Resin Printing with the Elegoo Mars // First prints, troubleshooting, impressions
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- Опубліковано 15 січ 2020
- MyMiniFactory sent me their special edition of the Elegoo Mars DLP Resin Printer. In this video, I'll show you how it performs while making an absolutely adorable figurine. Guest appearance by the 3Doodler Create+ Leather Edition!
Shopping List :
- Elegoo Mars MMF Edition : bit.ly/MMFmars
- Elegoo Mars on Amazon (Currently $229) : amzn.to/2IO8oiW
- Elegoo Mars on GearBest (international shipping) : bit.ly/GBmars
- Elegoo ABS-like Resin : amzn.to/2wfhbYt
- 'Mozz' STL files for 3D printing : bit.ly/mozz_
- 3M Respirator : amzn.to/2ISkWG1
- 3M Vapor Cartridges : amzn.to/2TWWEAU
- 3Doodler+ Leather Edition : amzn.to/39Uxo3W
- 3Doodler Create+ Standard : amzn.to/3b5AiTx
- Bulb Air Blower/Duster + Microfiber Cloth : amzn.to/38T0a3O
- Super Lube PTFE Lubricant : amzn.to/33lwBqo
- Sandpaper Multipack : amzn.to/2IQjxQa
- 91% Isopropyl Alcohol : amzn.to/2TWWeuk
- E6000 Adhesive : amzn.to/3aYD9hd
- 3Dmate Base 3D Pen Mat : amzn.to/2TYMH6l
Thank you to MyMiniFactory and 3Doodler for providing products in exchange for my honest opinions. I have not been paid for this review.
See more Rejected Animals at rejected.animals
** Corrections **
This is an MSLA printer, not a DLP printer. It is essentially the same in how it works, but the way the UV light image is created is slightly different.
NITRILE gloves not LATEX. Latex gloves may react to printing resins so use Nitrile. - Наука та технологія
Hey Devin, there are a couple things that I noticed. First, you have the reservoir in backwards. You want the notch to be in the front right corner to make it easier to pour resin into it while printing, and when removing. Also, it appears that you didn’t fully cure the prints, as they were way to flexible. It’s a misnomer that you can let them sit in the Sun for a few hours. It would take days. It takes a few hours to fully cure prints with a 60W UV lamp.
As for the failures, that is due to the build plate not being flat. I used 220 grit wet/dry sandpaper to level the plate against a perfectly flat marble surface. Sand it down until there is no black anodization on the plate. You can either leave it that way, or continue to smooth it with 400 grit. Then make sure you level it properly. You didn’t show the test to ensure that it was flat, where you slide the paper in and out. Pay special attention to the corners.
The good thing is that they replaced the screws on your build plate with bolts, which is what you need to do if you buy the normal Elegoo Mars. If you want truly accurate prints, you’ll also want to manually set the Z axis zero. There are other things in the configuration that will make life easier too, so I suggest looking into them. I don’t have the links right now, but I can get them when I get home, if you need them.
Great content!
Sounds like solid advice. Thanks!
@@make.anything Fantastic video, few more small things i hope save you some time!
silicone sculpting tools are a great way to stir up your vat and the edged ones will also usually remove failed prints from the vat with a guarantee that you won't scratch anything
I would advise against paper towels on the vat! They leave lint and micro scratches and greatly increase the probability of something sticking to the surface.
Pick up some PEC-PADs for photography, they are very cheap and you can use them for you camera gear too! Great for cleaning the screen and other clear surfaces.
Most of the time you won't need to drain the entire vat for a failed print, if it's a large flat surface, you can use the silicone tools or your fingers (wearing gloves obviously) to extricate it.
Ambient temperature has a dramatic impact on print success, generally, warmer is better but consistent temperature is also critical. take a look at egg incubators, they are cheap, you can position the thermocouple as needed and usually a ikea container or even a tote is enough insulation.
Might consider inverting your model if you are going to sand the surface regardless those "drip details would come out perfect
A #11 scalpel is a great tool for cleaning off supports, very cheap too.
Typically two separate washes of alcohol are used, if that's what your manufacturer suggests though, i would defer to that.
A tooth brush really helps clean out those details after ten minutes of soaking in alcohol.
Finally, i second the build plate abrasion.
(note: i use a Moai 130 and Form 2 so there may be some machine specific differences)
Love your content and look forward to your future uploads!
I would add that it is easier to remove the supports before fully curing. This is information I only have second hand knowledge of as I have not yet printed anything on my Mars.
giliant you can use Kimwipes and alcohol on the film, as they are lint free and are non-abrasive when wet. Kimwipes are heavily used in the electronics industry, and very minor scratches on the film don’t affect print quality. 😎
It might be very flexible because he used "ABS-like" resin.
I don't know, that message at the beginning cheered me more up than it probably should.
"There's something in you that the world needs."
I love the little guy, I cant believe he was rejected
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i mean there's no space for a brain
"It looks like our little buddy is enjoying it"
The creature: *°----°*
No way hes more like
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these are not latex glove, don't use latex with these kind of resin, use nitrile gloves!
You're right, thanks!
Why?
@@OllieDraws Because Resin eats through latex and can get absorbed into your skin.
@@ScaryScarab21 resin isn't caustic...
CrossedCoder Yeah, resin definitely doesn’t “eat” through latex. Although the pores in latex gloves are big enough to allow resin to seep through.
I would recommend removing supports before the final cure. They're much easier to remove and have much less of a chance of shattering/pitting parts of print. I usually just pop them off by hand after washing, and letting them dry.
That makes sense. I wasn't sure if I should handle the prints much before curing
Caution is always a good idea when working with resin (and new things in general) :)
@@make.anything Resin OEM here. We would recommend keeping the supports on for 2 reasons:
- some prints cannot stand on its own so you need support to keep it upright for curing
- prints shrinkage during post-curing. For long / thing parts, keeping support on would prevent/reduce wrapping during the post-curing stage.
@@sirayatech2 I appreciate how active you are. Im doing research for a purchase and you are everywhere.
I appreciate you stressing that this isn't a toy and safety is important for res printers. Another great video!
I've been sick for a week sitting at my desk looking like hell, but... still a nice message at the beginning and it's sweet to start that way. thank you
13:18 I love how he explains this like we have a ultrasonic knife
Wondercutter S on Amazon is only $400.
Miley onDisney “Only”?
Nunya Business agreeed
Nunya Business It seems like a fair price for a tool that can make small precision cuts without splintering the model by accident but also can pierce through an Angel's protective AT Field.
I like that you always have such a high attention to detailing and finishing. I learn a lot from these videos. That also sets you apart from many other UA-cam creators.
I honestly do want one now, Mozz not the Elegoo
Tristanzpixelated AAAAHHHHH A KNOCK OFF
same
I’m a bit late but same
oof i want one too its soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo cute
I had the same trouble. You don't need to drain the tank to remove a failed print from the FEP sheet. Take the tank out and hold it level so you don't spill anything. Using light pressure, run your finger underneath the failed print from one end to the other. The failed print will peel away and you can fish it out with the plastic scraper.
The queality of resin prints always amazes me. Also, for some reason they *feel* super satisfying!
I really like the way we get to see everything failure, persistence with changes to the process, then success! Great job Devin!
I stumbled upon this video as a result of failed prints by my Elegoo Mars. Not only did this info help me in fixing my issues, but you also inspired me with so many tricks about finishing prints and painting. You have no idea how much this has helped me!
I Love the illustrative live drawing editing. a wonderful touch
I almost clicked away from this video, thinking that it seemed amatuerish / not containing much useful info. But I kept watching it and ended up learning so much! Thanks bro!
I actually love the way those droplets move to the side like that!
I just printed out a Mozz of my very own. Had a small fail at first but rearranged the supports and got a successful Mozz.
Mine is black with red eyes and white ears, and clear blue legs.
A tool that's incredibly useful for getting rid of the support marks is the AK Glass Fibre Pencil from AK Interactive. It's made for scale modelers but works insanely well (better in my opinion than sand paper) for getting rid of the support marks and blending the surface and surrounding area to looks smooth as butter.
Sounds cool!
Thank you for the beautiful compliment at the beginning, it really helped my mood
I just got my Elego Mars Pro set up yesterday and had one successful print and one failure. I have to say, the look of Mozz is incredible. I love the design so much.
Had a long tedious day. That intro just made me feel so fuzzy and special. Thank you my dude. Now I watch the video
I've watching this channel for years, back when you only had a 3d pen, and finally today my first ever 3d printer arrived! Thank you for the inspiration!!
Yayyy congrats!
So soft, so pristine! What a cute little guy, this technology seems revolutionary!
I appreciate that you showed the failed prints and your troubleshooting.
Good to see you back Devin. Happy New Year and I love the fact that you show your progress with a new printer, warts an all!
Omg🙊 he's so cute!❤ and the resins have him a really cool texture and colour, love that you left the top body unpainted👌
I was having a bad day today, but the "You are looking especially beautiful today" was the absolute highlight of my day. thank you. first video of yours I have ever saw, but this is an instant subscription and like from me. again, thanks.
Great stuff Devin, I'm glad I wasn't the only one to "overflow" resin while filtering. Messy indeed, but outstanding results. Thanks for sharing your experience. Cheers, JAYTEE
I love mozz so much he’s my favorite out of all your drawings
It’s actually helpful to see someone deal with a mistake. 🤗
Been 3D Printing for over 2 years now, and this blew me away.
Definitely looking into getting a resin printer now
I can't believe that Mozz was rejected, HE'S SO CUTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
MrAcDc2000 Sorry but rejected from what?
I'm so glad I got one of these. The print size is pretty small, but it makes such nice prints for like 200$.
I'm in love with this character! I want a cartoon with it!
Excited to see you working with the Mars!!
Very cool dude, I really appreciate you taking the time to share this.
I wasn’t sure which 3D printer get but seeing that result made me choose the Elegoo. So smooth!
Love seeing ur ideas come to life!! Great job, cool guy!!
Great vid Devin! Lovely pace, and I enjoyed seeing you overcome the challenges. Cheers!
wow, this makes me never want to switch from 3d printing. What a crazy amount of time to get the same result!
Great tutorial, love the way you troubleshot the situation - going to set mine up and this is extremely useful info. Thanks!
3:20 ... "power shaking" is not recommended as it introduces tiny bubbles to the resin. lighter rotation for a longer period may work better. FYI.
That is a GREAT character! Whomever passed on that character was a fool! Excellent work, dude. Can't wait to see what you do next.
You have got waaaay more patience than I do. After the 2nd failed attempt, I would have thrown everything back in the box it all came in and sent it back for a refund. Good job sticking with it.
Great content. Loved the fact you also include the bits that didn't work as they are very educational also. Keep up the excellent work!
Love how you used that photoshop drawing infographic to explain how this machine works! Very unique!
Yeah, that was so awesome! :D
Your animals are pretty much what I see in my sleep super wacky. Love your process
"Don't breathe in these toxic fumes!"
Formlabs: "Our rigid resin has a light pine scent."
Teacher: "only wave the scent to you, don't put your nose over it"
kids in chemistry class:
*Loudest Sniffing noise ever to exist*
@@nomasan cocaine!
@@nomasan I messed my smell up for years lol "chemical X" was ammonia - 0/5 don't recommend.
Love the spray booth
Love it! The Elegoo MOZZ!
I'm not even into figurines but I'd love to watch you create more of them!
Excellent animation and instruction.
Great looking character, what creativity! Well done after the print to NAIL the color and texture, it looks great. Lastly, *THANKS* for the 3-D explanation/example of how the printer works, subbed! 👏🏾
Great video and perfect timing too! I just got a anycubic photon and the past weekend had the exact same issue of parts either sticking to the fep or separating from the build plate a few hours into a print. I'll have to try the lubrication trick and see if that solves my woes.
This little guy is so cute. Nice work! I'm using an Anycubic Photon and Photon S to make stuff.
stumbled across your channel as it was recommended. your graphic explanation on how the printer works made me an instant subscriber. Great work.
Thanks, I did that on a whim so I'm glad it's appreciated :)
awesome video, i really enjoyed the walk through for your process!
U are an artist bro, I appreciate your work, it's amazing
Aww you made my day so much better thanks
I love this model!
Moz is so very cute! Well done!
You just made me buy a 3d printer, your channel is awesome!
Was it worth it
Botond Bóta what one did you get
I'm sure you probably found out by now but its advised to remove supports prior to curing.
THAT THING IS SOOO CUTE!!
Too good Devon dang love that character design! Do translucent Resin and LEDS next :)
Mozz is beautiful! 🤩
Thanks, it really got me started on Anycubic Photon S, leveling from start using tray, I could hear the popping sound and indeed, it went well. As for the fumes, filament printers are way more dangerous. I still have no idea why they instruct you to level using paper, I guess in order not to scratch the film, which is obviously no problem since it comes scratched and a few scratches pose no problem.
The graphics work was awesome.
Man, what a lot of work for such a simple model! But great video as always, displaying your broad knowledge, skills, and talent. I also never heard of 600-grit, let alone 1000-grit. Thanks.
Holy cow, I just got one yesterday what a timing, Great video :D
Devin doodles every day which means he is DRAWING ORIGINAL IDEAS DAILY AND WOW THATS TOO CREATIVE
I am literally crying right now. This video was too wholesome for me
Thanks so much for sharing this. I bought a Mars about a year ago and gave it a break because I was getting frustrated about prints sticking to the film. I fired it back up this month with the same issues. I just found your video a few days ago. The oil did the trick! Thank you! I'll be posting the results and giving you a shout out on my next youtube video, GenX Vault.
So glad I could help!
@@make.anything Me too!
This video really resin-ated with me
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Ba-Dumm Chang...
Great work and the nice result at the end!
Hey Devin, great to see you're trying out DLP! Would love to see experiments using pigments to dye resins and how well they perform. There's no videos out there on this, you could be the first!
Not a dlp printer.
20:00 forbidden cookie, yummm.
Omg i love it so much great job
Your stuff is always so freakin adorable!!!
Really love your content! I want a resin printer so bad!!
Please do more of these!
That intro made me smile, thank you :)
I like that tilting bed like that for dripping off the resin. Wish my printers had that.
Its just a 3d printed part (I know, the irony!) You pull the print plate off and then slide on the angled 3D part and slide the print plate onto the part to let it rest.
Like the explenation doodle on the video . very entertaining and good explaination :)
Can you make more videos on these creatures?! Absolutely wonderful production and outcome!
Would love a tutorial on how you made the creature in Fusion 360! Beautiful design and final print.
Such a huge fan of your rejected animals, Mozz just looks adorable! Impressive as always!
why do i want to get this lil dude tattooed so much? hes too pure. i love him.
You can pause the print see if it is working.
I'd recommend curing the part while it is under water in a jar. It cures much faster.
Lastly, support removal can be made easier by using a tub of hot water, soaking the print for maybe 10 seconds in the hot water and the supports should come off very easily and pretty cleanly as well.
I was looking for this comment! And I was silently hoping I could be the first one mention it... I've got my mars printer only yesterday so much to learn... ;-)
I've never heard of curing underwater. This sounds very promising thanks so much
@@IlSharmouta It seems oxygen prevents curing so if you can limit the parts "air" exposure they will cure better. Also if you get a semi cure from ambient light (there's a fair amount of UV coming off florescent bulbs for instance) before or while you are cleaning the part, the final cure can leave the part a little tacky. Its almost as if some of the solvent (water, soap IsoP gets trapped between layers of cured resin.
After seeing your intro, I thought to myself... "what a nice way to even just trigger a thought that I might be beautiful on some level". How can you not smile, and feel at least a tiny bit better? It took you 5 sec to make me SUB! (Also NOTED! 😀 )
I was hoping you would go over resin printing, I've seen ads for them and they seemed realy good if used properly
I'm just watching this and it already looks awesome! I can't wait to watch it properly, I enjoyed the intro. Maybe you could experiment with resin and FDM printing together? Not quite sure how or if it would work bit it would be fun to see you try :)
You have soooo much free time man.
I love him! he's such a cute little drippy bunny boy :))
those animations were on point
Great to see that you dive into resin printing. As the main explanation of how DLP/MSLA works. There is UV LED in the bottom that cures the resin, and LCD screen itself only mask's the light from the UV LED. Overall good video, keep up the work ;)
It is ADORABLE!
Hope your next resin printing journeys will go smoother. ^_^
That model turned out really cute. I think it'd sell pretty well!