Sebastian Telfair Agrees with Gilbert Arenas Saying Vince Carter was Too Nice (Part 12)
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Sebastian Telfair shared his thoughts on Gilbert Arenas’ controversial take on Vince Carter. Arenas suggested Carter could have reached Michael Jordan’s level, claiming he had the ideal physical attributes but was “too nice.” Telfair partially disagreed, defending Carter’s career, which spanned two decades. He argued Carter had one of the best careers in the NBA, highlighted by his athletic longevity and consistent competitive spirit. Telfair emphasized that Carter’s success couldn’t have been achieved without dedication, dismissing the notion of him being lazy. However, Telfair did agree with Arenas on one point: Carter’s demeanor. He acknowledged that Carter missed the tenacious, killer instinct of players like Jordan, Kobe Bryant, and LeBron James. Yet, Telfair believes Carter maximized his talents, arguing that not everyone needs to be ruthless to achieve greatness.
At the end of the day Vince became a hall of famer, made over $200 million in NBA earnings, North Carolina legend, and will likely have his jersey retired by two NBA teams (Nets and Raptors), and already has his number retired by North Carolina. Lastly, Vince will keep a job related to the NBA because he's a good ambassador for the league with him being known a "Nice" guy.
U would agree if u understood. Yea Vince is cool a hof player. But his build is the same as Kobe and Jordan. Jumping out the gym. Fade, long arms. I’m that case he could have been an all timer. Not meaning he just sucked and was lazy
Nets already retired his number
Michael Beasley was a grest answer 😂
Beasley put in the work. He just wasn’t there mentally….
True.
Beasley was not super athletic tho
Bassy deffy needs to be on a platform where he can share his insights about the league and about basketball in general on a daily basis. He knows what he’s talking about, he has the experience, he’s not afraid to speak truth to power and he was one of the nicest 12yo to 18yo players of all time. I’m not even from NYC and I remember hearing about him when he was in middle school…..Most importantly he’s entertaining! And At the end of the day that’s what it’s all about right? “Entertainment” keep doin ur thing king!
Fr. I’d listen to a bassy podcast
Vince Carter picked the right moves too late. He went to the teams after they had their runs. Nets, Magic, Suns, Mavs, he was always a year or two too late.
Yep
Thats what he gets for being a lazy talented player could of got it done if he was more on point
Memphis too. He would’ve been great for the 12/13 grindhouse Grizzlies.
🎯🎯🎯 🎯
He went to magic at the right time for the magic just not for himself
Gilbert wish he had the career VC had. Gilbert is a corn 🌽
Always shitting on players as if he didn’t blow those free throws because LeBron talked him out of them wow
@@PhilPeeVa nigga momma named him Gilbert lol. He’s a rich corny mfk
He’s right though. Vince Carter should’ve been up there with Mike and Kobe
@@Arcanenix he’s probably the most Athletic player to ever come play he’s a HOF but the teams he was on wasn’t the best he never played on a team that had true championship aspirations
@@pesopeso1668not an excuse lebron took a below average team to the finals. This not really about bron fr but the point is VC has similar athleticism as lebron but he’s quicker more fluid and crafty in the air. You would think he would have been an mvp. Dont mention nets finals because JKidd was the leader of that team
Vlad straight up lied about what Gilbert said. 😂
he's shameless
Gill did say that
He said I call him lazy cause he was too nice
Gilbert said dat....check his pod
3:16 Vlad said he didn’t want to put words in his mouth after he showed the clip. You must of made this comment without watching the whole video 😂
Vince Carter was the Roy Jones Jr. of the NBA. Athletic Talented Freak.
Roy was a champ
@@lutherdankwa6951 exactly this guy sounds absolutely Crazy Roy was a 4x 4 class World Champion and the only Boxer to start at light heavyweight and win the world Heavy heavyweight championship.
Facts I get what u saying bro
@@cedricfontenette9187 Thank you bro...pety ass boys on here acting like I don't know Roy's accolades..I'm talkin about their freakish talent like wtf? Because Vince didn't win a championship in a team sport vs. an individual sport it negates this? Weirdos bro..
Lol both from Florida too
Vince played 18 seasons. Excellent career.
He played 22 years
@@kel5088 thank you. I knew it was something amazing.
100
At least 21
He had 8 excellent seasons and the rest were average role player seasons.
I’ll say JR. Smith me personally
dude had HOF talent but he was a goofy
You’re not a professional player so what you says doesn’t count
@@369pendulum I’ll listen to him over nobody’s in the comments.
@@Lenasevilla-yb4ei Well you’re a nobody too so who gives af who you listen to? Move around
Or oj mayo
Theres no way somebody stays in The NBA as Long as Vince without working hard
Caption is cap, Telfair disagreed with Gilbert.
Keep watching they played the Gil clip then he agreed
On soul he agreed this not twitter watch the whole video 😂
but he really did and that's after watching the whole video
@@Chali_M title isn't cap and if you think it is then I question your IQ
The title is out of context which means it’s misleading.
Theses interviews with Telfair are good
Love your style, keep rocking it!
Sebastian should appreciate cam and mase for the alley oop he been on a run ever since
Loved watching Vince Carter (especially with the Raptors and the Nets) and what he brought to the game. Thank you to Telfair for giving Vince much respect. Jordan was Jordan. Vince was Vince. To me, the only thing that threw Vince off course was that missed three in the playoffs against Iverson. If that shot would have gone in, things might have been a little different. Another thing that had an effect, was when T-Mac left for Orlando, the disagreements with Toronto management, and not playing during some of his injuries. Jordan didn't give a fuck about no one. Vince was a gentleman to everyone. Jordan is the face of modern basketball. Vince Carter, with his athleticism and showmanship, is modern basketball. Vince Carter is deserving of the NBA Hall of Fame.
I don’t feel like Vince Carter didn’t work hard. I feel like he avoided driving to the basket and settled for jumpers too much. Took the pressure off the defense.
The man had over 25,000 pts he had a great career
Vlad gonna get Gil snuffed if he keeps putting words in his mouth lol
Isiah stewart had Gil coppin pleas 😂😂😂
I think Vince changed his game at the wrong time. Seemed like he got less aggressive and started to shoot more.
His athleticism was absolutely on an mj lbj russ level.
If Vince got mad we'd be living in a differnt world today 😂
This!!!!
I'm pretty sure, he's been made, but everyone that's mad don't have the exact same reactions.
We need bassy on gils arena
He can’t leave NY
Whatever! Vince Carter made us believe that the Nike Shox had springs 😅
Only thing missing is a ring for his career. HOF nonetheless
Facts
Big facts
I mean how tho ? What makes him a HOF ? What did he do besides win a dunk contest
@@lavellrobinson1648best player on a finals team
@@California-king Vince Carter has never played in the finals
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Vinsanity!
What Bassy has been through is inspirational. Keep your head up Bassy!
How? He caught a gun charge snd avoided jail for health care insurance fraud 😂
Ain't nothing Inspirational about him... I like his interviews but the Man is a bit off of his rockers, and he's no one I would look to for inspiration. "Too Each Is On"
You obviously grew up with no dad to look up to a person like this 😂😂
Mike Beasley is who I would say never lived up to the elite potential he had!
Being a kind person is a bad thing on earth 💀
On the court..yeah. If he was more competitive, he would have got a ring. He had a chance with the magic his first year and in 2007 with the nets
Not saying Gil A isnt qualified to know, but looking at his career, Gil isnt qualified to speak on VC
F.O.H.
I always say:
MJ
Kobe
Mike Tyson
Lawrence Taylor
Pete Rose
Honorable mention Jim Brown
My top 5 dead or alive killer instinct athletes.
its your list much respect , but no Tom Brady???
@kiddthomas3375 killer instinct? Um hummm...he was a beast but I dunno
@@TheRealDeal1438 Brady is a literal definition of a "Killer Instinct" athlete lol
Gilbert got some nerve lol
I don’t think he maximized his ability. VC dropped off too quickly. He definitely should have been a 10 top player all time
Vince is the dunking 🐐
Many talented athletes get by because they have talent.But it doesnt mean they couldnt have been better.ONLY ATHLETES get this.We have seen a lot of atjletes who relies on talent.Yet never made it to the pros.Others have!
It takes more than TALENT to make it at a professional level! You have to have lots of self discipline,financial discipline, and social discipline that comes with AGE,EXPERIENCE, & MATURITY!!! that’s why 4 years of COLLEGE is supposed to prepare these young guys for the Pro’s ! 1-2 years isn’t enough! But when you have the talent and can’t afford to miss out on big money in the nba, and don’t want to risk any serious injuries while playing in College then these players rush into the professional ranks without realizing these factors in life !
'Uncle Gil' with the cold takes again. Guy had 2 good years and hates on everyone else.
Tim Duncan was nice
Much respect to Vince Carter, but Gilbert Arenas can be outrageous with his basketball takes.
Completely
@@teasystableent It is what it is.
U would agree if u understood. Yea Vince is cool a hof player. But his build is the same as Kobe and Jordan. Jumping out the gym. Fade, long arms. I’m that case he could have been an all timer. Not meaning he just sucked and was lazy
@@cedes635 I respect that.
Athleticism with first step and explosiveness, handles, range. Vince literally had it all. The only thing he never exceled at was drawing fouls, one skill he never mastered. Unfortunately, even if you max out physicals attributes it's still mentality that shapes the overall product. And Vince after he came back from his first knee surgery just didn't seem the same, to me it felt like he settled. As a fan, at the end I always felt he could have done more.
As athletic as Vince was….he should’ve been much more sound on the defense end
If Vince Carter had a different agent he would've been Iggy
What that supposed to mean?
Don’t ever put Iggy and Vince in the same convo. Vince was a superstar from 99-01’.
@@StevenA24 Iggy was a bonafide superstar, Vince being one of the few above him as fair as highlight reels go. But he also has rings
Vince has no rings
@@lustbubo4638 you’re absolutely buggin. Iggy was nice, but he was never perceived as a number 1 option for a contender. Vince was a shot away from potentially leading the Raptors to the finals. Let me put things into perspective. Vince was the number 1 vote getter for multiple all star games including an all star game that included MJ. What we talking about here ?
Iggy could never average 27ppg
Ima sixers fan and Vince carter use to torch us in the playoffs and during the season …he had a legendary series against Iverson
I like hearing Bassy talk ball. I think he'd be a decent coach
Well the truth is one of the boxes IS extreme competitiveness and dogged determination. Its a box all its own.
The caption is a lie.
Totally Agree‼️ A Beast🏀
Gilbert TALKS like he had a better career than VC,just because VC wasn't in the gym as much as Kobe n Gil doesn't mean an entire wasn't worried abt VC vs a team worried abt Gil......Let's see if Gil make it to the HOF
Calling BS on this - Vince Carter played 22 seasons and the last 8 or so he was a role player and a good one at that
Gilbert should been way better than what he was
It was pretty sad how Covid ruined Vince Carter's farewell season, he really deserved to have a proper sendoff game.
I agree wit Bassy
he need to just go on and start a fuhccn flashbacc clips Flad station.
VC became a journeyman way too early.
Starting to feel the same way about Paul George and KD foreal, smh…
@@Pop_Richie yoooo
Tell Bass💪
Not if he wasn’t lazy, Gilbert Arenas said if he had the mind state of Kobe than he would’ve been greater
Vlad just exposed himself in lying saying that Gil said Carter didn't have work ethic. Gil said I'm not saying that and Vlad come back saying "I don't wanna put words in his mouth after he already did.
Vince is a legend, making all the money. But Gilbert isn't lying. He just had a nice upbringing and wasn't a dog.
Vince should should have been just as good as Kobe or better
Vince could do everything, he didn’t have the drive though. One of the greatest talents ever.
Vince Carter a legend crazy vertical
I don’t think ppl understand the SHAQ factor …any of those elite wings coulda got three rings if they played with shaq and was just as good as Kobe ….Kobe just felt like he had more to prove and the other dudes kinda fell back …
Definitely call cap. Vince had a GOOD career / but he’s not an all time great. Outside of the one year he made the conference finals against iverson he has no other playoff moments that stand out. AND HE PLAYED FOR 20 YEARS.
Gilbert played in the nba & says he knows what he talking but other nba players never agrees with anything he says😂
Vlad confused it they said that about tmac not vince carter, tmac didnt really go hard at practices cuz he was so gifted
He was more like the second coming of Dominique Wilkins in my opinion with a splash of Shawn Kemp.
Wilkins, YES! Shawn Kemp? No. Lol
He was more of an Alex English or George Gervin type of player.
@YouCanChangeYourWorldToday I respect your opinion but most people 45 and under never saw them play including myself let alone know who they are and I'm 47
@@inmyopinion9305 oh ok lol gotcha thanks I just like to watch a lot of espn classics and footage of games and players from the past just so I know my history! ✌️
@@YouCanChangeYourWorldToday 👍
Vince was better than MJ it's just a crowd loved MJ because of the showboating Vince had the ability to play more positions he could jump and dunk better and when you try to compare him to colby colby was just a shadow of Jordan
You gotta get Darius miles or Quention Richardson on the show Vlad
No soy un hater de Vince pero, antes de Vince, NY Nets llegó a 2 finales en 3 años...con Vinsanity, Jkidd and RJ como mucho llegaron a semis de conferencia... dicho esto, el mejor dunker de la historia para mí...
I would say Vince Carter and Blake griffin
Gil, just repeated what kobe said 20 years ago.. kobe, " vince is nice but he takes plays off"
What's his and every other players excuse then.
Bingo
For me it’s KD
Sebastian makes a lot more sense when he talks than Gilbert Arenas.
I agree , i said the samething..dint agree with Gilbert arenas take on vince carter vince just dint had another superstars @ him..he had tracy but tracy left..he had jason kid but shaq was in the way..vince just need better players @ him..
vince is the mike vick of basketball, minus the dog fighting.
Stop….Allen iverson is more comparable to Michael Vick
Starting a career in Canada didn't help.... Needed a strong US fan base to be a superstar here.
Not hating on Canada by any means, but I've always said that. That's why his cousin, T-Mac, fought like hell to get out of there. They were basically playing in Siberia at that time. Now, I will say this. Those two guys in particular, and including Chris Bosh, really paved the way for how dominant Canadian basketball has gotten. Canada will win a medal in this Olympics or the next one, and that medal will have Vince Carter & co. fingerprints all over it.
Carter did have a strong U.S fanbase. He had an expansion canadian team getting nationally broadcasted games. He led in all star voting in his time there he was an anomaly. Tmac and bosh tho didnt translate over to the US
Gilbert Arenas is not taking into account how physical defenders were with VC, if you watch any highlights, he was getting fouled worse than any other star
They were just lucky Vince doesnt have the Team to compete for championship early in his career at Raptors he had Antonio Davis Charles Oakley at New Jersey he had Nenad Kristic & collins or josh boone shaq timmy chris webber will eat those guys any night.
I agree with Gil
Same with Tim Thomas
Tim has handle shot height and everything
But was lazy and just didn't want it like that
I’ve been out on Vince *EVER* since he LEFT his squad🙄😒 *GAME7* of the *ECSF* to go get a degree 📜 (that he has *YET* to probably utilize) because his mommy told him to🤦🏾♂️
Shame Vince Carter never got a ring, he definitely deserved one.
You can tell Sebastian disagrees on nba players careers off the bitterness of how his career went
He competes against Kobe iverson mcgrady Paul pierce you saying he missing personality
Yall know Gil just be talkin out his neck
Vince never dominated a single season in the NBA. With all his tools he should have 1 mvp
So I wanna ask u guys a question. Pls answer honestly. If Tim Duncan didn’t win 5 chips, would u say he didn’t win because he was too nice?
I doubt that Vince, would be coached by an all time great Dean Smith, at a world renowned university, then put in 18-20 seasons as a professional, while being "Lazy"...😅
I disagree wholeheartedly!!!!
Y’all remember when Vince jumped over dude head? That wasn’t nice lol
Vince was too nice and Sebastian was too dumb…..
I agree with telfair for once 😂
If Vince Carter had Kobe or MJ mentality, he would've been top 5 of all time. Mid career imo 🤷🏾♂️
Vince wasted his prime in Toronto. Even Kawhi left after winning a ring.
Vince was drafted there
@@fadercreek y'all didn't deserve him
To be real, both those dudes couldn't even hold Vince's jock strap. Gilbert Arenas son is a better player already than he ever was.
Telfair get into basketball commentary brotha
You don’t do 22 yrs and not have a work ethic
Vlad needs to stop interviewing basketball players..dude knows nothing about basketball. Always googling shiet
Any man with cornrows in 2024 you cant help but feel sorry for
Jaylen Brown?
@@tcsutton9121 *Jalen
Michael Besley that's 🥶 🧊 ☃️ 🧥 ❄️ 😓 🥶 🧊 ☃️ 🧥 ❄️ 😓 🥶 🧊 ☃️
He lacked the mentality is all, looks like a guy who just enjoyed playing the game and just so happened to be good at everything 😂
Is this guy Dr Dre’s ex wife ex wife?
Vince that nga. Injuries played a part too ha