The Phantom Time Hypothesis! The Middle Ages Didn't Exist!
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2024
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After the big conspiracy about Rome not existing, today we have another one, the middle ages didn't exist! Hold onto your hats noble ones!
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New rule, if this is a discussion that actually has to be made, then once a human reaches 29 years old they can no longer age for 30 years, then they are 50 the next year.
edit: I meant 60.
consensus is not an argument, science is a system of absolute hierarchy and not of democracy. a consensus is just a glimps ona situation but by no means any final word on anything in science. if so, we could hardly make any scientific discoveries bc discoveries would be againt consensus.
The Metatron truly has spread his wings. The people and organisations you are collaborating with truly have a difference on peoples lives, so be proud Raff!
btw tries are VERY bad carbon stores, actualy trees store barely any carbon if any, except in hyperboreal regions with permafrost. why? bc when they die they decay or the forrest burns down periodically ( some tree seeds even relie on wildfires to sprout etc, and trees liky eucalyptos purposefully concentrate easily flamable oils within their bark and tissues) in reality most carbon diaxide is absorbed by Algue, phyto plancton in the seas, then on land the biggest aborber are GRASSLANDS where fast growing grass accumulates every season and builts up a big sediment of not completely decayed grass under it that is taken out of the carbon Cycle. next come Swamps, where the water closes of the plant matter from oxygon and thus prohibits complete decay and reentry of co2 into the cycle, last are hyperborean forrests.
that is basic ecology one learn in 3rd semester Biology, planting trees in dry regions, or the rainforrest or even central europe, does not help binding much co2 if any, and in cas eof the rainforrest may even add co2 overall , bc plant matter decays extremely fast in those envirements
to justifie this plump and frankly idiotic actionism with "muh science" is an insult to the idea of science. planting a tree is pure feelgoodery and helps nothing. if you want to absorbe as much co2 as possible from atmosphere go and dump some containerships worth of fertilizer into the ocean, so it causes an algue bloom, which then does all at once causing Oxygen deficit bc of its mass and sinks all together to the bottom of the seamwhere it joins the sediment.
Its not about if the Clima Change exist or not , its about if its Human made or not .
And the clima science is more the shame of science !
What is science , a work in progress , or a total authority ?
I think these people mostly fall into three categories Trolls out to get attention, confidence tricksters out to get money, or the mentally delusional. I'll allow a tiny number of alternate thinkers too, but they're very rare indeed.
Aren't alternate thinkers not mentally delusional as well?
Very well said sir knight! Always great to have you in the comment section, Jason, always an honour!
@@Soapy-chan_old Absolutely not. Most of the greatest thinkers in history were "alternative thinkers". The problem is most people slapped with that label today are not arguing on facts just made up fantasies.
I love being open minded, and I don't like dismissing theories just because they're "incredible", but as Carl Sagan put it "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". In this case, the evidence is extremely lacking.
In my own humble opinion, I find this indicative of a weakness within the academic system.
It's very appealing for academics to "stand out" and "make a name" for themselves. And this is very hard to do if all you do is repeat findings that your predecessors have discovered before you.
Therefore, a few academics will tread a dark path of trying to be controversial for the sake of controversy, in order to get "noticed".
Academic history is rife with these people. And sadly, not all of them ended up being discredited for it.
"The Middle ages didn't exist" the lunacy in that statement can drive even the most sane men mad.
I know we have castles in the UK with written history as well as legal documentation lineage and books detailing what was bought and how much it was yet its all a myth
"Well of course the middle ages didnt exist. Did you ever met someone from then?"
@@soythelubu5389 😂
@@soythelubu5389 yes my dad, Lol!
The earth is flat.
The funniest thing about this theory is the idea that the Holy Roman Emperor, the Eastern Roman Emperor and the Pope could agree on anything let alone some wacky conspiracy to create some Phantom Time.
they did it to move the year of founding of islam to the year 666
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@@Jiub_SN ua-cam.com/video/0nL0pu1kx7Q/v-deo.html
@@JL-tm3rcIslam was founded in 610 CE.
@@argkitsune Emigration became the only hope for Muhammad and his followers' survival. In 622, they headed to Medina, another oasis town, where they were promised freedom to practice their religion. The move from Mecca to Medina is known as the hijra-the flight-and marks year 1 of the Islamic, or hijri, calendar.
we arrive at 666 because there is a 44 year adjustment to be made due to some erroneous conversionin the past as explained in the video of "the forgotten planet" i previously posted.
this is the reason for the parallels of atilla and alaric where all events in their life are exactly 44 years apart because they are the same person and two writer using two different calendar reference.
watch the video i cannot explain it in detail here. , the islam part is explained in the latter part of the video
The only thing that I find fascinating about these theories is how eurocentric their understanding of history is. Like, do I have to believe almost 300 years never happened... only for EUROPE? For these conspiracy-theorists, civilization began with the Romans and maaaaayyybe classical Greece. Everything else was chaos and void, and turtles moving a plate full of oceans and land.
Well the Americas, Australia, etc were pretty undisturbed by European influences during that time, they could have developed independent of Europeans distorting history. So they "only" forgot about Asia and Africa^^
Because English speaking commity is primarily Eurocentric, if you shift the language away from any europe or us based language and you will see a different picture of how people see history and all their crazy theories about it.
Most of them are americans who are poorly teached about worldwide history, think that something 200 years old is very old (the wall in front of my house has 800 years, way older than the entire history of their country) and they can't tell you the difference between the Renaissance and ancient Babylon.
I strongly disagree! It was Elephants moving a plate full of oceans and land! ;)
@@--Sama- they wouldn't even know what Babylon is let alone tell the difference, lol.
You didn't butcher that german - you made it actually really good! I am impressed!
And yes - Illig is quite "notorious" amongst german-speaking history nerds for his bullshit.
Same category as Erich von Däniken.
@@p.s.shnabel3409 Yeah - he'd wish. Erich von Däniken is very widely known, while Illig is more known by people who are very much into history. He was even invited to an discussion in my hometown about his "hypothesis" for a giggle. Not the same with Däniken.
He has more in common with that "Slav Denier"-Group, who say Slavs never existed, and their language is byzantine forced onto a gothic population. Although the latter are basically Nazis, while Illig and Däniken are not.
That must be restricted to the nerds, then, because I live in Germany and went to school in the 90‘s and never heard of this bullshit, ….
@@lynnm6413 Because they do not teach it in School, but if you read here and there for your own about History, you will encounter this Theory, gladly mentioned as BS normally.
@@lynnm6413 It is known among history buffs and people who had some profession in the historical field. I worked for 2 years in a museum and get to know some who knew Illigs theories and was confronted once with someone who actually embraced it. They all were history buffs and not so much "normally interested".
At 35 years old, I'm living the middle ages as we speak; it is fascinating, if not brutal!
The Modern Era is actually still hundreds of years away. We'll know when we get there.
Haha that's funny.
Bahahahaha. I hear ya!
@@johnsmithe4656 What does "modern" mean?
This reminds me in a turnabout way of the first chapter in a novel in Victorian England. A few people believe the house they live in is haunted. A special investigator takes the job of stopping the haunting. Through research they discover that there was a church on the land the house stands and the catacombs still exist. They also discover that there was a loving couple that was supposed to be buried together. He died elsewhere and was buried there. So they spin a tale of the woman haunting the house because she was not reunited in the grave. The bodies from the catacomb get taken out and buried in a regular cemetery and the wife's body gets buried beside her husband.
Of course the people imagined the haunting. A new house with its own noises, a different place, also with different noises and the strange surroundings. But now they can believe it has been taken care of and they can sleep well again.
The important part is a question from a new acquittance of the employer, what would she had done if there had been no forgotten grave and a loving couple? The answer:
"We would have found something else. This is England, something awful has happened everywhere."
And that goes for a lot of central Europe. So much stuff has happened (not all awful) everywhere that it would be difficult to hide a year. Three centuries? Impossible.
my dog, bitch to puppy is 600 years older than Christ
Exept it was real, do you really think normal people just immagine things for absolutely no reason? It makes no sense
@@adolfhipsteryolocaust3443 Yes, people do sometimes imagine things for absolutely no reason.
Though often they they lie or spout nonsense for reasons of their own.
@@Dreamfox-df6bg actually that doesn't happened very often, people are really not THAT stupid, expetially that many people (99.99% of all people that ever existed believied in ghosts, that's preatty specfic thing to immagine)
@@adolfhipsteryolocaust3443 At least twice in my lifetime many thought the world was going to end. Some people remember events wrong they lived through themselves just 20 or 30 years later and don't get me started on the many conspiracy theories.
People believe what they want to believe.
That includes myself. Despite all the evidence to the contrary I still believe a better world is possible.
An actual conversation with an American I (Polish) had:
- I can't wait to visit Europe! I've never been anywhere outside of the US!
- Oh man, there is so much to see for you then! You've must've never seen a real castle!
- ... Wait. So castles... really exist?
- Um. Yes.
- I mean I know they used to exist but like... in the past. But now?!
I don't even want to know what schools over there look like.
That's what one gets when their els, gees, bees and tees are more important than their ABCs :q
In some US places the schools look like penitentiaries, from the point-of-view of their human inhabitants.
This actually doesn't surprise me at all, a lot of Americans can't even name the continents on earth and don't even know on which one they live.
I suppose this theory works if we are living in a simulated reality... I was playing Crusader Kings 2 and in the year 825 AD I converted my save game to Europa Universalis 4 which started in 1444. By the time I convert this play through all the way to Hearts of Iron, those poor earthlings will have no idea that 619 years of history never actually happened! Jokes on them lol
CK2? Personally, I still played that game.
did you pass by victoria II to go to HOI ? (i supposed you used HOI IV ) , if so , i think victoria II start during 1836 to 1936 , starting date of Heart of Iron IV BUT Europa Universalis finish in 1821 , implying that they are a gap between Europa Universalis IV To Victoria II (1821-1836 )
@@Eldiran1
Speaking of Victoria 2, I’m planning to buy that game in the future but the complete edition.
@@Eldiran1 haha I’m still in EU4 but was going to convert to Vicki 2 then HOI 4... maybe I will skip Victoria. I suppose if I do that, the TikTokers in Stellaris will argue that WW2 was actually WW1 🤪
@@drathicusrex7244 In reality, I would gladly argue that WW1 was in fact WW4. Napoleonic Wars being WW3, for example.
I would just like to point out that it wasn't until Tsar Peter I that Russia became open to accepting any ideas or cultural concepts from other parts of Europe. I wouldn't expect Tsar Peter to care about carrying on an ancient deception by the Holy Roman emperor, the Byzantine emperor, and the Pope, so if this ever existed, wouldn't there be historical references in Russian literature to western Europeans making up an entire 3 centuries? And if such references existed, even horribly flawed ones, do you not think the Soviets would've leapt on this for their propaganda? It doesn't get much better than being able to say "Look, our enemies are so pathetic, they had to make up an entire time period just to make themselves look better." And yet, none of this is the case. Not a single thing I hypothesized actually happened. The Soviets had some hilariously stupid and lazy propaganda, so they would've pushed such a narrative even if it came from the mouth of a drunk homeless guy talking to a dog, and yet they didn't, which means they couldn't find so much as a single scrap of evidence referring to such a theory
there's Soviet mathematician Anatoly Fomenko who says at least 1000 years of history were lost and all historical dates before 16th c. are a fabrication of one man Joseph Scaliger. obviously this goes way overboard, straight from the rulebook of soviet disinformation. I'm partial to Illig's hypothesis though, but how could someone have managed to pull it off, that I don't know. for one the phantom period perfectly coincides with the Tang dynasty of China. if you ever happen to watch a historical Chinese drama, you're 100% guaranteed it's about the golden age of Tang, the time of progress and inventions, yet the archeologists somehow have nothing to show for it
The same argument can be used for the moon landing. The soviets would have torn a fake moon landing to shreds. Who but they would have observed very closely whether Americans had landed on the moon or not?
@@kledynk6591 I'm not sure if I understood correctly. Did you just write that there is no archaeological evidence from Tang dynasty era? 😀
@@Palarci yup
@@kledynk6591 now that is...bold.
5:59 - As a German: well done :D
Usually people either butcher our language by making it sound English, or they butcher it by needlessly screaming because they think German has to be aggressive 🙈
Agreed, especially the pronunciation of Z is not easy for English native speakers. But @Metatron is not an English speaking native, therefore I am not really surprised that he pronounced it correctly. Even if it took him 30 minutes, as he said 😅
Next conspiracy theory: The Metatron hates pasta. A while ago, he said he would make a video about making pasta. He hasn't, so clearly this is evidence that he never makes pasta and can't bring himself to make a dish he hates, even for the views.
Now, he'll have to make pasta from scratch to convince me. Do a deep dive into semolina flour and its vital impact on the quality of pasta.
Would watch 10/10
@@p.s.shnabel3409
Metatron collab with Alex (French Cooking Guy) to craft a historically accurate pasta?
@@NothingXemnas and then season the pasta with garum.
@@NothingXemnas don't forget The Pasta Queen ft. Lionsfield
@@NothingXemnas this is what we need
knights Templar. This group really existed however, there are so many conspiracy theories in myths surround you could do an entire series on them specifically.
They did it's called Assassin's Creed
And people only ever talk about the Templars as though there weren't other important orders like the Tectonic and Hospitallers
@@spyrofrost9158 My favorite is the knights of Lazarus. Literal Lepar knights.
@@spyrofrost9158 I think that might be because the real Templars (not Assassin's Creed version) were quite controversial in real life. Yes, the other orders existed. They didn't gain the notoriety of the Templars, however. France didn't execute the members of the other orders.
@@spyrofrost9158 Also, interestingly enough the Church ordered that all lands and wealth of the Templars be turned over to the Hospitaliers. Many of the nobility of Europe & nations such as France fought this, wanting to keep these things for themselves.
How can this be so when the Holy Roman Empire, Eastern Roman Empire and Papacy didn't exist? Clearly human civilization came into existence in 1969.
There is no human civilization, you are all just illusions to trick me into believing reality exists.
I was born in 1952. So I just popped into existence on my my 17th birthday in 1967?
@@markhorton3994 Yeah pretty much. Open your eyes - the media has lied to you all your life!
@@markhorton3994 No, as stated you popped into existence on your 19th birthday on 1969. Everything before that was a lie created by Big tech and the Lizard president.
@@MrHazz111 I see you can't do simple arithmetic either. 15th.
The way you pronounced Gesellschaft zur Rekonstruktion der Menschheits- und Naturgeschichte really surprised me as a German! You do seem to know how 'sch' and 'ch' and 'nd' like in Kunde is pronounced which is astonishing. I wish I had your talent for languages! Always great content!
Well, he has some master or doctored or smt in linguistics I guess
Well the "ch" was not 100% clean, but otherwise the pronounciation was almost perfect. He must have learned how to speak German, otherwise this is not possible.
Basil II, not Constantine VI, was Roman Emperor in the year 1,000.
And the entire Pan-Islamic Empire (Rashidun, Ummayad, and early Abbassid Caliphates) happened during the 297 years of "Phantom Time". If Phantom Time were real, how would the mighty Sassanid Empire (at its height under Khosrau II in 614) have been replaced by the smaller, weaker, _Shia_ Buyids?
Actually there is lack of materiał sources in that period for Islam world too. There is huge time gap between first coins with shahada and building mosque in Jerusalem and the life of the prophet. Oldest exemples of scriptures are even newer. So this theory suprisingly fit. What is more there is a gap in history of early slavic Kingdoms. "Slavs came to Europe in 7 century, there was Samons Kingdom, and bang in 10 century mighty Kingdoms of Poland and Bohemia."
Guys i have a theory that the 21st Century doesn't exist. We have Roman architecture and we follow Christianity. That means we're actually in Rome. If the 21st century was real we'd have flying cars and holograms and advanced technology.
Well flying cars are thechnically possible since ~1960's. But they would be very fuel inefficient and... imagine New York traffic in 3D and every minor car crash resulting in a drop from at least dozens of meters high.
Actually first flying car already landed. Somewhere in Czech if i recall. UNLESS IT WAS FAKE! D:
okay i think part of my joke is being missed. Holograms and flying cars are both things happening in 2022, hence why i listed them as things that are not to use as evidence to justify my "theory".
Or did the 20th century never end and we are currently living in the year 19122!
No to mention skinjobs, I mean replicants.
Looking at the state of the world, and the global politics, I'd hope people of the future refer to our time as the "Intellectual Dark Ages"... Because frankly... It is.
A few centuries from now...
"The birth of the internet began what we historians call the "Dunning-Kruger Period..."
Much of the problem is that many children are not taught truly good critical thinking skills in school. And children without critical thinking skills grow to become adults who are delusional.
It's not just that. Science itself these days became too much dogmatic, not to say religious. It often tells you that something is a fact without really explaining why is it so, nor presenting any evidence for it. Even if they mention evidence, they only say that there _is_ vast evidence for something, but they never present the evidence for you to check for your own. They tell you _what_ they know, but they rarely (if ever) tell you _how_ do we know that. How things have been discovered in the past, who discovered it, and how do we know about it. No wonder people are losing their trust for science, or making up their own crazy theories, like the flurthers. And when they do, they are met with ridicule instead of explanation and evidence that they could check for their own and convince themselves that it's really how scientists tell them.
Love these videos! I appreciate the way you pick apart these "theories" piece by piece. The Metatron has truly spread his wings
Thank you!
I have seen this theory before, and it is dumb as hell. It has so many problems
Also, "is that the final boss" is 100% the best way to react to a hard word.
The final boss of English is the word "world".
Even natives don't always say "weyarrld" each time and just quickly say "word" instead.
@@Halo_Legend I usually end up saying wurld
@@Halo_Legend I've never heard someone pronounce world as word.
No, the final boss is Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz ;)
Romanesque architecture means the round arch. It was supplanted by the pointed arch around 1200. However the rounded arch made a comeback during the Renaissance.
Yes, I think Metatron is confusing Romanesque with Classical. Classical art is from the Roman era, but Romanesque is the style from 1000-1200.
@@fransbuijs808 Earlier than that it is a continuation of Byzantine architecture, just look at Ravenna.
@@fredo1070 *Roman*
@@alexmag342 that's why it's called Roqmanesque architecture
@@alexmag342 Byzantine.
Honestly, a phantom time hypothesis or mechanic would be far more interesting in a fictional setting. Perhaps a Warlock warped time to have history play out in a specific manner to summon some God or something.
What did that have to do with the video? Got me there.
@IMightBeAz - iirc, it has been used by Terry Pratchett in some of his Discworld books. One that springs to mind is in the book ‘Mort’, Death’s apprentice botches reaping the soul of a Princess/queen, so within her kingdom time progresses as if she hasn’t died, but outside its borders in the rest of the Disc time goes on as if she had died and iirc, when things get fixed both time periods end up existing with the Disc’s history (although, I guess that’s kinda the inverse of the hypothesis come to think of it 🤔).
@@lordofuzkulak8308 "Arrangements have been made".
Also "botching" it? He deliberately didn't do it.
The disc also has the time monks who work to patch such stuff up. And no, it's not that both periods exist. Death uses his powers to keep it that Princess Keli rules.
The Elder Scrolls games use this all the time. One of the Tamrielic emperors, Tiber Septim, changed his homeland Cyrodiil's climate so that it not only turned from jungle into lush garden, but changed natural history that it had _always been so,_ changing the human history of the area in the process.
Kinda meta thing, as this in-game lore probably reflects game studio Bethesda's own change of heart in the process of making ES 4: Oblivion, which takes place in Cyrodiil: they originally visioned it to be a jungle province, but changed it in the process towards more classical Western Europe -like setting.
Bethesda is also notorious from changing their lore of the world of Tamriel arbitrarily to suit whatever newest game/DLC requires. Tamriel, as it stands, is a place & time of perpetual change.
"Illig was born" "are we sure about that"
most effortless joke ever, this guy was asking for that one
I am so fascinated by the ability to construct a conspiracy theory. I mean, you have to invent so much, go through such a thought process and be willing to make fantastic new interpretations of available material.
I mean, sci-fi and fantasy novelists should really feel that these conspiracists are trying steal their game.
Having lived with a couple of conspiracy theorists for a quarter of a century, not all conspiracy theories are that complicated. The ones on history are just way more complicated than most people want to even get involved with. This one is ... Yeah. somewhere there is a sci fi/fantasy novelist looking at the outline of this theory and shaking their heads. "No one will suspend disbelief long enough to get into the characters." Crumples up paper and starts over.
Nah, these losers never patent their views so we can just steal their ideas into our own stories, no questions asked.
@@omegatired I present to you: the word "hahaha". Strongly recommend ;)
@@Halo_Legend 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Yep. Frequently applied it to the late conspiracy theorists ideas along with looks of disbelief.
All you have to do is make a wild claim, then work backwards to justify it.
Example: Big Soap controls the world.
People used to make their own soap, but there wasn't a lot of money in it. So a bunch of rich moguls got together and started making industrial soap, removing natural ingredients from the process for the purposes of cheaper chemicals that also work to make the users less fertile and more open to suggestion. Eventually they switched to liquid soap manufacturing for a cheaper product, but it also soaks into the skin easier, making mind control much more effective.
Therefore, in order to fight against the influence of Big Soap, you should buy all natural Burly Man Soap, which will make you a free thinker and restore your sexual potency!
Took me five minutes to come up with that.
Well my histroy Teacher was really fan of this theory, 26 Years ago ... damn I am old :D, we did a lot of projects around this and worked out if it could have been done or not and we found quite the same points. And great job on the "Gesellschaft zur Rekonstruktion der Menschheits- und Naturgeschichte." :)
W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie
@@Halo_Legend bless u :D
@@Halo_Legend
Uhm...
OK ?
"Vohenstrauß"
would be pronounced:
foe-en-shtrous
The pronunciation of the society was actually pretty good. Appreciate the effort.
"Lack of evidence is not evidence of lack."
Yeah, by the logic of these types of conspiracy theorists, the dinosaurs must have been the first creatures to ever walk on this planet because we don't have many, if any fossils from the Cenozoic to the Precambrian periods.
Ooof no offense to the sponsor but "personal carbonfootprint" while easily digestible by an individual is a miniscule insignificant part of global pollution because it inherently takes into account that any use of services provided to the individual is set in stone and the provider can do no wrong and is tied to current practices, which is insanity.
Also the whole concept was a fabrication to divert responsability away from BP, and there's also evidence that simple measures taken by these giants could easily have turned the tide in our favor AND KEEP PROFITS, including global goverments stopping subsidies and incentivizing renewables, with an argument to be made for temporary nuclear power as well...
No german sentence was ever designed to be said fast, ten times in a row 🤣
Wrong. "Stimmt nicht!" 😜
When I first heard about this, I thought the person telling me about it was just doing a poor job of trying to explain the term "dark ages" being a misnomer. It took a while to actually realize how far he was going into crazy.
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU TO DO THIS
I've been having a conversation with a guy who thinks that the pyramids were basically massive solar power generators to power an advanced civilization.
When I asked him how blocks of limestone and granite could supposedly produce solar power he was less than enthusiastic.
Damn, I wanted to hear how stone provided solar power. It would change everything
Solar powered climate control devices. They heat up during day and warm the winds at night. This is star trek shit you know!
Well you see, they used to be white washed so the white surface of the pyramids would reflect and focus the sunlight to where they needed.
Reminds me of the products that are basically aluminum pyramids frames. The manufacturers has numerous claims that it make you smart , sharpen blades and other stuffs. I think one iteration is "barong triangle" endorsed by a weatherman of all people.
I mean, anything on earth with mass absorbs solar radiation and converts it to thermal "power" in the sense that it holds a temperature above that of the void of space, so in a purely technical sense he is correct... but obviously anything beyond basic thermodynamics concepts is hogwash.
For me your first argument is the strongest. It's parallel to believing the Soviets would not have called BS on the Moon landing "hoax".
Would they know if a manned craft or unmanned craft went there?
@@jeffkardosjr.3825 Video signals from the Moon are pretty conclusive.
And yes, the old joke about faking it on Earth with 60's video tech being more expensive than doing it for real is true.
The Soviets would have been looking for literally any hint of fakery.
EDIT. Also, they'd have been able to receive and decode bio telemetry for the astronauts, and would have detected uplinked signals if they had existed.
@@markfergerson2145 Not really.
A probe can have prerecorded content.
@@jeffkardosjr.3825 no, they wouldn't, which is why they could have easily screamed 'prove it! it's impossible'... and had no reason not to at the time.
They knew it was possible and thus had no reason to doubt it based on the actual evidence, which is why they, and really all intelligent people, dismiss that conspiracy theory as the nonsense it frankly is.
@@jeffkardosjr.3825 Think about all of the variables prerecorded content would have to account for. Slight orbital velocity changes would drastically alter when the craft went behind and came out from behind the Moon, for instance. That's just one detail theorists never consider.
To make the conspiracy theory work would require far more materials, planning and sheer luck than went into the actual landings.
As a german I can say your pronunciation of "Gesellschaft zur Rekonstruktion der Menschheits- und Naturgeschichte" was quite good.
As a Balkan history nerd I’m familiar with a lot of pseudohistories pushing the national agendas of basically every ethnic group in the Balkans. Croats are Illyrians or Goths, not Slavs, Serbs are the proto Indo Europeans, Bosniaks existed as a people not only prior to the conversion to Islam or even the Banate of Bosnia but in the Neolithic and they built magical pyramids, Greeks are Albanians, Albanians are Serbs, Slavic Macedonians are the people of Alexander, etc.
One theory I, as a lover of real medieval Serbian history am particularly annoyed by is the easily disproven “autochthonous hypothesis”, claiming Serbs and other Slavs did not migrate to the Balkans but were rather always there and that the Slavs or even all Indo Europeans branched out from there. This is kind of a reaction to Albanian pseudo historical claims about Albanians in Kosovo being remnants of the Dardanians, which they of course, are not.
And of course phantom time posits that the late migration period, when the Serbs, Croats, and Bulgars came to the Balkans, did not happen, and is used in all kinds of wacky ways and conveniently, implicating the Byzantines in the conspiracy erases basically all historical records of the Balkans between the fall of Rome and roughly the 1000s when Serbia began to interact with and get written about by the Siculo-Normans and crusaders. There is the Chronicle of the Priest of Dioclea that talks about that era but it’s a much later secondary source.
So I’m glad you covered this hot steaming mess
There are few ethnic groups that don't have somebody spouting this sort of nonsensical propaganda. Afrocentrists and Hindu nationalists are probably the worst. Nordic "Aryans" as the progenitors of all culture got discredited after WW2 but seems to be coming back in some circles. Japan's government also taught the same thing - Japanese were the first people and used to be the center of super-advanced world culture - in their ultra-nationalist stage but I doubt many Japanese people today buy any of it.
@@brucetucker4847 I know. I find the Catalans particularly funny. There are reasons I specifically have a problem with this in the Balkans:
1) Given the recent Yugoslav wars, nationalism is at an all time high so a surprising amount of people actually believe these insane theories
2) I like history, my ancestors are from the Balkans, I study a lot of Balkan history, and when looking for information or discussing this with people, I often hit the roadblock of "WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE SERBS MIGRATED! WE'VE NEVER MIGRATED ANYWHERE! WE SPAWNED HERE1!" and I get called a western cuck or something. And God forgive I discuss Croatian or Albanian history with anyone. Since I take a fairly academic approach, I end up being called a traitor by some of my own people (Serbs) for not promoting certain more absurd theories on that side and the same from Albanians or Croats for not saying that God personally sculpted them from his own ejaculatory fluids on the exact holy and blessed they live on today before he created amoebas, and that all other humans are descended from their turds.
Judging by the title, this is going to be another awsome video! :) Ok, enough talk, time to watch! :)
Dendrochronology is a good way of tracing , but the results are not so specific. That's why we use other methods as well, combined with sources
Every time I run out of Metatron videos to watch I fell like I'M living in the Dark Ages.
Just came across this one on Twitter, yet again, from an Afrocentrist, taught this by his university he claimed but who knows if that is true; that Greeks weren't literate until they were taught how to read and write by Egyptians. When Alexander the Great got there. I've heard numerous ridiculous variations on this, but essentially it is, Africans either taught Europeans how to read and write, OR taught them how to read and write AGAIN after they had forgotten during the "Dark Ages" (not the Greek Dark Ages).
Stupidity without frontiers...
next time that comes up just point out that at the time of 'first contact' between Greece and egypt, Egyptian was a logogram and greek is a proper alphabet... basically two fundamentally different approaches to a written language. How the greeks learned something that would be essentially alien to the egyptians from the egyptians would be a fascinating but of mental gymnastics
@@petriew2018 Oh these sorts don't care about historical facts. I've tried to discuss Linear A and B, they just say they didn't actually exist.
@@petriew2018 To the extent they base this on anything remotely resembling evidence, it's that the classical Greek alphabet was based on Phoenician letters that ultimately descended from people adapting Egyptian logograms to represent sounds in their own language (the proto-Sinaitic script). But that was a good thousand years before the Greek alphabet developed, and, again, that was brought to Greece by Phoenicians, not Egyptians. And the Greek alphabet existed in some form for a good 4-500 years before Alexander the Great. It also wasn't the first script used to write Greek, that was the script we now know as Linear B, which was probably descended from Cretan hieroglyphs that were, as far as we can tell, completely unrelated to Egyptian hieroglyphs. And while the Egyptians definitely invented their own hieroglyphs, it is quite likely that they didn't independently invent the idea of writing, they got the idea from the Sumerians.
Of course the Afrocentrists also insist that the Sumerians, like basically everyone else on the planet, were actually black Africans before they got "replaced" by "Arabs". And any evidence for anything contradicting their claims is all fake news made up by racists.
Afrocentrists are very silly people.
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That is honestly the best pronounciation I ever heared of non-German. :O
Perfectly pronounced the german words 👌
Thank you for your content, I appreciate
Great Video as always!
@Metatron as an german i want to say your quote Gesellschaft zur Rekonstruktion der Menschheits- und Naturgeschichte was on point i am allways impressed how good your language skills are.
Your german pronounciation is suprisingly good.
Your German pronunciation is fantastic!
So we do not have evidence of two brothers: Cyril and Methodius, coming up with a writing system for the Slavs in the 860s later reworked into the Cyrillic script used to this day ?
Ah lovely, I was wondering when this would pop up on your radar :D
I would like if you checked the "mud flood" theory and "Tartaria", since it can be helpful to talk about actual lost empires and buried archeological sites
The main reason for the existence of theories like this is common shortsightedness. Yes, you can find regions with little to no new constructions in a given time span, however if you step over borders you suddenly find the evidence you could not (or did not want to) see.
Metatron, are those in background miniatures for Kings of War (Basilea)? If so, that's so cool, put some photos of those little dudes once painted please
Yes! Good spotting! I’ve just got into it.
There's a book called Holy Blood Holy Grail, published in 1982, and it's about Mary Magdaline being the Holy Grail. Supposedly, she and Jesus Christ had a son and their son was the progenitor of the Merovingian Dynasty of France. The book was used as a source for a book and movie. It was based on a document in the French National Library wich has been discredited as a forgery.
I ran into a guy that claimed all time before the 1700 had been fabricated because there were no items or letters with dates written on them before that.
I said that didn't make sense and wasn't true, proceeding to show him many pictures and documentation of items from museums.
He immediately switched his claim without acknowledgement and just claimed all those were forged.
It fits with his claim that it was all fabricated. You should have asked him why anyone would go to all that trouble.
@@julietfischer5056 You seem to have missed the point. He claimed one thing, then when his claim was shown obviously false, he dropped it and jumped to trying to explain why the opposite of his original claim was true.
The moment i read the title i knew it was about Illig, i read the book around 20 years ago. Illig is to history what Erich von Däniken is to Aliens. He looks at something, draws a crazy conclusion and then creates the arguments to "prove" his opinion.
Hey, Metatron, you should talk about hollow Earth, and the lengths people have gone through to find it
I like how sometimes you can just fire up a video and give an immediate like from the title alone.
This gonna be gooood.
You did quite nicely with your German. My grandmother would have been proud.
The gap of 3 "missing" days to explain the 300 years gap is simple to explain : the corrected Gregorian calendar didn't target what it was at year zero, but how it was during the Council of Nicea in 325. So the calendar was off by 12 days since the 4th century, as there should be, and not by 15 days.
Well, it would've been pretty hard to use the year 0 as the point of reference, considering that neither julian nor gregorian calendars have year 0.
That seems to have been the starting point of Illig.
@@nanaya7e433 True, but that doesn't cause any measurable discrepancy. You get the same corrections (15 vs 10 - actually - missing days) if you target year 1 AD vs 325 AD.
@@Nikolas_Davis How any of that has anything to do with what I said will be forever a mystery to me.
Love how metatron is barely a couple minutes into the theory and already dies inside
Your "Gesellschaft zur Rekonstruktion der Menschheits- und Naturgeschichte" sounded perfect! I'm very impressed
All silliness of the theory aside, your German pronunciation is pretty spot on 💪🏻
Ooh! Oh! I've heard of this one before!
It's so mindboggling silly, it's genuinely kind of funny.
It was so funny as a German to see you trying to read that complex term lol
Great job!
Metatron, you should cover the Finno-Korean Hyperwar in response.
6:20 as a german native speaker, im unironically impressed by your pronounciation.
You have to give credit, this is definitely a cool conspiracy.
My reaction to seeing this the first time: "huh, yeah imagine how interesting that would be... it's still ridiculous."
There is no Easter Bunny, there is no Tooth Fairy, and there is no Middle Ages.
santa claus confirms that
Did... Did we just find a language that Metatron isn't fluent in? Those exist? That's clearly the most absurd conspiracy theory I've ever heard, and it's easily debunked.
It's a terrifying reality to accept.
Im sure he could learn proper German pronunciation too, as he is very much into proper language pronunciation. But then again there are so many languages that he would never learn them all.
Your pronounciation was actually really good, well done!
Metatron your German is on a different level! Very well done! :D
How would backdating even work? What dates would be left, and thus suddenly lie 300years in the past and what dates jump forward accordingly? I guess banking didn't really exist as today but surely there would be lots of cases where there are different interests on what records are adjusted to the new age and what left to the old.
And what did the Arab world think of this?
Theories like this are stunningly Eurocentric, typically because they are created out of ignorance. Being Eurocentric flows naturally out of a broader ignorance.
I love these schizo theories, good read for when you are high or drunk.
Ngl, this would make a great premise for a historical novel.
I am so amazed how good your German was on this
The Dark Ages that I learned about at school never existed. They are now called the Early Middle Ages. But what did they call the middle ages in the middle ages? They couldn't have been called the middle ages. So perhaps they really didn't exist.
We called it the Middle Ages in school and they were from 500-1500. Later I learned about a division between Early (500-1000) and Late (1000-1500) Middle Ages.
During the Middle Ages, people probably just called it "the present" or "xth century"
We don't have a name of our current time either, that is up to historians of a later era to do.
@@lytsedraak Beyond "the 21st century" or more specifically "the '20s", of course.
I was always under the impression the theory was not that the Middle Ages didn’t exist, but the dates of certain things did not get accurately recorded and so there were over laps of things.
I thought this was interesting not really knowing anything about the time period. This theory sounds outrageously out there to have pulled off, and have it still going.
You're crackin me up Metatron !!!
One way to express this conspiracy theory is: “Ain’t nobody got time for that!”
I think wren would do better job if they dropped this carbon footprint coercion tactics and simply offered environmental projects to support. "Repent for sin of your mere existence!" type of rhetoric isn't going to work well outside of very specific group of people.
Anyway, great video as usual. Keep up the good work.
It's old school. Who would have imagined that the 21st century would see the revival of buying indulgences for your sins?
As a german myself, I think you spelled the german words quite well ;-)
as an american watching an Italian try and pronounce german is a thing to never forget
'how could they have anticipated all the diferent ways that our' hmmm I smell half a season of Ancient Aliens just from that question.
Ok but we’re still going with the Conspiracy Theory that Pope Sylvester II was a medieval wizard that had a mechanical bronze head that could answer questions like some sort of demonic magic eight ball, right? Yeah, there’s some weird stories around him, which I don’t take seriously.
I remember seeing a conspiracy theory where they say theres evidence an ancient Hindu sage invented airplanes 7000 years ago and could move in any direction and tragel from planet to planet.
When I saw that I was like, oh Lord! Add that to the list of dumb stuff thats out there on the internet
Hindu mythology is a motherlode for 'Ancient Astronaut' and 'Primordial Civilization' types. It has a cosmic sweep missing from European and Abrahamic religions and mythologies, incredible vehicles and weapons used in wars that make the Olympians v. Titans look like a playground fight, and hasn't been unduly influenced by outsiders.
Germab here: I actually remember seeing a documentary about this on TV waaay ago. Something about 300 years beeing fabricated or rather the time frame shifted. Wasnt expecting this to make its way here lol
The year without summer, and the year without sun, you really can call it the dark ages.
Ave, Metatron; I salute your attempts at German pronunciation (you're doing fine; keep practicing, amigo mio), and once again, we're in agreement on the fact that the 'Middle Ages' did indeed exist 😁. For me, two questions arise: First, where did the idea of 'missing time' come from in the first place? Second, what modern agenda would it advance?
Check out the Mud Flood and the Tartarian Empire conspiracy theories
Aloha Metatron,
A little insight into your latest video that you forgot to mention.
The Chinese at that time had the first “Astrological Almanac” which pre dates western almanac by about 200-300 years. It was the first almanac to have time zones to figure out “longitude” in navigation.
Well I figure I’ll just tell you this.
Aloha,
Walter
P.S.
I really like your videos about history and historical info on places and times in history. You give a very detailed analysis of the subject with reliable sources and information.
I realized that the reason why I never have time for anything is because my life only has two halves. That actually explains a lot...
Hey, there are people who write and read books about alternate history right? I like to think of these conspiracies in a similar manner. I know there are people who fully believe in them which is silly but whats wrong in developing these theories in the 1st place? They are just insanely interesting to think about!!!
@Evil Dragon man if they are interesting and plausible (!) enough i do not care
You answeared yourself. What is wrong in developing them? People belive in them. Just like not so long ago people belived %G transfer coronavirus and destroy comunication towers
Just for fun check out " History: Chronology 1" by Professor Anatoly Fomenko. This book goes down so many rabbit holes it'll spin your head but is incredibly interesting. He doesn't invoke any conspiracy but lays it down to human error. Just the statistical analysis section on frequency of references to historical events is amazing. Even if you dismiss the premises it's still a great read.
Or anything by Vincent Bridges about the Alchemists of Prague and the search for the Philosophers' Stone ;)
I smiled when I saw the title. I figured this would be entertaining. Thank you for making my morning better. God bless.
You should do a video on mud flood and Great Tartaria if you haven't already.
your pronunciation of "Gesellschaft zur Rekonstruktion der Menscheits- und Naturgeschichte" wasn't actually that bad... very good in fact compared to other UA-camrs trying to pronounce German words. sure it's not perfect but compared to others I've heard it's pretty good
All of these personal emissions reducing and tree planting ain't gonna do shit unless the corporations reduce their emissions as well
"Is that the level boss" lmao