Pastiche - A Defence

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  • Опубліковано 13 лис 2023
  • Pastiche is something of a dirty word today - in fact, I'd say it's not even a properly understood word! But, every major artist (in any medium) has done a bit of it - The Beatles, Mozart, REM, Stevie Wonder, Arctic Monkeys... all of them!
    So, this is a video explaining what pastiche really is, looking at some famous examples, and trying to dispel some of the negative connotations of the word, as well as some misunderstandings. Pastiche is so much more than just copying another artist, or stealing their sound. And it certainly isn't plagiarism!
    Enjoy!
    #pastiche #music #musictheory

КОМЕНТАРІ • 11

  • @jamesdaniels487
    @jamesdaniels487 8 місяців тому +3

    Great video, and very informative, I always assumed that pastiche was just rip off, so thankfully I can use it in the correct way now.
    I think my favourite example of pastiche is Going Out by Supergrass, who are very obviously pastiching Revolver era Beatles, but it's no surprise a britpop band is imitating The Beatles, especially considering Oasis made a whole career of it.
    Could the spoken word outro to Thriller be a pastiche of Jeff Wayne's War Of The Worlds? It feels more similar to Richard Burton's narration than anything else.
    Also I just want to say how happy I am to see the growth of this channel, the first video of yours I saw was about why The Times They Are A-Changing is a great song, and each video is consistently better than the last!

    • @bigyellowpraxis
      @bigyellowpraxis  8 місяців тому +2

      Thanks for watching! Glad to have cleared that misunderstanding then haha.
      I always thought that Oasis actually sounded as much (or more) like Slade and T Rex as they did they Beatles. They just looked more like the Beatles, and so that's usually the go-to comparison. But yeah, it's all in there.
      It's a good question, but I doubt that War of the Worlds had much of an influence on Thriller - the album just wasn't very big at all in the US, so I'm not sure if MJ would even have heard it. And if he had, it wouldn't have been a reference most of the US audience would understand. I think it's more just that both are tuning into a similarly campy sort of narration
      Thanks so much! It's taken a lot of work to get it where it is, and hopefully it will continue to grow :)

  • @joemama-ej7kw
    @joemama-ej7kw 8 місяців тому +3

    Great video; i agree now that pastiche is a mostly positive thing in music, its also kind of unavoidable in a way. Everything a person hears/sees influences what they create, so in my opinion it’d be kind of disingenuous to claim a completely "original" composition that takes no notes from the work of others.
    I think paul mccartneys beatles era pastiches (im down, lady madonna) of specific artists are pretty good, but theyre definitely in a gray area between pastiche and imitation.
    Im glad the greatest band ever [the shaggs] got some well deserved recognition in this video
    I came across your channel like two days ago from the Til I Die video and i have to say im a fan! I’d love to see more beach boys theory type content in the future, but all your videos are pretty interesting and im excited to watch your channel grow!

    • @bigyellowpraxis
      @bigyellowpraxis  7 місяців тому +1

      Thanks so much! Glad you enjoy my videos, and I appreciate you taking the time to comment. Got loads of ideas for upcoming videos, so hopefully you'll continue to like my content.
      And yeah, pastiche is just such a huge topic, and covers so much that it's almost unavoidable.

  • @bernardmaasdijk734
    @bernardmaasdijk734 8 місяців тому +2

    Don't Touch Me There by The Tubes comes to mind, which is - excuse me for the overused phrase - awesome.
    Talking about Beatles basslines: Start by The Jam, another good one.
    All of Jethro Tull's Thick As A Brick, more enjoyable than some prog concept album master pieces.

    • @bigyellowpraxis
      @bigyellowpraxis  8 місяців тому

      I'd not heard 'Don't Touch Me There' - it's great! Could be a Meat Loaf tune in another life
      And I agree on Thick as a Brick. Thanks for watching :)

  • @petermccormack3786
    @petermccormack3786 3 місяці тому +1

    I thought 'pastiche' was a french pastry !? but seriously, consider Kate Bush. wonderfully, wildly original. as well as being wholly steeped in pastiche.

  • @fromchomleystreet
    @fromchomleystreet 11 днів тому

    It’s arguable that no music exists that ISN’T pastiche.

  • @fromchomleystreet
    @fromchomleystreet 11 днів тому

    Music that is 100% original is better known as noise.

  • @donnyradwell1599
    @donnyradwell1599 Місяць тому

    tranquility base slander, come on man use a Q-Tip

    • @bigyellowpraxis
      @bigyellowpraxis  12 днів тому +1

      Took your advice and used a Q-tip - sounds even worse now!