Dude. I've been 3D printing for over 10 years with FDM. Last year, I got my first resin printer, and I've all but given up on it because of all the failed prints and lack of true understanding of supports. Well, I've watched TONS of videos and still never grasped the full concept of it. That was, until your video. THANK YOU for breaking this down like this. I actually left here UNDERSTANDING how supports are used in resin prints. I'm going to fire her up tomorrow morning and give it a go! Thank you again, for this amazing, very well taught lesson on supports!
There's another reason for hole punching a hollow object and that is to allow for breathing during the printing process. When the hollow print lifts from the fep it might have to fight extra vacuum within the hollow room. Punching a small hole close to the build plate will allow breathing and relieve any vacuum pressure. :) Just wanted to share that
If you run 'auto fix' in Photon File Validator, that fix doesn't carry over to your model, so when you do the final slice of the model, those pixels are still there and were not removed. NOTE: The Photon File Validator has a 'pencil tool'! You can use it to connect a small island to the rest or you can just erase the island if the next layer has a good connection to the rest. Just click on the red spot and a zoomed in view appears and you can edit the layer. However, if you use the 'pencil tool' to edit, use it as a final step. The steps to take when using Photon File Validator: 1) Open, scale and position your model in Chitubox 2) add supports manually 3) slice model and save 4) open the sliced data into The Photon File Validator 5) run auto fix (this doesn't remove those pixels from your model sitting in Chitubox) 6) go through the remaining layers one at a time and skip over those layers for now that you can fix with the pencil tool later. 7) otherwise add supports to your model where needed by going back and forth between Chitubox and the File Validator. 8) once you have added all the supports, slice the model and Save. 9) now, open the new sliced file in The Photon File Validator. 10) run auto fix again 11) go through the remaining layers that need fixing and edit those with the pencil tool. 12) should be done at this point. NOTE that these edits don't change the model you have open in Chitubox. 13) so you need to save and use the The Photon File Validator file to print from. On any printer?...no idea.
Very helpful video, I just got into 3d printing about 2 weeks ago and I was printing a whole lot of support using the automatic chitubox support option. It's so nice to now know how to support correctly!
About to get my first 3D printer ever, an Elegoo Mars, and this video is definitely one I can see being of great help in moving forward into this new hobby. Thanks so much for your hard work. 👍😁👍
If you have some exotic printer that isn't supported by Chitubox (e.g. a Photon S with the new firmware that only supports .pws), you can slice as .cbddlp after tweaking printer dimensions, then *import it back* into Chitubox. It will rebuild a 3D model (made of cubes) from it, which you can then export as .stl for whatever slicer you have to use to get the final file. You can double or quadruple the horizontal resolution for better precision or if you want to use anti-aliasing for the final slicing. Alternatively, you can export an .stl right away (after adding supports and all that), but e.g. Photon Workshop is said to not like the hollowing that Chitubox does.
Trying this now and works very well. After fixing all islands, I re-slice and re-loaded into the Photo File Validator again to confirm the support additions actually went into the correct position and it reports zero islands detected.
this is great! i just printed a bust of Halo's Master Chief on a Phrozen Sonic Mini with your technique and it turned out REALLY well. thanks for the tips!
This video has been invaluable! Im leaving FDM printing for models and switching to resin, and boy oh boy its a whole new ball game but this video answered SO many questions. I literally have to think about uncured resin getting stuck in the print - wow. But its half the fun learning these technique's and mastering their application. Im slicing while I wait for the printer in the mail.
I work with industrials 3D printers like EOS, 3D Systems and such with various powder based materials. I like how you went through and showed how to minimize supports. Over supporting models can cause issues as well since you are using so much more resin, time, and clean up. I just recently got my own resin printer, Elegoo Saturn 8K and ran a pre supported model and it came off easy but I saw missing features here and there. very informative video even though its a few years old. :D
After a day of failed prints (stuck to the FEP) this was great, I learned so much, (i also ordered PTFE spray). Thank you! Can't wait to try again tomorrow!
@@andreafreeman6396 I got it to work with and without the spray, it was a matter of getting the right settings, and using NFEP, only fails i have to deal with now are my own (i.e. bad supports)
@@Metroidf4n Nice! Well that’s helpful to know . I’m new to this so I still have to dial everything in, but similar to you, I’m dealing with FEP adhesion. I’m going to take it back to square one and try re-leveling the bed or a longer bottom exposure time. :) Hoping that works! Thanks!
Would like to see another option for supports that aren't just vertical. Some of the models seem they would do well with tangential supports from side of other strut rather than a single stand that starts at bottom of print.
Great video! Showed me not only how to use the Photon Validator for other printers, buy also that I am using waaaaaay too much supports... no wonder I've never had a failure so far (just finished my firsts 500 cc of resin, about 25 models printed in different sizes.
Thank you for this excellent video. It really helped me to learn about islands and how to properly support my models since I'm new to resin printing. So far I've gotten several successful prints. You've earned a like and a new subscriber, quality content here.
It's worth noting that the current release build of Photon Validator is a bit dated. The source code has significant updates to autofix islands. If you have a friend that knows how to compile code it's worth grabbing the latest source and using that.
The problem is that you can't really determine the suction force and if you don't have enough supports, the print could fail. But making models hollow can help.
Will the file validator run chitubox ver. 7? Aaaaaand, I went to the link and I'm not sure how to download it to my laptop. I'm a big-time beginner in all things computers and printing. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I mean I don't even know how to rename files or how to change them. I just ordered a photon mono se and am still waiting on it. which is why I am trying to learn as much as possible before it gets here. your channel is really informative and I'm so glad I found it. Please for the love of god help. That is if you have the time and understand my question. The file validator looks most like something I will need. Thanks for taking the time to read this and have a blessed day. ----Anxious Newbie Printer and Computer enthusiast
Just got a Resin Printer because I need to make parts that are strong in all directions. Any chance you would make Resin 3D Printer Videos about: 1) Comparison of Plant Based,Water Washable, or Eco Resins 2) Comparison of Cleaning Products for the Eco Resins. 3) Comparison of Ultrasonic Cleaners vs Mixing type Cleaners with different cleaning products for the Eco Resins. 4) Curing Time & Hardness with different Wavelengths of Lights. ex. LED Grow Lights 600nm red / 450nm blue vs the Recommended 405nm violet.
@@ArchangelRazia Yes the Prusa slicer is very good. best way is slicing in prusa export with supports to chitubox, than Photon File Validator. Maybe in 1 of 10 you will find a area with more than one pixel.
Thanks for this, but I have a question. If you don't save your product through the PFV, then all pertinent fixes it made to reduce your number of islands are not fixed and still there. For me and my EPAX, I follow your method. But in the end of fixing, I still send the ChiTu files back through PFV and fix the ones I personally didn't support due to PFV's initial fixes. Doesn't this make sense?
So as I understand it; the Photon File Validator has a mechanism which fixes minor (1px) errors automatically but it cannot fix the larger ones. So you run the validator, it finds ALL errors, it fixes MINOR errors (leaving major ones) and then you go back to ChiTuBox and support those major errors (leaving the minor ones, which aren't a serious issue) in place?
You should put a hole at the beginning of the print so you don't create a vacuum/suction and lessen the force required to separate the model from the FEP during the print.
Question from a new printer: It looks like chitubox has an island detector function when slicing. What's the benefit to using the photon file validator (or UV tools) instead of what chitubox has to offer?
i think the holes are not necessary like that. Since the piece is built upside down, you only need to put some smaller holes at the top of ears, head and horns. During the print the resin will have time to flow out, without needing to mutilate the print like that. In this case it can be acceptable since there is a back side of the mask, but it is not the case in general.
Thanks for this. Very helpful, although isn't this just the same workflow from your first video? The only difference is that you don't save and reimport the file, but otherwise you're going through the same steps within the validator, or am I missing something? Edit: seems like you just have to run the Fix twice and everything works fine.
Thanks! I was publishing this as an update from my previous video I did 6 months ago... I have had lots of questions and just wanted to get it out there to the masses!
3DPrintFarm not a criticism buddy - it’s a great video and covers in detail the workflow really well (much more user friendly than a wall of text on Facebook ) 👍
I always had problems with the File Validator step until tonight. I have a 4k monitor and need to use the UI scaling, but that didn't play nice with the little popup that shows up in ChituBox that shows exactly what layer you're on, usually cutting off the bottom 7/8th's of the layer number. Quick tip for people using ChituBox (hence now referred to as CTB because laziness), on a 4k monitor and use Window's UI scaling: Navigate to your installation file for CTB, find the executable (.exe) file, right click and go to properties. In the window that pops up, look for and click on the "Compatibility" tab. Close to the bottom of that page should be a button that says "Change high DPI settings", click it. When the new window pops up, close to the bottom of that window just check the "Override High DPI scaling behavior." checkbox There's a dropdown menu below it labelled something like "Scaling performed by:", change it to be either the "System" or "System (Enhanced)" option. Now the layer numbers display perfectly! :D Thanks again mate, I really love this channel and it's completely underrated for the value it's provided. You're the first channel I refer people to when they tell me they're just starting out in 3d printing.
So these supports are stronger than one would assume? IE If I suspend an average sized 4 sided die to a raft and it gets 12 medium supports, it should in theory hold, specially considering it's a smaller print? I would normally just try and print it directly to the bed but most if not all people printing with SLA seem to mention ALWAYS using supports and not directly printing to the bed.
you can also go to the hamburger menu on the top left corner and click on Save As, then under File Type select All Files, then just remove the file ext from the file name and add .cbddlp in its place and viola!
How bad is it to use the auto-support function in chitubox? It’s always worked great for me. Sometimes I can even go in and delete some of them, but most of the time I don’t have to. What am I missing here? Or is it just kind of a prestige thing?
I'd love to adopt this workflow, but every time I load a certain file, PFV freezes during the "Fix" procedure. Even after 30 minutes of just letting it sit, "OK" never becomes clickable. I can't tell if it has something to do with the file, a bad PFV install or user error on my part.
Great video and workflow - but your title is a little misleading - it doesn't work with ANY resin printer. I have a Elfin 2 NOVA 3D printer... hopefully Chitubox will support my printer one day.
Hi! Ordered a Photon Mono today and never before had a resin printer in my hands.. Did you have a video where every setting is a little bit described? Like off time, bottom layer time .. Kind regards
just a question the support of the "eyelid" why did you choose to have it standing on the model and not from an angle really far away? Is this better practise or not?
Why if I slice the file, open in Photon File Validator, correct in chitubox and then slice again and re-open it in Photon I get new errors? Does every slice is different from the others?
Awesome video! How do you know where the number is, look for an island? When you said, 503, here is 504, was that because you saw the island or was there something to lead you to that area? I've had one I can't find the island for nothing....Thanks!!
One question I have is why do most people printing with resin not print with internal supports (honeycomb?) is it primarily to save resin or will that method generally fail in resin?
I have a Creality 002R. I did as you suggested and chose Elegoo Mars. Brought the file in and tried saving it and it didn’t have the ddlp file, just Chitubox.
Why doesn't the slicing software use a built in validator to create automatic supports following the same workflow? It seems obvious that the way to place supports is post slicing. So why doesn't slicing software take that approach to begin with?
I seem to keep getting lines in my prints , I’m using an elegoo Mars pro2 . Hi do I fix this ? Any advice would be so helpful as I’m burning through resin and every print has lines , please help.
Hey Printfarm, thanks for this helpful Video! But there is one open question for me: What's happening with all these unsupported 1-pixel islands. That will be cured in the vat, right? Is ther any problems with it after time? Thanks for your help! Keep up the good work. Greetings Mike
I do this as well but I am having a ridiculous time with a cube! Just a 6 sided dice. I had to go to a heavy support at the tip surrounded by heavy supports around that in order to even keep the tip of the dice. Other things seems to print fine, but a 6 sided dice give me nightmares.
Nice workflow Gareth. It's a bit time consuming but it gets you there! Though for your support strategy, YOU ARE ALL WRONG! Let me explain... IT IS NOT ENOUGH to just support the islands!!!! For example, in this mask, the chin is leaning toward the back and is supported by just a few struts. Because of the piling force between the FEP film and the model, the torque from the resulting force x leaver will nock off your model!!! Therefore YOU DON'T PUT THE SUPPORT ONLY TO AVOID ISLANDS... BUT ALSO TO PREVENT THE PILLING FORCE TO NOCK OF YOUR MODEL. Check the Garet's proposed support of the horns. From the very end of horns just before the next support is attached the pilling will produce such a torque that that very slender support will not be able to handle! I guess Gareth just meant to show us the island solution in this example. Which is valid! But keep in mind The supports are NOT only for islands. This is especially true if you want to make something dimensionally sound. In this case, you want to prevent deformation hance you MUST put much more supports to get those dimensions right!
sorry i saw it only now and i wrote something very similar a few comments above... i am not expert but the few printing experiences i made lead to me to the same conclusions. I totally agree with you
Did you not watch the video through? He printed it just fine, despite your ALL CAPS insistence that it would be impossible. Maybe watch the video before commenting next time? That might help prevent any embarrassment.
What software is the best to download for a diy laser cutter machine. I've had it for a couple of month but been hesitant cus iam not sure which one to download.
Can I use this process if I only have an anycubic mono X ? It only saves in like a pmwc format or something , not sure if that will open in the validation program
QUESTION ON FILE VALIDATOR: I have Java installed and am launching Photon File Validator using the latest .jar file - the app launches fine, but when I try to open either a Chitubox project file OR a .STL, nothing happens. The app doesn't crash; it just acts like I selected no file to open. What am I doing wrong? Sorry to ask here; I can't seem to find help from the devs anywhere. =( Thanks - great info! Subscribed... =)
Do you HAVE to have the settings set to Elegoo Mars? I only own the Photon S and don't have any settings for the Mars, nor were there any presets included in Chitubox when I downloaded it. I can't get the Photon File Validator working with how I'm currently slicing and saving things with the Photon S settings. The PFV is stuck in a perpetual 'loading file'. Unless theres something that I've failed to download and install along with the program I'm completely lost.
That was massively helpful!!! Finally less guess work and more of a point by point analysis, I feel better already, awesome job! :)
Nothing like learning from someone who shares his knowledge in such an amazing way!
Dude. I've been 3D printing for over 10 years with FDM. Last year, I got my first resin printer, and I've all but given up on it because of all the failed prints and lack of true understanding of supports. Well, I've watched TONS of videos and still never grasped the full concept of it. That was, until your video. THANK YOU for breaking this down like this. I actually left here UNDERSTANDING how supports are used in resin prints. I'm going to fire her up tomorrow morning and give it a go! Thank you again, for this amazing, very well taught lesson on supports!
There's another reason for hole punching a hollow object and that is to allow for breathing during the printing process. When the hollow print lifts from the fep it might have to fight extra vacuum within the hollow room. Punching a small hole close to the build plate will allow breathing and relieve any vacuum pressure. :) Just wanted to share that
If you run 'auto fix' in Photon File Validator, that fix doesn't carry over to your model, so when you do the final slice of the model, those pixels are still there and were not removed.
NOTE: The Photon File Validator has a 'pencil tool'! You can use it to connect a small island to the rest or you can just erase the island if the next layer has a good connection to the rest. Just click on the red spot and a zoomed in view appears and you can edit the layer. However, if you use the 'pencil tool' to edit, use it as a final step.
The steps to take when using Photon File Validator:
1) Open, scale and position your model in Chitubox
2) add supports manually
3) slice model and save
4) open the sliced data into The Photon File Validator
5) run auto fix (this doesn't remove those pixels from your model sitting in Chitubox)
6) go through the remaining layers one at a time and skip over those layers for now that you can fix with the pencil tool later.
7) otherwise add supports to your model where needed by going back and forth between Chitubox and the File Validator.
8) once you have added all the supports, slice the model and Save.
9) now, open the new sliced file in The Photon File Validator.
10) run auto fix again
11) go through the remaining layers that need fixing and edit those with the pencil tool.
12) should be done at this point. NOTE that these edits don't change the model you have open in Chitubox.
13) so you need to save and use the The Photon File Validator file to print from. On any printer?...no idea.
Very helpful video, I just got into 3d printing about 2 weeks ago and I was printing a whole lot of support using the automatic chitubox support option. It's so nice to now know how to support correctly!
About to get my first 3D printer ever, an Elegoo Mars, and this video is definitely one I can see being of great help in moving forward into this new hobby.
Thanks so much for your hard work. 👍😁👍
The most complete video on the topic ! Clear, step by step and even explaining that not every printer in Chitubox save in .ctbldb ! THANKS
I love how when he does the clicks for the holes, he slams the button like he is punching the holes in by hand xD
LMFAO damn mechanical keyboards!
Lol
If you have some exotic printer that isn't supported by Chitubox (e.g. a Photon S with the new firmware that only supports .pws), you can slice as .cbddlp after tweaking printer dimensions, then *import it back* into Chitubox. It will rebuild a 3D model (made of cubes) from it, which you can then export as .stl for whatever slicer you have to use to get the final file. You can double or quadruple the horizontal resolution for better precision or if you want to use anti-aliasing for the final slicing. Alternatively, you can export an .stl right away (after adding supports and all that), but e.g. Photon Workshop is said to not like the hollowing that Chitubox does.
So glad I found your channel I was getting super intimidated about using my anycubic until I started watching your videos
Trying this now and works very well. After fixing all islands, I re-slice and re-loaded into the Photo File Validator again to confirm the support additions actually went into the correct position and it reports zero islands detected.
this is great! i just printed a bust of Halo's Master Chief on a Phrozen Sonic Mini with your technique and it turned out REALLY well. thanks for the tips!
I'm new to resin 3D printing and this was so helpful and well explained! Makes setting up supports feel a lot less daunting. Great video
This video has been invaluable! Im leaving FDM printing for models and switching to resin, and boy oh boy its a whole new ball game but this video answered SO many questions. I literally have to think about uncured resin getting stuck in the print - wow. But its half the fun learning these technique's and mastering their application. Im slicing while I wait for the printer in the mail.
OMGosh! That was some of the most helpful information I've across as a novice. Subscribed!! Thank you so much!
I work with industrials 3D printers like EOS, 3D Systems and such with various powder based materials. I like how you went through and showed how to minimize supports. Over supporting models can cause issues as well since you are using so much more resin, time, and clean up. I just recently got my own resin printer, Elegoo Saturn 8K and ran a pre supported model and it came off easy but I saw missing features here and there. very informative video even though its a few years old. :D
After a day of failed prints (stuck to the FEP) this was great, I learned so much, (i also ordered PTFE spray).
Thank you! Can't wait to try again tomorrow!
Did you ever get it to work with the spray?
@@andreafreeman6396 I got it to work with and without the spray, it was a matter of getting the right settings, and using NFEP, only fails i have to deal with now are my own (i.e. bad supports)
@@Metroidf4n Nice! Well that’s helpful to know . I’m new to this so I still have to dial everything in, but similar to you, I’m dealing with FEP adhesion.
I’m going to take it back to square one and try re-leveling the bed or a longer bottom exposure time. :)
Hoping that works!
Thanks!
@@andreafreeman6396 good luck! all the effort you put in now will pay itself back later on. :)
I've had the Photon for a week now. Your videos have been very helpful. Thanks!
Thank you for making these tutorials! They are great for noobs like me!
Thanks much! Glad you enjoyed it!
Would like to see another option for supports that aren't just vertical. Some of the models seem they would do well with tangential supports from side of other strut rather than a single stand that starts at bottom of print.
I have given your work flow a run through for my photon zero and it works awesome. Thanks for the great advice.
Great video! Showed me not only how to use the Photon Validator for other printers, buy also that I am using waaaaaay too much supports... no wonder I've never had a failure so far (just finished my firsts 500 cc of resin, about 25 models printed in different sizes.
I did it once. Worked flawlessly. Nice 3D printing tips
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
Thank you for all the tutorials you've helped me start and not fail printing! Much appreciated!
This is sooooo freaking helpful! I just got a 3d resin printer, and this will make my life easier.
Thank you for this excellent video. It really helped me to learn about islands and how to properly support my models since I'm new to resin printing.
So far I've gotten several successful prints. You've earned a like and a new subscriber, quality content here.
Gave the same printer. I am from Russia and your videos really help. Soon there will be new videos from me.
Great démonstration of manual support.
A question about weight, so few support will stand the weight ?
Bravo for your video
In Photon validator, you can also click on the screen where the problem island is and manually remove them or add pixel by pixel
It's worth noting that the current release build of Photon Validator is a bit dated. The source code has significant updates to autofix islands. If you have a friend that knows how to compile code it's worth grabbing the latest source and using that.
Agreed! Thanks!
This is the video that i was looking for. Thanks for such a good explanation 👍👍
Very helpful! Thanks for teaching me how to do it properly, until now I was using the automatic support feature and it was too much!
Thanks for this tutorial. I print with waaaayyyy too many supports. I´ll try it your way!
The problem is that you can't really determine the suction force and if you don't have enough supports, the print could fail. But making models hollow can help.
BRAVO !!! all my questions about supports are answered in your video. Thanks a lot.
Will the file validator run chitubox ver. 7? Aaaaaand, I went to the link and I'm not sure how to download it to my laptop. I'm a big-time beginner in all things computers and printing. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I mean I don't even know how to rename files or how to change them. I just ordered a photon mono se and am still waiting on it. which is why I am trying to learn as much as possible before it gets here. your channel is really informative and I'm so glad I found it. Please for the love of god help. That is if you have the time and understand my question. The file validator looks most like something I will need. Thanks for taking the time to read this and have a blessed day. ----Anxious Newbie Printer and Computer enthusiast
That makes supports seem so much more doable. Thanks
Thanks for the tutorial. How do you supports the more complex models?
Mystery solved. Thank you. Confidence gone up 100%
Just got a Resin Printer because I need to make parts that are strong in
all directions. Any chance you would make Resin 3D Printer Videos about:
1) Comparison of Plant Based,Water Washable, or Eco Resins
2) Comparison of Cleaning Products for the Eco Resins.
3) Comparison of Ultrasonic Cleaners vs Mixing type Cleaners with different cleaning products for the Eco Resins.
4) Curing Time & Hardness with different Wavelengths of Lights. ex.
LED Grow Lights 600nm red / 450nm blue vs the Recommended 405nm violet.
I just bought photon, my first, printer, not used, but gathering information, so this will help
I'm surprised there isn't software that can automatically add a minimum amount of supports to just those island areas.
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@@RafaelCabreraAzrael Prusa Slicer does that
@@ArchangelRazia Yes the Prusa slicer is very good. best way is slicing in prusa export with supports to chitubox, than Photon File Validator. Maybe in 1 of 10 you will find a area with more than one pixel.
Thanks for this, but I have a question. If you don't save your product through the PFV, then all pertinent fixes it made to reduce your number of islands are not fixed and still there. For me and my EPAX, I follow your method. But in the end of fixing, I still send the ChiTu files back through PFV and fix the ones I personally didn't support due to PFV's initial fixes. Doesn't this make sense?
You rock! Farmer + 3D printing coach, how fantastic is THAT!? Thanks very much!
got a mars coming in the mail tomorrow, thanks for the guide
So as I understand it; the Photon File Validator has a mechanism which fixes minor (1px) errors automatically but it cannot fix the larger ones. So you run the validator, it finds ALL errors, it fixes MINOR errors (leaving major ones) and then you go back to ChiTuBox and support those major errors (leaving the minor ones, which aren't a serious issue) in place?
A Very informative video! One of the best ones on this subject I have watched yet. Thank You! :D
You should put a hole at the beginning of the print so you don't create a vacuum/suction and lessen the force required to separate the model from the FEP during the print.
Wonderful! Love how you've simplified it.
Question from a new printer: It looks like chitubox has an island detector function when slicing. What's the benefit to using the photon file validator (or UV tools) instead of what chitubox has to offer?
i think the holes are not necessary like that. Since the piece is built upside down, you only need to put some smaller holes at the top of ears, head and horns. During the print the resin will have time to flow out, without needing to mutilate the print like that. In this case it can be acceptable since there is a back side of the mask, but it is not the case in general.
Thanks for this. Very helpful, although isn't this just the same workflow from your first video? The only difference is that you don't save and reimport the file, but otherwise you're going through the same steps within the validator, or am I missing something? Edit: seems like you just have to run the Fix twice and everything works fine.
Now to get comfortable with how many supports are needed to prevent the model from separating from the supports.
Why not choose photon as printer and save in that format? The Photon-S can also read photon files with the latest firmware
Nice but i cant seem to get it to work with Chitubox 1.7.0 ... any ideas ?
thanks
This workflow has been described by plenty of people in the Mars Facebook groups for quite a while
Thanks! I was publishing this as an update from my previous video I did 6 months ago... I have had lots of questions and just wanted to get it out there to the masses!
3DPrintFarm not a criticism buddy - it’s a great video and covers in detail the workflow really well (much more user friendly than a wall of text on Facebook ) 👍
I always had problems with the File Validator step until tonight. I have a 4k monitor and need to use the UI scaling, but that didn't play nice with the little popup that shows up in ChituBox that shows exactly what layer you're on, usually cutting off the bottom 7/8th's of the layer number.
Quick tip for people using ChituBox (hence now referred to as CTB because laziness), on a 4k monitor and use Window's UI scaling:
Navigate to your installation file for CTB, find the executable (.exe) file, right click and go to properties.
In the window that pops up, look for and click on the "Compatibility" tab.
Close to the bottom of that page should be a button that says "Change high DPI settings", click it.
When the new window pops up, close to the bottom of that window just check the "Override High DPI scaling behavior." checkbox
There's a dropdown menu below it labelled something like "Scaling performed by:", change it to be either the "System" or "System (Enhanced)" option.
Now the layer numbers display perfectly! :D
Thanks again mate, I really love this channel and it's completely underrated for the value it's provided. You're the first channel I refer people to when they tell me they're just starting out in 3d printing.
So these supports are stronger than one would assume? IE If I suspend an average sized 4 sided die to a raft and it gets 12 medium supports, it should in theory hold, specially considering it's a smaller print? I would normally just try and print it directly to the bed but most if not all people printing with SLA seem to mention ALWAYS using supports and not directly printing to the bed.
Why you do not use infill option instead of inside support ?
you can also go to the hamburger menu on the top left corner and click on Save As, then under File Type select All Files, then just remove the file ext from the file name and add .cbddlp in its place and viola!
Great video! Can you get Chitubox anywhere close to the efficiency of your manual supports by tweaking the settings?
Which resin is best for direct casting for 405 nm dlp printer
How bad is it to use the auto-support function in chitubox? It’s always worked great for me. Sometimes I can even go in and delete some of them, but most of the time I don’t have to. What am I missing here? Or is it just kind of a prestige thing?
I'd love to adopt this workflow, but every time I load a certain file, PFV freezes during the "Fix" procedure. Even after 30 minutes of just letting it sit, "OK" never becomes clickable. I can't tell if it has something to do with the file, a bad PFV install or user error on my part.
Great walkthrough! 👍🏻
Did you ever try this with Lychee Slicer and UVTools ?
With any resin printer you could also name the file and at the end add .cbddlp extension
Photon File Validator should recognize it as well.
Where do we get this now? do you have an updated video how to install this?
That big happy face at the start of the vid tells me Im onto a winner
thanks mate....keep up the great work
Great video and workflow - but your title is a little misleading - it doesn't work with ANY resin printer. I have a Elfin 2 NOVA 3D printer... hopefully Chitubox will support my printer one day.
Hi!
Ordered a Photon Mono today and never before had a resin printer in my hands..
Did you have a video where every setting is a little bit described? Like off time, bottom layer time ..
Kind regards
just a question the support of the "eyelid" why did you choose to have it standing on the model and not from an angle really far away? Is this better practise or not?
Why if I slice the file, open in Photon File Validator, correct in chitubox and then slice again and re-open it in Photon I get new errors? Does every slice is different from the others?
Awesome video! How do you know where the number is, look for an island? When you said, 503, here is 504, was that because you saw the island or was there something to lead you to that area? I've had one I can't find the island for nothing....Thanks!!
One question I have is why do most people printing with resin not print with internal supports (honeycomb?) is it primarily to save resin or will that method generally fail in resin?
I have a Creality 002R. I did as you suggested and chose Elegoo Mars. Brought the file in and tried saving it and it didn’t have the ddlp file, just Chitubox.
Why doesn't the slicing software use a built in validator to create automatic supports following the same workflow? It seems obvious that the way to place supports is post slicing. So why doesn't slicing software take that approach to begin with?
So the software workflow should be temp slice, place supports as needed to remove errors, save support locations, and reslice.
Is there an updated version or another program that works with ctb files that the newer printers use?
Hello, could you possibly do a tutorial for UV Tools for the Mono X please? :)
It seems, that this method doesn't work with the new version of Chitubox.You can't export in the fileformat you were saying. Is there a Workaround?
I seem to keep getting lines in my prints , I’m using an elegoo Mars pro2 . Hi do I fix this ? Any advice would be so helpful as I’m burning through resin and every print has lines , please help.
Great video! Thank you! literally just unboxed my Elegoo Saturn, Doesnt the inside need supports?
Why when I try to save a file only can be saved in ctb and not the file you said here.
Hey Printfarm, thanks for this helpful Video!
But there is one open question for me: What's happening with all these unsupported 1-pixel islands. That will be cured in the vat, right? Is ther any problems with it after time?
Thanks for your help!
Keep up the good work.
Greetings Mike
dont you need to suport inside the model too?
I do this as well but I am having a ridiculous time with a cube! Just a 6 sided dice. I had to go to a heavy support at the tip surrounded by heavy supports around that in order to even keep the tip of the dice. Other things seems to print fine, but a 6 sided dice give me nightmares.
Nice workflow Gareth. It's a bit time consuming but it gets you there! Though for your support strategy, YOU ARE ALL WRONG! Let me explain... IT IS NOT ENOUGH to just support the islands!!!! For example, in this mask, the chin is leaning toward the back and is supported by just a few struts. Because of the piling force between the FEP film and the model, the torque from the resulting force x leaver will nock off your model!!! Therefore YOU DON'T PUT THE SUPPORT ONLY TO AVOID ISLANDS... BUT ALSO TO PREVENT THE PILLING FORCE TO NOCK OF YOUR MODEL.
Check the Garet's proposed support of the horns. From the very end of horns just before the next support is attached the pilling will produce such a torque that that very slender support will not be able to handle!
I guess Gareth just meant to show us the island solution in this example. Which is valid! But keep in mind The supports are NOT only for islands. This is especially true if you want to make something dimensionally sound. In this case, you want to prevent deformation hance you MUST put much more supports to get those dimensions right!
sorry i saw it only now and i wrote something very similar a few comments above... i am not expert but the few printing experiences i made lead to me to the same conclusions. I totally agree with you
Agreed, this won't print. And those are light supports too!
@@MarkHanford The printed model is shown at the end of the video.
Did you not watch the video through? He printed it just fine, despite your ALL CAPS insistence that it would be impossible. Maybe watch the video before commenting next time? That might help prevent any embarrassment.
sadly for the mars2Pro and the Saturn, the FileValidator does not work anymore, cause the Fileformat isnt supported...
It looks like Photon Validator doesn't support the newer Chitubox format .ctb. Is there any way to get around this issue?
I would like to know the same thing
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Can I use this process if I only have an anycubic mono X ? It only saves in like a pmwc format or something , not sure if that will open in the validation program
Do you need to have the model at an angle? Why not having it straight up?
QUESTION ON FILE VALIDATOR: I have Java installed and am launching Photon File Validator using the latest .jar file - the app launches fine, but when I try to open either a Chitubox project file OR a .STL, nothing happens. The app doesn't crash; it just acts like I selected no file to open.
What am I doing wrong? Sorry to ask here; I can't seem to find help from the devs anywhere. =(
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Do you HAVE to have the settings set to Elegoo Mars? I only own the Photon S and don't have any settings for the Mars, nor were there any presets included in Chitubox when I downloaded it. I can't get the Photon File Validator working with how I'm currently slicing and saving things with the Photon S settings. The PFV is stuck in a perpetual 'loading file'. Unless theres something that I've failed to download and install along with the program I'm completely lost.
Is there not a way to punch in the number/layer instead of using the bar method?
This method won't work for any printer with a bed size different form the mars. How do you do this for a Phrozen Transform?
What an elegant solution you've bring! Many thanks, man!
You can just set the Z-axis height setting in the support tab, instead of manually moving the base model.
thank you so much for your videos, they're perfect. Just facts and reasons, no fluff.
Is the TL;DR version to save as a .cbddlp file then open in photon vile validator?
whoa, why doesnt everyone do it this way. nice video