Ask Andrew - Can women be pastors?
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2 Timothy 4. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables
Exactly what is happening here!!! Scripture is crystal clear on this and yet we still harden our hearts to it. 💔
This is the season we're in....falling away from truth...to appease people....
Amen to that!
Saw this and agree with it Genesis 29:9 “While he was still speaking with them, Rachel came with her father’s sheep, for she was a shepherdess.”
Rachel watched over the sheep to make sure they were watered, fed, and safe. This job was usually for men only! God makes exceptions. He does what He wants.
Mary Magdalene was the first female preacher who gave the good news. Luke 24:9. If women had to be silent in the church then why would a all knowing God have these women preach the good news of His resurrection? God is not confused. People are in a state of religion. We must study to show yourself approved by God. Paul was writing a letter to a Pastor of a church that had a previous problem. The woman at the well also preached. John 4:39 Huldah 2kings 22:21-20 she not in instructed men but men sought her out to hear from the Lord. Again, you cannot put God in a box. He will always do what he wants. As long as the person is submitted to God and does His will, he can use anyone. Esther was a Queen and was used in a co-governing roll along side her husband. Deborah also was a prophetess and Judge and the kingdom did not move to war without her Word. She was led by God. Many woman are led by God. And many are not and God will judge them. Just as many men are led by God and many are not and God will judge them also.
prophet Joel saying, “‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy'” (Acts 2:17-18).
A woman must submit to her own husband. And her husband is the head of her. If the husband is a Pastor and allows her to help him and Shepperd the women. That is not anyones choice, but the husband. Also is safer in some instances for a shepperdess to deciple other women instead of the husband having one on one time with other women. Many legalistic Pastors have fallen like this. I encourage everyone to read their Bible in the Spirit and let God lead. No name calling only GRACE AND TRUTH.
@@brandibee7058 lol I know you want it to be true but that's not so. Rachel was at the well for a reason not because God was trying to tell you that woman could be pastors. She was there to meet Jacob so he could become his wife. Mary magdalene didn't not preach the Gospel she was told to tell the disciples he was risen and guess what? they didn't believe her. The bible is clear cut and dry on this issue. The woman at the well just told them to come see a man whole told her all about here life and the people believed Jesus not off of what she said but because they talk to him themselves.
Why does it say that a Pastor should be the “husband” of one wife. Same with a deacon. It’s very clear.
Exactly
Not really clear actually. The same "qualification" is said of deacons and yet Phoebe was called a deacon. The words have very general meanings in the Greek as to a role. Because of this seeming inconsistency we should study this more rather than just citing one verse.
POLYGAMY. The CULTURE. CONTEXT: Paul speaking to "Timothy".
A woman should not be a speaker in a church meeting. Let people believe the words of our Lord Jesus. Don't try to justify what you want. God is not the author of confusion.
@@josephkirimi5453 God isn't the author of confusion so why keep trying to confuse christians by taking verses out of context and making the bible seem like it contradicts itself. Take your own advice.
1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Corinthians 14:34-36 (KJV)
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
1 Corinthians 14:34
Life For Today Study Bible Notes
Note 22 at 1 Corinthians 14:34: Most commentators believe this is a reference to Genesis 3:16, which states, “Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.”
1 Corinthians 14:35
Life For Today Study Bible Notes
Note 23 at 1 Corinthians 14:35: The command for the women to be under obedience (1 Corinthians 14:34) implies that the object of their obedience is to be their husbands (this verse). It might be better stated by saying, “The women must be submissive to their own husbands.”
1 Corinthians 14:36
Life For Today Study Bible Notes
Note 24 at 1 Corinthians 14:36: It is possible that this passage may be saying the very opposite of what it seems to be saying. For example, Paul had already stated in 1 Corinthians 11:5 that women pray and prophesy in the church, so he was not forbidding women from speaking in the church altogether. Some think that Paul was addressing a particular problem of someone being disruptive by noisy discussions in the church. This may possibly be true, but by looking at the context, you can see that Paul was asking a question. This question could be paraphrased something like this: “Women are not to speak in the church. What? Hey guys, do you think that the Word of God originates only with you? Does it come forth only from you?”
My friends, I believe the Word is crystal clear on the issue of female pastors and even female deacons in church. To say otherwise is to try to please the feminist, left wing mania that is sweeping the world.
There are sooo many verses that are clear about women in the church.
Let us also be gentle with each other concerning all issues. Sometimes I have been right about something, but have been self-righteous and arrogant about it. I must avoid this.
I also want to add that men in leadership never means they're allowed to be toxic or tyrannical. We've seen too many men do this.
May God richly bless you all!
Amen.
Read your Hewbrew Bible, Devil
That's not correct. First of all Paul was a Rabbi and the Eastern/Jewish practise they had what was called responders, there are questions in this case to Paul and Paul would respond to them.
Paul would read out these questions, which in the text sound like statements.
One example is 1 Cor 7:1 you shall not touch a woman - this should read, should we touch a woman?
Well if it's a statement we're sure in trouble as no babies would be born from then on.
that's a question given to Paul and in v 2 Paul answers it saying to marry.
Ok you can look it up for yourself.
then in greek man/husband has only one word 'aner' and for women/wife its 'gyne' so without proper context we don't know who he's talking about.
At times he's addressing all women and at others wives, yet we can clearly see in 2 places it's a couple, as it says go to your husband at home and ask him and then elsewhere, says Adam and Eve, this is the context, yet was it question or statement.
Even Timothy said Paul's teaching was difficult, did Paul read out a question? was he saying it, because of the error at that time. Either way it was not a new law. How is it then we have women teaching both in missionaries and sunday school, that's a gift or call to teach is it not?
To usurp over a man is a stronger word It's akin to manipulating him which happens in marriage, that would be wrong.
I'm still studying this, but i don't believe it's saying a woman can teach.
God called 10 men to lead and they refused, so because cathrin cooman responded God used her as she was prepared to obey. Paul also gives unusual teaching of men covering their heads, which is confusing going by other things, so when we say it's clear, it really is not when other factors are involved.
There were women deacons and helpers in the faith. I was personally taught by a woman and it was the call and gift to teach without a dought. So this needs more study.
you don't interpret scripture correctly, but try to use human reasoning to explain it.
@Andrew Wommack "when did the law ever give any command that a woman couldn't teach?" Here is an example 1 Corinthians 14:34Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience AS ALSO SAITH THE LAW.
Corinthians 14:34-36 (KJV)
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
1 Corinthians 14:34
Life For Today Study Bible Notes
Note 22 at 1 Corinthians 14:34: Most commentators believe this is a reference to Genesis 3:16, which states, “Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.”
1 Corinthians 14:35
Life For Today Study Bible Notes
Note 23 at 1 Corinthians 14:35: The command for the women to be under obedience (1 Corinthians 14:34) implies that the object of their obedience is to be their husbands (this verse). It might be better stated by saying, “The women must be submissive to their own husbands.”
1 Corinthians 14:36
Life For Today Study Bible Notes
Note 24 at 1 Corinthians 14:36: It is possible that this passage may be saying the very opposite of what it seems to be saying. For example, Paul had already stated in 1 Corinthians 11:5 that women pray and prophesy in the church, so he was not forbidding women from speaking in the church altogether. Some think that Paul was addressing a particular problem of someone being disruptive by noisy discussions in the church. This may possibly be true, but by looking at the context, you can see that Paul was asking a question. This question could be paraphrased something like this: “Women are not to speak in the church. What? Hey guys, do you think that the Word of God originates only with you? Does it come forth only from you?”
My question is how many man that goes to church have bible study time with their family. How many teach their kids or even know the bible. If that is the case than most woman will not really know God.
1 Corinthians 14:28
“But if there be no interpreter, LET HIM KEEP SILENCE in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.”
Sincere question - What law states that a woman cannot teach, whether it be in the Torrah or in the commandments? Please advise.
Speaking of your own selves, huh!
If you are too incapable to read and translate it correctly, why not trying to read the Hewbrew version of it?
I think a Jezebel kind of woman is meant here...or please explain to me why Jesus did not rebuke Mary Magdalene abd the woman at the well for preaching about Him. And what about Lydia and the prophetess Deborah etc??
You devils trying to shut up women because it is THEM who love the Lord wholeheartedly and share while you are trying to bind them. That is straught from hell. REPENT!
So next time you are inchurch, cast those evil women out since they are not allowed to praise and worship God nor pray, wear head coverings and not go to work either but bear children (hope you earn enough and of course use no protection) and stuff. If you are so narrow-minded and not use your srupid brain, use Hebrew translation
Women of God, whatever God calls you to do, please be obedient to what that call is.
Just keep in mind God will never call us go do something scripture prohibits as God can't contradict himself.
@@vivaeuropa Where does scriptute prohibit God using women. It was Paul's prerogative not God's. God was already using women in the Old Testamet. Otherwise we would never had had a female Judge and Female Prophets.
But not as Pastors
@@pastordavidgorbet4668 Women of God....WHATEVER God calls you to do.....please be obedient to that call.
the bible is full of contradictions
Let us pray for wisdom to understand GOD words , it's not what we think , it's his way only
He’s not speaking what he thinks, he is rightly dividing the word of truth. He is teaching from the word of God.
@@gjm2669 If you notice, I said Us and We pray for wisdom to understand the words of GOD
@@constancetaylor2114 My comment is still relevant whether you said I, us, or we.
@@gjm2669 ok, no need for this
@@constancetaylor2114 If there is no need for this, why are you still responding to my comment? I was not rude to you but just stating what I believe and responding to YOUR comment to me.
As a woman in seminary college this is appalling. God is CLEAR about this thing. No matter how badly I want to lead a congregation it will never happen because Jesus is my Lord and I follow his instructions!
I could literally be an end-times prophet like Debra BUT NEVER a pastor! He said it and it is “very good” and true.
Well said... May God allow for your praises to be shout the gates of the city for fearing the Lord.. God have mercy on these liars..
Ok but just based on your bad interpretation of those verses.. you can never tell a man what to do or tell him anything or correct one for the rest of your entire life. Lol good luck with that one! 😂😂 Silence woman!
@@DtotheK88
Yeah, so....
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 applause all around for this guy who wins the prize for twisting scripture to mean something so far from the intended meaning that the text is unrecognizable.
Here's your trophy 🏆... take a bow.
Just to clarify..
1 Timothy 2 falls under the heading of “Instructions on Worship.”
This is why studying doctrine is not suggested but commanded by God. Because of guys like this. ☝🏼☝🏼☝🏼
Sarah, may God richly bless you for speaking the truth.
Whoever says the old Testament is irrelevant is void of understanding the new testament is books and letters explaining the old Testament
@Barnes, I agree. The reason that the majority of Christians have a very wrong concept of God is by despising the Old Testament, not teaching from it, never read it in its entirety. I knew God by studying the Old Testament and He emphatically says of Himself, "I am God, I change not!" So when I now read the New Testament, I do not misunderstand God's grace. I take into consideration that God is both an intensely loving God and a consuming fire!!! Both sides of God need to be understood in order not to "create a god in our own image" and call it the God of the Bible for then we deceive ourselves per 2 Timothy 4:3-4
1 Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
Amen
Galatians 3:28
@@davidogejahahamefula7980 There is no male or female when it comes to salvation. there is no jew, greek, black or white. Reguardless Jesus went to the Jew first then the gentile. Jesus has a perfect order. Man is the head of the woman in the body of Christ. Just because there is no male or female when it comes to salvation does not mean the women take on men's roles or men take on female roles.1 Corinthians 11:3. There is no male of female in Christ but Christ still demands a perfect order. Man is the head according to scripture.
Corinthians 14:34-36 (KJV)
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
1 Corinthians 14:34
Life For Today Study Bible Notes
Note 22 at 1 Corinthians 14:34: Most commentators believe this is a reference to Genesis 3:16, which states, “Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.”
1 Corinthians 14:35
Life For Today Study Bible Notes
Note 23 at 1 Corinthians 14:35: The command for the women to be under obedience (1 Corinthians 14:34) implies that the object of their obedience is to be their husbands (this verse). It might be better stated by saying, “The women must be submissive to their own husbands.”
1 Corinthians 14:36
Life For Today Study Bible Notes
Note 24 at 1 Corinthians 14:36: It is possible that this passage may be saying the very opposite of what it seems to be saying. For example, Paul had already stated in 1 Corinthians 11:5 that women pray and prophesy in the church, so he was not forbidding women from speaking in the church altogether. Some think that Paul was addressing a particular problem of someone being disruptive by noisy discussions in the church. This may possibly be true, but by looking at the context, you can see that Paul was asking a question. This question could be paraphrased something like this: “Women are not to speak in the church. What? Hey guys, do you think that the Word of God originates only with you? Does it come forth only from you?”
@@niialaadjei4668 good example of why you should take your doctrine from the Bible and not from study Bible notes
The Bible speaks for itself.
Does it?
Hi do you see the words But I suffer not a woman to teach, found written in 1 Timothy 2:12? 1 Timothy 2:12King James Version12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. Amen.
@@natturner-xo2rbi do you see the words But I suffer not a woman to teach, found written in 1 Timothy 2:12? 1 Timothy 2:12King James Version12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. Amen.
@@natturner-xo2rb 1 Timothy 2:12 shows women are not to teach its not referring to only married women your deceiving yourself.
Yea,of bullshits
Here's a breakdown of Andrew's unbiblical interpretation:
#1) Andrew claims that the 1 Timothy Passage has the definite article "the". But that's actually not what the Greek says, hence why Andrew is reading from some English translation and not from the greek. In truth, there is no definite article "the", so the correct way of reading it is "I do not permit a woman to teach or have authority over man", then Paul continues explaining how this is a universal principle. Also Andrew says the word mean "usurp" authority, but in reality it does not say usurp but exercise in the greek.
#2) Andrew claims the Law doesn't lay this out when if fact it does ( Genesis 2:18; Genesis 3:16; 1 Peter 3:1)
#3) Andrew equates being a prophetess to that of a leadership position, when there's nowhere in Scripture that says this. He uses Deborah, saying she "went out and lead a war" when in fact she only went to encourage Barak to lead the war.
#4) Andrew says that the phrase "husband of one wife" could really be meant for women too, but that is not the case in Greek grammar structure. In this case, the greek more accurately renders this "a one woman kind of man". This is very specific for men, not a general application for humans.
Here again we see Andrew completely revealing how little he knows on some of these types of things and the reason he really shouldn't be viewed at as a serious source of scholarship or authority on interpreting biblical text.
Brilliant summary - articulate and respectfully corrected!
Wrong just checked the greek and it means husband
The Greek word translated to have authority or usurp authority is only used in this one place in scripture and it means to take by force. Paul is not saying women can't have rightly appointed authority
Genesis 3:16 is punishment eve and every woman under original sin received. A woman is not supposed to be ruled by a man or for her desire to be to her husband. Her original position is to be a helper, which is the same work as the holy spirit. When a woman is saved she isn't under that punishment anymore.
The rest that u said aswell is very wrong
@@BEABEREAN10 it is very common for somebody who wants to undermine what the Bible teaches to claim that all Bible translations of a verse are wrong. That is virtually never the case.
1 Corinthians 14:35-36-37
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
No woman should ever ask YOU, that's for sure.
If you are married, I am deeply sorry for your wifefor being married to a man who is supposed to be the head but has none.
Read your Hebrew Bible, silly
"Teach OR usurp authority." Teaching and usurping are two different things, that aren't allowed according to this passage.
@@dodgeman4962.... I don't get jt
@@dodgeman4962 Corrie was evangelizing. She was not a pastor of a church.
What you believe sir, doesn’t matter! Only the truth!
Amen!!
Ah TRUTH. What a slippery and difficult concept. How can you talk truth when looking at religion and matters of faith?
@@lorenelkin9415 I was only stating a fact. Just because someone has an opinion or belief about something doesn’t make it true or untrue. Many people when trying to explain things include, “I believe,“ or “in my opinion.“ If I said I believe that airplanes can’t really fly, would that be true just because of my belief?
@@lowell30dk So let me get this straight. The Bible is full of truths? Again, a slippery concept to pin down. If I said I don't believe Mary conceived as a virgin, what's the truth?
@@lorenelkin9415 what is your truth???
Ok, let me get this straight, the woman can lead a whole church but not her family? So she can lead as long as it's not her family but the church family she can? Andrew, you really missed this one!
That is NOT what he said - listen again.
Yes it is.@@redefinerealitycoach4240
@@redefinerealitycoach4240That is the implication of what he said. Husband is the head of the wife and that order is not subject to change. The op is pointing out how it makes no sense for her to be head of a church but can't be head of her own family
@@The_Word_Is_The_Way If someone is a CEO at a billion dollar company should they then treat their spouse as an employee?
This is a false equivalency. The church and family are setup very different. The role of headship that is given to the men in marriage is not the same things as a pastor. Looks up Ephesians 5:21-22 in the interlinear Bible and you will see what I mean.
@@The_Word_Is_The_Way What if she is single?
Thank you.
So let me get this right! A woman may pastor her husband at church, but the man must be her head at home. Got it!!
XD
It makes absolutely no sense...and is contrary to GOD'S word.
No he means, a woman can not teach her husband at home but she can teach him at the church.
I expounded something in the Bible just today to my husband, a man. Why do men hate a woman to tell them anything about God? Does a woman keep silent if the Lord tells her to expound scripture to a lost man, and just let him remain lost? That does not make sense, especially when God does not reside in a building and we, the body, are the church. Conundrums like these are the reason we delve deeper into scripture and try to find out why Paul was saying what he said, what does it mean, and to whom was it meant for.
@ProveAllThings-tg2ip There are those who believe a woman cannot expound anything to a male. Period. Yes, I speak scripture into my husband’s life when a situation comes up. You can call it teaching, you can call it expounding, or maybe even preaching at that moment. He does the same for me. We are both children of God and joint heirs with Christ. If it is needed I will indeed teach/preach the Word of God to a male if it is needed so he can hear the Good News.
Prophetees and pastors are two different roles
Actually the Prophets words are even more powerful as they are from God directly very often so if she cant teach, she certainly cant be a prophetess.
1 Corinthians 14:35. Read that sir before you say things out of order twisting words isn't a way to the Lord.. Do not add or remove or change the Bible to fit your selfish requirement.
Thank you sir
God bless you and guide you
Amen
Taking that at face value is selfish.
"The older women should teach the younger... (Titus 2:4-6)." He makes no provision for them to teach men, not just her husband. Notice who Paul says they should teach, or disciple - other younger women. He restricts it to women. See also requirements for elders - always directed to men. And why do women want to teach men, anyway? What is so thrilling about that? Being a prophetess does not mean they disciple men. Not sure why Bro. Andrew makes that connection. Notice also that Jesus had no female apostles, and Jesus often bucked the religious system of his day. If anyone wanted to make changes, it would have been him. Can she share the Gospel? You bet. Can she teach her male children? Yes. Scripture is clear on this (see Proverbs). But to disciple a man in spiritual authority is a man's job.
The irony is that "older women" ARE elders in the church. The Greek term is presbytidas from which we get presbyter. If she teaches, she is qualified by her character, wisdom, and knowledge of Christ. In other words, the passage gives qualifications for women elders, yet you claim they are fully excluded.
@@elibennett6168 Yes Paul says elders should be husband of one wife. So he is not thinking of women elders, amen? But you are right, they older women should teach the younger women, not the men.
The logic still won't make sense. So @ home the woman is to be subjected to learn in silence @ home but in the church it is lawful to be her husband's pastor.
The Greek should have been taught here. In Greek the wording is a pugnacious militant task master type instruction not the kind of instruction that promotes healing or growth.
God bless you!
Amen
That’s a cute interpretation.
But a butchering of the Greek and also the context of what Paul hammered as truth to the churches
Lol are you mad that women can become pastors?
@L.A. Bible Thumper sure bud 😂😂
He is a false prophet. Look up the qualification of the bishop. A bishop is to be a man of one woman. How is a woman going to be husband of one wife.
Hammered why isn't it all through his teachings then
@@eddiesblacksmithingkjv9185 bishop is a man made title...the five fold ministry is selected by God.
AMEN
Older women likewise are to be reverent in behavior, not slanderers or slaves to much wine. They are to teach what is good, and so train the young women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled.
Great balanced Truth brother teacher of The Word gift to The Body great to have teachers office we need more they are Graced to break down The Word deliver it with Simplicity and clear bless The Lord JESUS CHRIST
Holy smokes, that's a stretch. Nor can she be the husband of one wife. I say that with love sir.
Well Timothy was a pastor and he wasn’t the husband of one wife either because he was single. So what about that?
@@wiznup Is there proof he wasn't married? And beside that point, plainly if a woman is a husband of one wife, is she in sin? Forgive me, but you're swallowing a camel and straining at a gnat.
@@pcim7151 is there proof that he was!?
@@wiznup It's neither here, nor there weather he was married or not. If you have a problem with following plain and clear scripture, that would be your problem. Taking a verse that's just as plain as it can be, and casting a shadow on it for your own benefit, or agenda is just as wrong as it can be. And rebellious also for that matter.
@@pcim7151 there is plenty of expert theological exegesis available on this subject that makes your interpretation problematic.
what you beleive don't matter.What is the truth?
Deborah JOHNSON 🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿
@@melthomas6519 that is the Old Testament...
33 For God is not a God of confusion but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints,
34 the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says.
35 If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church. - 1 Corinthians 14:33-35
Plain as day right that do you want to argue with the Word of God? The Word of the Holy Spirit speaking through Paul?
Truth is what he said from the word itself
@@gradar420 so wait for your husband to teach you than. Simple as that. I will pour my spirit on all flesh.
@@blessingb7616 huh? I’m a man, but The verse you’re speaking of in Joel was fulfilled in Acts that’s why Peter, quoted it on/after Pentecost.
I'm a very talkative person and by the grace of God, I am spiritually inclined to the word of god... I think it is emotionally and spiritually better for a woman like me to be single missionaries than be involved with a church, much of this argument will cease, if you feel like "silence" is against what you feel like God has gifted you with in terms of the urging within you to teach others, either opt for a woman's only congregation or sell yourself to the Lord and take a decision not to marry and go for fulltime missionary work... both of these are according to the will of God and doesn't contradict the word of God and i have learned through experiencr that it will provide you with no room to feel offended in any way of any men in the church... many women find more solace in women only atmospheres where everyone is equally seen and treated within the boundaries of the bible and aren't emotionally scarred by men out of the will of God, there is very little room for unwanted discrimination and there is much more focus toward God and his individualistic plan for each woman in relation to the kingdom... Paul says it is better for women not to marry and so to focus all she is to the Lord and not anyone else in this world, there is reason for that, she won't have room in her life to worry about her traditional role in worldly terms as a woman, and only room for her role as a disciple of God in the kingdom of Heaven, completely sold out for God's purpose... that's a much more satisfying, self dying way of living, giving no room for bitterness or resentment toward the opposite gender and how they live their lives... if every Christian were single and completely sold out to the Lord, the kingdom would have seen a drastically rapid expansion that's for sure the only downside is procreation though... so in the end, to each to his own, even though staying single is the most effective way you can completely act out your individualistic plan in the kingdom and serving all his people...
Asku J........You can be involved in a church. There are actually churches out there who do support and acknowledge the call and anointing of God on the lives of women. Some of them are lead by men and some of them are lead by women. I have sat in a number of churches who had males as pastors who supported the call of God on the lives of the women in their congregations. The trained, licensed, and ordained these women and treated them simply as ministers just like the sons of God in their congregations. Don't argue with anyone, just gracefully and graciously do what God has called you to do, going where he opens the door for you to do it at.
Don't let another person's belief affect your calling. You can get married and become a missionary together with your husband. There are churches out there that believe in the ministry of women (Titus 2:3-5) (Acts 18:1-3,24-27). There are many judges but few laborers. God will really appreciate if you help in bringing in the harvest of souls (Matthew 9:37-38).
Stop advising women missionaries not to marry. You sound like an extremist sorry
Andrew Womack is of "the strange fire" further outs than the gospel believing Gideon Distribution supporting Pentacostals even though he may come across as a calm demeanored home town Texas born & raised "good ol' boy". By the company these false teachers keep; is what they is. On this of many issues that Andrew is stating; he's coming from the wrong approach (questionable motives). Recently I heard a YT messaage from Sandra Ritcher, titled "Women In Ministry", and I think (yeah we have thoughts); Sandra said (and maybe this can be further researched) that a reason that Paul wrote what he wrote had something pertaining to that the Judiazers were promoting women that were already of heresy into the Galation church that already had issues with homogenization (I'm paraphrasing what she said for lack of my quoting her verbatim). Andrew has heard wise advice so many times from people like Justin Peters and what you seem to be getting at which if I understand you a little right, it's "hey, Andrew, how about obeying closer to the intent of the word rahther than further away from. Andrew responds again and again by saying, "but I'm flying (even though the speed he's going is 32 feet per second per second). Good results don't just happen when the approach is clearly not "being careful how one "builds" on what THE Chief Cornerstone started. What Andrew is advocating again and again gets all "loosey goosey" like how the Galations were about to if they didn't heed what Paul was writing to them. Gets me in the getter that he keeps following the same ol' same ol' wolf track ways like Kenneth Copeland and Gloria Copeland have about the similar approach regarding women speaking. There's still hope for Andrew as long as his heart is still beating, but check out some of the teachings of the students that have been through "Andrew Womack Ministries" and his ways and means are getting worse instead of better. There is an issue; sure women should be an effectual members of the body of Christ. I got my arm twisted into becoming a County Chaplain, and we have situation where I haven't yet seen pat answers so much be effectual when it comes to having church meetings in the women's jails, but I'm not all that much in the know in that environment.
It seemed Sarah had authority over her husband Abraham. Several times the Bible records that she tells Abraham to do something and he does it. When Sarah tells him to send away Ishmael and his mother Hagar, Abraham is troubled by that order. But God tells him to listen to his wife and do it.
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Stay within scripture God is the same today and forever
Being politically correct is one thing and biblically correct is another thing. Somehow, if you preach a wrong gospel, you will have to answer the Lord. Ask the Holy Spirit, not Andrew. You will find the right answers. The Lord is a Lord of order, not chaos.
By the way "politically correctness" simply and only means : behave accordingly to laws and social standards (politeness, traditions) !
And we should listen to a man explain this? And why? Man is the 6, the number of the beast. Why? Because he did not obey God. Women have to preach, teach and spread the gospel because man is not faithful to God.
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@@dodgeman4962 shut up you are stupid
@Black To Grace you are dumb shut up
You need to check a better translation Andrew and read more commentaries. A minister is to be a husband of one wife. A woman can't be a husband of one wife.
So your answer is, in other words husband of one wife means "one mate" and the culture at the time was talking about polygamy, and whatever other story you are feel like using. How you gonna be silent in the church as a pastor? Why cant you just accept what it says? We dont have like it, we dont have to agree, just obey.
You are right a random man doesnt have authority over a random woman who isnt his wife. But mixing lies with the truth is how the sheep get led astray.
Paul's comments about women not speaking in church was addressed to married women only. It is the traditions and doctrines of men who have conflated that one scripture into keeping women from full participation in the church. Harmonized scripture shows absolutely that Christ intended women to teach and support the church - including teaching men. It seems to me that the men who complain most about female teaching are not able to mount successful counters to them because they would rather blame women than lead, which is what they are supposed to be doing. And by forcing a "lesser" role on unmarried women, they have cut the church off from the energy, love and support from many of God's children who happen to be daughters! The church is exactly where it is today because men won't lead properly and they discourage women from full participation - due entirely to their own traditions and doctrines, much like the Pharisees.
that's where people go wrong when they say "I believe". instead of the word says
Yep, that's exactly what happened with Paul, when he said " I believe a woman should not teach."
Well said.
@Ardent Fan riiight. So are you God's keeper That you may tell him who he will or will not use?
It is written I will pour my spirit upon all flesh.
I Have twisted nothing! That is the written word of God! You are denying the very word of God because it does not suit your argument!
I do not deny that Adam was first, and then Eve. I do not argue that women should submit to their own husband. That I know.
But that does not change the fact that in heaven, it will not matter if we are women or men. We will all be praising God. Both man and woman will inherit the kingdom of God.
But there is always those who hate and belittle the creation of God forgetting that Adam also ate the forbidden fruit. And it was because he sinned that mankind was kicked out of the Garden of Eden.
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◄ 1 Timothy 3 ►
King James Bible
Qualifications for Overseers
1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. 2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; 4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; 5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) 6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. 7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
I wonder why we try soo hard to twist the Word of God to fit our own agendas.
Since when did he must be of one wife became she must be of one husband? Woman can be and do anything but not to have AUTHORITY over a man as it was and has been from the beginning of creation. Our families and the world will function better if we get to know our duties
Especially in the house of the day Lord.
Study your Bible correctly.
Prophetess is different from being a preacher. Two different things. Last days people!!! Wake up
Malachi 3:6. "I am the Lord, I do not change". God's word is settled in heaven. Yes, and in the last days, false prophets and false teachers will wax worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.
@@ldebrobander so what did God mean, when he said I will do a "new thing".
@@tiathompson6674 in the context of that scripture verse, tell me what new thing God did?
@@ldebrobander what is stopping God who is limitless from doing any new thing he wants to do without him taking one drop of counsel from beings who see things through a glass darkly. Who knows God better than he knows himself, and who are ANY of us to try to tell THE GREAT I AM, who he can and cannot call.
@@tiathompson6674 because God says in his word, that He is not a man that he should lie nor a son of man that he should repent and change his mind. all scripture is inspired by the Holy Spirit. I'm sure you have read the teachings of the Apostle Paul as far as the authority and structure ordained in the churches Also there is something about women where we are prone to deception. Just go back to the garden of Eden. Even the Bible tells us clearly that Eve was deceived but Adam was not. The problem is women do not want to come under the authority that Christ Himself established in the church. Just like the curse that we received when Adam and Eve fell, it's still in effect and women are still resisting authority, authority that God ordained himself in the body of Christ. When it comes to the body of Christ, every leadership position or positions of authority are specifically listed to be filled by men. It's kind of like the military. Which I was in for almost 12 years. You have officers who are above the enlisted. You have Sergeant who are above privates. There has to be a heirarchy in order to maintain perfect order. function. when women choose to rebell against what is clearly been ordained by Jesus Christ, then a woman is rebelling directly against Christ.
Andrew go to the book of 1Corinthians14:34-35 Then go to 1Timothy2:12 those scriptures will explain a bit more in detail
Teach us better then
This is not scripturally backed up - There is a word that is a hapax legomenon which only appears one time. We didn't use the original koine greek to translate this word because we didn't know what it meant - we used another translation of the Bible.
We have known for a while what the word actually means because we have found texts that speak to how it was used in that Day.
Paul also never used that specific word when referring to Church authority - it's a word that only appears 1 time in the entire Bible.
This is the proof.
juniaproject.com/defusing-1-timothy-212-bomb/
juniaproject.com/translation-1-timothy-212/
www.cbeinternational.org/sites/default/files/First_Davis.pdf
margmowczko.com/isaiah-3_12-women-leaders/ juniaproject.com/defusing-1-timothy-212-authority-authentein/
I will not miss heaven because of aa man limiting my gift which was given by GOD.i will continue preaching Jesus and if a man can't take up his responsibility of leading and florishing in the work of God.i will penetrate through that limitation because what am doing is fufiling my asignment.
Judgements doesn't come as a couple.it comes one on one.that was in the law not in our generation of a new convenant
I believe the law refers to the synagogue law of the time. Paul always spoke about being subject to all authority
A person who has a 2nd wife cant pastor a church and the scriptures is plain if a man desire the office of a Bishop he must be the husband of one wife. Plain.
Why does it take over 5 minutes to say NO!
Because he's not saying No..he's saying if a women is is disrespecting and dominating and not submitting to her husband....She should not be in leadership......A women that respects her husband in home and is in submission in the church to her husband as the lead...in the church..she can minister..But she is not over him....he's still lead in the church.
2 Timothy 2:12
γυναικι δε διδασκειν δε Aγυναικι ουκ επιτρεπω ουδε αυθεντειν ανδρος αλλ ειναι εν ησυχια
The original text does NOT have the article THE, it is simply ANDROS (man, male), where in the world did you see the article there and how did you come to the conclusion that ANDROS = husband ????
And please also point out to any writings of the Church Fathers or Apostolic Fathers who ever interpreted these verses the way you and other shallow theologians from the last 2 centuries interpret.
iddorin He will not respond to you. He is a people pleaser, more properly a woman pleaser. It's called Adam syndrome, meaning that he's more afraid of the wrath of Eve than the wrath of God.
Be a Berean and don't allow anyone to deceive you. Great to see someone who actually STUDIES his Bible. (plus I recommend the Textus Receptus Greek instead of the manmade Westcott-Hort manuscript from the two rationalists who denied the deity of Jesus)
I have checked out the writings of the church fathers and it's pretty interesting that if women keeping silent in the church service was only for the Corinthians or only for the Ephesians or it was only about judging prophecy or if it was really about wives and husbands rather than the public church service, that completely escaped their attention. We are supposed to be impressed that some seminary professor 1800 years later discovers such an interpretation?
If you believe the king James bible .. you must BELIEVE APOSTLE PAUL SAYS A bishop is A MAN .. not A WOMAN .. A MAN must be A husband of One WiFE .. that shows you the the Role of A PASTOR.
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Pastor Travis J Robeertson If Jesus Christ wanted women to preach he would chosen one as a apostles
Because the kjv is what Jesus used 🤣
No one can change the word it settled in heaven
The pastor of our church is a woman and is the longest current standing Pastor in our County. Out of all the churches I have been to she is the most prayerful and open to the moving of the Holy Spirit as any pastor I know. Her husband is the head of her household and she does not usurp authority over him. While people are saying women cannot preach, she has been doing it and has been watching people get saved over the years!!!
People don't say women can't preach, God does. For you to use your "pastor" as an example of what is biblical, or for Andrew Womack to use Marilyn Hickey as an example to prove that something is right, biblically, is heresy. *You don't use an example in life to prove God's Word, you use God's Word to prove an example*. Why not also say that the 2 guys who have been together for 50 years make a good marriage because they've stood the test of time? God says one woman one man: that's the standard. To deviate for any reason is to deny God's word.
@@leighb.8508 God also states not to be unequally yoked but yet tells a prophet to marry a prostitute. Do not limit what God can do, and that right there is limiting how God can use people, God can use anybody he wants however he wants because he is the all knowing all powerful God, and you have to humble yourself and except that as a Christian.
@andrew Ison , if she said that she saw god in his full glory , and still lives , would you believe her? Or would you say what god said :"no one can see me and live".
I know for sure that scripture has more authority than your female pastor.
Im saying this with love my friend. I do not know her , so I have no reason to doubt her intentions, but god is very clear about it.
Many so called catholic "saints" claim to have seen and spoken to Mary , and they became outstanding believers to the eye, doing numerous good deeds, while believing a false gospel : Mary as redeemer.
Scripture says we are not saved because of good deeds, but by believing in jesus christ as redeemer, and not Mary or whatever saint.
Please watch phil johnson's sermon on : scripture vs human experience.
God bless
@@leighb.8508 Amen amen amen Well said. People are using pastor's and life cenarios to prove God's word but The truth remains. There is a way that seemeth right but the end thereof is death. That's what happening right there. God is not mocked and his word was refined 7 times. Let them try twisting it but the truth remains.
The word pastor in the Greek as used by the Apostles is MASCULINE! A pastor is a SHEPARD and a woman should not USERP authority over a man. Quote Apostle Paul unquote,,"Our Church" is not "The Church", plus "our Country" means your church is the litmos for all the churches in the world, please? Lets talk about the real CHURCH,,,,Who is the head???
When I was a little boy and I went to church I remember every church had a King James Bible and Hymn book. Back then there was a FEAR.of God. A real fear, not just a reverence. Nearly everyone went to church somewhere..( I’m not saying everyone was saved or going to a Biblical based church) You get my drift. Most everything was shut down on Sundays. It was the Lords day, and EVERYONE knew it. Churches got together and had fellowship and were like minded. Over my lifetime I have watched the world infiltrate the church and Satan is laughing up his sleeve. This topic was never an issue when I was a little boy. Everyone knew the role of a man and a woman and it was not in question. In today’s society men want to be women, and women want to be men. Very twisted and completely contrary to the word of God. I would have to strongly disagree with his interpretation on this portion of Scripture. Praise God
Thank you. Amen and amen! There's an old saying that says " if it's new it's probably not true " since the Pentecostal church was founded around 1900 we've had these kinds of teachings slowly making their way into the church and breaking the church down. It began with allowing women to Pastor churches. For almost 2,000 years everybody knew that God can use women in miraculous ways just not as the pulpit authority. This passage of scripture is not talking about husband and wives, it's talking about men and women in general. This guy is literally not interpreting the scripture correctly. I came here just to see what a charismatic would say about the subject. I'm not surprised. May God be glorified in the lives of those who trust in Jesus and prayerful read and study his precious word
@@poppyozark it is talking about marriage that is why paul referred to adam and eve. Romans 16:1-2 paul greets phoebe as a fellow worker in christ. God said himself in the last days sons and daudghters will prophecy. Marriage is a different thing and there are roles in marriage.
@@shio_sakaki_the_legend392 1 Timothy 2 is very clearly talking about the public assembly of the saints, not marriage.
@@conceptualclarity Timothy is saying the same thing paul is saying in 1corinthians4:34. Which is about orderly worship in church. If you begin in verse 8, he tells the men on how to worship in church. Then verse 9 he tells the women on how to dress in church. Then verse 11 he repeats what paul said, that women when in church should learn quietly and behave and shouldn't usurp authority over a man (not men). Meaning her husband while she is in church. Thats why he referred to adam and eve. The moment eve took charge over her husband and became leader in the relationship, she got deceived because when you switch roles in a marriage, the devil can easily defeat you. Timothy is telling women that even when in church and worshipping, marriage principles don't stop between a couple. He is not talking about positions of ministering the word of God to a congregation.
@@shio_sakaki_the_legend392 "He is not talking about positions of ministering the word of God to a congregation"
He speaks of women not teaching. This is clearly about the church, not a couple. Yes, the passages outline orderly worship in the church, and part of that is women accepting greater limitations in accordance with Biblical order. The limitations are about the church context, not the marriage context. The reference to remaining quiet is obviously not intended to guide the interaction of the couple at home.
We are so clearly in the last days when the devil can get so called believers asking 'did God really say?' About CLEAR instructions on how to run the church. Even a non believer who understands the english language couldn't miss what Paul meant.
YES!
Given Andrew was once Baptist, hearing him speak so boldly like this is only a testament to the power of God's word in renewing the mind. Thank you Andrew. If God calls me into a pastoral office, I'm answering that call whether people are appalled or not.
I hope you are a pastor now 😃❤️
Why people just won't obey God.
1 Corinthians 14:34-35
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
What about the male pronouns outlined in the qualifications for eldership in 1 Tim 3:1-7, Titus 1:5-9, 1 Peter 5:1-4? Paul is clearly teaching the office of elder/pastor is reserved for men. In addition, no woman authored scripture, no major prophets were women, etc.
They play a role in church but they are to be receivers of instruction and are not to exercise authority over men.
With respect, your exegesis is askew...
Yup.. he is reaching.
Deborah a prophetess and judge
@@brandibee7058that's old testament
Amen!!!!!
Hello this passage is not talking about marriage. But is about worship.don't be confused.
Rev 2:20
Women preachers?
Isaiah 3:12
1Peter 3:4
Ecclesiastes 7:28
Isaiah 9:16-17
1Corinthians 14:32-45
1Timothy 2:12 (Genesis 2/3)
Titus 2:3
Revelations 2:20
Nice shout out to Mrs Hickey. She is a really anointed teacher and pastor.
Is there unanointed teacher and pastors, that would be a contraction.?
God bless you brother
Thank you, I was unsure..
Folks don't listen to this the Bible is clear that what it says about women preachers
josh ford Yes. People have tickling ears they heap up teachers for themselves to hear what they wanna hear. These people hate the truth, not worth to fight with them, they're not born of the Father. John 17:17. Blessings
Why are there a woman mayor, a female manager, a female judge, female doctor, scientist? The bible also forbids women in male positions of jobs as they are called to serve their husband, breed as many children and remain in the kitchen.
@@patricksaxon3983 ... What verse did you pull that bunch of drivel from... The book of MakeUpMyOwnVerse 1:1... You obviously know nothing of scripture or God if that's what you believe...
@I Am who I AM The bible calls women to be housewives, serve thei husbands, breed many children, but not be doing a man's job.
@@theburninator5547 When a woman has chosen the high calling of being a wife, her submission to her husband is “as to the Lord” ( Ephesians 5:22 ). When she chooses the high calling of motherhood, “Sons are a heritage from the Lord, children a reward from him” ( Psalm 127:3 ); this, too, is itself an offering to the Lord.
You can definitely tell who the religious are by reading these posts.
Why do many people commenting on here think that if a woman teaches anyone that she is suddenly exercising authority over them? This is not the same thing as the office of the Pastor. When a man teaches another man, does it give him authority over that man? Of course not. It is the same when a woman teaches a man (or another woman) and nowhere in the scripture does it say she cannot teach a man. Teaching has nothing to do with having authority over another human being. It is a gift of the Holy Spirit and is meant to equip, to edify and to impart. We need to drop that authoritarian definition of teaching. It is messing up our theology and causing division in the church. In Acts 18, Priscilla and Aquila taught Apollos, a man. Priscilla was a woman and Paul had no issues with her teaching a man so why do we continue to condemn women teachers in the body of Christ? And 1 Timothy 2:11-12 is dealing with a specific situation that Timothy was dealing with at the church in Ephesus. It was not meant to be a directive for all women for all time. How do I know that? Because we know from other scriptures that Phillip had several unmarried daughters that prophesied (this is not a quiet activity). We also know that other women prayed and prophesied when men were present based on 1 Cor 11:5. We also know that women received the baptism of the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost right along with the men. What was the purpose of this baptism? To be imbued with power to be Jesus' witnesses in the earth. Therefore, we know that there are multiple examples of women not only being present in the public gatherings but they were exercising their gifts of ministry too. Why are we so threatened by women using their gifts? We seem to forget that the early church was going through a great time of transition. Think about how hard it is for any of us to accept change. Imagine what it was like for them in a culture where women were purposefully kept ignorant and yet Jesus allowed them to sit at His feet and learn.
I’ve learned so much from Joyce Meyer. I’ve become closer to the Lord because of all her teachings. So maybe it’s wrong for her lead but maybe God still uses her to reach people? He can use anything to reach people
They worship Me in vain; they teach as doctrine the precepts of men.’ You have disregarded the commandment of God to keep the tradition of men.” He went on to say, “You neatly set aside the command of God to maintain your own tradition.
Mark 7:7-9 BSB
God bless you brother.
I don't like when we read the Bible and say "I believe this is saying" no! What does it say! We are always trying to decode a gray area... What does it say. "I believe what this is saying" sounds like a theory....
So explain 1 Corinthians 33-35. " Let your women keep silent silence in church"
Also saith the LAW"
"As in all churches of the saints".
The Law DOESN'T say that. Simplest response.
You know what it’s saying! Your just trying to keep the peace
You need revelation from the holy spirit
Do you think that people that have been divorced more than once can be saved and do good for Christ?
Absolutely, Connie! God loves all of His children passionately no matter what mistakes they have made. Sin is no longer a barrier between us and the Lord and He will use anyone with a willing heart. If you'd like to hear more on this topic, we encourage you to build up your spirit with Andrew's "Righteousness Series," for free here: www.awmi.net/audio/audio-teachings/#/awm_e01_righteousness.mp3. If you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to let us know. We want to be a blessing to you!
Of course they can be saved!! Only Jesus can save not our works
Thank you, Sir, God bless you for the clarification. I have gone back to read the text to understand it better.
The Bible doesn't say woman can't be prophetess. It doesn't say they can't lay hands on the sick, evangelize, cast out demons. It says they can't teach the church.
Brother Andrew please explain 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 to us.
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wow! what a lightening rod...
hello beautiful lady with a beautiful smile i wish you the best wishes you wish your self, i hope you are having a nice day, you are gorgeous, oh my god you are beautiful,how are you doing
thank u
The answer is easy. NO.
Prophetess and a Women preaching are totally different!!! GOD can’t lie!!!
Why does god think slavery is acceptable.
This is Truth...and yes GOD will never lie...but people do!!!!
@@borisbash Ask God not me
@@trollolololololol2361 why can't you say that owning a person is repugnant? What is wrong with you? Don't you have any morals?
You're good and a peace maker
Did i hear you mentioned the term divorced? at the around the 3min and 52 to 57 second and if am right what where you meaning in relation to the theme
Hi, Gama! Thank you for your question. We encourage you to read Andrew's free notes from his Online Bible Commentary on 1 Timothy 3:2 in regards to a person who has been divorced being in ministry. You can read the notes on his website at l.awmi.net/2JaCQ6H . We pray this helps answer your question. Please don't hesitate to reach out to us with any prayer requests you may have. God bless! - AWMI Team
If a woman can give birth to a savior, why cant a woman preach about a savior?
Exactly.
Mejor Toler, Paul is talking before the Bible was written and placed into the hands of women. At the time Paul was only teaching the men and the women needed to remain silent. Once the Bible was in the hands of every man, woman and child, then God has ordered for All to prophesy, preach and bare witness of His coming.
Mejor Toler, This was before the Word of God was written and people were taught to read and write. Once The Word of God was put into a form where people could carry it with them, like a soldier takes the New Testament into war with her or him today where it was not possible at the time. Men have been saved at the Preaching of the Word by Women. Remember, that Jesus comes back for His Bride and that is female in context, just as He told the story of the 5 females who had their lampstands ready. It was not men who had their lampstands ready, but females that He describes. It's sad that women will outnumber men in heaven, because men are so worried about being evil before being pure.
Mejor Toler, You just want to make war with women. You have a hatred of women.
This is true, but not all men follow God, and lead their families. Women must stand in the gap when men fail. Besides, there will be no sexes in heaven. None. Not one.
Another man who should teach the Word.
The Lord Jesus Christ himself commanded the Apostle Paul to said preached unto us within 1 Corinthians 14:34
King James Version
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. Amen. See that women are to be kept silence in the churches that means women cannot teach the word of Jesus Christ inside Christian believing churches Amen.
Paul's prohibiting of women teaching men is found in his instructions for the church. Not going back to Adam and Eve. And his other instruction is that an Elder, which is teacher, is to be the husband of one wife. That negates a woman being a teacher.
You can't comare women prophets as being the same as teachers. Paul clearly makes a distinction between the two.
Ephesians 4:11-16
And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
It's amazing how there is such a never ending amount of these apostate teachers tickling the ears of those that need justification for rejecting certain Scriptures. The more ears that are tickled, the more money that comes into their pockets.
It says a woman should keep silent in the church
Read 1 Timothy 2:13-14 For Adam was created first, and then Eve. 14 And it was not Adam who was deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and broke God's law.
That's exactly what it is Mr..your response and not what is revealed as the truth.
"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
(Letting it run i continuity, for all ages/time)
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a SHAME for WOMEN to SPEAK in the church.
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1 Corinthians 14:34-35
"Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication..."
Revelation 2:20
"This is a true saying, if a MAN desire the office of a bishop, HE desireth a good work.
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the HUSBAND of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to TEACH..."
1 timothy 3:1-2
These 3 scriptures is the answer to this...
Read the KJV and realize the Truth!
It is hard for me to use the liberating words of the bible to oppress people from Godly leadership, wisdom and authority. Reading the New Testament Jesus spoke out against people who were using the Law of Moses to shackle people just as Jesus rebuked sin. I have to ask my self by using scripture to quiet the voices and to oppress the spirits of God seeking hearts in our churches are we making the same mistakes as the leaders of the Law in the time of Jesus? Are we missing the message that was right there all along to rather preach a controlling legalistic message that can make sense if we simply read the words on the page?
Also I do not want to put words in your mouth but the comment at the end, do you stand in the belief that the KJV is the interpretation that we should hold above all others? (english speaking of course, I know we'd both would advocate for original greek and hebrew :) ) If you do I'd love to hear your reasoning (no sarcasm) I'm very interested and appreciative of hearing and understanding where people come from and how they got there! I love discussing thoughts and theology with others even if it is on the internet where we see more vile thoughts and opinions then we do genuine curiosity and conversation. Thank you for sharing your voice
You absolutely don't know what you are talking about.
1 Corinthians 14:29-32
“Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said. 30And if a revelation comes to someone who is sitting down, the first speaker should stop. 31For you can all prophesy in turn so that everyone may be instructed and encouraged. 32The spirits of prophets are subject to the control of prophets.”
2 Things here:
“Two or three prophets should speak” - 1 Cor 14:29
“And if a revelation comes to someone who is sitting down, the first speaker should stop - σιγάτω (sigatō) - .” - 1 Cor 14:30
The word here also is the same as the others - σιγάτω (sigatō).
Today’s Application
The point here is also, there are very strict instructions for Prophets to dicern what other Prophets are saying - I’ve not seen very many “Prophets” interpreting one another. But the bigger point here is that if Prophets and those speaking in tongues have this type of restriction - how much more of a restriction to everyday men have? No one is to be disruptive.
Women
1 Corinthians 14:34
34Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak - σιγάτω (sigatō) -, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak - σιγάτω (sigatō) - in the church.
Today’s Application
Now, when looking at each of these cases before, people speak in tongues all the time and over each other, if someone is an actual prophet, I’ve not seen other prophets to interpret that word right there - and the number limitations for each of these are strict. Are these followed? No, and we all know they aren’t. Even within this particular verse - are women actually forbidden from speaking in Churches? Wouldn’t it be disgraceful for us to allow that any where? But how many churches do you know that actually don’t allow women to speak at all as this verse says?
So here we get to the meat of this particular issue, and I am going to bring several, Biblical and grammatical points to this verse.
The assumptions that people gather, from this:
This is referring to all women
Women are to never ever speak in Church
And that is disgraceful for a women to speak at all in church.
Let’s look at the greek for this:
It doesn’t actually ready “women” It reads, The women. The definitive article might seem contrite, but it’s really not when we are looking at the true meanings of a sentence and its structure. This is important because we have to look at the next part of this. “They should ask their own husbands; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the Church.” Why would there need to be a distinction between The women and also their own? That is a bit odd, if this is blanked statement about all women and them not speaking in Church.
It is clear that these particular women are asking questions to people OTHER than their own husbands, that this is about women speaking out of turn and being disruptive and asking any one anything. You may think this is a stretch, but if a woman doesn’t have a husband, then why would Paul need to make this particular distinction, not just to ask their husbands, but to ask their own husbands.
The word for woman in greek is γυναῖκες gynaikes - This is also used for wife when it’s speaking in relation to giving husbands an instruction. (Colossians 3:18, Ephesians 5:22, 1 Peter 3:1). So this is clearly talking about the wives, whom Paul had gotten report about, that were spouting off and asking other peoples husbands, and not paying attention in Church.
The further reasoning for this goes to the next point which is contradictory to the command for silence - σιγάτω (sigatō).
Women are never to speak in Church
Paul didn’t just say that, but He said that it was disgraceful! Well - when looking at the instructions for wearing veils - Paul not only says that it’s ok for women to speak, but he would be including them in 1 Corinthians 14:29-32 of being able to stand with the men and prophecy.
1 Corinthians 11:2 - 5
2I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the traditions just as I passed them on to you. 3But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, a and the head of Christ is God. 4Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 5But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head-it is the same as having her head shaved.
Now here is something so interesting - Paul is giving women instructions for wearing a head covering - while praying and prophesying!
Women speaking in the Church and Paul Approves
Is he then giving these women also the instruction to not speak and that it’s disgraceful for a woman to speak in Church? It can’t be. Because he is directly addressing their authority to be able to pray and prophesy in the Church. So thus this first instruction is to be looked at not in terms of ALL women - but a particular set of them, who were being rowdy, and asking men other than their husbands questions.
Going back to 1 Corinthians 14:29-32 and 1 Corinthians 14:27 - these are instructions not just for men, but ALSO for women. Thus everyone was under the exact same rules for being silent in Church if you weren’t speaking in tongues with and interpreter, prophesying, or doing another approved practice.
But again, isn’t it odd, that Paul would have to tell men to NOT cover their heads? This is because of the practices of the day when they would sacrifice to their pagan gods - that men would also cover their heads.
Further more - when we look at the rest of the discussion about women wearing veils - the discussion of long hair comes up.
1 Corinthians 11:14
14Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him,
Here we have another rule for men that we don’t strictly enforce today with men having long hair.
But regardless, there are very few churches that make women wear a veil in church, I do not know of one personally.
So Now let’s head on over to the big boy 1 Timothy 2:12 - “I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.”
When looking at this all of the above is needed for the proper context into what this means, and the getting used to the idea of deeply looking at what the greek means, what Paul means, and the role of women in the Church.
I rarely hear, if ever, someone dig very deeply into this with the furor that is used for other issues, and this is why I totally understand your take on things.
So we have established in 1 Corinthians several things:
Paul seemingly said that women are to remain silent and that it’s disgraceful for them to speak
The use of the same greek word for silence used in relationships to Prophets and those speaking in tongues
The conclusions after digging into these are such:
The context of all of this is pertaining to having order in the Church and making it so that outsiders could come in and get saved
Paul clearly affirms women who pray and prophecy - as he speaks of the proper head coverings for them in relation to praying and prophesying
Thus Paul is couldn’t be referring to all women when he was speaking of instructions for them - as there would be a clear contradiction here
The rules were for men and women who were not in any authorized way participating in the learning and sharing of Christ and His Teachings (They weren’t teaching from the NT because it hadn’t been written yet)
Everyone was required to keep silent in Church
@@user-wn8mc1yc1g love your comment. I agree with it.
connor fowkes Hi, I understand where you are coming from. Jesus did just as you say, and I wonder if we are making the same mistake, as you mentioned.
J very interesting, thank you. I was looking around to see if it is ok to not only share scripture, but share meaning...thank you for sharing this.
hey mr. what state are you in
I hope everyone here realizes that just because something is written in the Bible, that doesn’t mean it applies to you or the church. People really need to look up the word context because there’s a lot of confusion here.
"Jehovah Himself gives the saying: The women telling the good news are a large army." Psalms 68: 11. Speaking about Scripture in the general community is a gift from God. Aren't we thankful that Jehovah is Just, and we are not under the control of the Taliban. It is those who haven't heard these things that need to hear these things the most. Preaching to the choir is a waste of time.
It's quite a large army but they talk. They don't speak in church meetings, they obey the word of God.
Thank you Andrew for your teaching. God spoke to me about this topic. I am very happy to hear about woman working as a pastor or one of the five ministries of Christ. Holly Spirit is actually preparing me to work full time for him on His time, as an Evangelist. Praise God!! Thank you! Love Erika.!!
Praise the lord sister in Christ, be strong and put on the full armor of God. You will run into many things while in Ministry but stand on the words of our father God who watches over us in heaven.
Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew Nor Greek, there is neither bind nor free, there is neither MALE NOR FEMALE: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Be blessed!
@@hannahmarie9295 yes we are all one in Christ. But we have different roles in the church and in the household. Why are we going against God's word? It's clearly written why God does not want women to have authority over men. "FOR Adam was formed first then eve and eve was the first to be deceived." Let's choose God over man's word.
@@mikebkaease4547 With all do respect, I disagree with what you are saying. It's not a matter of who was deceived first but the fact that man as a whole was deceived by the serpent.
Now if you look in 1 Corinthians 14 you will find letters sent to Paul from the church regarding their concerns. Paul is reciting the letter then replying.
1Co 14:34
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1Co 14:35
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
This is what the church wrote to Paul, most people stop here but, if you continue you will find his response.
1Co 14:36
What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
1Co 14:37
If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
1Co 14:38
But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
1Co 14:39
Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.
1Co 14:40
Let all things be done decently and in order.
@@hannahmarie9295 stop lying to yourself. It specifically said the reason and it said eve, the woman, not the man.
Mikebkaease YOU sound really dumb!
Did I get this right? A woman can be a pastor over a church and have authority except for the one sitting at her feet that is her husband.
It doesn't say "the man" in verse 12. It uses the Greek word "andros" which means "a man" or "man", if there's no Greek word "tou" (the) prior to man. See 1 Corinthians 11:12 for example. Furthermore, 1 Timothy explains the reason for the letter in 1 Timothy 3:14-16 which is for how people will know to conduct themselves in the household of God (not in a marriage). Let's not miss that.
"Husband of one wife" isn't referring to mankind because there's contrast to wife. The word for man in the Greek never means mankind when there's contrast to wife/woman. Also, it's not just a play on words because 1 Timothy 5:9-10 uses the same Greek construct but reversed "wife of one husband" when talking about female widows. It's a gender specific designation for man.
Lastly, the marriage relationship of Adam and Eve is not the reference here. It's about the order of creation and Eve being deceived, which is a reference to all men and women, not just husbands and wives.
I recommend that everyone who has watched this video to please go re-read the scriptures and study it more in depth.
Read it all Andrew. Don't tickle peoples ears. Many times in scripture women were told to keep silent in church. Older women were called to teach the younger women, that's it.
You are totally right! Joel 2:28-29 fulfill in Acts 2: so many more scriptures , example, Galatians 3:28 - There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Joel 2:28” And it shall come to pass afterward,
that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh;
and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
your old men shall dream dreams,
your young men shall see visions:
29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids
in those days will I pour out my spirit.
Acts 2:17 - And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
Acts Ch 2:17 , was the Fulfillment of Joel 2: 28-29. Philippians 4:3 - And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and [with] other my fellowlabourers, whose names [are] in the book of life.
Acts 18:26 - And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto [them], and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.
Clearly we see Women in the New Testament engaged in significant ministry, performing valuable service in sometimes-difficult situations. This is readily seen in the Acts of the Apostles. Both Priscilla and Aquila spoke privately to Apollos at Ephesus (Acts 18:24-26. Further, women clearly played a significant role in the work of the Apostle Paul. In his letter to the Romans, Paul identified sixteen significant helpers in ministry (16:1-16), and at least ten of them were women. Who knows what the health of the church at Philippi would have been were it not for Lydia (Acts 16:13-15), apparently a benefactor to the church, and others such as Euodia and Syntyche (Phil. 4:2-3)? And of course, women made a significant contribution to Jesus' ministry. Luke showed appreciation of their financial support and company with Him (Luke 8:1-3).
Thanks for sharing, Sheila! God wants women in ministry. We believe when man and woman are in unity, that great accomplishments for the kingdom can be done! Be blessed! - AWMI Team
When someone's trying to justify something that's wrong, its impossible to be concise
✝️1 Corinthians 14:33-35
33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
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James 3:1
Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness. There is no ambiguity in this issue. Stop using people's experiences or your personal opinion to explain the scriptures.
you better sign up to TEACH Sunday school/ children’s church and stop leaving it to the women. be a doer of the word my friend.