I hear Aventurine's boss fight theme, makes me wonder if an Emanator like Acheron can 1 shot a Dark Falz lols nice gameplay was able to memorize Dalion's patterns watching your previous vid and finally cleared it
Impressive as ever. While I loath the fact the game went from "Play how you want!" to "Use Ranger Sub and the one stat literally no one invests in, ever, OR ELSE" just for endgame content is, for me, annoying, to put it mildly. While I love the mechanics of this fight, I genuienly enjoy how teamwork heavy it is, I hope they never do something like this again (as far as you MUST use X). If the BP is 4050 and my BP is 4098 and that isn't good enough, why even bother letting me in? I don't mind the death penalty, but the THICK BOY HP and hemorrhaging time limit I feel is a bit too much. I love this game, obviously, and I will support it where I can. But I don't enjoy having my arm twisted.
@@thaweebz_f8266 I already acknowledged that it is endgame, but it is too much. Any challenge can be overcome with enough DPS and "getting good". But as I said, why even let me in if I'm still too weak? The boss demands teamwork, I love that. It has colossal HP. Okay, fine. It also has a 15 minute time limit (less actually because the clock starts before you can even touch it). The health and time limit together is a bit too restrictive. I felt Solus did it better. Solus truly was a "more DPS" moment. I never heard or saw anyone talking about floor potency or Ranger Subs. Yet Kat, one of the best players, did for Dalion. And if she did, what chance do the casuals and semi-hardcores have? Make no mistake, I will beat Dalion one day. But I will never forget how Solus just wanted more damage while Dalion wants me to change my playstyle, and not in the good way. I like endgame stuff, but there should be a difference between going in however I want (especially when BP gives me the green light...), learn the fight and, if needed, come back stronger as opposed to never mind the fact you already have endgame gear and augs, but now also must play this specific way and use classes and augs you would never use just to clear. That is preposterous
Great stuff as always! I saw a lot of Stay Waving Rigel and Moving Flowing Sirius spam during non-down phase. I was usually under the impression that Stay WR is a gap filler PA while Moving FS is a mobility/reposition tool. Do they do more dps than just Stay Shifting Spica spam? Also the consensus is that you need to chain T3 RR into wa23 to be similar to FS + WA123 right? I saw that on downed phase but for active phase I saw RR+WA spam, is that just for quick rage build up? Is that just pure RR WA cancel or it's T3's RR to WA1? Anyway just curious but impressive as always 🤗 Edit: Oh I saw mongrel already got some overlapping questions. Also kicking other people's puppets during orange aoe with your football is actually a genius idea
Hi Angel! This fight is super strange with hitboxes, and Move Flowing Sirius helps fix that a lot. Sometimes you really, really have to close into the puppet in order to hit anything. And at the same time, you also need to quickly reposition away because you’ll miss your counters if you’re too close. That’s why I like using Stay Rigel and its range here so much too. Even UR, which homes in on it, can completely whiff if you use it at the wrong time. And yes! The new combo is good because of that free charge blade and skipping straight to WA23. Annnd UR builds really fast with RR, yup!
@@KatydidYT Thanks for the fast reply! Is there a way to kinda reliably predict when the down is so you can move closer to the head before the down? Because the puppet charge and one of the map wide AOE doesn't really want you to be at the front. And yea the single side swipes are annoying for sure, if i stay too close to the right edge of the map I missed my step counter. Also with my three ground bashes I can miss the last one a lot too because i stepped out of the hitbox during my second counter while locked on.
@@angelkitteh6641 Besides the Break Bar, the other downs are all down to timing on your own. I wait a bit first, and only start inching closer when I have two blastor shots (or 1 and know a 2nd is coming), so I can utilize the s if needed. And yeah…positioning is key to the puppet fight. It’s frustrating if you try to fight them as you would any other enemy, but at the same time, it’s fun to change things up!
Amazing run! I'm glad this quest can at least be duoed. I have a few questions if you don't mind! 1) I notice that you often switch up between which Pa you use to spam before you counter. Is this just free form or does each attack have different cancel window timings? 2) During the turret phase it looked like the puppet for giving a bullet charge was being ignored by you. Is one person capable of destroying it easily? 3) Also during the turret phase I noticed moments where you guys didn't rush to immediately melee and just instead let them pass you to fire at still. I'm assuming for this specific instance that's better DPS? 4) Finally you guys seemed to hold onto the bullet shots till after the melee part where they go across the field. Could you explain why?
Hi Mongrel! 1) Each PA does have a use! I use move flowing sirius to build UR and reposition at the same time. The puppets hitboxes are very tricky, such as the side punch that can actually miss your counters very often if you don't reposition a bit further. Stay Rigel is for damage to just fit in before counters. Stay Regulus dash cancelling, I found no use for until this fight. It's a sandbag dps option that builds UR really fast. Stay Spica has the same use as Stay Rigel, but with a more open window. Flowing Sirius12 Combo is still your go-to option for large windows for sandbag dps; otherwise, for more medium windows, the new Type3 Stay Regulus Combo works very well. (Stay T3 Regulus -> RB -> Charged Blade -> WA23). 2) Yes, one person can slash it very easily in duo. In 4p, you'll want 2-3 people to focus on it. Too many can interrupt dps since you have to let go of shooting. 3) We're prepositioning for melee on downs and especially the Break! Inching towards the head and only slashing when we're far away from the down timings. 4) We're saving the bullet shots to quickly unveil the random 1/8 chance to find its weakpoint. Most of the time save comes from unveiling the weakpoint ASAP. In 4p, we assign one person per puppet to use their shots on both crystals. In 2p, we are guessing and hoping we find it ASAP! Hope these help! 😊
@@KatydidYT I knew that move sirius was often used for repositioning to do counters so that makes sense, but it's interesting that you need it specifically to land some counters due to how far off the puppets can be on the edges. I've heard of similar issues with other classes. I've often wondered about Stay Rigel though since I've seen people spam that 3-4 times before a counter opportunity. I'm used to doing that with Stay Spica. As for sR dash canceling it's cool that has a use now beyond style points haha. Thanks though! Slayer has crazy optimization routing. Ah okay so quest scaling with players is the situation with that puppet, good to know. Makes sense, I've seen others reposition over time so they get more slashes in on the down, given how beefy those are it makes sense to prioritize those hits. Fair enough on that last bit! And yes, you're always so helpful with answering questions and your content. Looking forward to more as always~
It seems I still have a lot to learn about my main class. Speaking of learning. That combo you did on phys down at 1:10. What was that? If you don't mind me asking
I don't mind! It's the new combo that came out when the custom PA Type 3 Regulus got introduced. (Stay T3 Regulus -> RB -> Charged Blade -> WA23) In smaller windows, it's a great sandbag option that is PP positive and is comparable to Flowing Sirius12 without a super long animation. 🎉
@@saule3060 Make sure you visit the class counter and unlock the tech arts customization! Type 3 Regulus. When you use it, a bright light shows up on your character. Press wa to activate charged blade. The RB (relentless blade) part, is a part of the regulus itself, so make sure to click normal attack during the PA.
Ranger is the go-to subclass for party runs in this fight! The reason being, if you have a ranger in your team, they can apply blight bullet to one of the puppets. And if the other teammates have Ranger Sub, then they'll be able to make use of the Self Benefit skill in the Ranger tree. This gives a huge potency boost to your class, as long as a blight bullet exists somewhere in the quest. 😄
Hi! Few things to start off with =] 1. Yes I added you because you're a female gamer, 'tis an awesome thing to see! 2. I'm Zouta. 3. Don't be intimidated, but I'm not like a stereotypical guy. If anything, I'll be the one in the kitchen =D
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Great duo clear! you two played super well ALSO BANGER MUSIC
Great music choice as usual, congrats on the duo clear you two!
this is interestning way to play Sl
i never knew you can do this kind of move as Slayer myself
Amazing run, congrats for the duo clear!
Awesome kat and such inspiration! Loved it hugs
I had a lot of fun running! Thanks for putting up with all my deaths LOL
awesome job Kat! Always so inspiring ^-^
Amazing run Kat! Mind blown!
I hear Aventurine's boss fight theme, makes me wonder if an Emanator like Acheron can 1 shot a Dark Falz lols nice gameplay was able to memorize Dalion's patterns watching your previous vid and finally cleared it
I loovvee Aven ~ And yes, I think Acheron can one-shot everything in NGS. ✨Congrats on your clear!!! That’s a big accomplishment! 😊
@@KatydidYT thanks again
congrats ! super duo !
I always weapon action because the attack reflects the monsters on attack back at, it can't handle its own crap
What legends
Impressive as ever. While I loath the fact the game went from "Play how you want!" to "Use Ranger Sub and the one stat literally no one invests in, ever, OR ELSE" just for endgame content is, for me, annoying, to put it mildly. While I love the mechanics of this fight, I genuienly enjoy how teamwork heavy it is, I hope they never do something like this again (as far as you MUST use X). If the BP is 4050 and my BP is 4098 and that isn't good enough, why even bother letting me in? I don't mind the death penalty, but the THICK BOY HP and hemorrhaging time limit I feel is a bit too much. I love this game, obviously, and I will support it where I can. But I don't enjoy having my arm twisted.
People were able to enter the mdfa uq 8 levels down with full free gear. BP requirement is a joke in this game.
Don’t even need Ra Sub tbh lmao, just need the dps then u good,I feel this is meant for the near max pot ppl
@@thaweebz_f8266 I already acknowledged that it is endgame, but it is too much. Any challenge can be overcome with enough DPS and "getting good".
But as I said, why even let me in if I'm still too weak? The boss demands teamwork, I love that. It has colossal HP. Okay, fine. It also has a 15 minute time limit (less actually because the clock starts before you can even touch it). The health and time limit together is a bit too restrictive. I felt Solus did it better. Solus truly was a "more DPS" moment. I never heard or saw anyone talking about floor potency or Ranger Subs. Yet Kat, one of the best players, did for Dalion. And if she did, what chance do the casuals and semi-hardcores have? Make no mistake, I will beat Dalion one day. But I will never forget how Solus just wanted more damage while Dalion wants me to change my playstyle, and not in the good way. I like endgame stuff, but there should be a difference between going in however I want (especially when BP gives me the green light...), learn the fight and, if needed, come back stronger as opposed to never mind the fact you already have endgame gear and augs, but now also must play this specific way and use classes and augs you would never use just to clear. That is preposterous
Great stuff as always!
I saw a lot of Stay Waving Rigel and Moving Flowing Sirius spam during non-down phase. I was usually under the impression that Stay WR is a gap filler PA while Moving FS is a mobility/reposition tool. Do they do more dps than just Stay Shifting Spica spam?
Also the consensus is that you need to chain T3 RR into wa23 to be similar to FS + WA123 right? I saw that on downed phase but for active phase I saw RR+WA spam, is that just for quick rage build up? Is that just pure RR WA cancel or it's T3's RR to WA1?
Anyway just curious but impressive as always 🤗
Edit: Oh I saw mongrel already got some overlapping questions.
Also kicking other people's puppets during orange aoe with your football is actually a genius idea
Hi Angel!
This fight is super strange with hitboxes, and Move Flowing Sirius helps fix that a lot. Sometimes you really, really have to close into the puppet in order to hit anything. And at the same time, you also need to quickly reposition away because you’ll miss your counters if you’re too close. That’s why I like using Stay Rigel and its range here so much too. Even UR, which homes in on it, can completely whiff if you use it at the wrong time.
And yes! The new combo is good because of that free charge blade and skipping straight to WA23. Annnd UR builds really fast with RR, yup!
@@KatydidYT Thanks for the fast reply! Is there a way to kinda reliably predict when the down is so you can move closer to the head before the down? Because the puppet charge and one of the map wide AOE doesn't really want you to be at the front.
And yea the single side swipes are annoying for sure, if i stay too close to the right edge of the map I missed my step counter. Also with my three ground bashes I can miss the last one a lot too because i stepped out of the hitbox during my second counter while locked on.
@@angelkitteh6641 Besides the Break Bar, the other downs are all down to timing on your own. I wait a bit first, and only start inching closer when I have two blastor shots (or 1 and know a 2nd is coming), so I can utilize the s if needed.
And yeah…positioning is key to the puppet fight. It’s frustrating if you try to fight them as you would any other enemy, but at the same time, it’s fun to change things up!
@@KatydidYT ohh i see, thank you!
are you all still plying this game , me just start ply
Amazing run! I'm glad this quest can at least be duoed. I have a few questions if you don't mind!
1) I notice that you often switch up between which Pa you use to spam before you counter. Is this just free form or does each attack have different cancel window timings?
2) During the turret phase it looked like the puppet for giving a bullet charge was being ignored by you. Is one person capable of destroying it easily?
3) Also during the turret phase I noticed moments where you guys didn't rush to immediately melee and just instead let them pass you to fire at still. I'm assuming for this specific instance that's better DPS?
4) Finally you guys seemed to hold onto the bullet shots till after the melee part where they go across the field. Could you explain why?
Hi Mongrel!
1) Each PA does have a use! I use move flowing sirius to build UR and reposition at the same time. The puppets hitboxes are very tricky, such as the side punch that can actually miss your counters very often if you don't reposition a bit further. Stay Rigel is for damage to just fit in before counters. Stay Regulus dash cancelling, I found no use for until this fight. It's a sandbag dps option that builds UR really fast. Stay Spica has the same use as Stay Rigel, but with a more open window. Flowing Sirius12 Combo is still your go-to option for large windows for sandbag dps; otherwise, for more medium windows, the new Type3 Stay Regulus Combo works very well. (Stay T3 Regulus -> RB -> Charged Blade -> WA23).
2) Yes, one person can slash it very easily in duo. In 4p, you'll want 2-3 people to focus on it. Too many can interrupt dps since you have to let go of shooting.
3) We're prepositioning for melee on downs and especially the Break! Inching towards the head and only slashing when we're far away from the down timings.
4) We're saving the bullet shots to quickly unveil the random 1/8 chance to find its weakpoint. Most of the time save comes from unveiling the weakpoint ASAP. In 4p, we assign one person per puppet to use their shots on both crystals. In 2p, we are guessing and hoping we find it ASAP!
Hope these help! 😊
@@KatydidYT I knew that move sirius was often used for repositioning to do counters so that makes sense, but it's interesting that you need it specifically to land some counters due to how far off the puppets can be on the edges. I've heard of similar issues with other classes. I've often wondered about Stay Rigel though since I've seen people spam that 3-4 times before a counter opportunity. I'm used to doing that with Stay Spica. As for sR dash canceling it's cool that has a use now beyond style points haha. Thanks though! Slayer has crazy optimization routing.
Ah okay so quest scaling with players is the situation with that puppet, good to know. Makes sense, I've seen others reposition over time so they get more slashes in on the down, given how beefy those are it makes sense to prioritize those hits. Fair enough on that last bit! And yes, you're always so helpful with answering questions and your content. Looking forward to more as always~
It seems I still have a lot to learn about my main class. Speaking of learning. That combo you did on phys down at 1:10. What was that? If you don't mind me asking
I don't mind! It's the new combo that came out when the custom PA Type 3 Regulus got introduced.
(Stay T3 Regulus -> RB -> Charged Blade -> WA23)
In smaller windows, it's a great sandbag option that is PP positive and is comparable to Flowing Sirius12 without a super long animation. 🎉
@@KatydidYT I wish I new what that meant. Wow I'm stupid. I've been trying but I can't get RB -> Charged blade to work
@@saule3060 Make sure you visit the class counter and unlock the tech arts customization! Type 3 Regulus. When you use it, a bright light shows up on your character. Press wa to activate charged blade. The RB (relentless blade) part, is a part of the regulus itself, so make sure to click normal attack during the PA.
I'm trying to play slayer. Can you explain why you use ranger as a subclass over other things?
Ranger is the go-to subclass for party runs in this fight! The reason being, if you have a ranger in your team, they can apply blight bullet to one of the puppets. And if the other teammates have Ranger Sub, then they'll be able to make use of the Self Benefit skill in the Ranger tree. This gives a huge potency boost to your class, as long as a blight bullet exists somewhere in the quest. 😄
@@KatydidYT Thank you for explaining! 😁
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omg WOW!!
Hi! Few things to start off with =] 1. Yes I added you because you're a female gamer, 'tis an awesome thing to see! 2. I'm Zouta. 3. Don't be intimidated, but I'm not like a stereotypical guy. If anything, I'll be the one in the kitchen =D
if you didn't understand what kat did let me break it down to you:
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