How to Become a Faster Mountain Biker - MTB Skills with Lee Likes Bikes
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
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I have just watched this again 4 years after it first came out. The amount of things that have now become more clear with the time that has passed is incredible.
wow. just. wow. Amazing video. Thanks guys. Now if you could do 20 minutes on each of the topics you covered, I might never have to watch another mtb tips video again.
I have been mtb riding since 1986. Started on a rigid Rockhopper with 1.95 Ground Control tires. Fast forward to today and I’m riding a modern full squishy 29er.
This video has been profound!!! Thank you guys for making me realize how much more I can improve!
Awesome video guys! Here is my guess on what is in your cups:
Jonathan: Water.
Nate: Tart cherry juice mixed with the tears of mountain goats and blended at 6,000 ft by a Peruvian Shaman.
Chad: Beer
How nice that you had the recourses to have a session with Lee.
We're grateful and veeeery luck to have gotten so much valuable help from Lee! :)
I had watched this a few years ago and I think its one of the most helpful videos I've ever watched about mtb skills. Lots of epiphanies in here.
More videos like this. Mountain bike riding techniques!
One big thing they missed is to never brake in corners. You can carry way more speed if you get your braking done before the corner because you will have more traction.When braking while cornering, you are losing some grip form your tires because they are being pulled in multiple directions.
After sooooo many podcasts I've listened to...it's good to finally see you guys together in one vid.
This was well-presented and extremely helpful video. Several of the insights have me itching to get on my bike and try them out. Thank you, TrainerRoad and Lee Likes Bikes.
Wow, I’ve been riding for years, watched all sorts of tip videos, took the advanced classes at Northstar, and never really thought about these techniques in the way you guys described it. Awesome, thank you! Will try this stuff tomorrow at Soquel Demo Forest.
Ive been doing this row for years seen a video from a traner in England who showed how to row over rocks and roots going up hill
Now i need to learn how to anti row
Wow! I feel like I should have paid for this. I'm going to keep these tips in mind. I just got a new bike and have been struggling to dial it in but I can tell when I have a moment of flow. Most of the time I'm hammering through but not using any technic.
Excellent video. Sign me up!
This video helped me a ton today on a technical descent just adapting the hip hinge and loading the hips and feet to off load the quads.
anyone else see the BKXC gloves?..:D
Educated eye is key. Love the video. I’m a big Lee fan. Been trying to wheelie. Getting there. Managed to video myself and found bent arms so that’s key to improving. Still hard to correct. I could spot that myself but there’s loads I will miss
Wow excellent video and extremely helpful. I'm an intermediate rider , but what I found so helpful was the body position and the row-antirow. As an long time skier the parts on braking , weighting and unweighting and flow really resonated , like doing a bump run .
Loved it! Need to watch it 10more times
Interesting to hear the bit about the braking, as that's the same with race cars on a track too. The better drivers brake much later and much harder.
I took two classes from Lee and it was fantastic, a huge game-changer for me. Looking for a bike upgrade do this instead and upgrade your skills much better return on investment.
Thank you Rob!!
@@lee_likes_bikes any time.
Great video. I picked up some nuances to the different techniques that I did not grasp in Lee’s videos. Thanks 🤘
Guys, this is super useful (even as an XC rider) I will need to watch this a few times to unpack, but only because there is so much in there...
It's so great to hear you're finding useful takeaways :) Ride on!
Great video!
Thanks Jeff! That means a lot coming from you.
Great video guys, thank you so much 🤩🤩🤩
Great Video!!!! Body positioning has always been my downfall... It's the little things we do that make us way faster on the trails... BTW... sound and video quality are fantastic....
Thanks for the video!!
Alright, can't wait to try this on my....2nd MTB ride ever lol
Best video on this topic, awesome just like your podcasts (yes, MTB Podcast too)! The only better is to attend Lee’s coaching clinic...
Wow such a good Video, please more of these mtb videos!
5:45 initiate from the hips
Great video! I'm glad that I already do all of these. And so funny that Jonathan Lee is part of trainer road. I first heard him on the PulpMX show
Added to favorites. Added to "watch later" too, because I'll be coming back to this video for reference in the near future.
So glad that we could give you some solid actionable tips! Thanks for watching :)
Such a great video! I've taken Lee's coaching clinics and am a much better rider because of him.
Nice video dudes. Great to see someone put those moves into words that the average rider can understand. The row/anti-row concept is spot on!
Superb segment guys, truly mindblowing stuff
Such a well done video, guys, from content to production; chapeau! As a rider who started as a teen in mtb, raced xc, dh, 4x, then got into road and finally, cyclocross, I’ve struggled a bit with crossing mtb skill into cx. I used to crash so much from pushing the limits constantly. I’ve definitely deployed the row as a standard movement pathway for a long time, but never thought about it quite like that, and I think this will help me as I try to coach my son and others. The big thing I’m struggling with lately is ‘undoing’ my mtb bunny hop technique in order to adapt to hopping cx barriers. I can do the height without issue, but the shape of them freaks me out compared to logs or rocks. The sea-saw technique just doesn’t come naturally. Perhaps you guys could do another video later on application of the principles in this one, crossed over into cx context, with nuanced adaptations? I realize the bunny hop is a pretty advanced move in particular, but I see value in riders learning small ones at least, as they are important for all-round safe bike riding, even commuting! It would be really awesome to see insights from really fast riders on how to extract maximum speed from cx tracks. I feel I’m leaving some opportunities on the table, and I know the majority of riders are.
Tnx for this video guys. It' revolutionary for MTB world. ( :
@ 2:47
Damn near replicated the stance/movement of a Romanian Deadlift (barbell or dumbbell) which specifically targets your hammies. I def. hit that exercise on leg days and it gets me sore.
Thanks! This is the best body mechanics video for mtb, that I've seen.
When Lee demonstrates the proper hinge technique alignment I am reminded of a good leg-shooter's wrestling stance. That pinged a major light bulb in my head. When a wrestler lines up in that stance "get ready". Thanks!
I see these concepts being really easy when the seat has been lowered, as everyone in the video
Trying to do this with a standard seat height would be key
Baby steps! ;)
Just started listening to Ask a Cycling Coach Podcast. I’m working my way through the back catalog. This is the first video I’ve watched. For some reason, I pictured you guys wearing lab coats.
Haha we only wear lab coats while recording the podcast ;)
More videos like this!! Love the podcast and the app!
Great to see TR on my old stomping grounds! Great Vid!
4:45 Row & Anti-Row
If you're in that position where he's in a semi-squat and the bars are pushed all the way forward, you're either on a bike with a 300mm stack height and 700mm reach or going over the bars/dead sailor. The Riprow looks great and if I had the cash I'd buy one but the degree of movement is massively exaggerated.
well thats the point with any sport in practice is over exaggeration in technique and drills. NEVER go half way, train the brain and body to over exaggerate any movement and when in the actual competition you do well. Like I won titles in basketball, records for three point shooting. In practice, unless a specific drill dictates otherwise, you follow through with your shooting hand/arm/wrist aka ' reach into the cookie jar' until the ball at least hit the net if not the floor.
Lavars Balls would Practicing 3-pointers 10 feet back from the line make you shoot at the line better? No. It’s going to ruin your muscle memory for where the 3 line is. The same with exaggerating movements. You’ll expect it to be that bad and then things go wrong. You’re not throwing a ball at this point, you’re throwing your body. I’d rather know how to do the motions how they SHOULD be done
Well I guess we differ in opinion of the motions being that exaggerated then. I would equal it with shooting 4-5ft behind the line which is about max Steph Curry tries take in game.
Lavars Balls hey, at the end of the day, as long as your happy with what you’re doing right?
The exaggeration training method works with most muscle memory based concepts as it helps fight against the hindered movements from being tired to full of adrenaline. We tend to shorten our movements during "game time". Also, over exaggerating your movements during practice uses more strength and flexibility and thus grants more of both during performance. This is a great topic and great vid.
Steppin it back lightly
Really helpful video. The row vs. anti-row really made sense and is simple, but I never thought of it that way before. Thank you!
Looking forward to concentrating on these tips come spring. Great stuff. The discussion and demonstrations really nailed it.
Great vid!! Just wish Lee was based in Scotland - I’d be signed up right now.
Rory Macdonald : me too.
You can do it online on LeeLikesBikes site, i did it for a month and improvement was insane. But also, it all depends mostly on you, how serious you want to start practicing and take your time to change old bad habits, to new good ones. ( :
excellent information , here in Canada it will soon time to get the bike out,, thanks , Feb 28th 2018
fantastic video. many thanks!
This is great guys. Thank you!
Thanks for this, guys. Great stuff!
Outstanding content, guys. There's lots of valuable information there, especially from your insights and interpretations on the topics.
I just noticed I'd already seen this two years ago. It's still as valuable now as it was back then. Good refresher!
So glad you found it helpful!! Ride on :)
Such a great video. You guys are doing it right.
Phenomenal video. This will be watched many times. Subscribed.
Great video, highly informative.
FANTASTIC video, very helpful! Thanks guys!!
Base position=do yoga.
The amount of power and balance that I have gained over doing about 30mins a day for the last 4months is incredible.
And I found the base position thing and so much more just by doing yoga, before that I was just shitty rider.
I love the BKXC gloves!! Cool tutorial Subscribed!!
awesome info. really good gems for mental notes to take here thanks !
Great video! Thank you. This was extremely helpful.
More or this! Really excited about riprow
Very good guys!! Thanks 🙏 😎😃
very helpful! thank you.
This really helps a lot guys!
just awesome, thanks guys
Great discussion!
So, so helpful.
I love to this video. core bike skill!
Love watching long-time roadies with no bike handling skills on MTBs...
Not everyone is born a mountainbiker. I grew up, trained and socialized with roadies (who accepted me, even with my MTB and slick tyres) and I raced xc - and a lot of these tips are very helpful for the folks who want to discover the amazing way trails go coming from the tarmac, or the ones trying their hand with this gravel thing...
At about 3:30 or so, he is on the Rip-Row showing the forward/backward weighting. The problem with the demo is that it's on a fixed top deck that doesn't accurately match a bike.
A bike has pedals, mounted to cranks, mounted to a bottom bracket, and that is all is free to spin about the center of the BB.
The load is always through the BB, not on the front or rear foot as shown on the R-R. It's not a realistic comparison between the bike and R-R.
Any difference in weight distribution on the tires comes from the shift in the hips and torso and their impact on the bars and BB (via the related chain).
Chad, thank you for your comment. While the RipRow deck doesn't behave exactly like a set of cranks and pedals, the RipRow does a very good job of teaching the proper balance and alignment. When you're balanced, you know it. Once you're in the right alignment, you can teach yourself to generate big forces -- while staying balanced, which is a huge part of riding.
I've taught hundred of riders using the RipRow (including Jonathan, Nate and Chad at TrainerRoad), and the pace of learning is profound. I'd love to train you on the machine.
Lee
www.leelikesbikes.com
PS: Previous designs included cranks and pedals, but the complication and cost were higher than the benefit. Hence the current design.
I never meant to imply that the training was really incorrect. I'm sure the concept applies, but it is just an odd conclusion considering the reality on the bike. As an engineer, I always look way deep into these cool tools.
I also know that I could always stand to learn. 20+ years of Moto, Trials, MTB, BMX, Road and others all help, but everyone can always improve.
Love how you dig deep into these things Chad! You're our people. :)
Something that we noticed is that if we placed more weight on the front or rear foot, the RipRow's deck becomes imbalanced and the whole thing leans to one side or another. Although it seems pretty straightforward, the rounded shape of the base requires a lot of balance work while performing the movments.
I'm great at over-analyzing stuff sometimes, for better or worse ;)
Looks like you guys got some great training. I want to try one of those clinic some day.
Chad, circling back to this. When we shred, we need to drive the net force (gravity + braking + bumps + cornering + etc) directly into our bottom bracket, at a right angle to the cranks. When you RipRow with your feet level and your weight driving into the main pivot, you're training this pattern ... and it becomes your default when you shred a real bike.
@trainerroad, do you guys know if Lee does 'skills camps' or 'training camps' over the winter months? If he doesn't he should. If not Lee, perhaps you could suggest some other technique camps, etc
Good work!
Mega video. Top content, as always. :-)
great vid
Im 5 foot 5 will this be good for me?
@TrainerRoad - Great video! Just a heads up that the first link in your description for "Get started today" points to traineroad.com (you're missing an "r")
DC I suggest having a text file with info, links and just copy & paste. Then this won't happen.
Nice! Tnx!
N A T E !!
Very interesting indeed
Thanks for watching!
The row/anti-row takes massive watts - in my case anyway.
God, I have sooo much to learn...
So good 👍
No issues with assembly for me ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L but I could see where some might benefit from using an experienced bike assembler/mechanic. I'm an older rider starting back after a 10 year break. This bike exceeds my capabilities and has been easy to get comfortable riding. I'm mostly on easy trails with almost no street riding and have not been disappointed with the performance of the bike. My fitness level is far below what I previously rode with and because of that the mileage is going on the bike slowly. While I'm losing weight slowly, the bike seems to tolerate my 220 pounds just fine. The bike has been used by several family members ranging from 5'5" - 5'9".
Anti-rowing going off of a drop, however, just looks so wrong to my eye, especially on a flat landing (as it seems to angle the front wheel dangerously downward so you land hard front wheel first- not a great idea on a flat landing)
Agreed. This technique may be useful for going over a roller or a continuous drop, but in a situation where a rider is going over a real drop, or one larger than the ones shown here, the anti-row method would be wrong and downright dangerous. Driving through the pedals and lifting the front wheel is a much safer and better method for bigger drops or ones with flat landings.
@@TrainerRoad
Thnx for replying.
I also discovered, after 35 years of riding, that the best "default" riding position involves leaning forward only about 45°, not making upper torso parallel to the ground as, I think, Lee suggested; however, if you ever really do need to get "parallel" in really fast, steep descents, be sure to move your butt way back over rear axle. "Deep hinging" would always seem to necessitate moving the weight backward.
But what do you think ?
Body position, especially in rough sections, starts from the feet and moves up. Focus on keeping your heels down, knees behind your pedals, and moving back will take care of itself.
@@TrainerRoad Great idea
Can I apply this to cyclocross?
Do some cyclocross stuff!
Keep an eye out come CX season! #cxiscoming
Like for Lee’s bikes please
More quantum physics in mtb! I like this! :D
All I see is an infomercial for the ripflow. Also, the bottom bracket isn’t the “center of the bike”. Get a tape measure, numbers don’t lie. Also, what’s good for one person and terrain, isn’t good for another. Find a pump track and learn what works best for you. Period.
That's true ... bottom brackets have been migrating farther and farther toward the back of the bike. But the bottom bracket is still the fulcrum of the bike.
Nate’s bike is too small, he needs to go up one size.
They don't make bigger bikes than that :(.
BKXC gloves cheeeee :)
Analysis by paralysis o_0
45 tri geeks watched this video.
This looks like a show of Ophra, or some meeting of people on a drug recovery program, talkimg in a completly timed and and pre-established format about their problems, feelings, and solutions. Too unreal for the european public, sorry. You could be talking this way about politics, some medical issue, fisics, or discussing about some filosophical matter. But this is mountain biking, a fun and free sport, mainly invented to make life even more spicy. I got bored of such a tv show like scetch.
This is free!!! how about appreciating it?
@@namastokewithleemccormack9692 even if things are free, it" s not allways a pleasure to consume it. My response is free too... You can either take it in account or dispose it. Wish you all a nice day anyway.
Great tips thanks!!