34:20 “ would you not be safer if you jumped into the water away from all the debris” the sad truth is if they jumped into the water too soon they would have a greater risk of freezing to death before help arrived so the best chance of survival was to stay on the ship long as possible also I imagine a large number of people couldn’t swim 😢
The water was freezing, which means that the average person would be dead in 15-30 minutes of hypothermia. That's the real danger in cold water, so even if you have a life preserver. it wouldn't matter, as your body temperature would gradually drop and kill you.
@@Finians_Mancave The water temperature that night was 28 degrees Fahrenheit. You freeze to death very quickly and it would also be painful at first with as Jack described, would feel like you were being cut by thousands of knives, before you would become numb.
@@Netscape-kd6mg definitely, that's just the adjustment for inflation. Add that to things that are outrageously priced today and it's probably closer to $1000 value.
@nguvideos2868 I think a third-class ticket was $35 to start a new life in America. $20 would go a long way, especially for someone who was starting a new life. Cal was very generous.
Considering this happened in 1912, a single ounce of gold was redeemable for exactly $20. So Jack was offered a single ounce of gold so it's almost $2700 today.
THANK YOU, especially as a first time watcher for understanding that it was a case that they were too heavy for the door frame, not that it wasn’t big enough, I’m very impressed!
The fact that she understands/explained the basic function of a steam engine gave me hope that she understands enough about physics to get the door dilemma, too 😊
Yes , plus they were freezing and when you are freezing that much your muscles do not work properly. (get so irritated on myth busters that tried to say otherwise )
The Old Couple at 34:05 is Isador and Ida Strauss. They were featured in a deleted scene. Their love story is the truest of all of Titanic. They were a real couple. When Ida was offered a seat as the women were. But she refused to leave her husband. The husband was offered a seat. But he refused because he didn't want to go before any other man. So the couple decided together to stay behind. Both perished that night.
you know, people need to stop apologizing for sincerity. I fucking hate how cynical we all have become in this modern time. You felt real emotion watching this and you don't need to apologize for it or make a joke about it.
@TheHessian123 Speaking of lookouts, Murdoch may have spotted the iceberg before or simultaneously before the phone call from Fleet and Lee and may have made a mental decision prior. He was taking a special watch on the starboard bridge wing that night. With the cold air mirage, Murdoch may have been able to see a silhouette better at his vantage point as Fleet and Lee were overhead. After all, he knew to turn hard-a-starboard. Also, they're saying they had 37 seconds to react, but reacting also means making a decision to turn and stop the ship. I don't think Murdoch did that blindly.
@@Chris-vk2zwalso, so many people think (since the movie implies) that the lookouts would have used binoculars to see the burgs. That simply is not true.
@Zamiroh Right, and Reginald Lee said that the haze was so bad that he couldn't see the iceberg in time. He didn't describe it as fog, so he must have been describing the mirage effect. He said that this haze lifted and that he could spot a light on the horizon. Fredrick Fleet also testified to this. Lee was asked if binoculars may have helped. Lee said he thought it was feasible but that there was a debate about that. My friend Michael was a Naval sailor and said that binoculars hinder peripheral vision because you zoom in on one area. Imagine doing that on a moonless night with haze. If an obstacle is spotted, you must give a warning to the bridge. Binoculars are used to identify that object, but the identification is not as important. The idea is that all obstacles are potentially dangerous. I also wonder if the two were keeping focus on what was ahead as they were looking for growlers and low-level ice on the surface. Could that have been a distraction?
@russelltofts3673 yes, I am aware. However, my point was that the binoculars would not be used to spot icebergs, even if they had them. The naked eye is much better for that.
The reason the Titanic was deemed unsinkable was because she’d been built with 16 watertight compartments, and she was able to stay afloat even with four of them being filled with water. No other ship of the time had this capability. Unfortunately the iceberg breached the front five which caused the water to spill over the watertight doors and well, the rest is history
One fault was that just the bulkhead doors was not enough. The tops were not covered, allowing water to spill over. Had they been covered, the water would've been contained, at least for a little while.
@@ronfehr7899 A common misunderstanding - modern ships don't seal the bulkhead tops, either. This would effectively cut off airflow and suffocate passengers in the entire compartment to death. Besides, it isn't how they work. Water flowing inside the ship can only flood as high as sea level outside the ship, and no higher - at this point, water pressure at the compromised area on the hull reaches the same water pressure as the ocean trying to flood inward in combination with the interior air pressure pushing back against the water. This cancels out the water pressure and the flooding stops completely, so your bulkhead tops only need to be higher than sea level, and they'll stop the flooding from progressing. Thus, every single ship naturally has a tipping point where so many flooded compartments add enough weight to pull the ship low enough to the point that the bulkhead tops fall below sea level. and this is where a ship's death sentence lies. For reference, take a look at the official Coast Guard report of the Monarch of the Seas, a perfectly good example of a modern ship. In the report, there's a cutaway diagram of her watertight compartments, and you'll note the bulkheads don't even reach halfway up the hull, whereas on Titanic, many of the bulkheads were nearly 3/4 of the way up the hull. Modern ships, on average, can handle 2 to 3 watertight compartments flooded in a row before sinking. Titanic could do 4, and her sisters Olympic (after Titanic sank) and Britannic, could do 6. Safety is relative. The reason Titanic sank wasn't because the bulkheads weren't sealed at the top, it was because 6 out of her 16 compartments in a row were taking on water.
The cold weather, and namely the icebergs, made the water more still than usual. And icebergs could often be identified by waves crashing against their bases. This happened to be a moonless night, so spotting an iceberg was made even more difficult.
In reality it was much darker. Anyone who had ever watched out to the ocean at night, would spot the difference. They made it all a lot brighter, so the iceberg would apear as some kind of black spot on the horizon.
The lack of wind made the water more still than usual. There was none that evening, hence the flat calm surface. There were no icebergs in the ship's vicinity besides the one they hit, as they were 3nm further South thanks to a delayed course adjustment.
@@thomasnieswandt8805 At that moment, it would be so dark that the sea would look like an empty void, with little difference between the sky and the ocean surface.
She did say that maybe they didn't have it. Not everyone knows exactly which time things were invented. Try to be more considerate of people instead of making fun of them
@@Rainienuabo I already knew that on those times the only people to have whistle were the crew members, you can also see it on the lifejackets they don't have it
It took me a while to realize that Kate Winslet was playing a American I always thought her, cal and her mother were English but then I realized they had transatlantic accents which is a hybrid between English and American
Yes, and those accents lasted for quite a while. Many Hollywood actors/actresses were enticed to use the accent in their film rooms as it sounded more clear and refined. This film was wrongfully criticized because critics felt the acting was a little over the top, but they failed to understand the period. The song "Come Josephine" was a hit pop song of early 1912. Cameron and his team did his homework.
Titanic is truly like a series of unfortunate events combined. They left the binoculars at their last stop, it was a moonless night, the ocean was flat, they were speeding, if they didn't try to turn and collide with the iceberg head-on they could stay afloat a lot longer- at least until a help arrives etc etc.. It's horrific. And what I love about this movie that, you kinda forget the ship sinks half-way of the movie and when the scene transitions into the wreck, you get reminded it of it.
If they had collided with the iceberg head-on, the ship most likely wouldn't have sunk at all. History has shown what happens to large ships that collided with static objects head on, and they stayed afloat, even returning to harbor under their own power. More than a hundred feet of the bow would have been smashed in, crushing hundreds of people to death, but the ship would have survived. But as they say, hindsight is 20/20. There was no way for the people steering to know this- and intentionally crashing the ship head-on into an iceberg would have gotten them all in serious trouble.
When Billy Zane threw the table and all the dishes aside, Kate didn’t know that he was going to do that, so her reaction was 100% genuine. Yes, Kate is English in real life. You’d have to watch an English/British film with her usually, to hear her real accent. I’d recommend Sense and Sensibility.
Jump to the water was synonym of dying. The sea that night, was so calm and the water temperature -2ºC (or 28ºF). The hypothermia killed you in minutes and in terrible pain.
The pain would be temporary as the body would go completely numb. All blood would be directed to the organs to keep them warm. That means, all mobility would be lost in minutes. The body would go into a coma to conserve energy. It would be peaceful. PH Nargeolet talked about this. He dove the wreck more than any other person. He was the pilot that lost his life in the Titan submersible. He said that if the submersible lost all power, it wouldn't be the oxygen supply that would be the problem, it would be the cold. He said that it would be the most peaceful way to go. He also mentioned that a catastrophic implosion because it would be instantaneous. Either way, it would both be humane, and he said that he wouldn't mind going those ways. Oddly, that latter is what happened.
Lewis, Brock's assistant, is Lewis Abernathy in real life. He was essentially playing as himself, even down to hks wardrobe. Jim Cameron, Lewis and Bill Paxton were good friends. Lewis was an avid Titaniac and worked with Cameron on underwater photography and visual effects on his previous movies. Lewis and Jim worked on several dives before the movie. Cameron promised Lewis a role in the movie. Lewis wanted to be a third class passenger. However, he was too tall. Cameron decided to cast him as the sidekick. He never acted in anything before, but his personality was that of himself. He also came up with the ending scene where Rose is in Titanic heaven. Lewis also went on dives with Bill Paxton and Jim Cameron on "Oceans of the Abyss." I met Lewis at the Titanic Conference in Vegas last year. He was such a character with many wild stories, especially involving Gloria Stewart.
They did Ismey wrong in this movie. There is no evidence that he said to speed up in real life. He was given crap because he survived when so many didnt.
You're absolutely right, though Ismay's character assassination runs much deeper than just this movie as I'm sure you're aware. Interesting and tragic stuff.
It makes me so sad how the movie portrays him as a greedy snob when in real life he only got on a life boat because of the "women and children first" statement, and there were no women & children around after he spent nearly 2 hours helping people get on boats. so him getting on one was perfectly fine
17:26 Titanic started its journey in Southhampton but made its last stop at Queenstown Ireland bevor heading off into the Atlantic, so technically your initial assumption was not wrong.
This division seems ABSOLUTELY psycho because this is a pure 2-act story. I Say it EVERY SINGLE time I get to the iceberg scene. I literally use those words:: "Aaaaand.... ACT TWO".😂 When it came out in stores, IT CAME OUT ON 2 VHSs!! It was meant to be that way. 🙄FOUR Act 😂 😘❤
@tylerferguson3707 Also, they didn't know it at the time, but the cork in the life belts made them so buoyant that it made jumping in the water catastrophic. The cork was rigid, and the top portion was the issue. If a passenger jumped with the jacket on, upon impact, the jacket would rise up in the water. It would slam into the base of the skull and the chin. Many of the 300 bodies recovered had broken necks. This led to an eventual redesign.
there was one person who actually managed to survive being in the water for 2 hours. A Charles Joplin who was a chef onboard the titanic. Before the ship sank he drank some whisky which allowed him to endure the freezing cold water and swim before a lifeboat found him
@movieandtheatrelover5587 There's some debate if his account is true. Obviously, he was inebriated, but the truth is, alcohol actually makes hypothermia worse. With alcohol, heat is released through the extremities because that's where the blood flows. This lowers the core temperature. With hypothermia, the body directs the blood to the organs to keep them warm and functioning. That's why fingers and toes tend to frostbite. Arms and legs become numb and don't function. Anyone without a life jacket would drown. So alcohol is detrimental in that condition. This is why scientists are confused. Not only did Joughin make it, he lived a long life. Many people had complications from limited exposure months later. Archibald Gracie died from pneumonia just months later.
It was quite common for cruise ships to not have enough life boats for all passengers back then, because the life boats were not designed for long-term survival out in the open sea.... they were designed to ferry passengers from a sinking ship to another ship, so they were meant to go back and forth. Traffic in the oceans back then was pretty dense, so it was thought that any ship in trouble would have help fairly quickly. There was actually a ship that could have gotten to the Titanic before the Lisutania did, but it's wireless operator had shut off for the night and wasn't awake to receive the distress call. There were two officers in charge of filling the lifeboats... one of them strictly only allowing women and children (Mr. Lightoller), and the other allowing men to board if no women or children were present (Mr. Murdoch). Also, I always have to point this out: Early in the film Cal said to Jack: "How dare you put your hands on MY fiance!" Then later in the back of the car, Rose says: "Put your hands on me, Jack." Epic eff you to Cal and her mother! If you want to learn more about Titanic, I suggest a channel called Oceanliner Designs who goes into great detail about the construction of the ship, the events of that night, misconceptions about the disaster, etc. He's an AMAZING source of information and I found myself going down a rabbit hole when I came across him, and not JUST with the Titanic.
They weren't cruise ships but ocean liners - hotel-esque sea-busses that brought immigrants to the New World and visitors to Europe, crossing the enormous Atlantic Ocean. Cruise ships hug the coast and stick to tropical waters.
@pc_buildyb0i935 And cruise ships didn't exist in 1912 because it wasn't a thing. Transatlantic oceanliners were made to endure high waves, rain, and wind. They visibly look different than cruise ships. Everyone says the Titanic took a long time for the crew to learn the layout, but I think they were exaggerating. My wife and I just visited the Queen Mary, which is 100 ft longer and 40 ft wider. I was able to walk every deck from stem to stern. I knew my way around fairly quickly. Even the first-class dining room felt smaller than I imagined. It was nice, though. Like Titanic, these ships are meant to give quick access to all of the areas conveniently, and they do just that.
@@Chris-vk2zw It wasn't an exaggeration - check out On A Sea of Glass. It took quite a few days for the crew to familiarize themselves with Titanic's layout and even by the time they were ready to depart, not all of them had the hang of it yet. The reason you found it so easy to navigate the Queen Mary is because almost none of the interiors are original. When Long Beach bought her and saved her from being scrapped, the interiors of the ship had already been torn out and there was practically nothing but an empty hull with a few sections of decking left (though I believe the machinery was left intact). Long Beach created a new, hotel-based layout and installed new decking and structured the corridors and rooms like a hotel instead. The original deck plans show a massive discrepancy from the modern design.
@pc_buildyb0i935 I have walked the decks of Titanic in Titanic: Honor and Glory and would say the same thing. I adore On a Sea of Glass and got to meet one of the authors, Bill Wormstadt, at the 2018 Titanic Conference. I think the difference was perspective. The Olympic-class ships were the largest, and Titanic was like a labyrinth in the lower decks, which probably made it seem larger and more confusing to navigate, especially if you were previously on smaller ships. If you think about it, the super structure is only three stories and 5/8's of the ship. The boiler rooms, turbine room, and engine rooms are three stories and take up a big portion. The funnels even take up quite a bit of space. Of course, we've been told that these were the largest ships of their time. We have that expectation of marble when really, it just linoleum.
Some real facts 1. Some(not all) of The underwater scene at the beginning is real footage of the wreck, cameron did dive to the wreck for footage. 2. It took 2hrs 40mins for it to go under. 3. Titanic actually had the recommended amount of lifeboats according to the British board of trade in 1912. Recommended was 16, Titanic had 20. 4. More lifeboats wouldn't of helped either cause they were just launching the last one when boat deck started to go under. 5. It was a moonless night, so it was pitch black except the stars. 6. Water temp was 28°F. So choosing to jump early an swimming away aint really an option. 7. In the one scene of the old couple laying in the bed together as water rushes in, that was Ida and isador straus. And they where actually the co-owners of Macy's 8. Titanic was deemed unsinkable because of its 16 watertight compartments combined with it double bottem. Theroy was it could have 4 compartments flooded and still stay afloat. 9. No sonar back in 1912. Back then it was the 2 guys in the crows nest and they relyed on there eyes. But its was to dark and calm that night, and from wat is known they only had 30sec from when they spotted the berg to turn it.
Small correction. Before the sinking, she was never declared unsinkable by anyone. That was a marketing thing used afterwards. There may have also been a phenomenon called a "false horizon" effect at the time, making it very difficult to see incoming icebergs until they were too close to avoid. It also should be noted that the "women and children first" wasn't any kind of standard policy at the time, and was pretty unique to this particular accident. In many ship founderings, woman and children had abysmally low survival rates.
I have been to Belfast where the Titanic ship was built and the location of where the Titanic ship sank in the ocean and the Titanic cemetery in Halifax. Seeing these places gives you a different perspective of this movie.
Just a few minutes in water that cold could kill you. That's why not a lot of people were jumping, and those that did were either immediately sorry they had, or they immediately lost consciousness from shock.
The man telling his kids "it's only goodbye for a little while" is what breaks the dam for me every time, and I'm a sobbing mess the entire rest of the sinking. This movie is beautiful. I especially love that (historical tragedy aside) it's not just a romance story, it's about a young woman on the verge of ending her life who finds the will to live and discovers the strength within herself to fight for it, because one insignificant young man with nothing to his name *saw* her for who she truly was and could be. Iconic love story.
Violet Jessop was nurse who served aboard the Titanic and was the only person to have survived the sinking of all three sister ships. As she entered the lifeboat she agreed to look after a baby. About 50 years later, on a dark and stormy night, she received a phone call: "Did you rescue a baby aboard the Titanic?" "Yes" "I was that baby" Friends said it was just a local boy playing a prank but she says she never told anybody that story.
Facts: 1. Eric braeden (character: John Jacob Astor) went as a child on Board of ship gustloff. He Survived the biggest ship desaster (gustloff 1945) 2. Making of movie cost more than Real Titanic 3. Charles Joughin (man at the end while ships sunks in White clothes) was one of the kitchen members. He drank so much Alcohol that His Body could handle the coldnes and he survived
Jonathan Hyde played the role of the "coward" J. Bruce Ismay, the White Star Line president in that time. He also has played Samuel Parrish/Van Pelt the hunter in Jumanji (1995), The egyptologist Allen Chamberlain in The Mummy (1999) or Herbert Cadbury in Richie Rich.
He was the most misunderstood person of the Titanic history. Yes, he should have stayed behind. But the man spent the rest of his life trying to redeem his mistake
@@galmanferguson Should he have stayed behind? Contrary to popular belief, it wasn't his fault the ship sank. Furthermore, he was the head of the company, he knew there'd be an investigation to which he would need to be present to bend the truth somewhat about the ship's speed, and also make sure everybody in the fallout of the disaster was compensated, which are exactly the two things he did.
The CGI effects in this version of the film look worse than they did back in 1997, because they remastered the movie and increased the fidelity - resulting in less graininess and blurriness obscuring the weaker CGI elements. It did not look bad at all on VHS tapes and CRT televisions. You couldn’t even tell what was CGI most of the time. Also, Titanic didn’t have a lifeboat shortage. It actually had more than was required by law at the time. BUT, lifeboats weren’t meant to float a ship’s entire passenger load at once. They were intended to act as shuttles, delivering passengers to a rescue ship and returning for more passengers. The Titanic disaster highlighted the flaw in this concept, so ships were then required to have enough lifeboat capacity for its entire passenger load. Titanic’s sister ship Brittanic, which was originally virtually identical to Titanic but hadn’t been finished before titanic sank, was changed during building to address the flaws in Titanic’s design - watertight compartments that went ALL the way up so water couldn’t spill over the top, a double hull so the outer layer could be punctured and the inner layer would still keep the ship from taking on water (only Titanic’s bottom was doubled), and enough lifeboats for everyone aboard as well as faster launching apparatus. As a result, when Brittanic sank after hitting a German sea mine, it was able to evacuate ALL of its passengers in just half an hour, versus 1/3rd of Titanic’s passengers in over 2 hours. Only 30 passengers aboard Brittanic died, and it was due to their life boats being sucked into one of the spinning propellers as the captain commanded the engines full steam to try to beach the ship.
Small correction to offer - the Britannic's watertight bulkheads (which sealed the compartments) did NOT go all the way up. In fact, they don't in modern ships either. You cannot enclose people in a space that is completely sealed, unless you want to suffocate them to death. What they did was step the bulkhead heights toward the bow, and increase their tops by a deck or two, same as with the Olympic. I recommend checking out the official Coast Guard report of the Monarch of the Seas, there's a diagram that shows the watertight compartment design. It's a good enough example of a modern ship, and you'll note in the diagram, the bulkheads don't even reach halfway up the hull. Modern ships can take about 2-3 watertight compartments flooded before sinking, Titanic could handle 4, and following the disaster, Olympic and Britannic could handle 6. Safety is relative.
@@pc_buildyb0i935 5 of the bulkheads went all the way up to B deck, which for all intents and purposes, is “all the way”. Others were shortened because, due to the raising of those 5, the others didn’t need to be as tall.
Yeah that is weird, isn't it? To have more modifiers added to the reactor than the movie! Usually you add them to the movie to avoid the copyright strike but Kate, Leo the footage, none of it was sped up or blurred or anything, just Iced Quokka.
It was considered unsinkable in the sense that, (apart from wartime attacks) they could not conceive a realistic scenario that would cause so much damage to the ship, it would result in a sinking. Any object large enough to cause so much damage would be visible from afar and easy to avoid, whereas any minor damage would be contained by the watertight bulkheads. What ended up happening was the most unlikely, worst-case scenario. The night was moonless and pitch-black, much darker than portrayed in the movie, so they could not see the iceberg until it was right under their noses. By trying to avoid it and steer away last minute, the starboard side was exposed and struck the iceberg, puncturing one too many of the watertight compartments, and when they started to fill, the ship was pulled down below the waterline, allowing water to spill over the top from one compartment to the next. Had they hit the iceberg head-on, or had just one less compartment been compromised, there's a good chance the Titanic would have stayed afloat. It would have caused severe damage still and many would have died, but the ship would have probably proven itself "unsinkable" indeed and the death toll wouldn't have been nowhere near as severe.
No, the Captain does not legally have to go down with the ship. The Captain is in charge of getting everybody off safely and is expected to be the last one off the ship. In a circumstance where many people are dying, a captain may feel guilty and resign themselves to go down with the ship, but it's not in any way a legal requirement.
7:00 The ship has boilers, that burn coal to boil water, which then turns into vapor, which then in enclosed space steadily pressurizes. And once you have a high pressure steam, you let it run through a set of metal fans called "turbine", which makes the turbine spin, which makes the shaft with the propellers spin, which pushes the ship forwards.
Yes, and the two triple expansion reciprocating engines controlled the two outer propellers, and the Parsons low pressure turbine took the exhaust steam and controlled the center propeller, which that propeller couldn't be reversed.
The ship's two main engines were reciprocating 4-cylinder engines connected to crankshafts. Only the central prop was powered by a (low pressure) turbine, which was fed all the runoff steam from the main engines and actually operated at negative pressure.
@pc_buildyb0i935 It was a very efficient system, and the Titanic was running faster than anticipated for not having all boilers lit. This was the case with the Olympic when she had her inspection in the early 30s. Not only was the speed faster than the engines were marked for, but they were also in great condition for operating over 20 years. This wasn't the case of Cunard's steam turbines as they were marked with problems, and the vibration was so bad that they had to reinforce the aft sections of passenger spaces and accommodations. Ultimately, it did very little, and passengers complained about it. The Olympic-class liners were known for their low vibration and their stability with rocky seas. One passenger (I believe she was Sylvia Caldwell, said that she chose to travel on Titanic because the other ships gave her massive sea sickness. She noted that the Titanic was smooth, didn't sway, and the feel of the engines was almost unnoticeable. It was a steady hum, and passengers accounted for how it helped them fall asleep fast. When Titanic hit the iceberg, the thing that people noticed was that the engines were stopped. Many people didn't even notice that as they remained asleep and were only awakened later. Even Fifth Officer Robert Lowe didn't wake up until the lifeboats were nearly launched. So the engines weren't much of a distraction, but noticeable enough to where passengers knew the engines stopped.
6:30 /// It's funny because the first mention that the Titanic was unsinkable appeared in the press... after her sinking. Earlier trade publications simply said that she was "practically unsinkable" but this applied to all ocean liners not just Titanic.
Popular Mechanics and Shipbuilder Magazine both stated "as far as it is possible to do so, these new Olympic-class liners have been designed to be practically unsinkable." But travel agencies of the day exaggerated this and insisted that the Olympic and Titanic were absolutely, 100% unsinkable. Captain Smith was quoted as saying "I can't imagine an accident that could sink a ship these days. Modern shipbuilding has gone beyond that." Thomas Andrews, the late-stage designer, also was quoted as stating the Titanic could be sliced into three pieces and still float. So while neither the White Star Line that operated her nor the Harland & Wolff shipyard that built her ever claimed she was 'unsinkable', the majority of the general population absolutely believed it.
They also had submarines by the time the real Titanic sunk, lol. 1912, only 2 years before ww1. Ofcs none of the subs they had back than could have possibly reached the wreckage.
That suicide scene is fiction, the real first officer Murdoch died a hero, to the very last minute loading lifeboats and getting people off before he was swept off the deck by water and drowned.
@@chiasanzes9770There were more than 100 eye witnesses to it and an eighth of them said it was Murdoch while the others were unsure of the identity other than saying "Senior Officer". Who knows, it was extremely dark and people make assumptions all the time. Charles Lightoller didn't think it was Murdoch.
The people stayed on board as long as possible because the water temperature was too cold. At the temperature a person could only survive for 15 to 45 minutes
Thought I'd address this burning issue: something to consider in terms of the 'half full' boats, the 65 total grading was for "Floating Capacity". As you can see in the film, these boats were lowered by hand, usually only 1 or 2 men per rope, there were 2 ropes or lines per boat ie: their strength determined "Lowering Capacity". Look at the evacuation of the Lusitania as an example of how this process could go wrong. Oceanliner Designs has a 20 minute animation on this that helps to settle this particular debate, in my opinion.
Te thing with this movie is that rewatching there is so much to catch you’ve never noticed before. It’s over 3 hours long but it’s a movie that still has a lot of value in rewatching. I also think it did A LOT to really put the human element back into the disaster. Like so much unfeeling bd desperation is show . Good bd bad, even the people who seemed cowardly and selfish, I like that you were spot on in recognizing this is a situation where people will act in the worst ways to save themselves but there’s a point here it comes down to instinct driven by pure fear. Like the guy who grabs onto Rose bd almost drowns her. He wasn’t being malicious, he was actively drowning like everyone around him and grabbed onto the rarest floating thing. I mean, thinking about it, the steward Tommy punched out might not have woken up before that hall flooded. That guy drowning Rose Jack punched out may have drowned directly from that. But it’s. desperate situation bd trying to survive in. situation where all they can do is survive themselves… it’s people doing what they have to. We ont like the guy who refused to go back and yelled at Molly but he really does present the good point that with *1500* people in the water concentrated in or area, their boat build to hold 65 had a very real possibility of being dragged down and broken apart from the sheer desperation of the people in the water. You wouldn’t even blame the people in the water because they’re in no position to be anything other than trying to save themselves. But yeah, as the ship is sinking and knowing there’s only half enough lifeboats, knowing hundreds of people WILL die no matter how perfectly they fill the boats or if they were calm and orderly, I think this movie did a phenomenal job conveying how horrific it is for this level of disaster to hit with that lack of preparation due to well… frankly never having such a situation. It’s because of Titanic lifeboats went from a tool to ferry passengers to the rescuing ship to having to be able hold the entirety of the ships passengers and crew. They never considered that a heavily trafficked route wouldn’t have a boat nearby enough to rescue everyone. The thing though… that i think really changes how I’ve seen the sinking part of the movie is well… one of the weirdest and idk of maybe insulting comparisons? Thing is there’s only one other disaster with such a massive loss of life and having seen the actual real world reaction. 9/11 is so documented and has so much footage on the ground of people on the ground reacting to something they never imagined happening. They’re two different irrational entirely, one terrorist attack and one. ship sinking from a perfect storm of events to lead up to such a huge disaster. One in pure daylight and one in pitch blackness. Shit, even the vehicles involved are as far apart as you can get, planes and a ship. But watching the sinking now, people choosing whether jumping or staying put is the way they want to die, the desperation and confusion, not knowing the whole situation and how to handle it but mostly… man, mostly it’s the screaming. It’s the screaming and fear from the footage on the ground, people crying and yelling, even down to the “oh god!”s. They’re only compatible in the beer scale of lives lost. But it’s the footage and seeing the people from 9/11 that makes me watch the sinking scenes in Titanic hit pretty different just because the suffering feels more real and it’s really impressive that Cameron and really everyone… just… captured it. And I think that’s important to showing a disaster movie, especially based on something that really happened. Like you were saying, how the team diving to the Titanic went from an analytical/clinical understanding of the Titanic and the facts of what happened but never really understood what it meant to be one of the human beings really there. One of things I liked tat was subtle was how Bodine changed in his ways of talking to Rose. He insisted she was a liar before she arrived, he had no thought about how Rose might feel about the imitation and the way he resented it. I think the subtle thing that shows he’s more respectful of Rose and what she went through is he is saying “he had the iceberg warning in his fucking hand!” and then apologized for the swearing and says again. He seems to have grasped the humanity of the situation by then, frustrated by how they had what is in hindsight a neon sign telling them to be careful. He’s very invested in the story, asking “what happened next?” He was just as fascinated as everyone else, but he’s the only one who asks even if it’s really just a “so did you do it?” question. I like how Rose in the present day conducts herself really. You see that upper class kind of wit and way of handling people. I know I’ve really gone on a rant here but I’ve been watching a lot of reactions and so have been thinking about this movie a lot. One f my favorite things for Rose’s growth brought on by Jack is how she’s gradually empowered to live a life that she wants and that she is in charge of her destiny. When Jack talks her to the other side of the railing, when he says she doesn’t want to do it, her scolding him for it feels like the natural reaction of someone at the end of her rope not needing another person telling her what she wants and what she’ll do. And thing is, Jack SEES that. She can only save herself. He turns it though into a situation where he’ll have to just get himself in trouble and she’s the only one with the power to get him out of it. He makes a comment about the cold water and Rose asks about how cold. It’s not him telling her not to, it’s him giving her more information to consider. But he brings it back around to “I’m not looking forward to jumping in after you…” and asking her to get him off the hook and so she accepts. From that moment, he enabled her to act for herself. When the ship is sinking bd he’s trapped is where you really see Rose stand up on her own two feet after being guided to it. She’s searching for someone to help her save Jack but the moment she breaks the glass on that ax is where she’s taking the entire situation into her hands. Jack really did save her in every way a person can be saved and it’s just… such a well crafted arc.
So the table flip wasn’t scripted….Kate didn’t know he was gonna do that, so her reaction was real. Also, jumping into the water would’ve been deadly because of how cold it was. The sinking happened in April in the mid Atlantic, and even though it was spring time…..the water was below freezing. As you saw from the clip of the boats returning to find everyone dead….they were all frost bitten from the water.
If you still don't know when this movie came out there was 7 people that was still alive from the Titanic left.and out of that 7 one or 2 had seen the movie the rest didn't want to live the memories again
Fun fact: the amount of time between the iceberg hitting and Titanic going under in the movie is the exact amount of time it took for the real Titanic to sink.
That's not really correct. The Titanic hits the iceberg at the 1hr 40m mark in the film, but the movie only has 1h 30m left at this point - Titanic took 2h and 40m to sink. What it really is, is that if you add up all the 1912 scenes together, they add up to like 2hr 20m, which is close to the 2h 40m the ship took to sink.
Contrary to what this movie has you thinking, early on to the voyage captain smith got multiple ice warnings he instead of sticking to course he steers the ship further south to the Gulf Stream further south then they expected icebergs. Also the night before the ship sank the Marconi wireless set broke down and it wasn’t until passed midnight where the operators repaired it as the ship sank in the 14-15th they frequently added more and more power to keep sending the distress call until the final moments where the water reached the electrical equipment in the room shutting down the wireless equipment. Also titanic was sailing only with 9 boilers lit they didn’t light the last 3 until after the ship begun to sink to add more steam for lights and the distress calls
Not the Gulf Stream, but the Southern Seaways. They altered course by maybe 3 nautical miles, which was enough to put the ship into an area where no ice reports were coming from. Also, the Marconi set broke the night before, and was repaired by midnight of the 14th, not the 15th - it was operational and working throughout the 14th and up to the point they hit the iceberg and sank. Also also, the ship was steaming with 25 boilers lit, not 9. The last four were never lit, not even during the sinking, because Boiler Room 6 is the furthest boiler room forward and was the first one to flood.
30:02 correction :: He never abandoned the ship, he got on after making sure there werent any women & children around who could have gotten on, and in real life he never told the captain to go faster, he owned the ship but he was travelling as a passanger so he actually had no say on what speed to go. Unfortunately he was slandered by a rival after the sinking because he made the choice to get in a life boat when it was perfectly okay for him to do so in the first place. The guy's name was Bruce Ismay and this movie unfortunately portrayed him according to the slanderizations and not actually accurate to how the guy was in real life.
This movie and all the movies before did Bruce Ismay "the coward" dirty. Ismay was the president of the ship. The White Star line and all this negativity is comming from one witness report. And one telegram Ismay sent, after Titanic sank. The witness account in the newspaper was "With engines running good, ... beat Olympic and reach New York Tuesday" and his Telegram "Need quick passage to England" These headlines ruined his life.... However there was more to it, much more. He had a personal fude with Randolf Hurst, who basically owned the american press. Hurst took this horrorfing day, do destroy his rival Ismay. Because the witness E. Lessli said that Ismay never wanted a speed record and her full statement was from a conversation she heard between Ismay and Captain Smith. Ismay: "Ship is doing fine, engines running good, we might beat Olympic and reach New York Tuesday, not Wednesday" Also the telegram. On board Carpatia he had ordered two messages to New York. First "Titanic sank, 1500 dead, do what you can." But because anyone wanted to send a message to their loved once, his message was never send, it was lost in the inbox. Second "Need quick passage to England" Of corse he needed that. He was the head of the company and he needed to get back to buisseness. But Hurst took what he needed and doomed this man for the next century to come. However one sad fact about the white Star line. The familys of the musicans and crew got charged, by White Star, for "losing company property" namely uniforms and instruments. They lost in court, but desided to pay only half of the wages, because "Half a trip, half payment"
Fun Fact: James Cameron, the director, is actually the one who drew that picture of rose not Jack And also u cant tell everyone that this is the first timr you've seen this movie i mean it came out in 1997 it eas sudh a bug movie made lots of money i mean i don't think there's anyone who hasn't seen it
One more note- about when the lights went out. DEFINITELY worse. In real life, it would have been MUCH darker out, so when the lights failed it would be like going nearly blind. The men who presumably worked to keep the circuit breakers on even as the electrical room flooded are heroes. they fought to keep the lights on as long as possible to give people light to escape.
I'm from Spain and I don't understand anything. But I'm going to subscribe for 2 reasons: 1: Titanic is one of my top 5 favorite movies of all time / 2: I love that Xbox Series S controller you have on the table
Believe it or not the sweeping shot had some pretty new effects that was only implemented first in Titanic, it may seem dated but boy it was never attempted until this film because they had to.
I'm kind of shocked at the longevity that the film, _The Holiday_ has. It opened to quite middling reviews and it's honestly the only Nancy Meyers film people seem to remember other than _The Parent Trap_ .
Many specialists concluded that if the Titanic had crashed head on, would have floated. However, with that side slot, it was hopelessly flooded. But they also, most of them, concluded that the right decision was trying to dodge the iceberg.
my theory is the ship would've probably stayed afloat a lot longer maybe like 10-15 hours considering only 1 out the 5 compartments was flooded which would buy them more than enough time for help to arrive and save everybody onboard but we'll never know
Even taking it head on, it would have sunk… but the experts think it would have bought them a few hours. Time enough for the SS Carpathia to arrive and take people off before it sunk. All they needed was 4 hours.
The movie is both fiction and nonfiction. Fiction part is Jack and Rose and their families. Nonfiction or true parts is the passengers like Molly Brown and Jon Astor ect were real passengers. Molly Brown did survive. Cameron did a great job mixing these stories together. It humanizes the people and the tragedy of the sinking.
@ralphgomez6251 Fun fact: She was never referred to as Molly, but Maggie. The name didn't come until the Unsinkable Molly Brown. By that time, she had already passed away. This is confirmed by her great-granddaughter, Helen.
The biggest WTF in cinema history. She had 84 years of life, a husband, children, family and friends and yet, she screwed them all, spending afterlife on a ship she hated "a Slave ship", 1500 people she didnt know and one guy she had met 3 days before...
@@AlexandruCarjan technically not, however Cameron said, to him, she died. Also look at the facts. She visits Titanic after her lifes full circle. The wreck transformed into the ship , there are only people who died, also the staircase clock shows 2.20, the moment the last bit of the Stern went down.
@thomasnieswandt8805 If it weren't for Jack intervening she would have jumped from the ship...no future at all. Even if she didn't jump she'd be living a completely miserable life with Cal. Jack was her Liberator, her first True Love, that tends to stick out in a woman's heart that's as deep as the ocean. How could anyone else compare? Your comment is the biggest L in comment history 🤣
16:10 This part here, was unscripted. And holy crap, did that genuinely terrified Kate Winslet for real during that scene where Cal throws in a fit of rage by flipping that table...with ONE hand. Class acting goes to Billy Zane!!! 👏👏
The sad thng is the movie depicted some characters wrong and cut out some really great scenes that happened on that night. Like the fight between the wireless operators from the titanic and from the californian that escalated. The wireless operator of the californian then shuts down his system and heads for bed. Later that evening, the first officer on board the californian saw the lights of the sinking titanic but his captain fought it was the stars on the ocean so they ignored it. Or the scene where captain smith ordered boat 6 to return to the titaanic to take on more passengers, because it only had 12. Boat 6 refused the orders. And sadly they depicted william murdoch wrong. He was the reason a huge majoity of the passenger survived. He took everybody he could on the liveboats. First woman and children, after there where none left the man where allowed to fill in. Lighttoller and most other officers misinterpreted the orders to woman and children only. Funfacts Also the reason why the lookout didnt saw the iceberg earlier was because the binoculars where missing. Shortly before titanics departure one of the officers got switched. The one that left the titanic had the keys to the cuppord with him as he left the ship, and forgott to hand it over. Also the crew wasnt prepared for a sinking. A few days before the desaster occured there was a evac training planned. but captain smith thought it wasnt necessary to do it, because of the size of the ship and his years of experience. So when the tragic moment occured most of the crewmembers didnt realy had any training for this case. The carpathia (the ship that came to titanics aid) drove through the icefield to save them. They where in high speed and pushed the mashines to the limit. the crew was ready to take in as many as possible, and only as the sun started setting the captain saw the fact that they drove in high speed through an enormus ice field, without hitting anything. The titanic drove into the same icefield until she hid an berg. The titanic was also the first ship that ever used S.O.S It was completely new at that time and as the catastrophe occured they where the first to use it.
The wireless operators on Titanic didn't fight with the one on Californian. Phillips simply signaled "Shut up, shut up! Keep out, I am working cape race". This was typical banter for wireless operators back then and would have been the norm. Lightoller didn't misinterpret Smith's orders. Captain Smith was right there with him, helping to load lifeboats throughout the sinking. Binoculars would have made no difference that night. Binoculars aren't used by lookouts to do their job, they're only used to zoom in and identify an object once it's been spotted. Cover your eyes with your hands like binoculars and see how much around you that you can see. Not much right? Binoculars restrict your field of vision and a lookout needs to be able to see EVERYWHERE around the ship's bow, not just directly in front. The crew were not ill-prepared at all. A lifeboat drill the day the ship would later hit the iceberg was cancelled so Captain Smith could lead a 1st class church service, but the Titanic's crew had already done three lifeboat drills. One quick one in Belfast before leaving, one during her sea trials, and one at the Southampton docks a few days before passengers boarded. James Cameron hired a crew of mariners and naval architects to make a replica of Titanic's lifeboat systems, and they worked together to load and launch a lifeboat, timing themselves. They worked pretty quickly, but after looking at their stopwatches, they realized Titanic's crew had outperformed their record and by a wide margin. Titanic's crew performed amazingly that night. The Titanic didn't drive into an icefield. At the latitude Titanic found herself, the ice was actually much further West, and they never saw any until the iceberg that they hit. Many survivors stated that they saw icebergs everywhere in the morning when Carpathia came to get them, but nobody at the time realized just how far North the lifeboats had all drifted through the night, thanks to the currents. In fact, Smith adjusted Titanic's course ("turned the corner") late enough in the voyage (April 14th) that the ship was 3nm further South than originally intended, pointing the ship into an area of ocean where NO ice warnings were coming from.
And I think they were hunting for notoriety. It would probably end up on a museum. In the 1998 expedition, the largest piece from Titanic was recovered. The initial failed 1996 expedition got huge press and even a cruise ship with notable celebrities came out to witness. Unfortunately, the piece was so heavy that it almost pulled the recovery vessel and the rope was severed. At the time, they reported that the line snapped because of the currents to cover for near tragedy. The second attempt was successful and the piece went on an exhibition tour. Now it's at the Titanic Artifact Exhibit at the Luxor in Vegas.
:26 the reason for the long run time is once it strikes the iceberg. It sinks in real time. James Cameron wanted to match the rest of the movie with the amount of time it took Titanic to sink.
The Titanic does not sink in realtime in the film. This semi-fact is most often misquoted. What IS the case, is that if you add up all the 1912 scenes together, it equals about 2hr 38min which is very close to the 2hr 40min it took the Titanic to sink.
@pc_buildyb0i935 The scenes set in 1912, i.e. the whole movie except the present-day scenes and the opening and ending credits, have a total length of two hours and forty minutes, the exact time it took for Titanic to sink. Also, the collision with the iceberg reportedly lasted 37 seconds, which is how long the collision scene is in the movie.
@@johndrews206 Reread my comment. It doesn't sink in realtime, and the total 1912 scenes added up is 2hr 38min like I said. The film itself is 3hr 14min. The iceberg collision scene is basically realtime though
I'm a different generation than you, and live in a different country, but I am surprised they didn't teach you about the Titanic in school. We learned all about it in Canada
@@pc_buildyb0i935 Marathon ON. This would have been the early 80s. We discussed Titanic, and if I recall, "A Night to Remember" was on television that weekend
@@pc_buildyb0i935 (I probably should explain: "A Night to Remember" is also a portrayal of the events of the disaster (without the immorality in this version))
@@SJHFoto Oh no need to explain. I've been a Titanic nut for 30 years. I'm familiar with ANTR haha, it's very good on its own. In all honesty, even with its issues and inaccuracies, I prefer the 1997 film over ANTR.
So spitting grosses you out, is that just when other people spit or your spit also? For example, let's say your boyfriend asks you to spit in his mouth, would that gross you out?
She had a full life with the love of her husband, children and grand children. A whole life! And the thing she thinks about some homeless guy she hooked up 60 years before! How romantic...
It wasn't the lookouts fault, Titanic was killed by the weather, the difference in cold water and slightly warmer air caused a temperature mirage which made the icebergs impossible to see until they were nearly right on top of it.
The cold water mirage theory has been disproven. It was historian Tim Malton who pulled it out of his ass. Titanic was killed by a combination of bad luck and good hubris.
@@unpro04 No, it hasn't, because it's a real weather phenomenon that happens. I live at a similar latitude, on the East Coast, and not only do we happen to get icebergs and blackbergs, we also get the polar inversion mirage. No hubris at all was involved in the Titanic disaster, that's what pop culture Titanic asserts - not historical Titanic.
@pc_buildyb0i935 And people aren't allowed different opinions? Calling your ship unsinkable (don't tell me about "practically"), resulting in sheer denial of the fact that the ship is still able to sink too quickly for their archaic evacuation method to play out, is what doomed the lives of her passengers. The arrogance to presume your design is so perfect, a cruel but fitting irony for her to sink on her maiden voyage. It was also the hubris of Captain E.J. Smith and his crew to presume the worst of the ice was north of their position, despite receiving several warnings of the ice ahead.
I ugly cried in the theater, but not for Jack and Rose as they weren't real. I cried for the true suffering and tragedy that occurred to the real passengers.
The wreck was discovered in 1985 using just an underwater camera. The following year, there was an actual trip to the wreck. Some footage from the movie was actually from a dive taken to the Titanic about ten years later. James Cameron used the footage to convince movie executives to greenlight the movie.
@ronfehr7899 Did you know that Cameron demanded a higher budget before the sinking shots were filmed? The studio said no. So James Cameron told them that he would forfeit his pay and all residuals. He got the budget, but he also never got paid a cent from the movie, and he is okay with that. His whole reason for making the movie was to get to go to the wrecksite. However, with the premiere screening, he was terrified that it was going to perform terribly. What's worse was that the film was so long and tight on the reel that it snapped during the middle of the screening. He was livid because he was worried that people were going to leave. This also meant getting a backup film cannister and starting the movie over from the beginning. However, everyone not only waited, but they stayed and watched until the end. The screening audience loved it, and all was well.
@Chris-vk2zw The way I heard it explained was that Cameron went down to the site, spending his own money. The footage that he brought back was so good that it basically forced an increase in the budget. As for the rest, that I did not know. Thank you for informing me.
While it's a great movie it also took a LOT of liberties when portraying the real people that were on the ship. UA-camrs like Historic Travels and Oceanliner Designs have gone over Titanic's story in detail, with the former going into the stories of the people.
34:20 “ would you not be safer if you jumped into the water away from all the debris” the sad truth is if they jumped into the water too soon they would have a greater risk of freezing to death before help arrived so the best chance of survival was to stay on the ship long as possible also I imagine a large number of people couldn’t swim 😢
The water was freezing, which means that the average person would be dead in 15-30 minutes of hypothermia. That's the real danger in cold water, so even if you have a life preserver. it wouldn't matter, as your body temperature would gradually drop and kill you.
@@Finians_Mancave The water temperature that night was 28 degrees Fahrenheit. You freeze to death very quickly and it would also be painful at first with as Jack described, would feel like you were being cut by thousands of knives, before you would become numb.
The $20 cal offered jack was the equivalent of offering someone over $600 today.
Money money money💸
still pretty sure you could buy more with 20$ then then 600$ now
@@Netscape-kd6mg definitely, that's just the adjustment for inflation. Add that to things that are outrageously priced today and it's probably closer to $1000 value.
@nguvideos2868 I think a third-class ticket was $35 to start a new life in America. $20 would go a long way, especially for someone who was starting a new life. Cal was very generous.
Considering this happened in 1912, a single ounce of gold was redeemable for exactly $20. So Jack was offered a single ounce of gold so it's almost $2700 today.
THANK YOU, especially as a first time watcher for understanding that it was a case that they were too heavy for the door frame, not that it wasn’t big enough, I’m very impressed!
The fact that she understands/explained the basic function of a steam engine gave me hope that she understands enough about physics to get the door dilemma, too 😊
Yes , plus they were freezing and when you are freezing that much your muscles do not work properly. (get so irritated on myth busters that tried to say otherwise )
The Old Couple at 34:05 is Isador and Ida Strauss. They were featured in a deleted scene. Their love story is the truest of all of Titanic. They were a real couple. When Ida was offered a seat as the women were. But she refused to leave her husband. The husband was offered a seat. But he refused because he didn't want to go before any other man. So the couple decided together to stay behind. Both perished that night.
Even in death, they were a loyal couple.
He was the owner and founder of Macy's
you know, people need to stop apologizing for sincerity. I fucking hate how cynical we all have become in this modern time. You felt real emotion watching this and you don't need to apologize for it or make a joke about it.
I'm with you! 👏👏👏
Right, crazy isn't it! I wish we could go back to how things were but you can't "unroll the toothpaste tube" so to speak
They did not have a Sonar or a Radar until the 1940s. This was 1912 and so human lookouts were still the required.
@TheHessian123 Speaking of lookouts, Murdoch may have spotted the iceberg before or simultaneously before the phone call from Fleet and Lee and may have made a mental decision prior. He was taking a special watch on the starboard bridge wing that night. With the cold air mirage, Murdoch may have been able to see a silhouette better at his vantage point as Fleet and Lee were overhead. After all, he knew to turn hard-a-starboard. Also, they're saying they had 37 seconds to react, but reacting also means making a decision to turn and stop the ship. I don't think Murdoch did that blindly.
@@Chris-vk2zwalso, so many people think (since the movie implies) that the lookouts would have used binoculars to see the burgs. That simply is not true.
@Zamiroh Right, and Reginald Lee said that the haze was so bad that he couldn't see the iceberg in time. He didn't describe it as fog, so he must have been describing the mirage effect. He said that this haze lifted and that he could spot a light on the horizon. Fredrick Fleet also testified to this. Lee was asked if binoculars may have helped. Lee said he thought it was feasible but that there was a debate about that. My friend Michael was a Naval sailor and said that binoculars hinder peripheral vision because you zoom in on one area. Imagine doing that on a moonless night with haze. If an obstacle is spotted, you must give a warning to the bridge. Binoculars are used to identify that object, but the identification is not as important. The idea is that all obstacles are potentially dangerous. I also wonder if the two were keeping focus on what was ahead as they were looking for growlers and low-level ice on the surface. Could that have been a distraction?
@@Zamiroh The binoculars had been left behind in Southampton.
@russelltofts3673 yes, I am aware. However, my point was that the binoculars would not be used to spot icebergs, even if they had them. The naked eye is much better for that.
The reason the Titanic was deemed unsinkable was because she’d been built with 16 watertight compartments, and she was able to stay afloat even with four of them being filled with water. No other ship of the time had this capability.
Unfortunately the iceberg breached the front five which caused the water to spill over the watertight doors and well, the rest is history
One fault was that just the bulkhead doors was not enough. The tops were not covered, allowing water to spill over. Had they been covered, the water would've been contained, at least for a little while.
The term "unsinkable" came from REPORTERS of the time and NOT the White Star Line!!!
@@ronfehr7899 A common misunderstanding - modern ships don't seal the bulkhead tops, either. This would effectively cut off airflow and suffocate passengers in the entire compartment to death. Besides, it isn't how they work.
Water flowing inside the ship can only flood as high as sea level outside the ship, and no higher - at this point, water pressure at the compromised area on the hull reaches the same water pressure as the ocean trying to flood inward in combination with the interior air pressure pushing back against the water. This cancels out the water pressure and the flooding stops completely, so your bulkhead tops only need to be higher than sea level, and they'll stop the flooding from progressing. Thus, every single ship naturally has a tipping point where so many flooded compartments add enough weight to pull the ship low enough to the point that the bulkhead tops fall below sea level. and this is where a ship's death sentence lies.
For reference, take a look at the official Coast Guard report of the Monarch of the Seas, a perfectly good example of a modern ship. In the report, there's a cutaway diagram of her watertight compartments, and you'll note the bulkheads don't even reach halfway up the hull, whereas on Titanic, many of the bulkheads were nearly 3/4 of the way up the hull. Modern ships, on average, can handle 2 to 3 watertight compartments flooded in a row before sinking. Titanic could do 4, and her sisters Olympic (after Titanic sank) and Britannic, could do 6. Safety is relative.
The reason Titanic sank wasn't because the bulkheads weren't sealed at the top, it was because 6 out of her 16 compartments in a row were taking on water.
@@pc_buildyb0i935Thank you for explaining that. I found it quite informative.
@@ronfehr7899 You're quite welcome, I love talking about this stuff
The cold weather, and namely the icebergs, made the water more still than usual. And icebergs could often be identified by waves crashing against their bases.
This happened to be a moonless night, so spotting an iceberg was made even more difficult.
I cant imagine how horrifying it must've been when the ship lights went out
In reality it was much darker. Anyone who had ever watched out to the ocean at night, would spot the difference. They made it all a lot brighter, so the iceberg would apear as some kind of black spot on the horizon.
@thomasnieswandt8805 Usually moonlight would help a little, but there was no moon that night.
The lack of wind made the water more still than usual. There was none that evening, hence the flat calm surface. There were no icebergs in the ship's vicinity besides the one they hit, as they were 3nm further South thanks to a delayed course adjustment.
@@thomasnieswandt8805 At that moment, it would be so dark that the sea would look like an empty void, with little difference between the sky and the ocean surface.
This ship sailed in 1912 AND THIS GIRL OVER HERE LIKE "I thought they would have like a sonaaar radaaar or something" BROO😭😭😭😭😭
She did say that maybe they didn't have it. Not everyone knows exactly which time things were invented. Try to be more considerate of people instead of making fun of them
@@Rainienuabo I already knew that on those times the only people to have whistle were the crew members, you can also see it on the lifejackets they don't have it
It took me a while to realize that Kate Winslet was playing a American I always thought her, cal and her mother were English but then I realized they had transatlantic accents which is a hybrid between English and American
Yes, and those accents lasted for quite a while. Many Hollywood actors/actresses were enticed to use the accent in their film rooms as it sounded more clear and refined. This film was wrongfully criticized because critics felt the acting was a little over the top, but they failed to understand the period. The song "Come Josephine" was a hit pop song of early 1912. Cameron and his team did his homework.
Titanic is truly like a series of unfortunate events combined. They left the binoculars at their last stop, it was a moonless night, the ocean was flat, they were speeding, if they didn't try to turn and collide with the iceberg head-on they could stay afloat a lot longer- at least until a help arrives etc etc.. It's horrific. And what I love about this movie that, you kinda forget the ship sinks half-way of the movie and when the scene transitions into the wreck, you get reminded it of it.
If they had collided with the iceberg head-on, the ship most likely wouldn't have sunk at all. History has shown what happens to large ships that collided with static objects head on, and they stayed afloat, even returning to harbor under their own power. More than a hundred feet of the bow would have been smashed in, crushing hundreds of people to death, but the ship would have survived.
But as they say, hindsight is 20/20. There was no way for the people steering to know this- and intentionally crashing the ship head-on into an iceberg would have gotten them all in serious trouble.
When Billy Zane threw the table and all the dishes aside, Kate didn’t know that he was going to do that, so her reaction was 100% genuine. Yes, Kate is English in real life. You’d have to watch an English/British film with her usually, to hear her real accent. I’d recommend Sense and Sensibility.
I'm a simple person - when I see the Titanic mentioned, I immediately start crying. ✌🏻
Jump to the water was synonym of dying. The sea that night, was so calm and the water temperature -2ºC (or 28ºF). The hypothermia killed you in minutes and in terrible pain.
The pain would be temporary as the body would go completely numb. All blood would be directed to the organs to keep them warm. That means, all mobility would be lost in minutes. The body would go into a coma to conserve energy. It would be peaceful. PH Nargeolet talked about this. He dove the wreck more than any other person. He was the pilot that lost his life in the Titan submersible. He said that if the submersible lost all power, it wouldn't be the oxygen supply that would be the problem, it would be the cold. He said that it would be the most peaceful way to go. He also mentioned that a catastrophic implosion because it would be instantaneous. Either way, it would both be humane, and he said that he wouldn't mind going those ways. Oddly, that latter is what happened.
I love the beginning scene when Brock Lovett and his crew are exploring the wrecked Titanic. That's honestly my favorite part of this entire movie.
Lewis, Brock's assistant, is Lewis Abernathy in real life. He was essentially playing as himself, even down to hks wardrobe. Jim Cameron, Lewis and Bill Paxton were good friends. Lewis was an avid Titaniac and worked with Cameron on underwater photography and visual effects on his previous movies. Lewis and Jim worked on several dives before the movie. Cameron promised Lewis a role in the movie. Lewis wanted to be a third class passenger. However, he was too tall. Cameron decided to cast him as the sidekick. He never acted in anything before, but his personality was that of himself. He also came up with the ending scene where Rose is in Titanic heaven. Lewis also went on dives with Bill Paxton and Jim Cameron on "Oceans of the Abyss." I met Lewis at the Titanic Conference in Vegas last year. He was such a character with many wild stories, especially involving Gloria Stewart.
At the end she died in her bed as an old woman & went back to spend eternity with Jack.
the last scene is one of the most beautiful scenes in history of movies.Rose meets Jack in the after life.
This movie is a masterpiece!
They did Ismey wrong in this movie. There is no evidence that he said to speed up in real life. He was given crap because he survived when so many didnt.
You're absolutely right, though Ismay's character assassination runs much deeper than just this movie as I'm sure you're aware. Interesting and tragic stuff.
It makes me so sad how the movie portrays him as a greedy snob when in real life he only got on a life boat because of the "women and children first" statement, and there were no women & children around after he spent nearly 2 hours helping people get on boats. so him getting on one was perfectly fine
Cameron even admitted this, and when asked why he portrayed Ismay as an antagonist in the film he said "because that's what people expect to see."
17:26 Titanic started its journey in Southhampton but made its last stop at Queenstown Ireland bevor heading off into the Atlantic, so technically your initial assumption was not wrong.
It also *technically* started in Belfast, since she left with one passenger aboard (who was given free reign of the ship), en route to Southampton.
This division seems ABSOLUTELY psycho because this is a pure 2-act story. I Say it EVERY SINGLE time I get to the iceberg scene. I literally use those words:: "Aaaaand.... ACT TWO".😂 When it came out in stores, IT CAME OUT ON 2 VHSs!! It was meant to be that way. 🙄FOUR Act 😂 😘❤
Jumping into the water is a death trap. The water was -2 degrees C. You would be hypothermic within minutes and dead in 10 minutes.
@tylerferguson3707 Also, they didn't know it at the time, but the cork in the life belts made them so buoyant that it made jumping in the water catastrophic. The cork was rigid, and the top portion was the issue. If a passenger jumped with the jacket on, upon impact, the jacket would rise up in the water. It would slam into the base of the skull and the chin. Many of the 300 bodies recovered had broken necks. This led to an eventual redesign.
Yeah buddy if ur not on a life boat i think u had no other choice there
@@schokomensch5436 Yes, although the least painful way to go would be to go out in the water. Your body would go into a peaceful sleep.
there was one person who actually managed to survive being in the water for 2 hours. A Charles Joplin who was a chef onboard the titanic. Before the ship sank he drank some whisky which allowed him to endure the freezing cold water and swim before a lifeboat found him
@movieandtheatrelover5587 There's some debate if his account is true. Obviously, he was inebriated, but the truth is, alcohol actually makes hypothermia worse. With alcohol, heat is released through the extremities because that's where the blood flows. This lowers the core temperature. With hypothermia, the body directs the blood to the organs to keep them warm and functioning. That's why fingers and toes tend to frostbite. Arms and legs become numb and don't function. Anyone without a life jacket would drown. So alcohol is detrimental in that condition. This is why scientists are confused. Not only did Joughin make it, he lived a long life. Many people had complications from limited exposure months later. Archibald Gracie died from pneumonia just months later.
It was quite common for cruise ships to not have enough life boats for all passengers back then, because the life boats were not designed for long-term survival out in the open sea.... they were designed to ferry passengers from a sinking ship to another ship, so they were meant to go back and forth. Traffic in the oceans back then was pretty dense, so it was thought that any ship in trouble would have help fairly quickly. There was actually a ship that could have gotten to the Titanic before the Lisutania did, but it's wireless operator had shut off for the night and wasn't awake to receive the distress call. There were two officers in charge of filling the lifeboats... one of them strictly only allowing women and children (Mr. Lightoller), and the other allowing men to board if no women or children were present (Mr. Murdoch). Also, I always have to point this out: Early in the film Cal said to Jack: "How dare you put your hands on MY fiance!" Then later in the back of the car, Rose says: "Put your hands on me, Jack." Epic eff you to Cal and her mother! If you want to learn more about Titanic, I suggest a channel called Oceanliner Designs who goes into great detail about the construction of the ship, the events of that night, misconceptions about the disaster, etc. He's an AMAZING source of information and I found myself going down a rabbit hole when I came across him, and not JUST with the Titanic.
They weren't cruise ships but ocean liners - hotel-esque sea-busses that brought immigrants to the New World and visitors to Europe, crossing the enormous Atlantic Ocean. Cruise ships hug the coast and stick to tropical waters.
@pc_buildyb0i935 And cruise ships didn't exist in 1912 because it wasn't a thing. Transatlantic oceanliners were made to endure high waves, rain, and wind. They visibly look different than cruise ships. Everyone says the Titanic took a long time for the crew to learn the layout, but I think they were exaggerating. My wife and I just visited the Queen Mary, which is 100 ft longer and 40 ft wider. I was able to walk every deck from stem to stern. I knew my way around fairly quickly. Even the first-class dining room felt smaller than I imagined. It was nice, though. Like Titanic, these ships are meant to give quick access to all of the areas conveniently, and they do just that.
@@Chris-vk2zw It wasn't an exaggeration - check out On A Sea of Glass. It took quite a few days for the crew to familiarize themselves with Titanic's layout and even by the time they were ready to depart, not all of them had the hang of it yet.
The reason you found it so easy to navigate the Queen Mary is because almost none of the interiors are original. When Long Beach bought her and saved her from being scrapped, the interiors of the ship had already been torn out and there was practically nothing but an empty hull with a few sections of decking left (though I believe the machinery was left intact).
Long Beach created a new, hotel-based layout and installed new decking and structured the corridors and rooms like a hotel instead.
The original deck plans show a massive discrepancy from the modern design.
@pc_buildyb0i935 I have walked the decks of Titanic in Titanic: Honor and Glory and would say the same thing. I adore On a Sea of Glass and got to meet one of the authors, Bill Wormstadt, at the 2018 Titanic Conference. I think the difference was perspective. The Olympic-class ships were the largest, and Titanic was like a labyrinth in the lower decks, which probably made it seem larger and more confusing to navigate, especially if you were previously on smaller ships. If you think about it, the super structure is only three stories and 5/8's of the ship. The boiler rooms, turbine room, and engine rooms are three stories and take up a big portion. The funnels even take up quite a bit of space. Of course, we've been told that these were the largest ships of their time. We have that expectation of marble when really, it just linoleum.
Some real facts
1. Some(not all) of The underwater scene at the beginning is real footage of the wreck, cameron did dive to the wreck for footage.
2. It took 2hrs 40mins for it to go under.
3. Titanic actually had the recommended amount of lifeboats according to the British board of trade in 1912. Recommended was 16, Titanic had 20.
4. More lifeboats wouldn't of helped either cause they were just launching the last one when boat deck started to go under.
5. It was a moonless night, so it was pitch black except the stars.
6. Water temp was 28°F. So choosing to jump early an swimming away aint really an option.
7. In the one scene of the old couple laying in the bed together as water rushes in, that was Ida and isador straus. And they where actually the co-owners of Macy's
8. Titanic was deemed unsinkable because of its 16 watertight compartments combined with it double bottem. Theroy was it could have 4 compartments flooded and still stay afloat.
9. No sonar back in 1912. Back then it was the 2 guys in the crows nest and they relyed on there eyes. But its was to dark and calm that night, and from wat is known they only had 30sec from when they spotted the berg to turn it.
Small correction. Before the sinking, she was never declared unsinkable by anyone. That was a marketing thing used afterwards.
There may have also been a phenomenon called a "false horizon" effect at the time, making it very difficult to see incoming icebergs until they were too close to avoid.
It also should be noted that the "women and children first" wasn't any kind of standard policy at the time, and was pretty unique to this particular accident. In many ship founderings, woman and children had abysmally low survival rates.
I have been to Belfast where the Titanic ship was built and the location of where the Titanic ship sank in the ocean and the Titanic cemetery in Halifax. Seeing these places gives you a different perspective of this movie.
Just a few minutes in water that cold could kill you. That's why not a lot of people were jumping, and those that did were either immediately sorry they had, or they immediately lost consciousness from shock.
The man telling his kids "it's only goodbye for a little while" is what breaks the dam for me every time, and I'm a sobbing mess the entire rest of the sinking.
This movie is beautiful. I especially love that (historical tragedy aside) it's not just a romance story, it's about a young woman on the verge of ending her life who finds the will to live and discovers the strength within herself to fight for it, because one insignificant young man with nothing to his name *saw* her for who she truly was and could be. Iconic love story.
Violet Jessop was nurse who served aboard the Titanic and was the only person to have survived the sinking of all three sister ships. As she entered the lifeboat she agreed to look after a baby. About 50 years later, on a dark and stormy night, she received a phone call:
"Did you rescue a baby aboard the Titanic?"
"Yes"
"I was that baby"
Friends said it was just a local boy playing a prank but she says she never told anybody that story.
Olympic didn't sink. Violet Jessop was invited during the Olympic Hawke Collision.
@@gokulgopan4397 It didn't sink but it was damaged.
@@tremorsfan I addressed "sinking of all sister ships".
@@tremorsfan Not significantly. The total repair bill was £25,000 - a single trip's ticket sales would be more than enough to cover that.
If a long run time dissuades you. Think of it as a book. Halfway through, put a bookmark in it (aka pause) and watch the other half the next day.
Facts:
1. Eric braeden (character: John Jacob Astor) went as a child on Board of ship gustloff. He Survived the biggest ship desaster (gustloff 1945)
2. Making of movie cost more than Real Titanic
3. Charles Joughin (man at the end while ships sunks in White clothes) was one of the kitchen members. He drank so much Alcohol that His Body could handle the coldnes and he survived
Jonathan Hyde played the role of the "coward" J. Bruce Ismay, the White Star Line president in that time. He also has played Samuel Parrish/Van Pelt the hunter in Jumanji (1995), The egyptologist Allen Chamberlain in The Mummy (1999) or Herbert Cadbury in Richie Rich.
He was the most misunderstood person of the Titanic history. Yes, he should have stayed behind. But the man spent the rest of his life trying to redeem his mistake
@@galmanferguson Should he have stayed behind? Contrary to popular belief, it wasn't his fault the ship sank. Furthermore, he was the head of the company, he knew there'd be an investigation to which he would need to be present to bend the truth somewhat about the ship's speed, and also make sure everybody in the fallout of the disaster was compensated, which are exactly the two things he did.
The CGI effects in this version of the film look worse than they did back in 1997, because they remastered the movie and increased the fidelity - resulting in less graininess and blurriness obscuring the weaker CGI elements.
It did not look bad at all on VHS tapes and CRT televisions. You couldn’t even tell what was CGI most of the time.
Also, Titanic didn’t have a lifeboat shortage. It actually had more than was required by law at the time. BUT, lifeboats weren’t meant to float a ship’s entire passenger load at once. They were intended to act as shuttles, delivering passengers to a rescue ship and returning for more passengers. The Titanic disaster highlighted the flaw in this concept, so ships were then required to have enough lifeboat capacity for its entire passenger load.
Titanic’s sister ship Brittanic, which was originally virtually identical to Titanic but hadn’t been finished before titanic sank, was changed during building to address the flaws in Titanic’s design - watertight compartments that went ALL the way up so water couldn’t spill over the top, a double hull so the outer layer could be punctured and the inner layer would still keep the ship from taking on water (only Titanic’s bottom was doubled), and enough lifeboats for everyone aboard as well as faster launching apparatus.
As a result, when Brittanic sank after hitting a German sea mine, it was able to evacuate ALL of its passengers in just half an hour, versus 1/3rd of Titanic’s passengers in over 2 hours. Only 30 passengers aboard Brittanic died, and it was due to their life boats being sucked into one of the spinning propellers as the captain commanded the engines full steam to try to beach the ship.
Small correction to offer - the Britannic's watertight bulkheads (which sealed the compartments) did NOT go all the way up. In fact, they don't in modern ships either. You cannot enclose people in a space that is completely sealed, unless you want to suffocate them to death. What they did was step the bulkhead heights toward the bow, and increase their tops by a deck or two, same as with the Olympic.
I recommend checking out the official Coast Guard report of the Monarch of the Seas, there's a diagram that shows the watertight compartment design. It's a good enough example of a modern ship, and you'll note in the diagram, the bulkheads don't even reach halfway up the hull.
Modern ships can take about 2-3 watertight compartments flooded before sinking, Titanic could handle 4, and following the disaster, Olympic and Britannic could handle 6. Safety is relative.
@@pc_buildyb0i935 5 of the bulkheads went all the way up to B deck, which for all intents and purposes, is “all the way”. Others were shortened because, due to the raising of those 5, the others didn’t need to be as tall.
@@derbydriver Oops, my bad, I for some reason thought they went no higher than C deck, not sure why. But I had that mixed up, you're indeed correct.
Lovely reaction, but ohh my that "wiggly/wavy" sound effect is so cringe to me. Sorry, just had to put it out there. Keep doing everything else 👍
Yeah that is weird, isn't it? To have more modifiers added to the reactor than the movie! Usually you add them to the movie to avoid the copyright strike but Kate, Leo the footage, none of it was sped up or blurred or anything, just Iced Quokka.
It was considered unsinkable in the sense that, (apart from wartime attacks) they could not conceive a realistic scenario that would cause so much damage to the ship, it would result in a sinking. Any object large enough to cause so much damage would be visible from afar and easy to avoid, whereas any minor damage would be contained by the watertight bulkheads.
What ended up happening was the most unlikely, worst-case scenario. The night was moonless and pitch-black, much darker than portrayed in the movie, so they could not see the iceberg until it was right under their noses. By trying to avoid it and steer away last minute, the starboard side was exposed and struck the iceberg, puncturing one too many of the watertight compartments, and when they started to fill, the ship was pulled down below the waterline, allowing water to spill over the top from one compartment to the next.
Had they hit the iceberg head-on, or had just one less compartment been compromised, there's a good chance the Titanic would have stayed afloat. It would have caused severe damage still and many would have died, but the ship would have probably proven itself "unsinkable" indeed and the death toll wouldn't have been nowhere near as severe.
8:15 "that dress is stunning", she says, while wearing a similar dress
to be honest this movie has a lot of true story events on how titanic sinked in 1912.
Nice reaction! Great movie and acting :)
Apparently the captain has to legally go down with the ship it’s illegal for them to escape early
No, the Captain does not legally have to go down with the ship. The Captain is in charge of getting everybody off safely and is expected to be the last one off the ship.
In a circumstance where many people are dying, a captain may feel guilty and resign themselves to go down with the ship, but it's not in any way a legal requirement.
To the people on board, this was a horror movie. To the lobsters down in the kitchen, it was a religious experience.
until he reached around 1000ft and imploded\crush, he might have been cheering lol.
Not if they were freshwater lobsters aka crayfish
7:00 The ship has boilers, that burn coal to boil water, which then turns into vapor, which then in enclosed space steadily pressurizes. And once you have a high pressure steam, you let it run through a set of metal fans called "turbine", which makes the turbine spin, which makes the shaft with the propellers spin, which pushes the ship forwards.
Yes, and the two triple expansion reciprocating engines controlled the two outer propellers, and the Parsons low pressure turbine took the exhaust steam and controlled the center propeller, which that propeller couldn't be reversed.
The ship's two main engines were reciprocating 4-cylinder engines connected to crankshafts. Only the central prop was powered by a (low pressure) turbine, which was fed all the runoff steam from the main engines and actually operated at negative pressure.
@pc_buildyb0i935 It was a very efficient system, and the Titanic was running faster than anticipated for not having all boilers lit. This was the case with the Olympic when she had her inspection in the early 30s. Not only was the speed faster than the engines were marked for, but they were also in great condition for operating over 20 years. This wasn't the case of Cunard's steam turbines as they were marked with problems, and the vibration was so bad that they had to reinforce the aft sections of passenger spaces and accommodations. Ultimately, it did very little, and passengers complained about it. The Olympic-class liners were known for their low vibration and their stability with rocky seas. One passenger (I believe she was Sylvia Caldwell, said that she chose to travel on Titanic because the other ships gave her massive sea sickness. She noted that the Titanic was smooth, didn't sway, and the feel of the engines was almost unnoticeable. It was a steady hum, and passengers accounted for how it helped them fall asleep fast. When Titanic hit the iceberg, the thing that people noticed was that the engines were stopped. Many people didn't even notice that as they remained asleep and were only awakened later. Even Fifth Officer Robert Lowe didn't wake up until the lifeboats were nearly launched. So the engines weren't much of a distraction, but noticeable enough to where passengers knew the engines stopped.
6:30 /// It's funny because the first mention that the Titanic was unsinkable appeared in the press... after her sinking. Earlier trade publications simply said that she was "practically unsinkable" but this applied to all ocean liners not just Titanic.
Popular Mechanics and Shipbuilder Magazine both stated "as far as it is possible to do so, these new Olympic-class liners have been designed to be practically unsinkable."
But travel agencies of the day exaggerated this and insisted that the Olympic and Titanic were absolutely, 100% unsinkable.
Captain Smith was quoted as saying "I can't imagine an accident that could sink a ship these days. Modern shipbuilding has gone beyond that."
Thomas Andrews, the late-stage designer, also was quoted as stating the Titanic could be sliced into three pieces and still float.
So while neither the White Star Line that operated her nor the Harland & Wolff shipyard that built her ever claimed she was 'unsinkable', the majority of the general population absolutely believed it.
They also had submarines by the time the real Titanic sunk, lol. 1912, only 2 years before ww1. Ofcs none of the subs they had back than could have possibly reached the wreckage.
That suicide scene is fiction, the real first officer Murdoch died a hero, to the very last minute loading lifeboats and getting people off before he was swept off the deck by water and drowned.
Therre was an officer who shot himself though but he wasn't Murdoch, an passenger saw that happen.
@@chiasanzes9770 That could be true but according to the Titanic historians I listen to, it cannot be verified completely.
@@chiasanzes9770There were more than 100 eye witnesses to it and an eighth of them said it was Murdoch while the others were unsure of the identity other than saying "Senior Officer". Who knows, it was extremely dark and people make assumptions all the time. Charles Lightoller didn't think it was Murdoch.
The people stayed on board as long as possible because the water temperature was too cold. At the temperature a person could only survive for 15 to 45 minutes
Thought I'd address this burning issue: something to consider in terms of the 'half full' boats, the 65 total grading was for "Floating Capacity". As you can see in the film, these boats were lowered by hand, usually only 1 or 2 men per rope, there were 2 ropes or lines per boat ie: their strength determined "Lowering Capacity". Look at the evacuation of the Lusitania as an example of how this process could go wrong. Oceanliner Designs has a 20 minute animation on this that helps to settle this particular debate, in my opinion.
Te thing with this movie is that rewatching there is so much to catch you’ve never noticed before. It’s over 3 hours long but it’s a movie that still has a lot of value in rewatching. I also think it did A LOT to really put the human element back into the disaster. Like so much unfeeling bd desperation is show . Good bd bad, even the people who seemed cowardly and selfish, I like that you were spot on in recognizing this is a situation where people will act in the worst ways to save themselves but there’s a point here it comes down to instinct driven by pure fear.
Like the guy who grabs onto Rose bd almost drowns her. He wasn’t being malicious, he was actively drowning like everyone around him and grabbed onto the rarest floating thing. I mean, thinking about it, the steward Tommy punched out might not have woken up before that hall flooded. That guy drowning Rose Jack punched out may have drowned directly from that. But it’s. desperate situation bd trying to survive in. situation where all they can do is survive themselves… it’s people doing what they have to.
We ont like the guy who refused to go back and yelled at Molly but he really does present the good point that with *1500* people in the water concentrated in or area, their boat build to hold 65 had a very real possibility of being dragged down and broken apart from the sheer desperation of the people in the water. You wouldn’t even blame the people in the water because they’re in no position to be anything other than trying to save themselves.
But yeah, as the ship is sinking and knowing there’s only half enough lifeboats, knowing hundreds of people WILL die no matter how perfectly they fill the boats or if they were calm and orderly, I think this movie did a phenomenal job conveying how horrific it is for this level of disaster to hit with that lack of preparation due to well… frankly never having such a situation. It’s because of Titanic lifeboats went from a tool to ferry passengers to the rescuing ship to having to be able hold the entirety of the ships passengers and crew. They never considered that a heavily trafficked route wouldn’t have a boat nearby enough to rescue everyone.
The thing though… that i think really changes how I’ve seen the sinking part of the movie is well… one of the weirdest and idk of maybe insulting comparisons? Thing is there’s only one other disaster with such a massive loss of life and having seen the actual real world reaction. 9/11 is so documented and has so much footage on the ground of people on the ground reacting to something they never imagined happening. They’re two different irrational entirely, one terrorist attack and one. ship sinking from a perfect storm of events to lead up to such a huge disaster. One in pure daylight and one in pitch blackness. Shit, even the vehicles involved are as far apart as you can get, planes and a ship.
But watching the sinking now, people choosing whether jumping or staying put is the way they want to die, the desperation and confusion, not knowing the whole situation and how to handle it but mostly… man, mostly it’s the screaming. It’s the screaming and fear from the footage on the ground, people crying and yelling, even down to the “oh god!”s.
They’re only compatible in the beer scale of lives lost. But it’s the footage and seeing the people from 9/11 that makes me watch the sinking scenes in Titanic hit pretty different just because the suffering feels more real and it’s really impressive that Cameron and really everyone… just… captured it.
And I think that’s important to showing a disaster movie, especially based on something that really happened. Like you were saying, how the team diving to the Titanic went from an analytical/clinical understanding of the Titanic and the facts of what happened but never really understood what it meant to be one of the human beings really there.
One of things I liked tat was subtle was how Bodine changed in his ways of talking to Rose. He insisted she was a liar before she arrived, he had no thought about how Rose might feel about the imitation and the way he resented it. I think the subtle thing that shows he’s more respectful of Rose and what she went through is he is saying “he had the iceberg warning in his fucking hand!” and then apologized for the swearing and says again. He seems to have grasped the humanity of the situation by then, frustrated by how they had what is in hindsight a neon sign telling them to be careful. He’s very invested in the story, asking “what happened next?” He was just as fascinated as everyone else, but he’s the only one who asks even if it’s really just a “so did you do it?” question. I like how Rose in the present day conducts herself really. You see that upper class kind of wit and way of handling people.
I know I’ve really gone on a rant here but I’ve been watching a lot of reactions and so have been thinking about this movie a lot. One f my favorite things for Rose’s growth brought on by Jack is how she’s gradually empowered to live a life that she wants and that she is in charge of her destiny.
When Jack talks her to the other side of the railing, when he says she doesn’t want to do it, her scolding him for it feels like the natural reaction of someone at the end of her rope not needing another person telling her what she wants and what she’ll do.
And thing is, Jack SEES that. She can only save herself. He turns it though into a situation where he’ll have to just get himself in trouble and she’s the only one with the power to get him out of it. He makes a comment about the cold water and Rose asks about how cold. It’s not him telling her not to, it’s him giving her more information to consider. But he brings it back around to “I’m not looking forward to jumping in after you…” and asking her to get him off the hook and so she accepts. From that moment, he enabled her to act for herself. When the ship is sinking bd he’s trapped is where you really see Rose stand up on her own two feet after being guided to it. She’s searching for someone to help her save Jack but the moment she breaks the glass on that ax is where she’s taking the entire situation into her hands.
Jack really did save her in every way a person can be saved and it’s just… such a well crafted arc.
So the table flip wasn’t scripted….Kate didn’t know he was gonna do that, so her reaction was real. Also, jumping into the water would’ve been deadly because of how cold it was. The sinking happened in April in the mid Atlantic, and even though it was spring time…..the water was below freezing. As you saw from the clip of the boats returning to find everyone dead….they were all frost bitten from the water.
If you still don't know when this movie came out there was 7 people that was still alive from the Titanic left.and out of that 7 one or 2 had seen the movie the rest didn't want to live the memories again
Fun fact: the amount of time between the iceberg hitting and Titanic going under in the movie is the exact amount of time it took for the real Titanic to sink.
That's not really correct. The Titanic hits the iceberg at the 1hr 40m mark in the film, but the movie only has 1h 30m left at this point - Titanic took 2h and 40m to sink.
What it really is, is that if you add up all the 1912 scenes together, they add up to like 2hr 20m, which is close to the 2h 40m the ship took to sink.
Contrary to what this movie has you thinking, early on to the voyage captain smith got multiple ice warnings he instead of sticking to course he steers the ship further south to the Gulf Stream further south then they expected icebergs. Also the night before the ship sank the Marconi wireless set broke down and it wasn’t until passed midnight where the operators repaired it as the ship sank in the 14-15th they frequently added more and more power to keep sending the distress call until the final moments where the water reached the electrical equipment in the room shutting down the wireless equipment. Also titanic was sailing only with 9 boilers lit they didn’t light the last 3 until after the ship begun to sink to add more steam for lights and the distress calls
Not the Gulf Stream, but the Southern Seaways. They altered course by maybe 3 nautical miles, which was enough to put the ship into an area where no ice reports were coming from.
Also, the Marconi set broke the night before, and was repaired by midnight of the 14th, not the 15th - it was operational and working throughout the 14th and up to the point they hit the iceberg and sank.
Also also, the ship was steaming with 25 boilers lit, not 9. The last four were never lit, not even during the sinking, because Boiler Room 6 is the furthest boiler room forward and was the first one to flood.
30:02 correction :: He never abandoned the ship, he got on after making sure there werent any women & children around who could have gotten on, and in real life he never told the captain to go faster, he owned the ship but he was travelling as a passanger so he actually had no say on what speed to go. Unfortunately he was slandered by a rival after the sinking because he made the choice to get in a life boat when it was perfectly okay for him to do so in the first place. The guy's name was Bruce Ismay and this movie unfortunately portrayed him according to the slanderizations and not actually accurate to how the guy was in real life.
Indeed, there is witness testimony that supports Ismay's assertion that he was actually ordered into the lifeboat.
This movie and all the movies before did Bruce Ismay "the coward" dirty.
Ismay was the president of the ship. The White Star line and all this negativity is comming from one witness report. And one telegram Ismay sent, after Titanic sank. The witness account in the newspaper was "With engines running good, ... beat Olympic and reach New York Tuesday" and his Telegram "Need quick passage to England" These headlines ruined his life.... However there was more to it, much more. He had a personal fude with Randolf Hurst, who basically owned the american press. Hurst took this horrorfing day, do destroy his rival Ismay.
Because the witness E. Lessli said that Ismay never wanted a speed record and her full statement was from a conversation she heard between Ismay and Captain Smith. Ismay: "Ship is doing fine, engines running good, we might beat Olympic and reach New York Tuesday, not Wednesday"
Also the telegram. On board Carpatia he had ordered two messages to New York. First "Titanic sank, 1500 dead, do what you can." But because anyone wanted to send a message to their loved once, his message was never send, it was lost in the inbox. Second "Need quick passage to England" Of corse he needed that. He was the head of the company and he needed to get back to buisseness.
But Hurst took what he needed and doomed this man for the next century to come.
However one sad fact about the white Star line. The familys of the musicans and crew got charged, by White Star, for "losing company property" namely uniforms and instruments. They lost in court, but desided to pay only half of the wages, because "Half a trip, half payment"
Fun Fact: James Cameron, the director, is actually the one who drew that picture of rose not Jack
And also u cant tell everyone that this is the first timr you've seen this movie i mean it came out in 1997 it eas sudh a bug movie made lots of money i mean i don't think there's anyone who hasn't seen it
If you think her husband is a bad guy here, you should see what he does to Nicole Kidman in the movie Dead Calm.
One more note- about when the lights went out. DEFINITELY worse. In real life, it would have been MUCH darker out, so when the lights failed it would be like going nearly blind. The men who presumably worked to keep the circuit breakers on even as the electrical room flooded are heroes. they fought to keep the lights on as long as possible to give people light to escape.
I'm from Spain and I don't understand anything. But I'm going to subscribe for 2 reasons:
1: Titanic is one of my top 5 favorite movies of all time / 2: I love that Xbox Series S controller you have on the table
Awww muchas gracias 🙏🏼🤍 veo “encanto” (la película) en español, pronto 😊
@@icedquokka Aqui estare para verlo ^^
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♡ *Catch Me If You Can* (2002)
_Leonardo DiCaprio , Tom Hanks & Christopher Walken_
Directed by *Steven Spielberg*
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Believe it or not the sweeping shot had some pretty new effects that was only implemented first in Titanic, it may seem dated but boy it was never attempted until this film because they had to.
14:14 .. girl please ... get rid of those micro-edits ..it is really annoying after a while . 🙃 be just you , without effects . 🙏😊
I think it’s cute
@susieq984 maybe those edits are her personality
I'm kind of shocked at the longevity that the film, _The Holiday_ has. It opened to quite middling reviews and it's honestly the only Nancy Meyers film people seem to remember other than _The Parent Trap_ .
The whirlpool would suck you down from the boat going under
Many specialists concluded that if the Titanic had crashed head on, would have floated. However, with that side slot, it was hopelessly flooded. But they also, most of them, concluded that the right decision was trying to dodge the iceberg.
my theory is the ship would've probably stayed afloat a lot longer maybe like 10-15 hours considering only 1 out the 5 compartments was flooded which would buy them more than enough time for help to arrive and save everybody onboard but we'll never know
Even taking it head on, it would have sunk… but the experts think it would have bought them a few hours. Time enough for the SS Carpathia to arrive and take people off before it sunk. All they needed was 4 hours.
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@@coreyortiz9913 The Titanic would not have sank with 1 compartment flooded. She could remain afloat even if 4 were completely flooded.
The movie is both fiction and nonfiction. Fiction part is Jack and Rose and their families. Nonfiction or true parts is the passengers like Molly Brown and Jon Astor ect were real passengers. Molly Brown did survive. Cameron did a great job mixing these stories together. It humanizes the people and the tragedy of the sinking.
The movie is about 90% fiction.
The unsinkable Molly Brown . SHE SURVIVED THE TITANIC!!!!!¡!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ralphgomez6251 Fun fact: She was never referred to as Molly, but Maggie. The name didn't come until the Unsinkable Molly Brown. By that time, she had already passed away. This is confirmed by her great-granddaughter, Helen.
You should watch Revolutionary Road it stars both Kate and Leo as well.
For someone who hasn't seen the movie, you seemed pretty good with the foreshadowing! 😀
First time reaction to a valley-girl Australian accent. Did not know the two existed together.
Rose died in the end, after she throws the heart in the ocean. She was meeting Jack in Heaven by the clock
The biggest WTF in cinema history. She had 84 years of life, a husband, children, family and friends and yet, she screwed them all, spending afterlife on a ship she hated "a Slave ship", 1500 people she didnt know and one guy she had met 3 days before...
It's not confirmed she died
@@AlexandruCarjan It's up to the viewer, though the alternate ending makes it more apparent.
@@AlexandruCarjan technically not, however Cameron said, to him, she died. Also look at the facts. She visits Titanic after her lifes full circle. The wreck transformed into the ship , there are only people who died, also the staircase clock shows 2.20, the moment the last bit of the Stern went down.
@thomasnieswandt8805 If it weren't for Jack intervening she would have jumped from the ship...no future at all. Even if she didn't jump she'd be living a completely miserable life with Cal. Jack was her Liberator, her first True Love, that tends to stick out in a woman's heart that's as deep as the ocean. How could anyone else compare? Your comment is the biggest L in comment history 🤣
God this woman doesn’t actually understand anything about what happened on Titanic’s sinking.
All the named Characters not directly connected to Jack & Rose (who were not real passengers) are based on real passengers.
Please react to Rush hour 1,2 and 3 starring Jackie Chan and Chris tucker. So many action and hilarious scenes. You will love them. All classics
invested in movie... that means good movie from my perspective
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This part here, was unscripted. And holy crap, did that genuinely terrified Kate Winslet for real during that scene where Cal throws in a fit of rage by flipping that table...with ONE hand. Class acting goes to Billy Zane!!! 👏👏
Great Reaction Sweetheart ❤,To One Of My All Time Favorite Movie's
As far as Leonardo DiCaprio movies go, I recommend Inglourious Basterds.
The sad thng is the movie depicted some characters wrong and cut out some really great scenes that happened on that night.
Like the fight between the wireless operators from the titanic and from the californian that escalated. The wireless operator of the californian then shuts down his system and heads for bed.
Later that evening, the first officer on board the californian saw the lights of the sinking titanic but his captain fought it was the stars on the ocean so they ignored it.
Or the scene where captain smith ordered boat 6 to return to the titaanic to take on more passengers, because it only had 12. Boat 6 refused the orders.
And sadly they depicted william murdoch wrong. He was the reason a huge majoity of the passenger survived. He took everybody he could on the liveboats. First woman and children, after there where none left the man where allowed to fill in. Lighttoller and most other officers misinterpreted the orders to woman and children only.
Funfacts
Also the reason why the lookout didnt saw the iceberg earlier was because the binoculars where missing. Shortly before titanics departure one of the officers got switched. The one that left the titanic had the keys to the cuppord with him as he left the ship, and forgott to hand it over.
Also the crew wasnt prepared for a sinking. A few days before the desaster occured there was a evac training planned. but captain smith thought it wasnt necessary to do it, because of the size of the ship and his years of experience. So when the tragic moment occured most of the crewmembers didnt realy had any training for this case.
The carpathia (the ship that came to titanics aid) drove through the icefield to save them. They where in high speed and pushed the mashines to the limit. the crew was ready to take in as many as possible, and only as the sun started setting the captain saw the fact that they drove in high speed through an enormus ice field, without hitting anything. The titanic drove into the same icefield until she hid an berg.
The titanic was also the first ship that ever used S.O.S It was completely new at that time and as the catastrophe occured they where the first to use it.
The wireless operators on Titanic didn't fight with the one on Californian. Phillips simply signaled "Shut up, shut up! Keep out, I am working cape race". This was typical banter for wireless operators back then and would have been the norm.
Lightoller didn't misinterpret Smith's orders. Captain Smith was right there with him, helping to load lifeboats throughout the sinking.
Binoculars would have made no difference that night. Binoculars aren't used by lookouts to do their job, they're only used to zoom in and identify an object once it's been spotted. Cover your eyes with your hands like binoculars and see how much around you that you can see. Not much right? Binoculars restrict your field of vision and a lookout needs to be able to see EVERYWHERE around the ship's bow, not just directly in front.
The crew were not ill-prepared at all. A lifeboat drill the day the ship would later hit the iceberg was cancelled so Captain Smith could lead a 1st class church service, but the Titanic's crew had already done three lifeboat drills. One quick one in Belfast before leaving, one during her sea trials, and one at the Southampton docks a few days before passengers boarded.
James Cameron hired a crew of mariners and naval architects to make a replica of Titanic's lifeboat systems, and they worked together to load and launch a lifeboat, timing themselves. They worked pretty quickly, but after looking at their stopwatches, they realized Titanic's crew had outperformed their record and by a wide margin. Titanic's crew performed amazingly that night.
The Titanic didn't drive into an icefield. At the latitude Titanic found herself, the ice was actually much further West, and they never saw any until the iceberg that they hit. Many survivors stated that they saw icebergs everywhere in the morning when Carpathia came to get them, but nobody at the time realized just how far North the lifeboats had all drifted through the night, thanks to the currents. In fact, Smith adjusted Titanic's course ("turned the corner") late enough in the voyage (April 14th) that the ship was 3nm further South than originally intended, pointing the ship into an area of ocean where NO ice warnings were coming from.
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Oh it seems some of my informations where wrong, or outdated. I didnt knew that, thanks for the informations. ^w^
Awesome coolest funniest amazing and lovely reaction every time 🎉❤
Treasure hunting isn’t looting and it isn’t piracy.
And I think they were hunting for notoriety. It would probably end up on a museum. In the 1998 expedition, the largest piece from Titanic was recovered. The initial failed 1996 expedition got huge press and even a cruise ship with notable celebrities came out to witness. Unfortunately, the piece was so heavy that it almost pulled the recovery vessel and the rope was severed. At the time, they reported that the line snapped because of the currents to cover for near tragedy. The second attempt was successful and the piece went on an exhibition tour. Now it's at the Titanic Artifact Exhibit at the Luxor in Vegas.
:26 the reason for the long run time is once it strikes the iceberg. It sinks in real time. James Cameron wanted to match the rest of the movie with the amount of time it took Titanic to sink.
The Titanic does not sink in realtime in the film. This semi-fact is most often misquoted.
What IS the case, is that if you add up all the 1912 scenes together, it equals about 2hr 38min which is very close to the 2hr 40min it took the Titanic to sink.
@pc_buildyb0i935 The scenes set in 1912, i.e. the whole movie except the present-day scenes and the opening and ending credits, have a total length of two hours and forty minutes, the exact time it took for Titanic to sink. Also, the collision with the iceberg reportedly lasted 37 seconds, which is how long the collision scene is in the movie.
@@johndrews206 Reread my comment. It doesn't sink in realtime, and the total 1912 scenes added up is 2hr 38min like I said. The film itself is 3hr 14min. The iceberg collision scene is basically realtime though
@@pc_buildyb0i935 i posted another comment that didn't go through. I stated that you were correct. It didn't sink in real time.
@@johndrews206 Ah okay my bad, I hate it when UA-cam does that. It looks like it's their automated system too, there's no rhyme or reason to it
If you like long tearjerkers from the nineties, try Saving Private Ryan.
I'm a different generation than you, and live in a different country, but I am surprised they didn't teach you about the Titanic in school. We learned all about it in Canada
Not sure what school you went to, but I also live and grew up in Canada and Titanic wasn't talked about in a single class I ever took.
@@pc_buildyb0i935 Marathon ON. This would have been the early 80s. We discussed Titanic, and if I recall, "A Night to Remember" was on television that weekend
@@pc_buildyb0i935 (I probably should explain: "A Night to Remember" is also a portrayal of the events of the disaster (without the immorality in this version))
@@SJHFoto Oh no need to explain. I've been a Titanic nut for 30 years. I'm familiar with ANTR haha, it's very good on its own. In all honesty, even with its issues and inaccuracies, I prefer the 1997 film over ANTR.
@@pc_buildyb0i935 This was a good movie in most aspects, but I didn't like the immorality between the two main characters
So spitting grosses you out, is that just when other people spit or your spit also? For example, let's say your boyfriend asks you to spit in his mouth, would that gross you out?
Because it was the biggest Most luxury Ship of that time , And the size in combination with the new material and the arrogance of the elit.
The hand that drew the picture of Rose was in fact James Cameron
Some people just make you think.
You gotta react to another Leonardo dicaprio movies like " Django" and " Blood Diamond"
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The water that night was only 28°f less than 0°c
She had a full life with the love of her husband, children and grand children. A whole life! And the thing she thinks about some homeless guy she hooked up 60 years before! How romantic...
He wasn't just some homeless guy, he was the catalyst of her freedom
It wasn't the lookouts fault, Titanic was killed by the weather, the difference in cold water and slightly warmer air caused a temperature mirage which made the icebergs impossible to see until they were nearly right on top of it.
The cold water mirage theory has been disproven. It was historian Tim Malton who pulled it out of his ass. Titanic was killed by a combination of bad luck and good hubris.
@@unpro04 No, it hasn't, because it's a real weather phenomenon that happens. I live at a similar latitude, on the East Coast, and not only do we happen to get icebergs and blackbergs, we also get the polar inversion mirage. No hubris at all was involved in the Titanic disaster, that's what pop culture Titanic asserts - not historical Titanic.
@pc_buildyb0i935 "No hubris at all" oh you sweet summer child.
@@unpro04 I'm a 30-year old man with a 27-year old Titanic obsession. Don't patronize me.
@pc_buildyb0i935 And people aren't allowed different opinions? Calling your ship unsinkable (don't tell me about "practically"), resulting in sheer denial of the fact that the ship is still able to sink too quickly for their archaic evacuation method to play out, is what doomed the lives of her passengers. The arrogance to presume your design is so perfect, a cruel but fitting irony for her to sink on her maiden voyage. It was also the hubris of Captain E.J. Smith and his crew to presume the worst of the ice was north of their position, despite receiving several warnings of the ice ahead.
My favorite character is cale. Hes the real victim here.
1- Di Caprio has italian heritage, so he's not "💯 american" like you say at one point.
2- What's that "WwWwOoOoOo" thing?
WwWwWoOoOo.
Mah.
I'd love seeying you watching "Somewhere in Time", starring Christopher Reeve (Superman). ^^
This movie was completely destroy your mascara 😂😂😂
I ugly cried in the theater, but not for Jack and Rose as they weren't real. I cried for the true suffering and tragedy that occurred to the real passengers.
Same honestly 😭 was so horrific
Where is that little girls parents?? Did they just leave that little girl??
The wreck was discovered in 1985 using just an underwater camera. The following year, there was an actual trip to the wreck.
Some footage from the movie was actually from a dive taken to the Titanic about ten years later. James Cameron used the footage to convince movie executives to greenlight the movie.
@ronfehr7899 Did you know that Cameron demanded a higher budget before the sinking shots were filmed? The studio said no. So James Cameron told them that he would forfeit his pay and all residuals. He got the budget, but he also never got paid a cent from the movie, and he is okay with that. His whole reason for making the movie was to get to go to the wrecksite. However, with the premiere screening, he was terrified that it was going to perform terribly. What's worse was that the film was so long and tight on the reel that it snapped during the middle of the screening. He was livid because he was worried that people were going to leave. This also meant getting a backup film cannister and starting the movie over from the beginning. However, everyone not only waited, but they stayed and watched until the end. The screening audience loved it, and all was well.
@Chris-vk2zw The way I heard it explained was that Cameron went down to the site, spending his own money. The footage that he brought back was so good that it basically forced an increase in the budget.
As for the rest, that I did not know. Thank you for informing me.
For the real story, watch the movie”A Night To Remember “
While it's a great movie it also took a LOT of liberties when portraying the real people that were on the ship. UA-camrs like Historic Travels and Oceanliner Designs have gone over Titanic's story in detail, with the former going into the stories of the people.
Lol you saying its so evil while cal actually saved that child 😂 sure, selfish reasons but he still saved her.