@@devontebroom6800 well if it was the same offense Flacco ran which was play action instead of shotguns every down like Kevin Shotgun STEFANSKI has him in now Watson would have flourished
For a guy who threw back to back pick 6s to put a playoff game out of reach, he gets a ton of love. I thought this was a “what have you done for me lately” league.
With a terrible O-Line Play, lack of running game and WRs leading the league, that can impact ANY QB. So screw those numbers you haters love to bring up because the answer is in the film. The offense is a mess, but it's fixable. And that starts with Watson abandoning the shotgun position he prefers and reverting back to playing in Kevin's conventional offense. Playing under center with the use of play action will alleviate some of the troubles this offense is plagued with, so when Watson accepts changing his playstyle for a more practical one, this team will smash teams in their mouths. And that starts with Philly IF Kevin & Watson had that talk, and they go through with Kevin's scheme. Cuz I'm a believer in both of those men. Numbers dont lie, but they also don't read in between the lines. 💯
Thanks man 👍... Why bring that up 🤔... That's not a good enough excuse... Fans that don't know crap about football or his ACTUAL personal life besides his downfall... Don't care about that... Let's just be honest...
Yeah, I know it’s terrible and it’s also a terrible loss for no one to recognize it and show empathy is horrible and I know that plays on his emotions, especially during play especially seeing in the fact that him and his dad were close horrible horrible that nobody acknowledges it heartless But they can acknowledge 26 women when the actual number was only three because 22 quarts would allow that bull crap evidence, but somehow the NFL only pulled out three not only to top the fact that they’re saying that the current issue is settled, but they didn’t tell you the truth that it was resolved because she came with absolutely nothing she didn’t cooperate with the NFL. It was all lie, but here we are today with a guy on the field that probably has tons of film running through his head and not just off off the field, but on terrible situation.
I was saying the same thing. When I see all these other teams running they offense and i see them moving the ball running plays then I see Browns running basic plays and can't complete plays it makes no sense!!
Sigh. Here is the deal. Flacco is not the solution. He is a placement holder. To bench Watson is to move on from Watson. Then put in DTR and stick with him until the end of the year. Asking for Flacco is not ideal. He can't run and he throws a lot of picks
G said it was 3rd and 12 and Watson wouldn't take the check down, he scrambled and went out of bounds. Followed by why won't he throw the underneath and live to fight another day. BECAUSE IT'S 3RD DOWN AND PLAYERS HAVEN'T BEEN MAKING PLAYS. What are we doing. King talked about Aaron Rogers playing bad ball and y'all dismissed that because it doesn't fit your narrative.
I trust kevin and deshaun nfl is a tuff league every team outside of the cheifs is had ups n downs new coaches need to mesh oline needs to get healthy and consistency
Watson is terrible. He makes horrible decisions, even when he has plenty of time. He just does not see the field any more. I think he is cooked. All of his off field stuff fried his brain.
Y'all acting like the Browns lost to a Washington team that is a 0-4. Y'all living in the past, BIG TIME! Washington was 3-1 facing against Browns. They might be the worst 3 down defensive team but NOT the worst team in the NFL.
Never say never if you don't know what lies ahead in the future. Even if he rides the bench for two more years , I'll eventually get my money's worth by him riding the pine. Maybe that's the wake up call he needs to get out of his own way.
Joe Flaco cmp 70.0 % yds 527 TD 5 int 0 Rate 115.6 o yea and he ran for 21 yards ! IN 2 GAMES. Watson. 60.2. 852. 5. 3. 74.8. IN 5 GAMES. Yea Flacco might be all the things you said but still way above and beyond Watson !
If he was traded to Carolina he would win the superbowl because the Browns head coach is so terrible with that horrible offense and play calling and leadership.. I’m willing to bet Watson would be playoff bound just like every other player that leaves the Browns!
We’ve all seen Deshaun ball ,everything is different this season, o line, play calling, playbook, new case popped up for Deshaun,Arron Rodger’s look bad too!
let's be honest , if Winston was any good , he would he would be starting somewhere in the NFL. i don't think there is a QB in the league that could have any measure of success with this team. the browns are just bad in every aspect of the game
He had offers to start other places he chose Cleveland over those places on being the Giants. He wanted to be a Brown His father wanted Winston to go to the Browns. Unlike DeShaun, Winston wants to be in Cleveland.
Give Winston a shot. He's not the long term answer. But it could help give the offense a jolt of energy and they could rally behind him like they did Flacco. What is there to lose?
DW is like a power tool that defect life time warranty battery that it isn’t getting full charging for using, it’s useable but not lasting long and strong to do the job more efficiently
Winston is better arm talent, better on 3rd down and in the redzone. People speak on his 30int and not remember his offense was scoring 30ppg before Evans and Godwin got her even without them they finished averaging 28.6ppg which was 3rd in the league.
I hate the Browns and don't feel bad for them. I liked Baker and thought he could be better. He had a shoulder injury that he tried to play thru. They will not bench Deshaun. They want the #1 pick and grab their future QB.
No one is taking on him or his contract. Bench him.. try to win with Jameis.. if it doesn't work over the next 4 games, then see what you have in DTR.. and if all that breaks you get a new 1st rd QB next year while you pay DW to ride the bench. If it works a bit then you draft a LT 1st round.
We'd have called for Joe after 2 weeks. It's week 6 and I don't see call for Winston, lets bench Watson and play DTR... When Jameis is a stud, and a younger Version of Joe Flacco in terms of what he could do...
Shaun King hit it right on the head, it is Deshaun Watson's bad attitude and work habit. The GM nor head coach has reign Watson in and gave him a reality check. Lets be clear the Browns can ruin Deshaun if Deshaun gets mouthy but the Browns won't get their money back, though.
Just incompetence by Bull and Jay suggesting to cut Watson after 5 games coming off of a fractured shoulder and a disjointed offensive system. Embarrassing and amateur hour stuff.
I was listening until he said Deshaun threw a fit near the goal line. That is total BS so that erases any credibility. of what he says. I remember when he played and he wasnt that good.
I’m moving on to Philly, we haven’t even played a division game yet,and yall jumping ship on ya qtr back like it’s all his fault we looked bad,cleveland media is terrible
SK - Cleveland could use you to be QB coach... DW needs someone to not walk on egg shells around him.... Tell him, your missing check down, your missing everything etc..... There's no plan on correction even if its possible.
Im not gonna lie. I just started rooting for the browns since amari cooper got there. Since he is my favorite player in the league. The one thing i noticed about the fans is they are the most fickle ive ever seen of any fans. The same players yall had the most respect for someone one moment, then clown the same players you just had respect for. The fans part of the problem yall sooo messy the aura is consistently negative. In every game i can see that negative energy weigh on the players. Smh
I don’t think Dashaun Watson trusts any of his receivers. They keep burning him with dropped passes. Deflected passes for interceptions, and his confidence in them is completely shot…on the other side of the coin, the receivers don’t believe in Watson. He overthrows them and misses them when they’re open. This is just a recipe for disaster. We need to get back to our roots and run the ball effectively, and complement the run with play action passes.
That's why we need new management and coaching. Getting rid of Hunt was plain stupid. I have no faith that Stefanski will ever call plays in a superbowl
If Muhammad Ali had to fight like Mike Tyson, would he still be the great Ali? If Mike Tyson had to fight like Ali would he still of been kid dynamite, the answer is no to both questions. Deshwan needs an offense that fits his style. They are trying to make him something that he is not and are not playing to his strengths. Play to his strengths and run the same offense he had with the Texans or at least something similar, not the exact damn opposite, which Is what they have been doing with this type of Offense
I think Watson doesn't prepare, whether that is laziness, or he is too stupid to comprehend the schemes is unknown, but it is blatantly obvious that he cannot read defenses, and does not appear to understand the offense he is running! RPO requires him making decisions based on what he sees, and appears to blind man!
If you cut desuawn cut the whole line it's not his fault the line has sucked for years how many quarterbacks have to fall from the crappy offensive line
Jay is hilarious. Him and Jason are the 2 most negative hosts on this show. They'll mask it in "reality" but before anything happens on the field/ court they have negative takes then if or when it happens they get worse.
@@bbmartin7055 thank you somebody who see it. When they brought Watson in I told my family "I don't know I'm still worried about this coach". Because when he won coach of the year he was calling plays to give away obvious wins.
Shit he prolly rather leave! Why stay and play for a fan base that never wanted you 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️ id leave the dumpster of place like everyone else does 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
I’m moving on to Philly, we haven’t even played a division game yet,and yall jumping ship on ya qtr back like it’s all his fault we looked bad,cleveland media is terrible
So did they not watch Flacco get embarrassed in the playoffs 😂
Yeah I wonder what would've happened if deshaun played.. 😂
@@devontebroom6800 well if it was the same offense Flacco ran which was play action instead of shotguns every down like Kevin Shotgun STEFANSKI has him in now Watson would have flourished
Daniel Jones has been starting for how long now? We have to let him play through this.
Get off Joe Flacco nuts. He doesn’t play here anymore
For a guy who threw back to back pick 6s to put a playoff game out of reach, he gets a ton of love. I thought this was a “what have you done for me lately” league.
Depends on who throws the picks they move the goal post
@@deandreblack7760 facts
Facts it’s sad
@@chillywillieg13 It's because this fanbase and it's sports media is bunch of sorry losers.
With a terrible O-Line Play, lack of running game and WRs leading the league, that can impact ANY QB.
So screw those numbers you haters love to bring up because the answer is in the film.
The offense is a mess, but it's fixable. And that starts with Watson abandoning the shotgun position he prefers and reverting back to playing in Kevin's conventional offense.
Playing under center with the use of play action will alleviate some of the troubles this offense is plagued with, so when Watson accepts changing his playstyle for a more practical one, this team will smash teams in their mouths.
And that starts with Philly IF Kevin & Watson had that talk, and they go through with Kevin's scheme.
Cuz I'm a believer in both of those men. Numbers dont lie, but they also don't read in between the lines. 💯
@@AceSolomon94 leading the league in drops. Being paid millions to suck....I cannot fathom!
Why is everybody scared to say Stefanski Offense is garbage
Thank you!! 💯
bc his offense worked under every other qb maybe? use common sense
@@nickh5408 no his run game did which he didnt run it was Callahan!! Jis passing offense has always been shitty!!
@@jamestaylor2979the system works now sometimes his game plans suck…right now wr running open and the qb can’t get the ball to them bc he’s trash
You right about that
Nobody is talking about how Watson lost his dad this season
Thanks man 👍... Why bring that up 🤔... That's not a good enough excuse... Fans that don't know crap about football or his ACTUAL personal life besides his downfall... Don't care about that... Let's just be honest...
DW has not played well since they signed him nothing is going to change.
Yeah, I know it’s terrible and it’s also a terrible loss for no one to recognize it and show empathy is horrible and I know that plays on his emotions, especially during play especially seeing in the fact that him and his dad were close horrible horrible that nobody acknowledges it heartless But they can acknowledge 26 women when the actual number was only three because 22 quarts would allow that bull crap evidence, but somehow the NFL only pulled out three not only to top the fact that they’re saying that the current issue is settled, but they didn’t tell you the truth that it was resolved because she came with absolutely nothing she didn’t cooperate with the NFL. It was all lie, but here we are today with a guy on the field that probably has tons of film running through his head and not just off off the field, but on terrible situation.
Why do you guys never let anyone finish answering your question before asking them another one!?
I know a little about Shaun King, but hearing him speak and analyzing impressed me immensely. Will be seeking out Shaun King more.
Let's be thankful you are not the one making that decision Jay
I was saying the same thing. When I see all these other teams running they offense and i see them moving the ball running plays then I see Browns running basic plays and can't complete plays it makes no sense!!
Still feel some way about Shaun King blowing the NFC Championship Game in 99 vs the Rams.
Sigh. Here is the deal. Flacco is not the solution. He is a placement holder. To bench Watson is to move on from Watson. Then put in DTR and stick with him until the end of the year. Asking for Flacco is not ideal. He can't run and he throws a lot of picks
Jameis is the answer.
There not going to bench 230 mill u dig!!!!!!!!!
7th round for Watson you guys are nuts 😂😂😂 stop it
Isnt it Ken Dorsey's Offense and Stefanski is just calling the plays?? I thought Cleveland installed a brand new Offense that was foreign.
They just shined up the same turd, smells the same though.
Shaun king needs to be on tv. I love his breakdowns!!!
Remember Houston paid him to stay home instead of cutting him
1-13 on third down how many were passes vs run?
joe flacco was 4-1 last year watson was 5-1 what are we really talkin about!!
What has Watson done this year
@@rickynotestine9963nothing
Watson was trash
@@rickynotestine9963 im referencing last year like they did in the video keep up!!
@@Dondada445-f2t so was flacco bounced in the first round against a rookie
G said it was 3rd and 12 and Watson wouldn't take the check down, he scrambled and went out of bounds. Followed by why won't he throw the underneath and live to fight another day. BECAUSE IT'S 3RD DOWN AND PLAYERS HAVEN'T BEEN MAKING PLAYS. What are we doing. King talked about Aaron Rogers playing bad ball and y'all dismissed that because it doesn't fit your narrative.
Something going on in Deshawn Watson mind!!!
Watson going to ball out none of this matters
So Delusional
Nowhere to go from here but up. But benching Watson isn't the answer. The Browns signed him so they need to play him each week.
@@jasoncampbell5518 yo mama
Your living in a fantasy world. This guy is DONE. He will never be anything more than inconsistent.
@@gregputman sure bud
I trust kevin and deshaun nfl is a tuff league every team outside of the cheifs is had ups n downs new coaches need to mesh oline needs to get healthy and consistency
4 has been the worst QB in the league besides Bryce Young
Watson is terrible. He makes horrible decisions, even when he has plenty of time. He just does not see the field any more. I think he is cooked. All of his off field stuff fried his brain.
Give Watson to Miami.
I really l liked what Shaun had to say today,keeping it real 💯
Y'all acting like the Browns lost to a Washington team that is a 0-4. Y'all living in the past, BIG TIME! Washington was 3-1 facing against Browns. They might be the worst 3 down defensive team but NOT the worst team in the NFL.
Funny, i found myself lightweight depressed watching the Lions-Seahawks game thinking "so this is what efficient offensive execution looks like?"😩🎉
All y’all gone eat crow when Deshaun bounces back! What kinda brown’s show is this
Never say never if you don't know what lies ahead in the future. Even if he rides the bench for two more years , I'll eventually get my money's worth by him riding the pine. Maybe that's the wake up call he needs to get out of his own way.
I think DW has 1 playoff win? Its sad there's any discussion on comparing with Rogers. Hey, did you replace the fire detector batteries? Well Done!
Joe Flaco cmp 70.0 % yds 527 TD 5 int 0 Rate 115.6 o yea and he ran for 21 yards ! IN 2 GAMES. Watson. 60.2. 852. 5. 3. 74.8. IN 5 GAMES. Yea Flacco might be all the things you said but still way above and beyond Watson !
If he was traded to Carolina he would win the superbowl because the Browns head coach is so terrible with that horrible offense and play calling and leadership.. I’m willing to bet Watson would be playoff bound just like every other player that leaves the Browns!
💯 I'm with you. Stefanski gets us nowhere regardless who's playing QB
We’ve all seen Deshaun ball ,everything is different this season, o line, play calling, playbook, new case popped up for Deshaun,Arron Rodger’s look bad too!
let's be honest , if Winston was any good , he would he would be starting somewhere in the NFL. i don't think there is a QB in the league that could have any measure of success with this team. the browns are just bad in every aspect of the game
Mabey true . But at this point anyone is way better than Watson .
@@jasoncampbell5518no not just anyone
@@jasoncampbell5518Is it Watson or the offense what if you put Winston in & it’s the same no the team is ruined
Strong point , but you could have said the same thing about Flacco just before the Browns signed him last year .
He had offers to start other places he chose Cleveland over those places on being the Giants. He wanted to be a Brown His father wanted Winston to go to the Browns. Unlike DeShaun, Winston wants to be in Cleveland.
Give Winston a shot. He's not the long term answer. But it could help give the offense a jolt of energy and they could rally behind him like they did Flacco. What is there to lose?
Winston can do exactly what DW has done so far. And I’m betting that he can do better
DW is like a power tool that defect life time warranty battery that it isn’t getting full charging for using, it’s useable but not lasting long and strong to do the job more efficiently
Give Watson a break and put in Winston for a game. We already have a qb controversy
It's all Deshaun fault 🐂😒
The fans will be so relieved if they just cut Watson and get him out of here. Get this cross off the team.
Winston is better arm talent, better on 3rd down and in the redzone. People speak on his 30int and not remember his offense was scoring 30ppg before Evans and Godwin got her even without them they finished averaging 28.6ppg which was 3rd in the league.
I hate the Browns and don't feel bad for them. I liked Baker and thought he could be better. He had a shoulder injury that he tried to play thru. They will not bench Deshaun. They want the #1 pick and grab their future QB.
It’s already awkward. They can flip flop QBs as necessary.
Damn Jay really...smh
Ty...King sees the whole picture...Jay interrupts too much
Look at Shawn's facial expression, it says it all
No one is taking on him or his contract. Bench him.. try to win with Jameis.. if it doesn't work over the next 4 games, then see what you have in DTR.. and if all that breaks you get a new 1st rd QB next year while you pay DW to ride the bench. If it works a bit then you draft a LT 1st round.
As a Texan fan … I’m ok 😂
We'd have called for Joe after 2 weeks. It's week 6 and I don't see call for Winston, lets bench Watson and play DTR... When Jameis is a stud, and a younger Version of Joe Flacco in terms of what he could do...
Shaun King is money in this segment
The only way to get out of the DW mess is to draft a QB next year, so the worst we play this year the better. C'mon guys its so obvious
It has nothing to do with Stefanski?
Shaun King hit it right on the head, it is Deshaun Watson's bad attitude and work habit. The GM nor head coach has reign Watson in and gave him a reality check. Lets be clear the Browns can ruin Deshaun if Deshaun gets mouthy but the Browns won't get their money back, though.
Just incompetence by Bull and Jay suggesting to cut Watson after 5 games coming off of a fractured shoulder and a disjointed offensive system. Embarrassing and amateur hour stuff.
The game of thrones love was beautiful lmao
I was listening until he said Deshaun threw a fit near the goal line. That is total BS so that erases any credibility. of what he says. I remember when he played and he wasnt that good.
You can bring in Unitas Namath Brady you don't have a COACH.
I’m moving on to Philly, we haven’t even played a division game yet,and yall jumping ship on ya qtr back like it’s all his fault we looked bad,cleveland media is terrible
SK - Cleveland could use you to be QB coach... DW needs someone to not walk on egg shells around him.... Tell him, your missing check down, your missing everything etc..... There's no plan on correction even if its possible.
Shout out to the Game of Thrones! Eddard went out bad!
Winston was the qb when they converted that 3rd down toom
Watson never should have been recruited. Mayfield was better...
They just said he played well the previous game and now they want to run him out of here but to be honest the whole team played like shit.
Im not gonna lie. I just started rooting for the browns since amari cooper got there. Since he is my favorite player in the league. The one thing i noticed about the fans is they are the most fickle ive ever seen of any fans. The same players yall had the most respect for someone one moment, then clown the same players you just had respect for. The fans part of the problem yall sooo messy the aura is consistently negative. In every game i can see that negative energy weigh on the players. Smh
Some fans will get that way after 30 yrs of garbage!😮
Im glad kevin is sticking with deshaun only way we get better
I don’t think Dashaun Watson trusts any of his receivers. They keep burning him with dropped passes. Deflected passes for interceptions, and his confidence in them is completely shot…on the other side of the coin, the receivers don’t believe in Watson. He overthrows them and misses them when they’re open. This is just a recipe for disaster. We need to get back to our roots and run the ball effectively, and complement the run with play action passes.
That's why we need new management and coaching. Getting rid of Hunt was plain stupid. I have no faith that Stefanski will ever call plays in a superbowl
If Muhammad Ali had to fight like Mike Tyson, would he still be the great Ali? If Mike Tyson had to fight like Ali would he still of been kid dynamite, the answer is no to both questions. Deshwan needs an offense that fits his style. They are trying to make him something that he is not and are not playing to his strengths. Play to his strengths and run the same offense he had with the Texans or at least something similar, not the exact damn opposite, which Is what they have been doing with this type of Offense
I think Watson doesn't prepare, whether that is laziness, or he is too stupid to comprehend the schemes is unknown, but it is blatantly obvious that he cannot read defenses, and does not appear to understand the offense he is running! RPO requires him making decisions based on what he sees, and appears to blind man!
Watson leaves Cleveland and improves.. It's Cleveland the organization is dysfunctional ASF .
If you cut desuawn cut the whole line it's not his fault the line has sucked for years how many quarterbacks have to fall from the crappy offensive line
You have a guest who played quarterback in the NFL and G Bush and company respond to his every response like they know better. Comical
Jay is hilarious. Him and Jason are the 2 most negative hosts on this show. They'll mask it in "reality" but before anything happens on the field/ court they have negative takes then if or when it happens they get worse.
This team quit on Stefanski since the first game before Deshaun Watson ever completed a game this season.
Nobody wants to say it but I will.
Well, Stefanski is a department store manager who puts his team in horrible positions with his play calling.
@@bbmartin7055 thank you somebody who see it. When they brought Watson in I told my family "I don't know I'm still worried about this coach". Because when he won coach of the year he was calling plays to give away obvious wins.
With all the play break downs of DW. All day he CAN SEE what is going on he can not read simple defense
Kevin TOOFANCY
Shannon is here 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆
Jay proving how dumb he is
Give Watson an ultimatum, win or hit the road, then see if it lights a fire. If he's still garbage then it's on him. Start the rebuild.
Shit he prolly rather leave! Why stay and play for a fan base that never wanted you 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️ id leave the dumpster of place like everyone else does 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Baker Mayfield is 😂'ing
they hated him too until he left!!!
READ that latest DW SA Settlement. READ IT TO YOUR AUDIENCE. Talk about it. I DARE YOU. You're all hypocrites.
SHAUN KING 😂😂😂 IS A DAMN BUMBS FOH
Flacco Jonesing - ua-cam.com/video/5SGotcgiE8o/v-deo.html
Because YOU DON'T HAVE A COACH
I’m moving on to Philly, we haven’t even played a division game yet,and yall jumping ship on ya qtr back like it’s all his fault we looked bad,cleveland media is terrible