New idea that is so dumb it JUST might work. Anti-Duel: a custom 1v1 where you're both Herc, max cooldown, or overcapped cooldown, if possible. The goal of the game is to die to the enemy tower 5 times and you have to try to use your CC to stop the enemy from dying to tower. It sounds really dumb (bc it is) but I feel like it might be fun to watch! Much love and congrats on the marriage, big pog GGEZ VER VEW!
I'd love and I mean LOVE to see a left field 1v1 of you vs barra. that would be so much fun. this vid has the same vibes as trying to get your friend to play a new game he definitely doesn't like and you're just trying to make sure he has fun and he definitely isn't haha
@@josephradford9665 look man, I don't wanna be mean but instead of enjoy the moment all incon did this whole video was complain. He should have understood Sam was better and leaned into it, but he just cried the whole match.
@@Up2_nogood umm dude. Incon literally played joust and duel to hit ranked masters in all three game modes. Sam has more exp in duel but is not the better overall player. If you actually listen to what each other has to say to each other, you would realize incon throw more pointers than "complaining".
@@Up2_nogood maybe you should rewatch the video because he does not complain the whole game. He actually made Sam's mind go blank explaining how they should rework duel. Sam doesn't have the usual comebacks vs incon as he does someone like rexsi or trellis. Which in my opinion Trellis is also a better overall player, maybe not duel, just and better overall player
The problem with Incon's version of duel is that, by taking off minion waves and buff camps, there's no farm to be had, so you can't gain extra gold on top of what you start each round with. That means that a lot of good items would never be built because their gold cost breakpoints don't line up properly with the total gold you have. People would always start with the same builds, and it would completely nullify stacking items.
Also also, always playing mirror matches removes the intricacies and fun out of match-ups. Whoever misses 1 ability loses, or usually, whoever uses their ability first loses. Yes it would be "fair" but if you look at it that way, Comquest isnt fair either... or should both teams now be forced into whole mirror matches?
With 120 gods in the roster and only like 20 (if im being generous) being meta in duel at a time, theres like a ~83% chance that youd get a non meta character and a ~17% chance that youd get a meta character to pick from. So if you had 5gods to choose from in the end, it would end up with only having 1 meta character to choose from per match.
With a few amendments I kinda like Incon's suggestion. By taking out extra farm the match entirely comes down to itemisation and mechanical skill. Really what duel should be about tbh. It'd be great if you couldn't see opponent builds either. That way there is some strategy to itemisation. Do you predict you need AH or pen, or do you go full dmg and think they are going to be squishy etc.
I think a neat way to do it is to change it so each player has 2 bans and instead of banning 1 god, each one bans an entire category of gods and force a class mirror match.
duel isnt a spectator gamemode. Making and catering it towards that ruins it for the people that play the gamemode, in doing that makes it a spectator gamemode.
I feel duel would be more fair if you picked like 3 gods of one role each that opponent can see like in joust that stay in fountain and they all scale with players current lvl and gold and you can switch through them in the fountain (each god gets a different build you put together) respawn timer is the same so one god dies you cant just sit and spam defending the titan (or ticket mode limited to how much lives each player has) and would put a new aspect on the game like who you play early, mid, and late game and makes it so your not completely countered each match and the better player is usually going to win in theory
They just need to remove buffs and side camps from the duel map. So you can only clear wave minions and bull demon, I feel like it would close the skill gap so much. Farming gods would no longer be meta.
Just call it gentleman’s duel. Mirror matching with random picks. Same 3/5/10/15/20 rules as incon suggested but with highest damage/first kill over a 3 minute period with zero defence (or 1 defence item).
Incon's idea doesn't sound that appealing at all. There is barely any variation in a mirror 1v1. It's basically a set order of who uses which spell first or later I feel like. Only exception might be ADC-s because it's more about properly hitting autos.
That would be literally awful. It would turn into an rng god game mode. Not to mention kill off 90% of the duel player base. Maybe something like this would work as a motd at best.
@@SlamMyClam like I said, most people disagree. But let's say that you get 5 prepicked bans. Then it random picks both gods and you can see the matchup. Then you each get 2 blackball rerolls. It would force out the one trick ponies while giving you a pretty decent shot at a fun matchup.
Agreed. They should've made this map the joust map if they wanted to bring it back. Makes no sense to keep the smaller of the two maps in a 3v3 mode instead of 1v1.
New idea that is so dumb it JUST might work. Anti-Duel: a custom 1v1 where you're both Herc, max cooldown, or overcapped cooldown, if possible. The goal of the game is to die to the enemy tower 5 times and you have to try to use your CC to stop the enemy from dying to tower. It sounds really dumb (bc it is) but I feel like it might be fun to watch! Much love and congrats on the marriage, big pog GGEZ VER VEW!
That's dumb, and I would watch the crap out of it. Great idea 😂
You should play conquest with Incon to make it fair since he obviously suffered this game
Incon gonna be screwed when he doesn’t have a 5 stack 🤷🏾♂️
@@aguyyes1 lmao
@@aguyyes1 can’t 5 stack in ranked, yet there are pros in his queues. Lol
Sam is so strong that he can suicide faster than his enemy
These are my favorite kinds of videos. Creator collaboration always makes me happy
Glad you guys did this! Can’t wait for more collabs
I'd love and I mean LOVE to see a left field 1v1 of you vs barra. that would be so much fun.
this vid has the same vibes as trying to get your friend to play a new game he definitely doesn't like and you're just trying to make sure he has fun and he definitely isn't haha
Still not better than incon
@@josephradford9665 look man, I don't wanna be mean but instead of enjoy the moment all incon did this whole video was complain. He should have understood Sam was better and leaned into it, but he just cried the whole match.
@@Up2_nogood umm dude. Incon literally played joust and duel to hit ranked masters in all three game modes. Sam has more exp in duel but is not the better overall player. If you actually listen to what each other has to say to each other, you would realize incon throw more pointers than "complaining".
@@josephradford9665 hardly.
@@Up2_nogood maybe you should rewatch the video because he does not complain the whole game. He actually made Sam's mind go blank explaining how they should rework duel. Sam doesn't have the usual comebacks vs incon as he does someone like rexsi or trellis. Which in my opinion Trellis is also a better overall player, maybe not duel, just and better overall player
The problem with Incon's version of duel is that, by taking off minion waves and buff camps, there's no farm to be had, so you can't gain extra gold on top of what you start each round with. That means that a lot of good items would never be built because their gold cost breakpoints don't line up properly with the total gold you have. People would always start with the same builds, and it would completely nullify stacking items.
Also also, always playing mirror matches removes the intricacies and fun out of match-ups. Whoever misses 1 ability loses, or usually, whoever uses their ability first loses. Yes it would be "fair" but if you look at it that way, Comquest isnt fair either... or should both teams now be forced into whole mirror matches?
u could adjust the gold per round.. incon only gave a brief idea /example ...
@@deltaknight1751 or .. smite can randomly choose FEW .. instead of ONE. .then we can pick from that few list..
@@jukkininth4837 well if it gave you the choice between Sylvanus, Freya, Da Ji and Nox... I know that 99% of the games would still be mirrors...
With 120 gods in the roster and only like 20 (if im being generous) being meta in duel at a time, theres like a ~83% chance that youd get a non meta character and a ~17% chance that youd get a meta character to pick from. So if you had 5gods to choose from in the end, it would end up with only having 1 meta character to choose from per match.
"What should my next time be?"
BREASTPLATE 🤣 Touche my friend lol
Can't wish for a better video than having 2 of my favorite smite streamers (and human beings) play together.
This is a great video boss Incon and you are hilarious in duel 😂
With a few amendments I kinda like Incon's suggestion.
By taking out extra farm the match entirely comes down to itemisation and mechanical skill. Really what duel should be about tbh.
It'd be great if you couldn't see opponent builds either. That way there is some strategy to itemisation. Do you predict you need AH or pen, or do you go full dmg and think they are going to be squishy etc.
Now duo queue conquest with Incon pleeeeease
That response after what should I buy at the end had me laughing my ass off
My favorite two UA-camrs ever! A dream come true!
Same here brother
Love seeing this crossover #InDaDude
I think a neat way to do it is to change it so each player has 2 bans and instead of banning 1 god, each one bans an entire category of gods and force a class mirror match.
i love how yall talked about Battlerite. I loved Battlerite but sadly it doesnt have a big player base.
I wish Battlerite was still popular, was top 100 for a bit :(
Good video. Algorithm. Smite. Married.
This duel idea is actually really good from Incon. I love duel tbh, but it'd be so much better in that context. Probably a best of 7 👌
This is just proof that top tier conquest players can't just hop in the ring with a top tier dual player.
the strongest men in the Smite Community
Man gotta love someone coming in saying I don't like thing change thing and alienate people who like thing originally
Wut
Holy English
I always love watching Sam 1v1 other content creators. Thanks!
Love the content creator 1v1s. Looooved incon being a noob, and ENJOYING it. The man had a good time taking an L, we should learn from him
I feel like Sam kind of had to carry these conversations🙈 funny video tho
I love the mclovin shirt lmao
yo the two legends
Props for just gaming!
duel isnt a spectator gamemode. Making and catering it towards that ruins it for the people that play the gamemode, in doing that makes it a spectator gamemode.
Huh?
@@SlamMyClam reread?
Fun fact: Battlerite was the follow up to Bloodline Champions. I miss Bloodline Champions
It was so good.
I feel duel would be more fair if you picked like 3 gods of one role each that opponent can see like in joust that stay in fountain and they all scale with players current lvl and gold and you can switch through them in the fountain (each god gets a different build you put together) respawn timer is the same so one god dies you cant just sit and spam defending the titan (or ticket mode limited to how much lives each player has) and would put a new aspect on the game like who you play early, mid, and late game and makes it so your not completely countered each match and the better player is usually going to win in theory
Id love a fighting game based on smite kinda like theyre doing with league. 1v1 would be so good.
going to play the final test of paragon overprime?
Conquest now brother. Lol u know u have too 🤣😂
I really do like Incons idea for 1v1 it’d be a true test of skill and itemization
aways a good match with Incon or Trelli
So happy to see my two favorite streamers in the same video! Thanks guys!
Bro the skill cap between you guys is insane it would’ve been so much better if it was actually a competitive game tho
cant really compare that when one is a ex pro conquest player who never plays duel lmao vs a dude who plays duel all time
@lilelfman the game modes are played completely different... you snowball in duel it's pretty much over for them but what ever
Simply 2 of the most chill and nice smite creators playing together? Put me in! Now play some conquest together u two beautiful gamers
Couldn't agree more, two of my favourite streamers and it was just so fun to watch, especially the suiciding to phoenix xD
Please more with Icon if possible you two are awesome & cosy:)
Sam your just a GOD lol and that's saying a lot coming from your truly LordBeerus lol
Hell yea
hey brother you seriously have to get into Overprime...... its going to take over ma man
ribbit. love to see both my fav smite tubers playing together. btw...YEMOJA DUEL PLZ PLZ PLZ
They just need to remove buffs and side camps from the duel map. So you can only clear wave minions and bull demon, I feel like it would close the skill gap so much. Farming gods would no longer be meta.
Just call it gentleman’s duel. Mirror matching with random picks. Same 3/5/10/15/20 rules as incon suggested but with highest damage/first kill over a 3 minute period with zero defence (or 1 defence item).
incon is a good sport.
I think they should just have certain gods should be perma ban in duel plus the ban
Incon's idea doesn't sound that appealing at all. There is barely any variation in a mirror 1v1. It's basically a set order of who uses which spell first or later I feel like. Only exception might be ADC-s because it's more about properly hitting autos.
lol random question im just a youtube watcher and not twitch btw but are you and weak3n friends?
Weak boy trashed him in a vid so I’d assume not
@@nicksaeckl7346 oh fuck did not know that at all thanks for the info
@@nicksaeckl7346 weaken trashes everyone since he's an insecure prick who peaked in season 2.
Incon had the worst idea for smite
I dont play it but I enjoy watching duel how it is now.
Real talk, I wish that duel was random pick with blackball bans. No one seems to agree though
That would be literally awful. It would turn into an rng god game mode. Not to mention kill off 90% of the duel player base. Maybe something like this would work as a motd at best.
@@SlamMyClam like I said, most people disagree. But let's say that you get 5 prepicked bans. Then it random picks both gods and you can see the matchup. Then you each get 2 blackball rerolls. It would force out the one trick ponies while giving you a pretty decent shot at a fun matchup.
Epic!
Ngl this was fun
we NEED attack speed odinn pleasee
Incon being salty cause hes losing...
Not the first time conquest players try to flex xD
Say less
say more
Say exactly enough
Play Paragon
child abuse? youtube hasn't flagged this yet?🤔
Yooooo
Lol Incon's idea for smite is terrible
dont really watch or like incon much but i like the content. next is to vs every content creator who isnt a dueler now
"it's a friendly respawn" says incon. Samdadude is trash, IMO. Fight me anyone
nobody like this map, every duel player I know wants the other map this is just a PVE map
Agreed. They should've made this map the joust map if they wanted to bring it back. Makes no sense to keep the smaller of the two maps in a 3v3 mode instead of 1v1.