I'd say it was even better than Hamilton's. Everyone forgets (or ignores) that Villeneuve was literally learning most of the tracks in his rookie season, he was a proper US racing product (unlike Montoya for example) and only spent time in Europe previously when he literally started racing. Yet he took the championship battle down to the final race, after a brilliant come from behind win at Estoril - which included one of the all time greatest overtakes on Schumacher - and was regularly outpacing Hill in the second half of 1996. His pole laps at Spa and Suzuka were outrageous. How many IndyCar champions have gone to F1 and lit it up the way Villeneuve did immediately and won the World Championship? One other, Mario Andretti. It's a very short list... JV is unique. Very unique actually and his open wheel triple feat is quite frankly legendary.
Rookies (1&2) in name only. One man debut as a professional champion Indy driver now sitting in the best F1 car on the grid at the time. Nigel did the opposite and became a champion also. These old hands should not be compared to genuine green horns. Would you put a 28 year old up against his 14 year old self and ignore the 14 years of strength and development of the 28 year old to prevail over his younger less experience opponent? Should be an impressive victory without question. At minimum an asterisk should be attached to the names of these college grade high school participants. Just Saying.
@@yolandalindsay8368 you're right to a degree. But if you take Villeneuve's career trajectory in context, what he did was pretty special. Never karted as a kid, didn't start racing anything until the age of 18... was on pole position for his debut F1 race at age 24...having already won a CART IndyCar championship/Indy 500 double. Of course nobody ever looks at his career like that. But they should... because it was pretty spectacular and unique. You won't ever see that repeated the way he did it.
@@housesports000 he was more than competitive. From 1998 through to 2000, he had some truly heroic qualifying and race performances in absolute shitboxes. JV was in the top 3 drivers in the world for a 6 year period (1995 - 2000). BAR was a nice dream, in which he owned a stake in the team. But he really should have gone to McLaren instead when he had the chance.
The timing was perfect. All other top team swap drivers or engine. The most skilled man axel himself down by going to a rebuilding team. His only rival was his team mate... and not a particulary fast one, let's admit it.
Let's not forget that Vettel still also holds the record for the fastest penalty in an F1 career... During his very first test at the Turkish GP in 2006, he managed to speed in the pitlane, getting his first penalty when his official F1 career was only 6 seconds old!
Youngest to break the pit lane speed limit, was the youngest to win a race and podium, still the youngest pole sitter, youngest first time, double, triple & quadruple champion.
Damon was at least quicker than Andrea Moda. The Belgian authorities were, too as it turns out. Bernie, on the other hand....was not fast enough to realize what was going on and got suckered into helping them out, the story goes
I swear your videos have been some of my favourite F1-related content ever. Very understandable, to the point and informative. You have a talent for videos like these mate
@@elonmusk9697 Not "it"... him. First F1 champion, aged 44. Other times, cars and men. And what good does it do to discuss Nino Farina if it's only me? It's a discussion... not a TED talk...
Jacques Villeneuve’s 1996 debut season is absolutely insane, I’m glad people are giving him the credit he deserves. Hamiltons 2007 debut season was equally as impressive, especially seeing as he finished higher than his reigning double world champion teammate
@@kj48tiger 1996, yeah the Ferrari was a dog that year, Michael managing to wins driving that car was crazy. Yeah I guess that’s true as well, there was more competition in 2007 than 1996
If only Villeneuve had been more patient, so much wasted potential; but at least he got world champion. Couldnt have been at Ferrari unless he and Micheal could have fought for real. Wish he had signed with McLaren instead of launching B.A.R.
Great video, many thanks. 2:15 on Andretti: "Hoosier" race name means someone from Indiana, pronounced "Hoo-zher," 2 syllables blended together. Ain't no Hoo-shee-ay in 'Murica 🙃
Kinda knew that Farina would be number 1 lol also I woulda switched Button and Verstappen, leaving the drivers between as they are, as well as drop Rosberg down one or two spots
I think Farina, Fangio and Ascari shouldn't belong to this list, because... it wasn't their actual debut. They raced on top for many years (especially Farina) on pre-war cars, so their "debut" is just a continuation of their careers
Hold up. Are we not going to mention Vettel's debut F1 race, where he broke the record for fasted career penalty by flying through the pit lane at over 80mph in just a few seconds? what about the rest of that race? much disappoint.
Something that stands out here is LH started in a reliable front running car and got out qualified by his teammate. Most of the older champions started in the slowest car on the grid, destroyed there teammates and either broke down or beat a lot of much faster cars......
I apologize for what I was thinking. You stated F1 world champions. Your list is very good. I thought ( where I always fail) You left out Giancarlo Baghetti. He was not a Formula One champion. But he was the only other driver to win a Formula one race on his debut after Dr. Giuseppe Antonio "Nino" Farina. I beg your forgiveness. Arigato gozaimasu Sensei Peter Brook.😅
Why is Kimi placed so low? "Kimi was sleeping underneath a table covered by a blanket. He's told: 'Come on, get up! We have seven minutes until pit lane opens!' And he said: 'Give me another three, four minutes to sleep!" Iceman couldn’t be bothered even on his debut
I thought Andretti would be in the top 5, but I forgot about that disqualification. Nice to see Jacques in second, of course Farina is first, maybe not fair, but somebody had to win that first ever World Championship race.
Just for future vid purpose's....no one in the US calls/called USAC the "You Ess Aye See" its always been pronounced "YouSack" But i think im gonna start sayin "hoosier" as "whozeeaye"!!! Cuz thats awesome!
how the hell does Schumacher make it to 9th with a good quali and killing his clutch before turn 4 on lap 1? almost like not only the debut race is taken into account
Not sure what your criteria for the ranking is. But seems to exclude car performance team mate performance f1 practice before hand etc etc. Villeneuve ranking so high is shocking as he was training hard in an f1 car which was the best on the grid so rookie by first race yes but seat time was higher then any other rookie. Hamilton in the best car again by a mile .... yet senna who im not a fan of takes a poor car and does amazing things in it is so far back. This is obviously personal preference and has no bearing on actual performance based on the driver.
I think there’s only been 3? One of them is Farina and then there’s the winner of the 1950 Indy500, Johnnie Parsons. Obviously these two are exceptional cases since Farina won the first ever F1 race and 1950 was the first year the 500 was an f1 event (Parsons had raced in the 500 the year before). So I guess the only “true” driver who won on debut was Giancarlo Baghetti, who won on debut in a privately-entered Ferrari at the 1961 French GP. It was his only podium in 21 starts.
Hamilton's rookie season is overrated, Jacques Villeneuve almost won on his first season and won on his second season because he got the best car on debut just like him, but nobody talks about Villeneuve because he got lucky with the car and was just an average driver. Hamilton was good but based on his later McLaren years where he was finishing P5 on the standings every year there wasn't anything special going on, until mercedes built him a missile. Same thing with Rosberg, he was an average driver and nobody thought anything of him, but all of a sudden he became the 2nd best driver in one year magically and it was a coincidence when he drove for Mercedes
People forget just how good Villeneuve's rookie season was definitely up there with Hamilton's 2007
When Damon Hill and Jacques Villeneuve can fight for a championship and win it, you know the car has to be incredibly fast
I'd say it was even better than Hamilton's. Everyone forgets (or ignores) that Villeneuve was literally learning most of the tracks in his rookie season, he was a proper US racing product (unlike Montoya for example) and only spent time in Europe previously when he literally started racing. Yet he took the championship battle down to the final race, after a brilliant come from behind win at Estoril - which included one of the all time greatest overtakes on Schumacher - and was regularly outpacing Hill in the second half of 1996. His pole laps at Spa and Suzuka were outrageous.
How many IndyCar champions have gone to F1 and lit it up the way Villeneuve did immediately and won the World Championship? One other, Mario Andretti. It's a very short list...
JV is unique. Very unique actually and his open wheel triple feat is quite frankly legendary.
Rookies (1&2) in name only. One man debut as a professional champion Indy driver now sitting in the best F1 car on the grid at the time. Nigel did the opposite and became a champion also. These old hands should not be compared to genuine green horns. Would you put a 28 year old up against his 14 year old self and ignore the 14 years of strength and development of the 28 year old to prevail over his younger less experience opponent? Should be an impressive victory without question. At minimum an asterisk should be attached to the names of these college grade high school participants. Just Saying.
@@yolandalindsay8368 you're right to a degree. But if you take Villeneuve's career trajectory in context, what he did was pretty special. Never karted as a kid, didn't start racing anything until the age of 18... was on pole position for his debut F1 race at age 24...having already won a CART IndyCar championship/Indy 500 double.
Of course nobody ever looks at his career like that. But they should... because it was pretty spectacular and unique. You won't ever see that repeated the way he did it.
@@housesports000 he was more than competitive. From 1998 through to 2000, he had some truly heroic qualifying and race performances in absolute shitboxes. JV was in the top 3 drivers in the world for a 6 year period (1995 - 2000). BAR was a nice dream, in which he owned a stake in the team. But he really should have gone to McLaren instead when he had the chance.
Villeneuve's debut was insane up until the failure
The timing was perfect. All other top team swap drivers or engine. The most skilled man axel himself down by going to a rebuilding team. His only rival was his team mate... and not a particulary fast one, let's admit it.
Let's not forget that Vettel still also holds the record for the fastest penalty in an F1 career...
During his very first test at the Turkish GP in 2006, he managed to speed in the pitlane, getting his first penalty when his official F1 career was only 6 seconds old!
Someone might broke Vettel various records but this is the one that's not going to be broken.
Youngest to break the pit lane speed limit, was the youngest to win a race and podium, still the youngest pole sitter, youngest first time, double, triple & quadruple champion.
I only wish Mark Webber could have been on this list. The debut was one of the best I have ever witnessed.
another video for that i think
Monaco-based UA-camr turned F1 Champion. Who knew!
And beat Lewis Hamilton in the same machinery
Hope for Ricciardo and Leclerc :p (fun fact: Ricciardo lives in Monaco most of the time)
@@xquahd he would waste his 50 million dollar just to travel if he still lives in Australia with Spiders, Snakes and Sheep
@@rockzs74r as a resident of Australia, they are few and far between in habitable areas
I did not expect humor in your channel. Nico rosberg things 🤣
Aaaah The rosberg introduction, pure gold mate!
Maybe when Latifi becomes champion somehow one day he would be last in this video.
Latifi had a decent debut finishing P11
Gotta love how everyone mentions how good Hamilton’s 2007 season, but not villeneuves equally spectacular 1996 one
Villeneuve was destroyed by hill
Lewis beat alonso and was fighting for wdc
@@alexlacl8730 how tf is fighting for the title to the last race getting destroyed
@@alexlacl8730 Hamilton & Alonso finished level on points. Neither beat the other.
@@alexlacl8730 "Villeneuve was destroyed by Hill"
Go back to sleep 😂
@@handsolo1209 Hamilton was ranked higher because of his best positions
Damon was at least quicker than Andrea Moda.
The Belgian authorities were, too as it turns out. Bernie, on the other hand....was not fast enough to realize what was going on and got suckered into helping them out, the story goes
I swear your videos have been some of my favourite F1-related content ever. Very understandable, to the point and informative. You have a talent for videos like these mate
Farina won first race and a title in his debut season? What a legend!
Farina is not discussed enough.
not that surprising - everyone was in their debut season that year!
@@LathropLdST Then discuss it
@@elonmusk9697 Not "it"... him. First F1 champion, aged 44. Other times, cars and men.
And what good does it do to discuss Nino Farina if it's only me? It's a discussion... not a TED talk...
@@isthatrubble *sigh* honestly...
Video idea: Ranking the post F2/F3000/GP2 careers of F2/F3000/GP2 Champions
So if I understand your ranking correctly to dethrone Farina from the top spot, all a debut driver has to do is get a Grand Chelem first time out
Shouldn't be to hard
And be younger
And win a championship afterwards of course.
Jacques Villeneuve’s 1996 debut season is absolutely insane, I’m glad people are giving him the credit he deserves.
Hamiltons 2007 debut season was equally as impressive, especially seeing as he finished higher than his reigning double world champion teammate
Hamiltons 2007 was a lot more impressive than Villeneuves 1996
@@kj48tiger why a lot more? Was it because he was competing against Alonso?
@@ben6993 Not only that, Ferraris car was actually just as good. In 1997 the Williams had no competition. No debate
@@kj48tiger 1996, yeah the Ferrari was a dog that year, Michael managing to wins driving that car was crazy.
Yeah I guess that’s true as well, there was more competition in 2007 than 1996
@@ben6993 it wasnt a slow car it was just unreliable
I'm noticing that running in a good position and having a mechanical problem is a recurring theme
The introduction for Nico 😅
Thank you for not splitting this into 3 or 4 videos!
BTW USAC is usually pronounced "U Sack" and "Hoosier" is usually pronounced "Who zher"
Not what I expected, but better
Mika has to have the most underrated junior carrer ever
it's interesting how many times Nick Heidfeld is mentioned in this video
Video idea - top 20 greatest debuts
Nice to see your channel grow man :)
I subscribed when i think you had like 1k subs
Congrats to 10 000 subscribers!
You deserve it mate :)
incredible video as always Peter. only thing is most people here just pronounce USAC as you-sack. way more fun to say lol
Can you do a ranking for every f1 world champion? Or even better, ranking every f1 race winner? ❤️
I imagine I'll attempt the impossible at some point in the future!
Yay!
Great work
I would rank them very different eapecially the 50s drivers, they are basicly racing against themselves, but great video indeed
'Nico Rosberg is a Monaco-based UA-camr who once beat Lewis Hamilton in equal machinery'
Brilliant video as always
If only Villeneuve had been more patient, so much wasted potential; but at least he got world champion.
Couldnt have been at Ferrari unless he and Micheal could have fought for real.
Wish he had signed with McLaren instead of launching B.A.R.
Pretty damn good again!!
Great video, many thanks. 2:15 on Andretti: "Hoosier" race name means someone from Indiana, pronounced "Hoo-zher," 2 syllables blended together. Ain't no Hoo-shee-ay in 'Murica 🙃
Kinda knew that Farina would be number 1 lol also I woulda switched Button and Verstappen, leaving the drivers between as they are, as well as drop Rosberg down one or two spots
I think Farina, Fangio and Ascari shouldn't belong to this list, because... it wasn't their actual debut. They raced on top for many years (especially Farina) on pre-war cars, so their "debut" is just a continuation of their careers
Seeing how dangerous F1 used to be, i'm amazed that no-one on the list got killed on their debut!
You could have added Felipe massa and Eddie Irvine since they were almost world champion themselves
Could you also make a Video about the last race of all of the retired Champions?
Yep that one's planned too!
Hold up. Are we not going to mention Vettel's debut F1 race, where he broke the record for fasted career penalty by flying through the pit lane at over 80mph in just a few seconds? what about the rest of that race? much disappoint.
Lost my shit at Nico Rosberg being a Monaco-based UA-camr.
Kevin Magnussen p2 in 2014 is arguably the greatest F1 debut ever
Giancarlo Baghetti would like a word
Something that stands out here is LH started in a reliable front running car and got out qualified by his teammate. Most of the older champions started in the slowest car on the grid, destroyed there teammates and either broke down or beat a lot of much faster cars......
I mean, Hamilton’s teammate was Alonso, the reigning world champion. Being a bit slower than him on debut isn’t a mark against him
Least delusional modern F1 fan: “getting outqualified by the reigning world champion on your debut is a red flag”
The pile up when the wave it tabac....???? That i need to know more about, like could you imagen if there was film or that pile up.
I apologize for what I was thinking. You stated F1 world champions. Your list is very good. I thought ( where I always fail) You left out Giancarlo Baghetti. He was not a Formula One champion. But he was the only other driver to win a Formula one race on his debut after Dr. Giuseppe Antonio "Nino" Farina. I beg your forgiveness. Arigato gozaimasu Sensei Peter Brook.😅
Why is Kimi placed so low?
"Kimi was sleeping underneath a table covered by a blanket. He's told: 'Come on, get up! We have seven minutes until pit lane opens!' And he said: 'Give me another three, four minutes to sleep!"
Iceman couldn’t be bothered even on his debut
Rule of thumb, say USAC like NASCAR. The abbreviation is just a word. To help you out in future, Hoosier is pronounced “whose-ure.”
I thought Andretti would be in the top 5, but I forgot about that disqualification. Nice to see Jacques in second, of course Farina is first, maybe not fair, but somebody had to win that first ever World Championship race.
I like the order ..... impressive line up.
fittipaldi didnt race hidroplanes... he had his own team here.. racing tuned beetles with porsche engines and stuff like that
I have no comment after that equal machinery reference.
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Just for future vid purpose's....no one in the US calls/called USAC the "You Ess Aye See" its always been pronounced "YouSack"
But i think im gonna start sayin "hoosier" as "whozeeaye"!!! Cuz thats awesome!
you are wrong on damon hill.. he put up with so much pressure..and that schumacher was at his most agressive.. he won when it mattered..
hamilton is placed one spot higher then rosberg because it wasnt in equal machinery
Surpised vettel wasn't last cause of the 8 second penalty.
Probably because that wasn't in his debut weekend
@@joelapilainen wasn't it?...are you going to count fp1 for other teams first.
That was in a practice session from 2006 at the Turkish GP when teams used to be able to run a 3rd driver for FP on Friday
@@insertgenericusernamehere2402 yeah it happened the year before his first race weekend
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 gotcha thanks
2:26 Hoosyay? xD
lmaoooo monaco youtuber
Anyone else find the background music a bit eerie
Max Verstappen: beaten by team mate in qualifying and then retired.
Schumacher is the biggest Legend of all...
Soo uhh, is by that logic Farina the only driver to ever win the WDC in his rookie season?!
USAC is pronounced like you sack btw. Its an acronym not an initialism
how the hell does Schumacher make it to 9th with a good quali and killing his clutch before turn 4 on lap 1? almost like not only the debut race is taken into account
Not sure what your criteria for the ranking is. But seems to exclude car performance team mate performance f1 practice before hand etc etc. Villeneuve ranking so high is shocking as he was training hard in an f1 car which was the best on the grid so rookie by first race yes but seat time was higher then any other rookie. Hamilton in the best car again by a mile .... yet senna who im not a fan of takes a poor car and does amazing things in it is so far back. This is obviously personal preference and has no bearing on actual performance based on the driver.
4 drivers won their debut race? Who were them? (apart from Guiseppe Farina)
I think there’s only been 3? One of them is Farina and then there’s the winner of the 1950 Indy500, Johnnie Parsons. Obviously these two are exceptional cases since Farina won the first ever F1 race and 1950 was the first year the 500 was an f1 event (Parsons had raced in the 500 the year before).
So I guess the only “true” driver who won on debut was Giancarlo Baghetti, who won on debut in a privately-entered Ferrari at the 1961 French GP. It was his only podium in 21 starts.
There were only three, Villeneuve came very close to being the fourth
Oh, I misheard you then. You said he could have been the 4th to do so. Sorry for that
Can someone pls find where Rosberg says that he beat Hamilton in equal machinery?😂..or is that just a made up meme?
6:30
If 19 drivers did a podium in their debut, how the hell is Hamilton on 4th place then with a championship winning car?
Many of the drivers that did a podium on their debut are not world champions
I think Magnussen got a podium on his debut but I may be wrong, and look at Magnussens resounding success in his F1 career
@@perry5062 Misread that, sry. Still not very sure about it but yeah
Hamilton's rookie season is overrated, Jacques Villeneuve almost won on his first season and won on his second season because he got the best car on debut just like him, but nobody talks about Villeneuve because he got lucky with the car and was just an average driver.
Hamilton was good but based on his later McLaren years where he was finishing P5 on the standings every year there wasn't anything special going on, until mercedes built him a missile. Same thing with Rosberg, he was an average driver and nobody thought anything of him, but all of a sudden he became the 2nd best driver in one year magically and it was a coincidence when he drove for Mercedes
@@perry5062 also some of them might be Indy 500 drivers from the 50's, back when the Indy 500 counted towards the F1 championship
A general sprinkling of luck indeed.
Unless you're Lewis the fraud Hamilton in which case you take ALL THE LUCK and then some.
This post is cringeworthy from (I assume) an adult.
@@Muesliman467 managed to hurt your ickle feelings though? Bless.
@@jonnywalker3208 You seem unhinged
@@jonnywalker3208what a little specimen you are mate. Look at you go
I must be a year behind for it to be 72 and bit years of F1