildly cost prohibitive, so many people (especially minorities) either moved to the subburbs or out of the metro area all together. And with everyone now living on the edges of a city with no mass transit and terrible road design.. the city is in a constant state of playing catch up, but also doesnt want to spend the money needed to play catch up, but also property taxes are ballooning out of control because we use it (and other taxes and fees)to make up for a lack of state income tax. Also, ALL of our roads are under constant construction as a result of the influx of cars and trucks, and as you know, road maintenance costs is an incredible painpoint on city budgets. TLDR: Build lots of rail and mixed used developments around rail. influx of ppl = influx of cars, influx of cars = spike in road maintance costs, spike in road maintance = lots of angry commuters stuck in cars wondering why their taxes are increasing and where its going, angry commuters = premium on housing located to circumvent commutes, premium on housing = people flee to outskirts of city, people fleeing to outskirts = more road maintance on roads not used to so many damn people = increase in taxes = angry commuters = etc TLDR TLDR: youre fucked
Columbus has a "mass" bus transit service, which is rather shitty. shuts down at 10pm, services suck on weekends, and it can be an hour between buses. yeah, it sucks.
We have a way better built freeway system than Austin (there's an outerbelt to bypass downtown and plenty of freeways), but our public transit is probably worse. I don't know Austin's public transit, but Columbus's bus system is a joke and there's no light rail. It's usable if you live and work on major corridors but yeah many stops have an hour plus wait and it only runs til 10pm. As for downtown and the nearby neighborhoods... It can get expensive, but there's still areas that can be cheap if you want to be close. We have a bit of gentrification pushing people out, it's like a donut. You have nice areas in and around downtown, then crime-ridden outer areas, then your usually nicer suburbs
The best way to remain affordable, ...no property taxes on primary residence. Tax incentives to rehab , old homes. Feng shui incorporated into new buildings. Stack and pack, no one wants, old model that eventually turns into "projects", attract crime, disincentive to entrepreneurship.
Technology companies with offices in the Austin area include Advanced Micro Devices, Microsoft, Salesforce, Tesla, SpaceX, Samsung, Informatica, SailPoint, Amazon, Apple Inc., ARM Holdings, Cisco, eBay, Meta (Facebook), Alphabet (Google), IBM, Indeed, Intel, NXP Semiconductors, PayPal, Procore, Silicon Labs, Texas Instruments, Oracle, Visa, VMWare, and many others.Dell's worldwide headquarters are located in Round Rock, a suburb of Austin.
The Columbus government better make plans for its housing authority to make sure that the homeless people who have jobs have access to affordable housing because the economic growth that is expected to come along with the influx of new employees and their employers.
"A lot" is an understatement. However, it is not just Austin, it is Dallas, San Antonio, Houston, and in small towns in TX due to the increasing divide between the rich and poor. Homeless people are not attracted to cities, they are created from within large and small cities. Not to mention the drug epidemic; OHIO better be prepared for that as well, i.e. the growing crime rate that comes with rapid growth. IMHO.
Lived in Columbus for most of my life but now here in Austin for a few years. There are a lot of similarities but there isn’t as many tech jobs in Columbus (I’m aware of the datacenters). There also is close to no gang violence here, the same cannot be said about Columbus.
Texas is very close to becoming the next CA, they even have a "high speed rail" somewhere on the ballot down there if I'm not mistaken - that was exactly the moment CA turned into a disaster of overburdensome regulations. It's projected cost and actual cost are SO far apart I wonder if it was done by design, to help bankrupt CA. Good luck down there in Texas, I'm sure you got a lot of great newcomers to help spread unity among the state...
I’m sorry, but shouldn’t crime rates be lowered before you start focusing on something like this? (Not trying to debate, just asking for a simple answer.)
They are in the suburbs. It does not have a vibrant downtown city vibe. Cincinnati and Cleveland have many more people living or moving to their downtowns...that said Columbus has many nice suburbs.
columbus's inner ring neighborhoods are far more vibrant than its downtown. And not for a lack of effort, they are trying to make downtown happen. It is not developing at a breakneck pace but it is doing so at a steady clip. And much more sustainably than Austin imho. Shoutout to our winters for keeping too many people from moving here.
Columbus NEEDS better transit. Cota is doing NOTHING for the city and its traffic.
I live downtown and commute to OSU on weekdays with COTA, it was convenient. But I do see the problem when people wanna commute from a suburban apartment complex to downtown and it costs an hour or so.
There is a cota Levy for 2024 this November trying to increase the sales tax. to 8% for a $8 billion dollar cota expansion in Columbus Ohio to increase the cota capacity to 45% increase in bus service in Columbus Ohio. It will need 60% of the vote to pass.
As someone who lived in Ohio briefly, Columbus is definitely NO Austin Texas! It doesn’t have the same number of large tech companies, facilities, international investment, diversity or a decent airport or skilled people relocating from places like California or the sunny all year round weather. Texas is the second largest economy in the country outside of California with other decent economic cities besides Austin like Dallas, Houston and San Antonio, outside of Columbus the rest of Ohio is in decline!
Cincinnati has an even better economy than Columbus, what are you even talking about “Decline” Lmfao.
@@Xtraq100vet Austin is new. Columbus is an old big city compared to it.
Car centric america still obsessed with the automobile
Simon it’s 108 degrees rn in Austin do you wanna get out and walk 10 miles to downtown and back to show us the wonders of a life without the car
I do think American cities will adapt. In the warmer Sunbelt locations like Austin, you might see the use of semi-subterranean walking areas with local gardens to combat heat. They might also be slightly heated in cooler months/days if unusual colder weather hits. I also believe transit will take hold in a bigger way, but I look for trackless trams and the like to dominate the discussion. You can dedicate a lane(s) more easily, requires less disruption of current transportation networks, and it can add a level of beauty to the area.
@@azulaquaza4916 hmm it's like almost having better land use policies where your walk is less than 15 minutes can make your walk much more doable and convenient and nice. And instead of pushing all the buildings back from the street, you can line them up against the road and have arcades (awnings that shade the sidewalk) and plant trees and have benches, trash cans and businesses and homes line it as well. Not so terrible when you don't build parking entrances and exits, pull out lanes and all the other archaic nonsense when it comes to car dominant infrastructure that requires so much land use to make the least efficient form of transportation (personal vehicles) operatable (costing way more tax payer money to keep up and maintain while also being the most damaging and less tax generating when buildings are so far spread apart, large box store offices and utilities needing to reach them)
fr. our cities and towns would look way better if they weren’t so car centric but more pedestrianized, walkable and clean
@@adnanomeragic9597 what you’re proposing is unrealistic in real time not only are you asking for a complete reshaping and designing of an entire city without taking cost or what exist already into thought you’re also wanting people to give up their large homes, downsize, squeeze in with multiple neighbors, no yards and pay the same price for something smaller are you out of your mind?
Careful what you wish for.
Why?
Columbus is only 'booming' in the context of Ohio. It would be considered stagnant by the standards of southern boomtowns. This is all relative. It's only Ohio's complete stagnation that makes it feel as if it's 'booming.'
It’s the top booming city in the Midwest. Hater or misinformed, explain that. There is a list on Google where the ppl are moving from.
@@rahimi4762 That's like being the finest ballerina in all New Mexico.
I agree Columbus is booming only as it relates to Ohio, Ohioans should trying living in Dallas, Austin or Nashville then they will see first hand it’s not a booming city compared to other US cities
and if that means we grow into a major midwestern metro without ever becoming the total and utter hot mess that Austin has become...sign me up.
@@sriig Most in Austin don't see it as a mess. They actually like it.
The airport in Columbus sucks. Too much regional jet service to ORD, BWI, LGA, Charlotte and BOS. The city needs much better air service considering the major employers in CMH (Ohio State, Battelle, Nationwide, Chase, Huntington, Wendy's, White Castle and Intel). And NO direct flights to Europe. 14th largest city in the U.S.A.
Columbus is building a new airport as we speak.
We should build one large Regional Airport Servicing Columbus, Cincinnati & Dayton located near Washington C.H., Jeffersonville, or Wilmington. With Bus Shuttle service from all 3 cities to the airport, or a rail system to the airport. It could be an Airport just a large as Chicago O'Hare, Atlanta, or Dallas Airports. Also it will reduce the plane noise from all 3 cities.
@@bororidley4769 No need for CVG or DAY. They should of not built the CVG airport in Kentucky. It should of been built halfway between DAY and Cincinnati....maybe between Middletown and Lebanon.
@@JeffBrown-pb5qr *should've ❤
Expanding the terminal does not necessarily translate into flights to Europe
Boomtown must do more segments on commuter rail and passenger public rail. I actually have the benefit of iving in Columbus Oh and Houston,Texas.
Columbus is boring. Austin is one big, traffic jam. Pick your poison.
@@fixpacifica How is Columbus boring?
Density and transit. I live in the Austin area and we lack so far behind in transit
Cities and towns that experience an economic boom always seem to have a severe housing shortage because they never prepared for it and that causes many people who have a job to sleep in their cars or commute many miles away from work and that causes traffic congestion!
As a Austin native, this is where we fail, 10:40, we do need more public transport, not larger roads. Expand public transport now, build bus light rail (I think its call bus rapid transport), light rail but using buses on its own road, save money and be smart yall.
24 year austinite here... does columbus have mass transit? a massive painpoint in austin is we have no rail and our city is cut in half by I35, and no beltway to allow communters or truckers to circumvent downtown. combined with some annoying zoning restrictions and some seriously obnoxious wealthy NIMBYs in key locations and it compounds for issues of growth and development: living centrally in austin became wildly cost prohibitive, so many people (especially minorities) either moved to the subburbs or out of the metro area all together. And with everyone now living on the edges of a city with no mass transit and terrible road design.. the city is in a constant state of playing catch up, but also doesnt want to spend the money needed to play catch up, but also property taxes are ballooning out of control because we use it (and other taxes and fees)to make up for a lack of state income tax. Also, ALL of our roads are under constant construction as a result of the influx of cars and trucks, and as you know, road maintenance costs is an incredible painpoint on city budgets.
TLDR: Build lots of rail and mixed used developments around rail. influx of ppl = influx of cars, influx of cars = spike in road maintance costs, spike in road maintance = lots of angry commuters stuck in cars wondering why their taxes are increasing and where its going, angry commuters = premium on housing located to circumvent commutes, premium on housing = people flee to outskirts of city, people fleeing to outskirts = more road maintance on roads not used to so many damn people = increase in taxes = angry commuters = etc
TLDR TLDR: youre fucked
Columbus has a "mass" bus transit service, which is rather shitty. shuts down at 10pm, services suck on weekends, and it can be an hour between buses. yeah, it sucks.
We have a way better built freeway system than Austin (there's an outerbelt to bypass downtown and plenty of freeways), but our public transit is probably worse. I don't know Austin's public transit, but Columbus's bus system is a joke and there's no light rail. It's usable if you live and work on major corridors but yeah many stops have an hour plus wait and it only runs til 10pm.
As for downtown and the nearby neighborhoods... It can get expensive, but there's still areas that can be cheap if you want to be close. We have a bit of gentrification pushing people out, it's like a donut. You have nice areas in and around downtown, then crime-ridden outer areas, then your usually nicer suburbs
The best way to remain affordable, ...no property taxes on primary residence. Tax incentives to rehab , old homes. Feng shui incorporated into new buildings. Stack and pack, no one wants, old model that eventually turns into "projects", attract crime, disincentive to entrepreneurship.
Technology companies with offices in the Austin area include Advanced Micro Devices, Microsoft, Salesforce, Tesla, SpaceX, Samsung, Informatica, SailPoint, Amazon, Apple Inc., ARM Holdings, Cisco, eBay, Meta (Facebook), Alphabet (Google), IBM, Indeed, Intel, NXP Semiconductors, PayPal, Procore, Silicon Labs, Texas Instruments, Oracle, Visa, VMWare, and many others.Dell's worldwide headquarters are located in Round Rock, a suburb of Austin.
Fantastic City, my goal
Both are typical American cities. From a distance they look fantastic, but when you get up close it's a... fractal.
The Columbus government better make plans for its housing authority to make sure that the homeless people who have jobs have access to affordable housing because the economic growth that is expected to come along with the influx of new employees and their employers.
It’s crazy how similar they look
Chicago
No thank you...grew up in Columbus lived in Austin 25 years ago...both were so much better as medium size cities. Both have no soul now.
PAY OLE WILSON ASAP
Gotta build housing fast!!
Columbus needs light rail in order to grow grow.
Columbus airport is suck, We need a direct flight from CMH to major city in Asia like Shanghai Tokyo or Hong Kong.
GO BUCKEYES!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go blue.
@@randalelliott7625I'm gay
As I understand Austin, there's a lot of homeless folks around?
Because they are attracted to the cities laxness with them similar to California
"A lot" is an understatement. However, it is not just Austin, it is Dallas, San Antonio, Houston, and in small towns in TX due to the increasing divide between the rich and poor. Homeless people are not attracted to cities, they are created from within large and small cities. Not to mention the drug epidemic; OHIO better be prepared for that as well, i.e. the growing crime rate that comes with rapid growth. IMHO.
What is there to compare? Sanctuary city is what both are and expect the crime to increase.
Columbus is way better.
Lived in Columbus for most of my life but now here in Austin for a few years. There are a lot of similarities but there isn’t as many tech jobs in Columbus (I’m aware of the datacenters). There also is close to no gang violence here, the same cannot be said about Columbus.
Texas is very close to becoming the next CA, they even have a "high speed rail" somewhere on the ballot down there if I'm not mistaken - that was exactly the moment CA turned into a disaster of overburdensome regulations. It's projected cost and actual cost are SO far apart I wonder if it was done by design, to help bankrupt CA.
Good luck down there in Texas, I'm sure you got a lot of great newcomers to help spread unity among the state...
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Columbus is not as liberal and left leaning as Austin. Stop trying to make it so
I’m sorry, but shouldn’t crime rates be lowered before you start focusing on something like this? (Not trying to debate, just asking for a simple answer.)
There’s no amount of legislation that will stop crime.
"hey, im the city gov, you need to stop doing crime for this to happen"
so bc crime happens in a city, they shouldn't build housing?, seems a bit counter-intuitive
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Downtown Austin looks 20x more active and healthy while Columbus looks dead in all its shots where tf are the million residents of Columbus?
They are in the suburbs. It does not have a vibrant downtown city vibe. Cincinnati and Cleveland have many more people living or moving to their downtowns...that said Columbus has many nice suburbs.
@@dsdwtn5911 Downtown Columbus is not very nice. Even Indy is better.
columbus's inner ring neighborhoods are far more vibrant than its downtown. And not for a lack of effort, they are trying to make downtown happen. It is not developing at a breakneck pace but it is doing so at a steady clip. And much more sustainably than Austin imho. Shoutout to our winters for keeping too many people from moving here.
@@azulaquaza4916 damn I actually like downtown Columbus and it’s building. Arena District, Penninsula etc
@@dsdwtn5911 downtown Cleveland and Cincy are dead too
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Austin lost its character, now is full of copy and paste buildings that all look the same.
those buildings give it character, the californians that moved to austin improved it greatly
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