Yeah, but he was disrespectful and antagonistic to Ali...always referring to him as Clay in public. It's no wonder Ali eventually gave it back by labeling Joe as The Gorilla.
Joe coming on right after losing and keeping a winning attitude....what a great guy. Joe was really full of love even though he had to fight his way out of the Jim Crow south. He gave and gave all the way to the end of his life. Something to aspire for!
Joe Frazier never ever feared any boxer. He always took whoever was willing to go toe to toe with him. Not like today. He fought all the best who were there. RIP Champ!
You said it their Joe helped him out when he was banned from boxing and as soon as the was lifted and clay could box again he turned on Joe and just treated him badly.
@@shaundouglas2057 from what I've been told Joe helped Ali it's well well known that he helped him out financially during his Ban, when he returned to Boxing and they were to fight each other Ali treated the promotion like he did before with every other Fight let his Mouth go & started criticizing Joe also name calling but to Ali that was part of the Game then realising what this had done to JF Ali spent the best part of 40yrs apologising to Joe he accepted the apology but would usually bring it up when drunk and actually tried attacking a Parkinsons inflicted Ali at some Awards ceremony now my friend told me this he's big Boxing Man, his Source IDK but I've no doubt to disbelieve him, if anyone can give me an account of their relationship it would much appreciated?✌️👊
Let's not forget that this wasn't a totally selfless act. Frazier couldn't be fully accepted by the public as the HWC without defeating Ali. He also knew that he wasn't going to get anywhere near the record $2.5 Million (in '71) fighting anyone else. Without Ali getting back his license, Frazier'd have to fight 5 other guys to earn that.
Robert Matthews Think of all the celebrities and public figures out there. How many would you want to associate with? Extremely few. In fact, you'd be hard-pressed to think of a single famous person you'd let into your home and sit on your furniture and drink your beer. But George Foreman and Joe Frasier are two guys you'd love to have for friends. I would have given my right arm to have spent an evening with Joe Frasier. What a mensch!
I once met Smokin Joe in the mid 70s when I was a teenager up in Seattle, he truly is a unique guy and I feel bad on how his life eneded, he was basically broke, living upstairs of a boxing gym. I hope his family is fine these days
@cptamazing12 really is that how you feel about Joe Frazier in his hometown they have a statue of Rocky Balboa a fictional character they should have had a statue of Joe Frazier
@cptamazing12 well,his gym That he built out of his own money got shut down,in his last days he was living in a tiny flat above his closed down Gym.and it was only after he died that philly decided to give him a statue.and it isnt the first time Philly has shunned their world champion,After winning the world title sonny liston came back to his home town of philly and expected the heroes welcome a champion deserves.when he got off the plane,nobody was there.Philly has a reputation of neglecting their hometown heroes but praising a fictional character in Rocky.
No matter what your occupation or profession,Joe Fraziers demeanor and outlook on life will probably work for you in being successful....rest in peace Champ ❤
I like the question "are you embarrassed?" we all too often seem to love stepping on people who have achieved greatness when they're down. 99 percent of the people on the planet at that time would have had no business stepping in a ring with George Foreman, and here's a guy who's defeated Muhammad Ali, he loses to another great fighter and he should feel embarrassed to leave the house? That question just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Completely agree. That question pissed me off, even more because Joe is such a nice classy guy. If he had been arrogant or whining, it would have maybe been a fair question. But Foreman was like early Tyson, most people, good fighters, went down hard and early. And Joe at least got up again. Knocked down but not out.
I agree! No self-respecting person would dare ask such a nonsensical and stupid question to one of the 3 greatest champions of boxing's golden era and of all time.
It may have had it's origins in Floyd Patterson. Apparently he wore a disguise when he left the stadium after the first loss to Liston, embarrassed to be seen and identified.
Joe Frazier was a big influence in getting Ali back in boxing after Ali was suspended I was born in 59 young when it all happened looking back on it I think Ali is a nut what happened to him growing up
That's what I say. Daddy did three tours in Nam, wicked Conservative. He sho did love Joe. He was actually IN LOVE with Joe. Win, lose or draw Joe was a damn American!!!
smokin joe so Charming in his own way " You know what I mean ." I saw him in a song and dance revue in the 80s RIP Philly Joe! We all know that Joe he punch good
I wish he hadn't done it because it lowered Joe and Joe was a class act. I understand why he did it though. Ali shouldn't have ever ever ever belittled a good guy like Joe Fraizer.
John Barry It didn't lower him lol. Quit menstruating and face reality. Ali deserved to be insulted as much as he deserves to be sitting in his diaper shitting himself with parkinsons.
The GREAT Joe Frazier. As great as he was as a champion, he was even greater as a man. A 1st class man. When the only men to beat you are Ali and Foreman, you know you're one Helluva tough guy!!!!
History shows that he ducked fighting Shavers, Ron Lyle and Ken Norton. Three brutal hitters who might have wrecked him for good. Fact that Ali fought them all plus Foreman and won is testimony to Ali's far superior skills. The destructive hammering Frazier took from Foreman throws light on reality. He is a notch below the great boxers and avoided big punchers.
@@junegemI don't think he ducked them. He would've fought anybody and everybody. He wanted to fight liston and his management didn't let him. He didn't need to fight shavers because he fought someone even tougher and couldn't beat him, he didn't have anything to prove on punching power boxers. After the foreman fight he was only interested with a fight for the title, Ali or a rematch.
That's what I was thinking. That old man either never took a punch in his life, or seriously underestimated how devastating Frazier could hit. Frazier might kill a young healthy man with one punch, let alone some old geezer. At least Cosby had the sense to understand that.
one thing about smokin Joe nobody talks about is the fact he was blind in his right eye from a thumb at the 64 Olympics and fought everyone including Ali half blind!
Pretty stupid if you ask me I wonder if his trainer and manager we're in on it and let him go into the ring incapacitated like that no wonder he took so much punishment from Ali not just in the first and second fight but especially in Manila..
@@vena180 I can't take seriously anyone's opinion who reveals himself so incredibly ignorant to still call Muhammad Ali by his slave name. You have absolutely zero credibility. Beyond your ignorant personality all one has to do is have eyes. Watch the fight especially rounds 12 13 and 14 where Joe Frazier took such a frightening pounding people were afraid he might get killed if he were allowed to come out for the 15th amround--including his trainer Eddie futch who stopped the fight on a technical knockout to save Frazier from even more punishment--even possible death. The sports illustrated cover story showed the proof that Muhammad Ali was exhausted from his super human effort in the heat+humidity of Manila but Joe Frazier's face was barely recognizable! Muhammad Ali put so much damage on him Joe looked like a gargoyle and when people would come into his room he had to ask who they were because he couldn't see!!!
@@dylanchangedeverythingfore1312 Frazier came into the fight half blind in manilla Frazier took punishment from Ali but Ali took 4 times more as punishment look at Ali parkinson
Joe Frazier is by far my fav fighter Humble in victory or defeat Didn't possess physical supreme like ali however possess mountains of physical endeavour heart and determination which made him catch up to Ali He was an epic warrior who fought his career with a partially blind left eye and a crooked left arm
Smokin' Joe. a class act. humble yet proud. determined, but realistic. a fierce competitor, but willing to sing Foremans praises. Frazier was one of the greats. and he was absolutely right when he said that Ali is reaping what he sowed. you don't bad mouth people your entire career and not have it come bite you back on the arse. love you Joe!! keep punching
@@choff56 ...Smokin' Joe did not lend The Greatest a lot of money. Stop reading that wikipedia! They're not one-hundred percent correct, and that's most of the time!
I completely agree. One of the all time greats. His first fight with Ali is my favorite. I just wish he would have unloaded one great left hook on Foreman, even though Foreman won, as Frazier said, fair and square. Such a great man inside and outsode the ring.
Keep in mind that he was also practically blind in one eye. I think those fights would have turned out differently had he been able to see out of both eyes.
Agree mate !!....loved smokin Joe and in the 1st fight when both were undefeated...smokin Joe won clearly !!!.....l always believed you have to be modest and no one likes a big head but the publics love affair with Ali kind of contradicts this !!
Fraizer showed he was as good as Ali. He just did not insult Ali between the fights. I think he was a simple man who worked hard. -If I think about it Ali insulted Sony Liston as well- A lot before there fight. It was his strategy maybe- But how he talked about Joe was to much in my opinion. "Gorila" ,He cant fight" and this went on for years.
I had an opportunity to meet Joe Frazier in Tulsa, Oklahoma when he sang and had a band. I got to sit in his dressing room with him and have a drink for about an hour after his show. I read alot of the comments and I can assure he was one of the classiest athletes I had ever met. As a American, not only because he was an Olympic gold medal winner and a heavyweight champion, we should honor his journey from humble beginnings. I never saw anything from him, even after all his victories, of not being the classiest heavyweight of all times. RIP Joe and thanks for that special time spent together.
"I lost fair and square." Ali was never even close to being that honest about his own losses. Rest in eternal peace Smokin Joe, one Philly boy to another ❤🙏🥊
@theloosegoose333 Thanks for repeating what I said. They hated each other because Muhammad called him an 'uncle tom' and Frazier replied by calling him 'Clay', but Muhammad called him an 'uncle tom' first!
I know this comment was written 10yrs age but since it is wrong I have to reply and correct it Frazier was asked a question about Muhammed Ali and then Frazier started by saying “Clay” and then Muhammed got angry and called him Uncle Tom Frazier called him “Clay” first and then Muhammed Ali called him “Uncle Tom” after he called him “clay”
@@rizzythepro411 Ok then explain why Ali called Foreman a gorilla? I don't remember Foreman calling Ali as Clay. Kinda blows a whole in your theory doesn't it? I won't list all the other boxers Ali racially abused because I'm sure you will have an excuse for that too, when none of called Ali Clay...
@@Me-qp8vz Actually, Ali called Foreman The Mummy. There was a deep seated resentment bet Ali and Frazier. But, read Ali's first biography where the two hour drive between Philly and NYC is detailed. It is a hell of conversation with only the two of them in the car.
There are 2 types of people that called Ali by his chosen name; a type who wisely chose to call him Ali and a type who was forced to call him Ali after he made them pay hell.
I love big George but kudos to Joe Frazier too. A great boxer and an even better human being. Honest with tons of heart. No BS in the man and that was truly refreshing.
Never ceases to amaze me,how articulate and humble and well spoken these legends are. Joe,Archie Moore,George Chuvalo,Sugar Ray Robinson,Big George Foreman,Hagler,to name but a few. Love em all. Champs in the ring,Champs at life.
One of the greats in boxing history! He was one tough fighter who never backed down from anybody. He was also a good human being who had a great heart. Mr. Frazier is truly missed!
I know talking bad about Clay/Ali gets many people in a rage, but I'll never forgive what that guy did to Joe Frazier. It wasn't about "head games" or "hype." It was an endless barrage of horrible, devastating insults. Frazier exhibited class time and again throughout his life, and he didn't deserve one bit of that crap spewed by Clay/Ali. I encourage every fight fan to go read about it - read how many times he insulted Frazier and the actual terms he used, and the hateful, condescending tone. I celebrated every loss Clay/Ali had after that.
Bruh I'm a huge Ali fan but even I'll admit what he did to Frazier was unforgivable. Frazier didn't deserve it and I'm glad Frazier kicked his ass in Manila.
It is so hard to imagine today but look at Bill Cosby over there smoking on the set. People used to work and were able to smoke at their desk...crazy how times change.
1980Triumph I know, it's weird seeing that.. even in the 1990s people were still allowed to smoke everywhere. But in the late 1980s, there was a show called the ''Morton Downey Jr show'' if you're old enough to remember it.. the host constantly had a cigarette in his mouth, and eventually died from lung cancer.
@DustinF1000 you obviously don't know what an uncle tom is! None of them were an uncle tom, people just assume that Frazier was one because Ali said so, which is ridiculous.
Ali'd throw any such ridiculous thing out - not because Ali believed any of it - but because Ali believed in SELLING fights. Now he's the template for the Nick Diaz's, the Conor McGregor's - the Nate Diaz's et al. "Raise Hell during the pre-fight buildup/ publicity." It's why we wanted to see Cowboy fight Conor - i.e. their hysterical press conference together. "I'll bend your ass over - KNOCK the Lucky Charms out of y'all." (Cowboy to Conor a couple years back). Still makes me laugh.
@theloosegoose333 Muhammad started it when he called Joe an uncle tom before their first fight, at the time they were friends, but Muhammad ruined that friendship to make a few more bucks. When Joe called him Clay, it was a response to 'uncle tom' and a way of promoting the fight even further. They promoted the fight into being the fight of the century, and lost a friendship in the process, but Muhammad threw the first stone!
Ali also called himself pretty while referring to Joe as a gorilla. When their careers were done, Ali gave a sincere apology both in private and publicly. They also became friends. Joe cried when Ali passed away.
Joe Frazier one of the all time great fighters in the game. Heart like no other! Will that defines the sport!! Ali is not fit to tie this mans boots.! God bless George Frazier. One of he greatest boxers of all time!!!!!!!!!!!! Nuff said!!
I like Frazier, humble guy, never wanted no problems, he only called Ali Clay because 1 that is his name and 2 he knew that was one of the few things that really pissed off Ali. Not because he was the white man's champion, he's darker than Ali, u make shit about race and then in comes the hate...
ColdHeartedMan1979 Ali was at his funeral and cried his eyes out. After their first fight where Frazier won Frazier was in the hospital for 2 weeks and Ali said if he dies he'll never fight again.
Iron Toledo Thanks for all the info. Wow. I never knew all that. I was never an Ali fan much, but knowing that now and from other videos I watched on here, he's starting to win me over. :-)
No better fights than Ali vs Frazier trilogy in my opinion. Ali would talk a lot of crap but as he would say he could back up every word of it. He was without a doubt the greatest boxer of all time. He hyped fights like no other but most the crap he talked was to sell the fight. Even today u can't mention boxing without mentioning Ali.
No, Clay was no longer his last name. He legally changed his name to Muhammad Ali. You're correct about why Smokin Joe continued to call Ali, Clay. He knew it irritated Ali. And Joe lived the more traditional black man's life. He grew up in the deep south, a share croppers son while Ali grew up in a middle class neighborhood in Louisville, Ky. Ali and his lackies were way out of line calling Joe, 'a Tom'. Rest in Peace Smokin Joe.
Reading about this former heavyweight champion and one of the best boxers of all time, I felt this connection, its as if I had met him. His humility was one of a kind, he managed to stay humble despite all the fame, and he was a well polished professional boxer, always kept his cool despite physical provocations from Cassius Clay Jnr during the build up to fights. I love this guy!
What a lovely guy Joe Frazier was. Tough as nails, gentle, polite, humble, dignified. A great example to us all.
He was a true class act. He treated everyone the way he wanted to be treated. Thats an example I wish more people followed today.
Great man
Yeah, but he was disrespectful and antagonistic to Ali...always referring to him as Clay in public. It's no wonder Ali eventually gave it back by labeling Joe as The Gorilla.
Joe coming on right after losing and keeping a winning attitude....what a great guy. Joe was really full of love even though he had to fight his way out of the Jim Crow south. He gave and gave all the way to the end of his life. Something to aspire for!
Frazier only defeated by two all time greats....Ali and Foreman. A true champion.
Did he not get beaten by kenny? Maybe im wrong
Indeed he was!
@@thatlonelygiraffeinc.6989 you wrong. Kenny Norton only sparred with Joe.
@@stanmoney8470 Ah I see, thank you for correcting me
Joe and Kenny were sparring partners and best friends, which is why they never fought
R.I.P Smokin' Joe Frazier
Joe Frazier never ever feared any boxer. He always took whoever was willing to go toe to toe with him. Not like today. He fought all the best who were there. RIP Champ!
cocotimbo Very well said brother!
Joe Frazier saved Ali's career and people will never give Frazier the credit he earner for being on of the BEST.
racinford1 he is credited as one of the best, get outta here with that. He’s loved and respected. We all know he was one of the best. Ever
You said it their Joe helped him out when he was banned from boxing and as soon as the was lifted and clay could box again he turned on Joe and just treated him badly.
@@shaundouglas2057 from what I've been told Joe helped Ali it's well well known that he helped him out financially during his Ban, when he returned to Boxing and they were to fight each other Ali treated the promotion like he did before with every other Fight let his Mouth go & started criticizing Joe also name calling but to Ali that was part of the Game then realising what this had done to JF Ali spent the best part of 40yrs apologising to Joe he accepted the apology but would usually bring it up when drunk and actually tried attacking a Parkinsons inflicted Ali at some Awards ceremony now my friend told me this he's big Boxing Man, his Source IDK but I've no doubt to disbelieve him, if anyone can give me an account of their relationship it would much appreciated?✌️👊
I agree that that used to be the case, but over time I believe Joe has now earned the respect for his actions - and generosity - in assisting Ali.
Let's not forget that this wasn't a totally selfless act. Frazier couldn't be fully accepted by the public as the HWC without defeating Ali. He also knew that he wasn't going to get anywhere near the record $2.5 Million (in '71) fighting anyone else. Without Ali getting back his license, Frazier'd have to fight 5 other guys to earn that.
forgot how much a marvellous human being this great champ was.
Total class all the way. George Foreman and Joe Frazier. Real gentlemen.
Right on Leon... Total class act. Such a pleasant fella as well...
Robert Matthews Think of all the celebrities and public figures out there. How many would you want to associate with? Extremely few. In fact, you'd be hard-pressed to think of a single famous person you'd let into your home and sit on your furniture and drink your beer. But George Foreman and Joe Frasier are two guys you'd love to have for friends. I would have given my right arm to have spent an evening with Joe Frasier. What a mensch!
Just what I was thinking.
I like the silent killers. George Foreman is the forefront.
i agree
I once met Smokin Joe in the mid 70s when I was a teenager up in Seattle, he truly is a unique guy and I feel bad on how his life eneded, he was basically broke, living upstairs of a boxing gym. I hope his family is fine these days
And they closed it. Not the best end
@cptamazing12 not the ending he deserved though.
@cptamazing12 really is that how you feel about Joe Frazier in his hometown they have a statue of Rocky Balboa a fictional character they should have had a statue of Joe Frazier
@cptamazing12 well,his gym That he built out of his own money got shut down,in his last days he was living in a tiny flat above his closed down Gym.and it was only after he died that philly decided to give him a statue.and it isnt the first time Philly has shunned their world champion,After winning the world title sonny liston came back to his home town of philly and expected the heroes welcome a champion deserves.when he got off the plane,nobody was there.Philly has a reputation of neglecting their hometown heroes but praising a fictional character in Rocky.
@@joshuatree5620 his home town is actually in SC, just outside of Charleston in Beaufort.
Met him in Scranton, PA at a local fight night. He was exactly like this. What a genuine guy. True champion.
I met him too. The second i did i passed out
No matter what your occupation or profession,Joe Fraziers demeanor and outlook on life will probably work for you in being successful....rest in peace Champ ❤
Joe Frazier, class, class, class!
I'm 18. Joe Frazier is my favourite fighter. I love watching his fights. Sleep tight champ.
I like the question "are you embarrassed?" we all too often seem to love stepping on people who have achieved greatness when they're down. 99 percent of the people on the planet at that time would have had no business stepping in a ring with George Foreman, and here's a guy who's defeated Muhammad Ali, he loses to another great fighter and he should feel embarrassed to leave the house? That question just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Completely agree. That question pissed me off, even more because Joe is such a nice classy guy. If he had been arrogant or whining, it would have maybe been a fair question. But Foreman was like early Tyson, most people, good fighters, went down hard and early. And Joe at least got up again. Knocked down but not out.
@John Ratican the interviewer suited his name "Dick" very well.
I agree! No self-respecting person would dare ask such a nonsensical and stupid question to one of the 3 greatest champions of boxing's golden era and of all time.
It may have had it's origins in Floyd Patterson. Apparently he wore a disguise when he left the stadium after the first loss to Liston, embarrassed to be seen and identified.
Lovely human being. I love Joe. He doesn’t get enough credit. This man helped Ali when Ali was broke
Joe Frazier was a big influence in getting Ali back in boxing after Ali was suspended I was born in 59 young when it all happened looking back on it I think Ali is a nut what happened to him growing up
How can you not love Joe?? Just pure class and a great human.
Joe Frazier was a good man.
That's what I say. Daddy did three tours in Nam, wicked Conservative. He sho did love Joe. He was actually IN LOVE with Joe. Win, lose or draw Joe was a damn American!!!
You can't know that just because an interview
One of the greatest heavyweights of all time
A ring 'immortal'. And there aren't too many in that category.
Love Joe Frazier. Fearless man. He kept on going, kept on getting up. True Hero
hes a legend - an amazing exciting style he had unlike any other heavyweight of his era
We miss you Joe
Joe was exceptional he would be punching in the 15 th rd n pushing his opponent back just as the first rd that’s why they called him smoking joe
smokin joe so Charming in his own way " You know what I mean ." I saw him in a song and dance revue in the 80s RIP Philly Joe! We all know that Joe he punch good
Joe has a very man's Man aura about him.ive never experienced it before,even Ali never had that.Class is the only word for it.
Frazier had every right to call him "Clay" after all the insults he received from ali.
I wish he hadn't done it because it lowered Joe and Joe was a class act. I understand why he did it though. Ali shouldn't have ever ever ever belittled a good guy like Joe Fraizer.
agreed, Joe was a gentleman and a classy champion
John Barry
It didn't lower him lol. Quit menstruating and face reality. Ali deserved to be insulted as much as he deserves to be sitting in his diaper shitting himself with parkinsons.
justin welsh you have a point, but if Ali kept his mouth shut they wouldnt have called it ''golden era of heavyweights''
justin welsh be quiet stupid, your embarrassing yourself
what a brilliant guy. R.I.P. CHAMP. we miss you.
The GREAT Joe Frazier. As great as he was as a champion, he was even greater as a man. A 1st class man. When the only men to beat you are Ali and Foreman, you know you're one Helluva tough guy!!!!
What a classy champion, great guy, great personality
One of the toughest men who ever lived. As he said: he never "ducked" anybody; fearless man; great tribute to the sport.
History shows that he ducked fighting Shavers, Ron Lyle and Ken Norton. Three brutal hitters who might have wrecked him for good. Fact that Ali fought them all plus Foreman and won is testimony to Ali's far superior skills. The destructive hammering Frazier took from Foreman throws light on reality. He is a notch below the great boxers and avoided big punchers.
@@junegemI don't think he ducked them. He would've fought anybody and everybody. He wanted to fight liston and his management didn't let him. He didn't need to fight shavers because he fought someone even tougher and couldn't beat him, he didn't have anything to prove on punching power boxers. After the foreman fight he was only interested with a fight for the title, Ali or a rematch.
Joe Frazier was a CLASS act.
dude, if Frazier had hit you, the only show you'd get would be in heaven.
true!! you ain't doing no comedy show later that night LOL
I don't think Cosby will be going to heaven.
blite13 hahahah i think so to...
That's what I was thinking. That old man either never took a punch in his life, or seriously underestimated how devastating Frazier could hit. Frazier might kill a young healthy man with one punch, let alone some old geezer. At least Cosby had the sense to understand that.
zjekosljav mrkva is it just me, or how badass would it have been if Joe Frazier had a flashback and started beating the shit out of bill Cosby?
RIP Joe Frazier
i respect this man
I really like what I see of Frazier as a person - great fighter, great man
No way young Bill Cosby.. hahaha
Joe is a legend!! True hero and deserved more glory than he got🥇
Young, but he still had more knockouts in his career than Frazier had at this point.
I love the style from back in the 70's and wished I was young back then. Frazier knew how to dress.
A CLASS ACT all the way ! * I am now 55 and remember ALL of that AWESOME ERA !! ~* RIP Joe !
one thing about smokin Joe nobody talks about is the fact he was blind in his right eye from a thumb at the 64 Olympics and fought everyone including Ali half blind!
Left eye.
Pretty stupid if you ask me I wonder if his trainer and manager we're in on it and let him go into the ring incapacitated like that no wonder he took so much punishment from Ali not just in the first and second fight but especially in Manila..
@@dylanchangedeverythingfore1312Clay took the punishment
@@vena180 I can't take seriously anyone's opinion who reveals himself so incredibly ignorant to still call Muhammad Ali by his slave name. You have absolutely zero credibility. Beyond your ignorant personality all one has to do is have eyes.
Watch the fight especially rounds 12 13 and 14 where Joe Frazier took such a frightening pounding people were afraid he might get killed if he were allowed to come out for the 15th amround--including his trainer Eddie futch who stopped the fight on a technical knockout to save Frazier from even more punishment--even possible death.
The sports illustrated cover story showed the proof that Muhammad Ali was exhausted from his super human effort in the heat+humidity of Manila but Joe Frazier's face was barely recognizable! Muhammad Ali put so much damage on him Joe looked like a gargoyle and when people would come into his room he had to ask who they were because he couldn't see!!!
@@dylanchangedeverythingfore1312 Frazier came into the fight half blind in manilla
Frazier took punishment from Ali but Ali took 4 times more as punishment look at Ali parkinson
Frazier is all class, no excuses, takes nothing away from foreman and makes good points all around.
Im just so sad i could never meet him in person.
Smokin Joe Frazier , a man among men. A tough guy among tough guys Class all the way
RIP Joe Zrazier. Truly one of the greats.
Thanks for the memories.
Incredible man formidable spirit and integrity
thank you very very much for uploading this really enjoyed watching this.
Joe Frazier is by far my fav fighter
Humble in victory or defeat
Didn't possess physical supreme like ali however possess mountains of physical endeavour heart and determination which made him catch up to Ali
He was an epic warrior who fought his career with a partially blind left eye and a crooked left arm
Joe was one of my favorites. An honest champion real America. RiP Joe
Smokin' Joe. a class act. humble yet proud. determined, but realistic. a fierce competitor, but willing to sing Foremans praises.
Frazier was one of the greats. and he was absolutely right when he said that Ali is reaping what he sowed. you don't bad mouth people your entire career and not have it come bite you back on the arse.
love you Joe!! keep punching
Joe had well earned the right to call Ali whatever he wanted to and vice versa.
ali insulted everyone , a big difference , and Frazier lent Ali a lot of money when Ali was banned from boxing , some gratitude by Ali .
@@choff56 ...Smokin' Joe did not lend The Greatest a lot of money. Stop reading that wikipedia! They're not one-hundred percent correct, and that's most of the time!
@@brucescott4261 yes he did,might wanna check your own facts first Jack.then when Ali made his comeback he did nothing but badmouth Frazier,Classless.
What a great guy with great class
Priceless stuff. Thanks for the upload.
Joe Frazier-One of the best fighters. He was as good as Ali in my opinion but unlike him-Did not humiliate other fighter with his mouth .
I completely agree. One of the all time greats. His first fight with Ali is my favorite. I just wish he would have unloaded one great left hook on Foreman, even though Foreman won, as Frazier said, fair and square. Such a great man inside and outsode the ring.
Keep in mind that he was also practically blind in one eye. I think those fights would have turned out differently had he been able to see out of both eyes.
Agree mate !!....loved smokin Joe and in the 1st fight when both were undefeated...smokin Joe won clearly !!!.....l always believed you have to be modest and no one likes a big head but the publics love affair with Ali kind of contradicts this !!
Fraizer showed he was as good as Ali. He just did not insult Ali between the fights. I think he was a simple man who worked hard. -If I think about it Ali insulted Sony Liston as well- A lot before there fight. It was his strategy maybe- But how he talked about Joe was to much in my opinion. "Gorila" ,He cant fight" and this went on for years.
well he did call Muhamad by his slave name... Which at the time is what the KKK was calling Ali... Does that not qualify as humiliating?
I always liked Joe. He was a genuine guy.
I had an opportunity to meet Joe Frazier in Tulsa, Oklahoma when he sang and had a band. I got to sit in his dressing room with him and have a drink for about an hour after his show. I read alot of the comments and I can assure he was one of the classiest athletes I had ever met. As a American, not only because he was an Olympic gold medal winner and a heavyweight champion, we should honor his journey from humble beginnings. I never saw anything from him, even after all his victories, of not being the classiest heavyweight of all times. RIP Joe and thanks for that special time spent together.
one of the all-time greats! nobody had more heart than smokin Joe.
"I lost fair and square."
Ali was never even close to being that honest about his own losses. Rest in eternal peace Smokin Joe, one Philly boy to another ❤🙏🥊
Joe's class is what part that sets him apart. Hardworking and Heart for miles and always humble.
@@Ffeoli1039 well said my brother
@theloosegoose333 Thanks for repeating what I said. They hated each other because Muhammad called him an 'uncle tom' and Frazier replied by calling him 'Clay', but Muhammad called him an 'uncle tom' first!
I know this comment was written 10yrs age but since it is wrong I have to reply and correct it Frazier was asked a question about Muhammed Ali and then Frazier started by saying “Clay” and then Muhammed got angry and called him Uncle Tom Frazier called him “Clay” first and then Muhammed Ali called him “Uncle Tom” after he called him “clay”
@@rizzythepro411 Ok then explain why Ali called Foreman a gorilla? I don't remember Foreman calling Ali as Clay. Kinda blows a whole in your theory doesn't it? I won't list all the other boxers Ali racially abused because I'm sure you will have an excuse for that too, when none of called Ali Clay...
@@rizzythepro411 It doesn't matter. In their later years they made peace, according to Marvis Frazier.
@@Me-qp8vz Actually, Ali called Foreman The Mummy. There was a deep seated resentment bet Ali and Frazier. But, read Ali's first biography where the two hour drive between Philly and NYC is detailed. It is a hell of conversation with only the two of them in the car.
When did Ali call Foreman a gorilla?
Very modest for Joe to be interviewed like this so short after such a brutal loss.
Met Joe at a local prize fight event well after his career. What a gentleman. He was open and receptive to everyone and was just one of the guys.
There are 2 types of people that called Ali by his chosen name; a type who wisely chose to call him Ali and a type who was forced to call him Ali after he made them pay hell.
Except Joe,Joe can call Ali clay.He earned it,being Ali's 1st loss.
At this point, Frazier and Ali had only fought once, and Frazier beat the stuffing out of Ali.
LOL - notice at the end Bill & Joe did a 4 way combo soul brotha handshake! That's what the fuck I'm sayin'!
king shaman ahahahhaH i noticed that to
I love big George but kudos to Joe Frazier too. A great boxer and an even better human being. Honest with tons of heart. No BS in the man and that was truly refreshing.
Best video of 2019 so far
Smokin Joe. Very classy.
2:57 Cosby and Frazier "my nigga my nigga"
Very rarely do you see pure class, Joe displays it here . . . .Beautifully.
Never ceases to amaze me,how articulate and humble and well spoken these legends are.
Joe,Archie Moore,George Chuvalo,Sugar Ray Robinson,Big George Foreman,Hagler,to name but a few.
Love em all. Champs in the ring,Champs at life.
Rip Joe !
Joe Frazier - What a fighter and what a man! Truly one of the greatest! R.I.P
Great, fantastic and immortal Joe Frazier!!! Respect forever!!!
One of the greats in boxing history! He was one tough fighter who never backed down from anybody. He was also a good human being who had a great heart. Mr. Frazier is truly missed!
hopefully they didn't let Bill fix the drinks
haha nice
Brilliant haha
@blackelk7373,you crazy brutha.
R.I.P Smoken Joe
What a wonderful bloke Joe frazier was. he was 100 % pure class and it hurts that he s not here any more RIP Joe we will love you for ever.
Mr. Joe Frazier, what a class act.
I know talking bad about Clay/Ali gets many people in a rage, but I'll never forgive what that guy did to Joe Frazier. It wasn't about "head games" or "hype." It was an endless barrage of horrible, devastating insults. Frazier exhibited class time and again throughout his life, and he didn't deserve one bit of that crap spewed by Clay/Ali. I encourage every fight fan to go read about it - read how many times he insulted Frazier and the actual terms he used, and the hateful, condescending tone. I celebrated every loss Clay/Ali had after that.
Bruh I'm a huge Ali fan but even I'll admit what he did to Frazier was unforgivable. Frazier didn't deserve it and I'm glad Frazier kicked his ass in Manila.
I totally agree, Jake. Ali's behaviour towards Frazier was utterly poisonous.
Jealous ass
Jake Mitchell I’m from Philadelphia and I LOVEEEE Ali
The clip isn't about Ali...
It is so hard to imagine today but look at Bill Cosby over there smoking on the set. People used to work and were able to smoke at their desk...crazy how times change.
1980Triumph I know, it's weird seeing that.. even in the 1990s people were still allowed to smoke everywhere. But in the late 1980s, there was a show called the ''Morton Downey Jr show'' if you're old enough to remember it.. the host constantly had a cigarette in his mouth, and eventually died from lung cancer.
Ana Costellano Oh I remember him vividly, he was always smoking, times changed super fast but I remember the culture back then.
R.I.P. Joe Frazier...a legend to this sport and sure one of the kindest boxers you'll ever see. God bless your soul
tenacity and ferocious ... like a steam locomotive ... a barrage of punches ... left hooks ... humble fighter ...
Look at that damn nose. That's a true boxer and champ right there. RIP Champ
+payton vaughn
true boxer
not smart boxer
@DustinF1000 you obviously don't know what an uncle tom is! None of them were an uncle tom, people just assume that Frazier was one because Ali said so, which is ridiculous.
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Ali'd throw any such ridiculous thing out - not because Ali
believed any of it - but because Ali believed in SELLING fights.
Now he's the template for the Nick Diaz's, the Conor McGregor's -
the Nate Diaz's et al. "Raise Hell during the pre-fight buildup/
publicity." It's why we wanted to see Cowboy fight Conor - i.e.
their hysterical press conference together. "I'll bend your ass
over - KNOCK the Lucky Charms out of y'all." (Cowboy to Conor
a couple years back). Still makes me laugh.
Rest in peace Joe you had tremendous heart and tremendous Talent there will never be another like you
They stopped the fight but they couldn’t stop Joe Frazier ❤️ Two great champions in Big George and Smokin Joe
I've been whooped a lot of times by mama you know 😂😂
@theloosegoose333 Muhammad started it when he called Joe an uncle tom before their first fight, at the time they were friends, but Muhammad ruined that friendship to make a few more bucks.
When Joe called him Clay, it was a response to 'uncle tom' and a way of promoting the fight even further. They promoted the fight into being the fight of the century, and lost a friendship in the process, but Muhammad threw the first stone!
Ali also called himself pretty while referring to Joe as a gorilla. When their careers were done, Ali gave a sincere apology both in private and publicly. They also became friends. Joe cried when Ali passed away.
@@rolindowndriver JF died in 2011. Ali in 2016.
@@kcash6359 Your right, JF cried about Ali's condition. in one of his last interviews.Thanks for that correction.
@@rolindowndriver You mean Ali cried when Frazier died. Ali attended Frazier’s funeral.
@@mikevanriel7573 Yeah your correct. I was corrected earlier, meant to say JF cried in an interview about Ali's condition.
We need more fighters like this RIP champ
A great champion, a classy guy in both victory and defeat. God bless Joe Frazier!
What a class act
Now I'm only thinking about what a Frazier left hook would do to Bill Cosby's face.
YES!
Bill got on my nerves here...
I love Jack Benny and Joe Frazier is such a class act!
True Champion❤
He fuckin' deserves that punch now that we know what he was doing during this time.
Beautiful smile!
R.I.P JOE.
Im just shattered over your passing. Your fights through the media of television and youtube and dvd will live forever.
at the and you can see the difference of white and black handshake
Funny. Your comment is the only reason I watched to the end.
Joe "the good guy" Frazier
He was a great amongst greats!
Love you brother Joe, we sure miss you. Thank you for all the great memories Champ. maurice
Joe Frazier one of the all time great fighters in the game. Heart like no other! Will that defines the sport!! Ali is not fit to tie this mans boots.! God bless George Frazier. One of he greatest boxers of all time!!!!!!!!!!!! Nuff said!!
After this show, Bill Cosby asked every woman he seen if she would rather get punched in the forehead or roofied... 37 women chose roofies.
Jeff ory Wtf are you talking about?.... dumbass.
Lmfaooo i was thinking the same thing
ah93704... Go upstairs from your basement and tell your mother to make you a sandwich... you virgin.
Ana Castellano lmao
@@americanIDOLfan11111 STFU biatch
What a classy guy! Win like a champion,lose like a champion!!!
Man this is gold.
Joe Frazier is pure boxing class. A great man and champion. (The guy smoking the cigar gives me the creeps! 🧟♂️ )
Lengendary Frazier here, glad I was here in the 1980s
Joe Frazier...Top shelf guy no matter what the venue...One of the greatest ever..RIP "Smokin Joe"...
Rest in peace, Smokin Joe.
Thanks for everything you gave us, man.
Smoking Joe from beginning to end, CLASS ACT!
I like Frazier, humble guy, never wanted no problems, he only called Ali Clay because 1 that is his name and 2 he knew that was one of the few things that really pissed off Ali. Not because he was the white man's champion, he's darker than Ali, u make shit about race and then in comes the hate...
Right on everything you said! Did they ever seriously put all that crap behind them and become friends?
ColdHeartedMan1979 Ali was at his funeral and cried his eyes out. After their first fight where Frazier won Frazier was in the hospital for 2 weeks and Ali said if he dies he'll never fight again.
Iron Toledo Thanks for all the info. Wow. I never knew all that. I was never an Ali fan much, but knowing that now and from other videos I watched on here, he's starting to win me over. :-)
No better fights than Ali vs Frazier trilogy in my opinion. Ali would talk a lot of crap but as he would say he could back up every word of it. He was without a doubt the greatest boxer of all time. He hyped fights like no other but most the crap he talked was to sell the fight. Even today u can't mention boxing without mentioning Ali.
No, Clay was no longer his last name. He legally changed his name to Muhammad Ali. You're correct about why Smokin Joe continued to call Ali, Clay. He knew it irritated Ali. And Joe lived the more traditional black man's life. He grew up in the deep south, a share croppers son while Ali grew up in a middle class neighborhood in Louisville, Ky. Ali and his lackies were way out of line calling Joe, 'a Tom'. Rest in Peace Smokin Joe.
Love that handshake between Bill and Joe at the end!
Reading about this former heavyweight champion and one of the best boxers of all time, I felt this connection, its as if I had met him. His humility was one of a kind, he managed to stay humble despite all the fame, and he was a well polished professional boxer, always kept his cool despite physical provocations from Cassius Clay Jnr during the build up to fights. I love this guy!