Norman Rockwell, Rosie the Riveter
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
- Norman Rockwell, Rosie the Riveter, 1943, oil on canvas, 52 x 40 inches (Crystal Bridges Museum of American Art). A conversation with Dr. Margi Conrads, Chief Curator, Crystal Bridges Museum of American Art, and Dr. Beth Harris, Smarthistory.
This was the video for me to see just after working out, as I scarf down my lunch, and try to brace myself with the toughness I'll need for today's work - I'm a WOW too! 💪😤 "She's on a mission and she's never going to waver." I love that!
Bonus for it being from my favorite museum. ❤
Rosie resonates with me a lot. I grew up an absolute tomboy, but have since gradually embraced my femininity, so I have an overall androgynous set of attitudes and behaviors that make me feel like I'd get along with her really well.
My all-time favorite painting! Thanks for the detailed analysis.
Please do more Norman Rockwell paintings! Great Video
she has an aurora over her head, i'm surprised nobody mentioned it
IKR. It's so obvious. How could they have neglected to say anything about it?
very detailed description! awesome
Wow what a riveting image
Wonderful! This was so informational. Thank you so much!
@ 5:25 The second button from the left is a blue star inside a red rectangle. This blue star is displayed in the front window of a home where a family member is doing military service. If that person dies in the line of duty, the blue star is replaced by a gold star. Hence the phrase "a gold star family."
¡¡Wonder video for a wonder artist!! Thank you very much.
Very interesting. You didn't discuss what looks like a white halo over her head. I was taught to despise Rockwell in art school, but looking back now his accomplishment is rather impressive given the context and constrains he was working in. It's also a wonderful composition.
+EWKification Yes I wish we had discussed that!
+EWKification Of course you were taught to hate him, he was patriotic & an American
+jpalm32 And he was a "dead white male" and a figurative painter.
+jpalm32 That's a pretty generalized and false statement; we learned quite a bit about Rockwell in my Art of the 20th Century course. The disapproval of Rockwell's art usually stems from his level of realism....it did not adhere to one of the unstated goals of modern art, and thus was primarily neglected by critics looking to comment on the state of non-figurative expression. Maybe you missed the fact that Abstract Expressionism was utilized as propaganda during the Cold War; Jackson Pollock was as American as apple pie if it suited politicians who wanted to project a level of freedom of expression supposedly unseen in certain regions of the world. You may think someone exudes patriotism due to an idealized expression of Americana, but it takes all kinds....don't be so limiting.
+Rachel Spencer You might realize that your art education was not the same as mine, especially if you didn't go to a university with a rather radical art department. I do not deny that Norman Rockwell was taken seriously in some university art history courses, such as the one(s) you attended. The question is how he is generally regarded in art historical terms from a more modernist standpoint. Both his figurative style AND his content, which is definitely considered heavy duty Americana, are considered passe in the extreme.
Yes, I'm aware of the use of Abstract Expressionism by the CIA to promote American values and recenter the art world in NY during the 50's. No, Jackson Pollock is NOT considered American in the same way as Rockwell. Rockwell is considered naive, provincial, and even kitsch. Beyond that he's primarily known as an illustrator. Pollock, while being American, is seen as having a universal style. There's an enormous difference there. One can be American, like Warhol, and be embraced by the art world, but one couldn't be sentimentally, nostalgically about America and be taken seriously by the art world as high modernist art.
You miss the point in accusing me of being limiting. I am addressing the shortsightedness of how art history is often taught, not endorsing it. My comment was critical of such pigeonholing, if you cared to read it carefully. When I said he was a "dead white male" and a "figurative painter" I was ridiculing those standards for dismissing at artist. I'm a white male and a figurative artist. You might check out my art blog: artofericwayne.com
However, even in my opinion Rockwell is too sentimental for my tastes, but I can still acknowledge a high level of skill and the vision that went into his work.
#NormanRockwell is underrated and actually great.
Also, it's worth noting the way he fades the American flag back in the background- the tonality of the blue and red are perfectly executed to push them back in visual space. Had they been done with their actual colors, they would conflict with the main figure and what she's wearing.
Her stepping on the book also reminds me of virgin Mary statues I've seen that depict her stepping on a serpent.
It's also like that famous image of Archangel Michael, standing on the Devil...
It looks like she's even wearing nail polish!
I like the classical style in modern artwork.
Sadly, Naomi Parker Fraley (Woman behind the iconic poster) just passed away at 96 (Jan 20th 2017).www.cnn.com/2018/01/23/us/fraley-rosie-the-riveter-dies/index.html
Here are some fascinating facts about the poster...
"In 1942, Pittsburgh artist J. Howard Miller was hired by the Westinghouse Company's War Production Coordinating Committee to create a series of posters for the war effort. One of these posters became the famous "We Can Do It!" image-an image that in later years would also be called "Rosie the Riveter", though it was never given this title during the war. Miller is thought to have based his "We Can Do It!" poster on a United Press International wire service photograph taken of a young female war worker, widely but erroneously reported as being a photo of Michigan war worker Geraldine Hoff (later Doyle.) More recent evidence indicates that the formerly misidentified photo is actually of war worker Naomi Parker (later Fraley) taken at Alameda Naval Air Station in California. The "We Can Do It!" poster was displayed only to Westinghouse employees in the Midwest during a two-week period in February 1943, then it disappeared for nearly four decades. During the war, the name "Rosie" was not associated with the image, and the purpose of the poster was not to recruit women workers but rather as motivational propaganda aimed at workers of both sexes already employed at Westinghouse. It was only later, in the early 1980s, that the Miller poster was rediscovered and became famous, associated with feminism, and often mistakenly called "Rosie the Riveter"
This is ‘#RosieTheRiveter’ by #NormanRockwell, not
‘#WeCanDoIt!’ by #JHowardMiller.
Not a word about the obvious halo floating over her head. Confirmation of her saintly status by taking on the role of savior of the war effort.
She's jacked. You would build some serious muscle lifting those huge tools all day long for a year.
Good example of american propaganda.
Not saying that anything is wrong here.
Such a powerful woman... surely can pay for her own dinner.
Isaiah tramples on My Kampf .
Doesn't feel like art. More like a high end poster.
Néo Bourgeois Christum You're a fucking idiot and embody everything wrong with art critics. If you were in front of me right now I'd punch you into the fucking ground.
B. Jr. One word: "chill"
Very wrong