MAGNUS SINGLE BEVEL 150 gr Broadhead Test
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- This is a test of the 150 gr Magnus single bevel head.
Here is summary of my 2024 Testing Procedure & Scoring w/the scores of this head posted in parenthesis as well.
1. Flight Forgiveness (20%, 18 pts)
I'm using a Killer Instinct SWAT X1 crossbow, mounted to a BOG tripod, shooting a 670 gr Bishop Archery GOAT bolt (300 fps) at 30 yds. Field points consistently hit in the 10 ring & bullseye. I use the exact same bolt to shoot the broadhead. The only difference in the two shots is the broadhead's flight forgiveness vs that of the field point. A bullseye gets a score of 11/10, or a perfect score of 20 + 1 Bonus Point. The 10 ring gets a 10/10, or 20 points; a 9 ring gets a 9/10 or 18 points...& so forth, with each wider ring being 1/2" farther from the bullseye. Mechs are also given 1 Bonus Point for extra forgiveness.
2. Cut Size (20%, 8.87 pts)
The more tissue being cut, the more lethal the head, all else equal. The entrance cut, total cut, & width of the cut (a crucial variable for bloodletting) are all scored:
The entrance cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" then that fraction is weighted to 7% of the score. (1.03" = 2.89 points pts)
The max cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" as well, then that fraction is is weighted to 7% of the score. (1.03” = 2.89 pts)
The max cutting diameter is compared to a standard of 2.0", then that fraction is weighted to 6% of the score. (1.03" = 2.89 pts)
3. Blades (20%, 19.05 pts)
Initial sharpness (9%, 170 grams = 10/10 = 9 pts +.3 pts bonus = 9.33 pts) & Edge Retention (9%, +25 grams = 9.5/10 = 8.55 pts) are measured using the Edge On Up Sharpness Tester. The pressure needed for a blade to cut thru a copolymer wire is measured in grams.
Edge Retention is the loss of sharpness after the head is shot in Penetration Test 1, thru 1/2" MDF & 2/3" rubber foam mat & Clear Ballistics FBI gel. For every 50 "grams" of sharpness lost, 1 point is deducted from 10.
What are some sharpness scores for common edges?
A butter knife takes 2000 grams of pressure to break the co polymer wire.
A new high end cutlery edge: ~ 375 grams of pressure.
A utility razor blade: 200 grams.
Based on the many broadheads I have tested, here is my scoring scale:
Out of the Box Sharpness:
0-200 gr: 10
201-300 gr 9
301-400 gr: 8
401-500 gr: 7
501-600 gr: 6
601-700 gr: 5
Ease to resharpen or replace blades is judged & given 2% of the score. (6/10=1.2 pts)
4. Penetration (20%, 18.43 pts)
There are 2 penetration tests:
Pen Test 1: 1/2" MDF, 2/3" rubber foam mat, Clear Ballistics FBI gel. Depth of penetration is compared to a standard of 9" & weighted to 10% of the score. (8.5" = 9.44 pts + bonus L/W/2 = +.85 pts = 10.29 pts)
Pen Test 2: Layered cardboard. # of layers penetrated is compared to a standard of 70 layers & weighted to 10% of the score.
( 51 layers= 7.29 pts+bonus L/W/2 = +.85 pts= 8.14 pts)
5. Durability (20%, 19.25 pts)
Each head is shot thru 1/2" MDF 3 times. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 12% of the score. (10/10 = 12 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot thru 22 ga steel plate twice. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 5% of the score. (8.5/10 = 4.25 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot into concrete once. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 3% of the score. (10/10 = 3 pts).
Steel plate & concrete are certainly not "realistic" mediums, but they do reveal the outer limits of a head's durability.
BONUS:
+.5 pts thick blades .060"
+.05 pts Single bevel rotation: 5 degrees @ 11.5"
TOTAL SCORE: 84.15 pts = 8 Golden Arrows
Price: $18.33/head
Special Notes:
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Can’t beat a Magnus head in my opinion. American made, using American materials and American labor. Scary sharp straight out of the package, amazing customer service and of course their lifetime replacement guarantee is amazing! Plus even in today’s economy these heads are very affordable. Magnus for my money!
Thanks for sharing
While broadhead tuning with Magnus broadheads I actually hit the magnus head in the target with a fieldpoint. (Always shoot the broadhead first so as not to cut your fletching). Sent a picture to Magnus, Mike himself actually responded and sent me a replacement within a few weeks. Can't bear that.
i did the same with a black hornet at 25yds, mailed it back and they sent me a new one. great company
Yeah; he’s a good guy.
Lol I did the same thing. But has another head needing replaced. I even said I have this head too that's completely 100% my fault, and they replaced both heads anyway!
Looks like a twin to the Crimson Talon Cleaver, my favorite head. I didn't get the angle. It's a bit smaller diameter than the Cleaver. I'll say this right now. Whoever makes a 1.5 inch cut Cleaver type single bevel will take over the single bevel market,,,,and it's not hard. Crimson Talon Croc is 1.5 but without the Tanto tip,which WAS being worked on but now, not sure what's going to happen.
Magnus has always produced great heads at a fair price. Glad they entered the Cleaver market.
Thanks Mike.
Do a video breaking down the different types of steel, aluminum, Rockwell hardness etc.
I share all that information that is available to me in each video.
I try to explain that in each video, but perhaps I should do a separate video just explaining all of that.
This looks like a beast ! Hope your doing better , good to see you release a video
Thank you. I’m improving a bit day by day
..Hello Mr. Lusk 🙂👍🏻 I enjoy your videos very much. Thank you …. I have a thought : why doesn`t the broadhead producers focus more, on a smoother transition (sorry for my bad english) from the cutting pointy arrowhead to the ferule and shaft ? If you took the arrowhead you just tested, and filed/smoothed the start of the ferule down, so it would be “sharper” and start closer to the actual blade, wouldn`t it then penetrate deeper ?. Wouldn`t it be easier for the arrow to “work its way through more layers” in your cardboard test ? Best wishes from Denmark
That is the advantage of a one piece, machined 2 blade head. There is no transition between the ferrule and the blade itself. But those are much more expensive to make. And when it comes to penetrating in an animal, a very small lip at the end of the ferrule where it meets the blade is not a huge hindrance in penetration. it is not optimal, but it is also not very significant.
I imagine the buzzcut would perform just as good?
I’ve tested that as well and it did great.
#1 broadhead in your testing sequence in my opinion. First time I've seen a broadhead punch a hole through a cinder block and not bend or break. WOW!!
Thank you sir
@@LuskArcheryAdventures you're very welcome
Less width of cut is needed with a good single bevel broad head as the twisting through the target creates a nastier wound than the traditional double bevels that do not rotate. This head could another 0.020'' in thickness and a steeper angle grind to produce more rotation. Don't get me wrong it still did very well but I believe my additions would make it even better.
Magnus is a great company. They stick behind their products 100%. I called with a question and the owner answered the phone right away and was willing to answer any questions I had. Great guy to speak with.
Yes, some believe that. The actual additional cut generated by even an extreme rotation is quite negligible, mathematically. But I have found they often breach bone more effectively.
@@JohnLuskOutdoors In a single bevel broad head wound where there is a high degree of rotation, bones break more often than not. It also causes a longer wound path because the wound is twisted so it's longer. In this longer path more blood vessels, veins, tendons, etc have the opportunity to be cut so the wound channel is increased & there is a more lethal wound. I've seen this in deer I've shot with the double edged vs single bevel broad heads I've used. That being said I still use 3 blade, 4 blade and sing bevel broadheads. If I find a fixed blade single bevel 1 1/4'' or larger cut 4 blade that rotates 30 degrees or more and is accurate for my bows I'll probably stock up on that design and only use it for deer from then on.
Believe me, I understand the pluses and minuses of single bevel rotation.
That’s definitely a fine broadhead! I’ve been a long time fan of Magnus, I’m so glad they finally released that head…it’s going to be a game changer for wild pig hunting!
Thanks for sharing your test results with us!
Yep. Thanks
They need a 100 grain solid of this
Right on
@@bowdude33 I'm hoping for a 200-250 grain version.
How well do they fly from a fast crossbow?
Well, I shot it at 300 ft./s and it did very well. I imagine at 400 It will do well also.
Which 2 or 3 broadheads that you’ve tested had the most rotation for single bevels? Thanks and love your videos!
Hard to remember exactly, but the Trifecta 125 gr and Crimson Talon Croc come to mind.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures thank you, God bless!
Just need this in a 200 grain
Maybe they will in the future.
Does it come left beveled?
I believe they planned to add that. You may want to check on their site to see if they have yet.
Why so small cutting diameter??? Disappointed 😢
The beauty with broadheads is there are SO MANY variations in them, all providing different strengths and weaknesses. Smaller diameters penetrate more deeply, but don't cut as much tissue. Slighter bevel angles penetrate better but don't rotate as much. Thicker blades rotate better and are more durable but don't penetrate as much...etc. It's nice to have the options to best suit your needs.
Very good performer. Good well soon John.
Thanks brother
man, this is going to be the one for me! Usual Magnus quality and single bevel. Yep, this is the one.
Good to hear
The crimson talon croc out performs this one for sure make sure you give the croc a look
@@bowdude33 love the croc
Definately! The croc is a great head, my vote for best single bevel that won't break the bank.
Solid broadhead great video
Much appreciated
Should test the Iron Will SB150 Buff. Essentially the same thing just with thicker and with better quality steel.
Yeah, I’ve tested all of the iron wills except for that one.
Looks like a copy of the GrizzlyStik Maasai.
Yeah, a few have similar styles-like the Crimson Talon Cleaver as well, and the Slick Trick Single Bevel.
The fact that it rotated only 5° kinda defeats the purpose of a single bevel.
Well, some people prefer it that way. Remember, it will rotate quite a bit more in an animal than it does in the gel. It’s just enough to split bone a bit.
Best broadhead company imo. USA made! Magnus user for years. Debated on these for my upcoming bear hunt. Man I wish they offered 125 grainers. Had a pk on release but sold them regrettably. May have to get a pk. 50 lb dw not sure? 455 grs
That extra 25 gr will help your down range momentum a bit.
Straight edge please not curved. Don’t what to have to buy a sharpening system to keep them sharp.
Yeah, straight is easier to sharpen. But curved tend to penetrate a bit more effectively.
I have taken many animals with Magnus heads, and their warranty is amazing, plus the customer service is beyond great..
I personally feel, you can't find a better head, doesn't matter which one you try..
I know that's a very bold statement, but, i would say try them, you will not be disappointed..
Geat video as usual.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Looks a lot like another handful of inexpensive single bevels like the Crimson Talon Clever
Similar. Different steel
Not bad. I'd still prefer the wider cut and shorter profile of the Black Hornet.
Yeah, I like that head as well-each has its purpose.
How in the world is this design an improvement and top dollar at that. Such a sham. If this style was around 30 years ago it would be so out of date. It’s called a double bladed Bear and the single bevel actually seems primitive by any modern standards.
That’s interesting that you say that. This design and a single bevel two blade head has received quite a bit of support and attention in recent years. That’s why they came out with it. It’s all about demand, and there’s a lot of it right now.
Would love to see a total single bevel showdown unbiased just all side by side comparison
Thank you. My testing is consistent with every head I test...so any heads can be compared to any others, by watching the videos or reading the scores in the video description. The challenge with single bevels is there are SO MANY variations in them, all providing different strengths and weaknesses. Smaller diameters penetrate more deeply, but don't cut as much tissue. Slighter bevel angles penetrate better but don't rotate as much. Thicker blades rotate better and are more durable but don't penetrate as much...etc. It's nice to have the options to best suit your needs.
Cool thing is if you don’t know how to sharpen or don’t want to they sell a 3 pack of blades for only 15 bucks!
Right?
John what are your arrow specs? Draw length? Thanks for the content
I usually share it in the vids. 27” draw, 67#, 500 gr
Looks like a good head for a trad bow
Yep
Yep
If I have a 28 inch draw length what arrow weight do you recommend with the 125gr head ?
It depends on the poundage of your bow and length of your arrows. You want to make sure the arrow spine is correct.
Serious killer blade with excellent stats thanks 🤝
Thanks for watching.
How can you forget to mention how does it fly? All the other stuff is nice but if it won’t hit the target your review was wasted energy
I’m not sure what you’re referring to. I have a flight test in the video. That accounts for 20% of the score of every Broadhead I test.
Well, it's a Magnus. Of course it is going to be excellent!
:)
Wow it spun perfect after the brick test I just hope he makes it a little wider
Yeah, I prefer wider as well. But there are many who don’t think the diameter of the cut matters much. Of course it penetrates better with a smaller cut, but I want as much damage as possible while I’m getting a pass thru.
Purchased 2 pack for these Texas hogs
Nice
Could it get any better? That is an awesome head. 👍👍🔥👀
:)
Nice. Now, offer a 200 grain version
Not sure what they have planned
Dang that is impressive after hitting the concrete!
Right?
Been hunting with them for 15 years. Never fail.
Well, these heads have only been on the market for a few months...but yes, Magnus heads do well.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures single bevel heads. Guess I should be more specific. Sorry.
Do they come in 100 grain?
Not at this point; only 150
Basically a grizzly stick…
There are a few heads that have the same design nowadays. This one, one by Slick Trick, and one by Crimson talon.
John, when you shot the concrete block on the first shot it looked like the knock came off but in the last frame the nock was still there. What did I see fly off the shaft? Also, and I’m not trying to pit one against the other, but can you say what you see as the differences between the Crimson Talon Cleaver 150 and this Magnus 150?
The nock did fly out. You are seeing a collar in the last angle.
That was the nock that flew off. There is also a steel collar on the back end of the arrow.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I can see that. Thanks for clearing that up. When I was watching it impact in the first frame it looks like I was looking right in the end of an empty shaft and couldn’t pick up on the collar
Less go!
:)
I want heavier grain options
That’s a good thing to tell Magnus.
I did. We’ll see.
Not impressed!
Ok. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Anyone else skip to 1:42 of every video to skip the same thing he's said repeatedly for the past 2 or more years? Great tests just got to skip the repetition of the intro.
Give the guy a break bro. I'm sure he's doing that for people who are first time viewers.
Yeah, I know it’s repetitive for people who have watched my videos a lot. That’s why you have a fast-forward feature. But believe it or not there are thousands and thousands who have never watched my videos before. I get new viewers every week. And it’s important for them to know what’s up. Even as it is, I get hundreds of questions About information that’s included in my video describing the Broadhead test process. It saves me a lot more time to repeat it for a minute and a half that it does to answer hundreds and hundreds of questions saying the same thing.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Always some armchair expert trying to tell you how to do your videos. The rest of us are smart enough to know what you said before you sad it. Keep on doing what you do brother.