Adrian Newey to leave Red Bull? New F1 bombshell explained
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- Опубліковано 4 тра 2024
- Formula 1 design legend Adrian Newey could depart Red Bull with speculation rife he wants to leave and potentially make a sensational move to a rival team.
Newey has been a cornerstone of Red Bull’s rise to one of F1’s best teams and its current domination of the new ground effect era.
Leaving Red Bull would mark the end of an era that even surpasses Lewis Hamilton’s time and success at Mercedes - and beg the question of where Newey goes next and the seismic impact that could have on F1 if he did join a rival team.
00:00 Adrian Newey to leave Red Bull?
02:43 The Horner situation
04:21 Longer-term tension
05:30 Where will Newey go?
07:15 Where would it leave Red Bull?
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Imagine Newey going to Aston Martin, building a championship winning car and Stroll still dropping out of Q2 every race weekend
So perez mk2
That's would be rough for sure
It's entirely possible
Reuniting with Honda....and if Verstappen moves to AM....that would finally kick Troll Jr out......
They would get rid of Stroll because they wouldn't waste Newey.
Stroll shouldn't be driving.
So Dietrich was actually the one holding everything together. It's all kicking off this year
Indeed he was. I have never understood what Marko does at that team.
@@elta6241In theory, he's the Red Bull junior team boss
@@elta6241 The same thing Lauda did with Mercedes, influence. Although Lauda was a 3x world champion, idk what significant achievements Marko did to get his role.
Marko is a Le Mans winner, as a racer show the man some damn respect
I don't see how anyone would be proud and happy working for the smug, arrogant twerp who is currently Team Principal.
Ferrari and Aston Martin are the 2 most likely options with Audi being a dark horse.
McLaren. McLaren are the team with the environment unlike the rest. Mercedes has Allison, Ferrari has politics and is distant in Maranello, and Aston couldn’t be colder and more old school if they tried, which Newey hates. McLaren is wholesome and a massive team with potential, and the driving factors that pushed him away are so far gone it’s almost a new team.
@@snowtrooper8817 As a McLaren fan, I'd love to see Newey back at the MTC, but I have a feeling that Ferrari will be aggressive in their attempt to get him on board.
@@liukin95 I see no reason why McLaren can’t. Issue is Ferrari has the inherent problems which Newey hates. Politics, and geography.
Audi would be so cool tho
I agree, but i see McLaren as a viable option as well.
I'd put 90% odds on newey just retiring.
He has spent all his live on the cutting edge of competition, giving 110% for 45 years. He's 65years old as of today, my own dad has retired at 58. Give this man a break.
I think the only thing he's joining is the local golf club and goddamn he's earned it.
Nah fuck it let's give him more success with other teams
He has a sick yacht to sail, let's not forget that.
People like him don't like to sit. They hate not having a big project of some kind. I think it's 50/50 as to whether or not he retires or starts something new with another team.
Dude can see air flow, he loves himself designing some fancy cars--his job is his R&R.
red bull fan detected
Netflix has 20 episodes already
I don't think Marko or RBR would want that, maybe one or two is enough.
Adrian recently brought an Oyster 885 sailing yacht. He's probably going on a circumnavigation sooner rather than later.
They think he spend the 5 million and is going to sail around the world when he is almost 80
Ever heard of the term "gardening leave"? If he leaves Red Bull, he will have at least a year to do all the sailing he wants. I am pretty sure a year is more than enough to satisfy his love for sailing. Just because he has bought a boat, it doesn't mean he will spend 24/7 on the boat for years on end.
@@Rascalluccihe has a contract till 2025 and another year of gardening leave so no joining other f1 team until 2027
@@freeuse515 but the existence of this video proves that there's a clause that can be broken which then can make him leave early
@@freeuse515 Does it really matter? If you are Ferrari and you know you will be getting Newey in 2027, are you saying they won't wait? LOL. Listen, if they don't mind hiring a 40 year old Hamilton, I am pretty sure they won't mind waiting for another couple of years for Newey if they have to. Because what is the alternative? Miss out on Newey again?! I don't think so somehow. LOL. Besides, it will probably be good for Newey to take a short break after all these years to feel refreshed and recharged before stepping through the doors of the Scuderia to take on his next challenge.
Imagine if Newey went to Williams. That'd be such a massive shake-up. I'd love to see them return to form.
Its unlikely, but I'd love to see it happen. Although I would have liked it more if the Williams family still owned the team.
I don't think he can do anything there. The car is one thing, the entire team as a whole is average if not bellow average at best
Oh yeah daddy Voules and Adrian thats my spank bank filled up
Adrian Newey designs the best car ever but it never manages to score a point because Williams got the parts lost in a spreadsheet somewhere
He has already given them a championship. And there is too much missing there to compete.
Listening to RB about the state of someone's contract is as useful as listening to Hamilton about the state of his tires.
Lol, yep!
underrated comment.
😂
Let me leave a comment, so I can come back later
Car feels slow maaayn
If he isn’t retiring, Aston is the most likely choice. Being reunited with his Valkyrie and Dan Fallows, along with being able to work with Alonso makes more sense than Ferrari
Ferrari road car and a blank paycheck clears any package Aston can offer. Working with Hamilton and Leclerc also seems way better than dealing with Alonso AND Stroll.
Nah...Ferrari first
Aston has already made an offer....Before this announcement! and it was rejected
I agree. I do believe Max has an exit clause if Newey leaves; which makes me think Max will follow. If that’s true/realistic, Max can’t go to Ferrari, BUT he can go to AM. Lawrence Stroll will surely drop his kid for two driver champions.
@@theoneandonlybosableNewey doesn’t care about money, and Ferrari factory is in rural Italy. But if he does go with Ferrari it would be absolutely epic
He's bought a superyacht for cruising around the Mediterranean. I think he's going to retire, and maybe do a little consulting.
i'd love to see him stick around, anywhere and any team, but i agree. i think if these reports are true, he's done. best to step down when you're on the top. like it couldn't get any better than this.
and what is stuck right in the middle of the Mediterranean? Surrounded by sea on three sides, warm weather, sunny days, best food and wine? I mean, if I wanted to enjoy a yacht in the Mediterranean there ain't that many better choices.
Then start his own super car company running h shift pure ICE engines like Gordon Murry is doing. Or they can join forces with Brawn and Allison, hire some fresh talent and start a new British super car / trackday toy company!
Believe me retirement is probably the last thing on his mind unless it's health related. 15 years ago I retired and bought a bankrupt farm. The one thing I want now I'm older is a new challenge.
I think this is the most likely outcome.
I think it'd be neat to see Adrian at F1 proper, like Brawn switched to, let him help influence the entire grid of cars for the next for years and everyone of them can have a bit of that Newey magic and hopefully lift the whole field up.
How many years!?
This is actually a great idea
he might actually help with the shit regulations in 2026
This is the best idea.
Agreed, the best thing to happen to F1 was Brawn going to F1 proper, Newey joining him to make the rule book better would be amazing.
Newey also enjoys working with Honda and Honda is going to Aston Martin. But Honda has said they do not want Lance in the Car and Newey would likely make the same demand
so do Max and Adrian go to Aston?
@@eastbaystreet1242Max and Fernando in the same team 👀
@@eastbaystreet1242 I wouldn't be surprised if Tsunoda is AM bound, or if Honda has another kid in their stable they want to give the seat to. I can't imagine Krack will put up with Jos since he seems to be a package deal with Max.
@@eastbaystreet1242I don't think Aston needs Max. Maybe in a few years but with the right car, Alonso could easily deliver a championship. I don't think Maxes team are as shrewd as Hamiltons and it's likely when he does jump ship from Red Bull, which I think will happen for 2026, he will have fewer options that he would probably want.
@@pato10111lol… everyone want max. It’s not where max can go it’s where max wants to go. Ferrari would kick your over the hill Hamilton into retirement if they can get max.
Bro is so obsessed with aerodynamics that he got that aerodynamic cut what a legend 🫡
"Newey is know to have felt he was much more influential than perhaps given credit for."
Really? Because he repeatedly seemed to downplay his involvement and seemed quite humble.
Easy to be humble when everyone is praising you. When people start saying you ain't that big of a deal, that's when the "now hang on a minute" attitude really starts to surface.
@@mrgalaxy396 smart people like Newey doesn't have that mentality
@@mrgalaxy396
I agree with you, especially the latter part.
It is possible to be bothhumble, playing down one's importance, and to feel one hasn't been given due credit - WITHIN THE TEAM/ORGANISATION!
@@mrgalaxy396this is complete nonsense
@@gordowg1wg145what a load of bull.. Newey was working part time at RBR to be able to do other developments outside F1 like the Red Bull Ocean sailing boat and the RB17 DREAM CAR without any restrictions which is allowed to develop with free reign at RB….
Newey was credited and valued from day 1. He ALWAYS looks for new challenges! And he didn’t like the F1 2026 regulations one bit… he might just design a HYPERCAR for Ferrari next or something! He is abt challenging himself,his brain. He doesn’t care abt anything else.
Forget Schumacher, Hamilton, Senna, Fangio, Clark or any other driver, Adrian Newey is the GOAT of F1, and it's not even close.
ppl don’t realise that Horner already said in 2021 that they were preparing the team for when Newey would leave at some point. Mentoring engineers, building departments, Wache promotion… Wache and his team at the factory are the real full time designers…Newey was only part time. But RBR haters haven’t got a clue that RBR is already prepared
@@Redlingstein Time will tell. I think you are massively underestimating Newey's contribution. I believe that so far in his career no team has done better after he left than when he was there. The other designers and engineers at RBR have not yet had to do it without Newey's guidance, so it is impossible to say how well the team will do if/when he leaves.
Imagine he goes to Andretti.
That’s if f1 let them come
The man is already 65… Andretti will try again in 2028… he is 69 then 😂
We are living in some strange times, someone should make a Netflix series about all these offtrack dramas.
Know what? I’m starting to believe Joss when he said that Horner staying around would implode the team…there’s more going on behind the scenes and more than Max wasn’t happy with Horner’s behavior.
It seems to me that Horner would rather see RBR fall apart than lose power.
Jos and Marko would drive even the most humble man crazy.
Typical Toxic middle management
The confidence of even journalists to use the phrase "beg the question" without having a clue what it means has always baffled me.
The confidence of random people to post nonsense and show an embarrassing misunderstanding of language in comments sections has always baffled me to be fair.
You need to learn to appreciate that language evolves over time and that the usage of the phrase "beg the question" is no longer limited to the narrow Aristotlean logical fallacy you are presumably referring to. It's now used much more broadly, more or less synonymous with "invites the question".
Calling Scott a journalist is rather generous.
@@patmanrick languages evolve over time because dumb people hear a phrase that sounds smart and then they use it incorrectly. Then midwits like you with no standards will defend their incorrect use of language until nothing means anything. The fact that this happens is not a good thing.
@@Ruylopez778 in my book it's pretty much the worst thing you can call someone. In this instance I mean "someone who thinks they know how to write."
@@patmanrick Language is corrupted over time***
Leaving RB yes. Going to another team....maybe .....maybe not. @ 66 years old after this season he may retire . He has said that he has no love for the 2026 Spec cars. Of course every Ham fan wants him in Italy
I think Ferrari fans want him in Italy
Of course every hater doesn’t want him at Ferrari
@@johnjohnrice585Aston/McLaren/Ferrari fans will be salivating at the chance that he joins their favourite team or whoever has their favourite driver. Ferrari seems unlikely cause he’d have to move to Italy tbh, idk about the others.
@@MythicalDustso you know neweys current mind set. What other insider secrets can you give us.
@@jeffsteyn7174 I just said it seemed unlikely, get over yourself. Clearly it was an opinion
Audi, Hulkenberg, Newey, Sainz, Seidl 🔥🔥🔥 the most underrated expection.
Yep I image VW will be sending a few Porsche and Lamborghini engineer ringers to Audi F1 also, VW knows European motorsport quite well so hopefully Audi won't be a Toyota or BMW all over again. The real death nail is if they use their business connect to get Rimac to make their electrical systems!
Imagine being so good as a designer/engineer, your (potential) transfer is talked about like a driver transfer. Can't decide whether I'd put Chapman or Newey on the #1 spot.
This is a lot of speculation, BUT: If bad comes to worse, and Red Bull F1 as it is now falls apart at the top, will that prompt Max to move to another team as well? I'd love to see him in a team like Aston Martin are right now (imagine a Verstappen/Alonso pairing). Solid midfielders with a lot of potential. We've all seen what Max can do in a top car. I really want to see what he could do in a midfield one. Then again, someone of his caliber will probably always race for one top team or another, unless he wants to pull a Schumacher.
Newey is by far the most successful designer based on the stats. He's had more titel winnig cars than anyone else.
It would be fascinating to see a top driver like Max in an upper-midfield car like Aston. I might have to actually buy an Aston (but not likely - love my AMG).
Max in a midfield car would see him go back to his crashtappen era
I'm thinking Max to Mercedes, RB is losing their lead designer (along with his heir apparent in Fallows) and "surprise", yet another engine maker. If anyone thinks RBPT is anything more than essentially an oil change / spare parts outfit they are on the cope.
@@blueguy12345 Stats only mean so much. Look at Alonso. Clearly better than the numbers might tell you. Chapman introduced side pods, overhead air intakes, ground effect and more to F1. He is a large part of why the cars look like they do nowadays.
So to sum up rumors regarding RB this year: Horner is fired for misconduct, Horner gets Marko fired in power struggle, Max quits and moves to Merc, Newey quits and moves to Ferrari. Until now none of that happened and it starts to feel more like targeted media campaign than actual crisis in RB. There likely is conflict between Marko-Horner and "external forces" (Toto most likely) are trying to pour some fuel on on that small sparks expecting it to burst into huge fire.
In the meantime if I was an exec at Mercedes (car brand) I would start considering selling my 1/3 of shares in the team since it's now 3rd fastest Merc powered team on the grid. Toto is clearly incompetent and more focused on his revenge against Horner than on running his own team.
So the most likely cause of this story is that Newey plans his retirement and Toto is afraid that the only battle they can win now is the battle with Williams for the title of worst Merc powered car.
This is every Red Bull fan's worst nighttmare, and for every other F1 fan it's great news😭😂
💯
id guess they'd be more worried about max leaving
@@justinszabo5205not even close. In f1, the car is 80%, the driver is only 20%. Most of the drivers on the grid would have won the championship in the 2023 red bull if max wasnt there. Checo had an atrocious season and still easily beat any non-RB car. On the other hand, max was faultless, but still couldnt have won the championship in anything but the redbul.
@@askeladden450 Lmao, you're deluded and should be ashamed.
@@askeladden450 Yep, the chassis are made from the ground up to extract the most from the top driver, then they fiddle with the settings to get the second driver as comfortable as possible. Fans of other series have a hard time understanding the full impact a constructor has on a driver's lap times.
Ferrari would be the dream come true for Adrian. Aston Martin mostly for their switch to Honda in 2026 and a fairly good offer from Lawrence Stroll plus sponsor ARAMCO.
ARAMCO is behind the monetary offer to Adrian!! Yet I don’t think it’s a matter of money with Adrian!! I’m not even sure he won’t retire and just sail away in his new boat!!
I think Newey is more important to Red Bull than Max is. While Max is top of his game it's in large part because Newey gave him a car that allows him to be the best. Alonso and Hamilton would be champions with the Red Bull car.
And if they were alongside max they would be p2
@@loughieholt2737 You mean he could be marginally faster that two 40yo? That is truly impressive, something Lando and Charles can only dream about.
He would run circles around either of them. Neither Lewis nor Fernando are at their peak, while Max certainly is.
What a bunch of Hamilhope........
@@danieljimenez1989run circles around either of them? Get the fuck out of here. He might edge them out, but even that is pure speculation. Max has been under pressure for a championship once. Against Hamilton.
Boy, joss is really burning the midnight oil behind the scenes. He’s looking for that deep legacy and even deeper nine-figure contract.
If he's locked into RBF1 until the end of 2026, he'd be released from obligations just in time to join Andretti for 2028.
And he'll be nearly 70 by then and probably tired of such shenanigans.
@T_Mo271 yes fully aware, but as the best motorsports aero designer in the world, perhaps he doesn't want to retire if he can get all the perks he wants. Just saying, if it's his passion, maybe he continues.
@@johnwright5845 Yeah, he can just play puppet master and just consult their engineering department. Kind of like what Lauda and The Professor did. Speaking of which Alpine needs to show up to Prost's house with dump trucks full of Euros begging him to come back and fix the mess they made since he left.
thats a cute though!
Nope gardening leave can be longer than 1 year
Anyone wishing he ends up at Aston need to pull their heads in. We don't want to see Stroll in a Newey F1 car.
But Chadlonso
No, no
We do, that way Stroll's incompetence would become utterly undeniable, paving the way for him finally being kicked out.
I'd like to see Newey in Aston but if that happens there is no way Stroll leaves (unless Newey says he joins only if they replace Stroll).
If by a miracle Newey joins and Stroll stays... wanna bet Aston will be ordered to sabotage Alonso?
Tbh I think Newey would want stroll to be gone sooner rather than later
Hear hear! That spoilt brat on a podium would be too much to take!
If he goes to Aston, he's got to have driver veto rights. And insist Lance leaves the team, never to return.
This is why Ferrari, who, although have had questionable driver lineups, presently makes more sense.
It's nice to see an engineer to have so much respect and power within an organisation.
This year has made me truly believe fred vasseur is the first ferrari boss in ages to think “hang on a minute, we’re ferrari, everyone wants to work for us, we could just try and get the truly top figures in f1”
Can literally hear how the Race are licking their lips at this news
Same with a ton of F1 fans tbh.
He probably wants to get in to the America' cup. He has a deep passion for sailing.
If true and it seems so, this is way way bigger news than any driver move
Please come to Haas😂
If he was really great he would. 😉
Andretti Cadillac
Or Audi
I hope he goes to Alpine to fix them, that would be a real project!
@@BiggieTrismegistus That will be the fasted way Andretti GM will get on the grid. Pun intended 😅
So Jos Verstappen tried to gain more power into the team kicking Horner and now the team is losing his best asset due to the internal fight, priceless.
lol clueless
Yes exactly this, Jos Vertsappen is who really pulls the strings in F1 and at the FIA. He's been the mastermind of Max's success this whole time through his vice grip on the sport.
I know, he really make his own bed lool
Jos isnt a smart man. He really isnt. Everybody that listened to him before Max was a teen known what im talking about (where he didnt get smarter, but quieter).
So i can totally see him outplaying himself that hard.
Jos will bash Adrian if he tries to leave
Newey should only go to Aston on the condition that they drop Lance Stroll, why go to an unserious team.
But really just go to Ferrari or retire, a Ferrari win is the best thing that could happen to/in F1
Alonso winning a championship is what F1 needs actually....newey already said he would want to work with nando....hope he joins them...
@@souldevil6997 100% it makes more sense for newey to stay in England than move to Italy plus Honda deal with Aston Martin to with Alonso there surely that is the easier and wiser move for him than going to an unknown in Italy
I reckon that if he goes to another team, it will be Aston Martin. "Here you go, have all the money, go build a hypercar, stay in Europe, input what you want into the F1 team"
"all Red Bull has said officially" in response to being asked if Newey had said he wanted to leave as was claimed by media.
By his own admission Newey has a consulting role at RB at the moment.
He only works PART TIME at RBR yes…a few hours. He also has other projects outside of RBR.
He will go to audi in 2026 to make Hulkenberg F1 champion. You saw it here first.👀
🧢
Or at least a podium!
Hulk is not a championship material, look at his career. He is beating Magnussen and everyone thinks he is a superstar.
That would be awesome, but I'm sure Audi Sport has great designers that can study a set of regulations and find clever things to make.
I'd love to see Newey go to haas to make a design department spring up from scratch for them
Ferraris average performance is 100.389% vs RB. Very precise. Are the 3 decimal places needed? We've only had 5 races
Newey to Andretti, let's stick it to F1
That’s the only way they’d succeed
That would be awesome actually
would be brilliant. but seems unlikely.
Lewis Hamilton finishing up in red with a Newey car is the most storybook climax imaginable to a legendary career. Not many sportspeople get to finish up on their own terms.
😂😂😂 Newey works part time at RBR… he has other interests as well. He isn’t gonna work full time anywhere at his age of 65 😂
Much better commentary than the Sky F1 vids
His 65 now he could be just simply retiring from all motor sport entirely or just leaving f1 entirely, tho if he does go to another team wow good on him.
Well that escalated quickly. I had thought Horner and Red Bull figured out a way to bury this.
its literally more rumors being presented as facts.. max and redbull made some people quite angry i suppose.. they do make them look foolish so i can see where the motive for so many of the rumors come from.. they want to throw redbull off balance.
@@notastone4832 It does, but at the same time, the dominance kind of takes most of the edge off of the embarrassment. At least to me. I have hated RBR for a long time, but dang if they have the best car and some of the fastest pit stops. If anyone closes and passes them over the season, there may be more to the rumors. But until then, my condemning thoughts are muted by their results.
It’s not the ‘scandal’ it’s the politics why he’s leaving
@notastone4832 it's been reported by every media outlet that covers F1 do you think none of them check their facts or have sources?
@@kityhawk2000 I'll wait until it happens. And then we see how important he was as the season progresses.
wow... they finally succeeded, to tear apart this perfect team... first being with max's dad then christian then max and now newey... it's kinda disgusting... once you are first they are doing everything thjey can to knock you down... call me crazy but i don't remember the other teams being so bloodthirsty when mercedes was dominating... and it doesn't even feel like the other teams are being so thirsty to knock them down... its the media with all these freaking rumours....
You're crazy.
Really? Christian has always been a whining little git when they weren't winning
Red Bull even threatened to leave F1 if the rules weren't changed to help them win
Lol yeah blame anyone but Redbull for their own self destruction. They have everything they could possibly want right now but somehow they're the poor little victims 😂😂
Well imagine .. too bad he can't work outside of Red bull till 2027 .. this has rhe feels of when toto was saying Verstappen is leaving for Mercedez .. start a rumor and hope it becomes true
just got himself a brand new boat so probably looking to do some proper sailing now
Oh god, here we go!
A Newey designed car for Ferrari would be amazing.
Crazy!!! They say winning cures all drama or turmoil in a sports franchise except at Redbull 🙃 . You would think that all these titles would make people forget drama within the team.
Time for Adrian to dip and enjoy his new boat, he's got an enormous amount of achievements throughout his career. Finishing on a high streak before 2026 shakeup would be the way to go.
F1 is fast becoming FSO (Formula Soap Opera)
You must be new here
Since Liberty Media has taken over F1 there seems to be more drama. Now that they have bought MotoGP it will likely suffer the same fate. Sad really.
This is not new.
WHAT?!
Is
Happening?!
Wild season off track!
I blame Horner.
@@garythefishable it really does seem like he's high on his own supply, he's convince the Thai owners, we'll just have to see.
I dont think this bodes well for Max staying either, what I remember him saying was he liked 'stability' and this aint it
Stop being melodramatic
@@HanSoloxcs no
Of course not. SMOKE
I wouldn't be surprised if Newey mentioned retiring in passing to one of his colleagues and they took it of context, and now here we are
Leta set this right. "Many fans" do not care about the Horner drama.
The guy who said that no single individual is bigger than the team is going to be left holding the bag after believing he's too big to leave the team and driving everyone else away.
spot. on.
@@mr.iceman_ ego. ego. ego. it will get you every time.
ppl don’t realise that Horner already said in 2021 that they were preparing the team for when Newey would leave at some point. Mentoring engineers, building departments, Wache promotion… Wache and his team at the factory are the real full time designers…Newey was only part time. But RBR haters haven’t got a clue that RBR is already prepared
‘Everybody’ is leaving??? 😂 Everybody is still there … Newey at 65 of age might be leaving, that’s it.
ppl don’t realise that Horner already said in 2021 that they were preparing the team for when Newey would leave at some point. Mentoring engineers, building departments, Wache promotion… Wache and his team at the factory are the real full time designers…Newey was only part time. But RBR haters haven’t got a clue that RBR is already prepared
@@eastbaystreet1242ppl don’t realise that Horner already said in 2021 that they were preparing the team for when Newey would leave at some point. Mentoring engineers, building departments, Wache promotion… Wache and his team at the factory are the real full time designers…Newey was only part time. But RBR haters haven’t got a clue that RBR is already prepared
He wants to leave red bull because of the power struggle and Horner's huge ego....
Yea that makes sense after 20 years, you are just of the many examples of what is wrong with the gazillion new dumb and hateful a-typical motorsport fans, you can’t even come up with something that makes sense.
This whole power struggle stuff seems like a totally made up excuse. The man is probably just retiring just to get a break from the demanding F1 circus
@@mrRTvids Because it kinda is. Sky Media just didnt stop speaking about it.
Horner is CEO and Teamboss. Period. Has nothing to do with ego.
Jos and Fiona made false complaint to get rid of him cos Jos wanted more power at RBR… that backfired on Fiona. Horner is rightfully the boss!!
@@Redlingstein Jos wanted more power ? He has no power, he has nothing to with RBR other than he is sponsored by RB himself with his rally car, and he cares about his kid, Jos gave his opinion on the situation, nothing more nothing less, the Verstappen are Dutch and not British, no back stabbing, say in your face what they think and move as the Dutch do.
I mean all official sources has dismissed the rumors, so this is hardly credible.
It would be spectacular if we went back to Williams. Its easy to go to a front of the pack team and win...but to bring a team that is absolutely atrocious back from the dead and lead them to a championship would cement his legend. Plus the storybook ending would be amazing.
FERRARI, AUDI, ASTON
I am now dreaming of a Newey Ferrari with Lewis and Charles driving!
Plan L, Plan L, we are 10 sec ahead of everyone else... box now for wet tire...
I'd love to see him go to Ferrari too. If successful, it would be epic to witness. If a disaster, it would be hilarious. lol
@@Mike.W.Dasher
sarà pazzesco! (it will be crazy)
Dream team
Imho, he would be going to AM. Remember that Nando recently signed a contract there. Could be possible that he was told that Newey would be joining them.
All good companies try to future proof their set up and not be dependent on a single employee (even the owner). For Horner to change the set up so it is not entirely dependent on Newey is essential to future proof the team.
He already prepared for this!
ppl don’t realise that Horner already said in 2021 that they were preparing the team for when Newey would leave at some point. Mentoring engineers, building departments, Wache promotion… Wache and his team at the factory are the real full time designers…Newey was only part time. But RBR haters haven’t got a clue that RBR is already prepared
Am I the only that consider that Horner became detrimental to RB at this stage? I mean, all this power struggle + reputation risks have clearly made proper performance people like Adrian and the Verstappens unhappy and willing to consider other options
The dynasty was likely to be over in 2026 anyways, it's gonna be tough for RBPT to produce the best engine on the grid on their first try even with Ford's help against the likes of Honda, Mercedes and Ferrari. Even Audi has some serious hybrids pedigree. May as well cash in now while the team is at its prime. Horner in more power would make some ridiculous cash from it, not to mention the ego stroking, even if RBR goes to shit a few years from now, so from his POV it's totally worth it and no one can really stop him since the Thai's don't really give a shit about the RBR team's success.
@@mrgalaxy396 Fair take. I wouldn't go as far as to assume that at this point, but your logic does stand
Nope Jos is the problem not Horner. Jos and Fiona made the false complaint…
No need to worry about the gardening leave. Remember that under the cost cap, Newey isn't even an employee, he's a contractor. hahaha j/k of course
He is a consultant, part time at RBR.
ppl don’t realise that Horner already said in 2021 that they were preparing the team for when Newey would leave at some point. Mentoring engineers, building departments, Wache promotion… Wache and his team at the factory are the real full time designers…Newey was only part time. But RBR haters haven’t got a clue that RBR is already prepared
I can't understand why Newey doesn't have a contract that gives him freedom to leave. He must have been able to negotiate almost anything he wanted when he joined RB in exchange for his services.
I don't think he'll stay in F1 if he leaves RBR. What does he have left to prove in F1? What hasn't he already done? He wasn't super enthusiastic about the new-for-2022 regulations and now he's had a hand in the new dominator anyway. I think he'll either retire or go to a series with more design freedom in its regulations.
Or, just work at whichever OEM will let him do the hypercar he seemingly didn't get done his way at Aston Martin and wants to do again (hence RB17). Or maybe he'll do an LMH or a Pikes Peak car or something, that'd be cool.
Horner was targeted and it didn't work out like planned
Exposed*
@@befalcon9498IT WAS A FALSE COMPLAINT BY FIONA AND….. JOS. Horner was targeted!!!!
@@befalcon9498 Exposed as based
"could" and "speculation" are the keywords to sum up this entire clickbait video.
SO MUCH BS and guesses
Yeahh i normally come to this channel for concrete news
The Race in a nutshell
Newey was of course apprenticed to Patrick Head, another genius, remember his active suspension? As groundbreaking as Chapman’s ground effect, so good it got banned. Maybe a homecoming to Williams is the challenge, from zero to hero so to speak. He doesn’t need the money, he does need the challenge and the noterietay attached to such a project. Road cars and yachts are a side show compared to F1.
If Newey indeed goes anywhere else, Red Bull will still have Waché and Enrico Balbo, but of which are said to have had a much bigger impact than AN in these generation of cars. I mean, yes, it is still Adrian Newey we are talking about, but he is just the tip of the iceberg. Teams should be going after the people UNDER him, like Aston did with Fallows and McLaren with Pedromou years ago. These are the backbones of the teams.
He reportedly said no to Aston... (Unless the offer gets bumped to the Billions)
So I'm picking Ferrari with Charles and Lewis.
pick 2 is Audi with Hulk and Sainz
Ferrari seems like the obvious choice. It's the only big-name team he's never worked with (technically he hasn't worked for Merc as a works outfit but he did when they were supplying McLaren). He can work with Lewis, a driver he respects, and he can spend his final years in F1 working in sunny Italy instead of drizzly Milton Keynes. Seems like a pretty good deal all round.
He said no to Aston when he was already saying no to everyone including Ferrari. This is a new situation.
@@craigcharlesworth1538 It's all about what he want to do ..? Retire and race vintage F1 cars or Place another King Stamp of his designs.. time will tell but I wish him well.
@@gpaje He burnt his bridges with Ferrari..
Newey to Aston? 👀
not with the Stroll family there, unless Sir Lawrence Stroll want's a WDC then it's possible
Why is everyone acting like newey going to a new team would make that team better right away. It be years for his influence to be felt with a new design from ground up, and I'm sure Red Bull has learned enough from his time at Red Bull that him leaving is not a death blow. There may have been a time that only him knew about f1 aero, but don't kid your self red bulls sim and Aero. department knows his secrets by now. I hate redbulls' dominant car, but I think neweys influence is being overstated in 2024
exactly! 😂 ppl don’t realise that Horner already said in 2021 that they were preparing the team for when Newey would leave at some point. Mentoring engineers, building departments, Wache promotion… Wache and his team at the factory are the real full time designers…Newey was only part time. But RBR haters haven’t got a clue that RBR is already prepared
Well said!
If this really true that Newey doesn't want to retire/focus on RB17, then as Sebastian Vettel simply put " We have to remember these days, because there's no guarantee that they will last forever, enjoy them while they last, i love you guys " 😢
Newey/Alonso would be good
How much longer do you think Alonso will be in f1?
@@Karma2Babylonas long as he drives to this level, he will stay. The purpose of a driver is to extract the highest potential of the car, not to be young. Alonso has everything needed to fight for a championship, except the car.
Newey to Audi. You heard it here first!
It has to be a team like that. The more chances of more teams in the top the better. If he joined Ferrari that just changes who dominates, not fun.
Plus with neweys contract clause he can't join a team until 2026, when Audi comes in, perfect timing
Nope , heard it in several places before you, your no where near first.
Newley wants a challenge not a decade long building of a team. Ferrari is the spot he’s going
@@chrisg5101 very good point: he probably doesn't want to spend another decade. maybe a few more years.
He is a great engineer. No doubt. I don't think this will leave as much of a dent as people think.
The way I see it, I think there's three options:
1) He's going to Ferrari
2) He's going to Aston Martin
3) He'll pack it in altogether, citing the new regulations as the reason for his departure.
I think he’s going to Ferrari. He about to get his new oyster sailboat and plans on sailing the Mediterranean long term. Where best to start that trip.
Yeah if he doesn't retire Ferrari or Merc seem like the most logical options
So begins the end of RBR’s dominance. Losing a star car designer and egos and politics bursting at the seems. There is a famous corporate saying that “no one is irreplaceable” but no successful organisation survives internal wars for long.
You are SO WRONG 😂😂😂😂 ppl don’t realise that Horner already said in 2021 that they were preparing the team for when Newey would leave at some point. Mentoring engineers, building departments, Wache promotion… Wache and his team at the factory are the real full time designers…Newey was only part time. But RBR haters haven’t got a clue that RBR is already prepared
Everyone is going to try to predict where he goes, personally I think its really a toss up. Everyone is going to offer him incredibly lucrative offers.
History shows that when Newey leaves a team, that team goes into a steady decline. Leyton House didnt last long, Williams almost immediately declined, clawed back to almost the top before completely declining whereas McLarens decline took a bit longer. I'd like to see Newey back at Williams, that would be an interesting move.
The most shocking news for me is he is only paid 10m/year.
If true that’s amazing. He’s worth soooo much more. Then I could see him going to another team for way more money.
He only works PART TIME AT RBR……
@@hammer-rhe only works PART TIME at RBR….
You don’t know that Newey only works part time at RBR??? He works only a few hours for that money actually…
I still can’t get over those photos that Horner sent to his employee. Why was it so red?! 😂
Lots of friction :D
1) You haven't seen the photo's
2) Ever heard of fake photo's?
So be a good chap, wind your neck in and stop posting BS!
@@jackdominiak445 bro, under what rock have you been hiding if you haven't seen the photos? :D there's at least 1 google drive with all the leaked pictures and messages, easily found through google
warning! one of them contains a picture of one of horners tits! scarred for life :d
@@jackdominiak445 there's a google drive with all of it on the internet! google for it and you shall see AAALLLLL the photos and messages
@@jackdominiak445 it's all very easy to find on google ;) took me 1 search
I think he might be retiring. Look what his car achieved last year, it broke all the records and achieved practically everything. Is there anything left for him to do in F1? It's beyond doubt that he is the greatest car designer ever.
Aston, Audi, Ferrari? maybe but what else can they offer him other than F1.
Aston and Ferrari both can offer work on other cars. With Audi's structure I don't think that's possible.
Ferrari have the name and the promise of a Schumacher esque rebuild of the team.
Aston have Newey's old Valkyrie project and Honda engines which Newey is familiar with.
Any contract can be bought out, I would imagine a rival team would be willing to pay for that.
So it's going to be like this: Newey to Ferrari, Verstappen to Mercedes, Sainz to Red Bull, Hulkenberg to Audi, Ricciardo to Haas, Lawson to Cashapp thingy RB whatever, Stroll to home.
You heard it here first. You can bet on it and it will happen.
(don't bet on it, I have no idea what's going to happen lol).
Whether or not you are correct, I love your presentation.. "it will happen. (don't bet on it, I have no idea..." ) 🙂. I have to admit I'm not feeling confident about that close-parenthesis location.
Horner was cleared. Red Bull handled the situation perfectly. They investigated. Everyone’s privacy was kept. There was nothing else Red Bull could do.
Newley is important. Honda as an engine supplier is the only part that is more important.
Adrian Newey in 28 of the last 33 F1 seasons has designed the car that has finished 1st Or 2nd in the World Drivers Championship OR World Constructors Championship. The only seasons he has not won were those where the Power Unit inside of the car he designed was one of the worst on the grid
Well said
@@darwinLee81283ppl don’t realise that Horner already said in 2021 that they were preparing the team for when Newey would leave at some point. Mentoring engineers, building departments, Wache promotion… Wache and his team at the factory are the real full time designers…Newey was only part time. But RBR haters haven’t got a clue that RBR is already prepared.
Newey WAS NOT THE LEAD DESIGNER OF THE LAST SEASONS….
@@Redlingstein Adrian Newey Designed the Suspension.
Which from his Experience is the differentiating factor of a Ground effect Car.
Either Perfect the suspension or Flex the floor. Either way it needs to be balanced.
So Red Bull did give him wings?
He's never worked with Hamilton or Alonso (so far.)
Yeah, 2024 off track has been absolutely coco pops.
Plot twist: hot dog picture was Neweys and Horner took one for the team. 😂
You mean the Horndog
@@ruledtrendy5066 nice. that took me a split second. well-played.
Just The Race thinks this. Brits want Newey in another team they just hate Redbull.
Will you grow up?
@@BiggieTrismegistus Never
It's laughable that Redbull says "he has a contract!!" So did all the drivers that they've let go before their contract was up.
My money is on home stepping aside from the F1 team and work on the RB17. He was once disinterested with continuing on at Red Bull once before and Horner swayed him to continue on, by having hiked head up the Aston Valkyrie development. He likes working on road cars and maybe this could open up a whole branch of Red Bull road cars in the future. I’d love to see that.