5-MEO-DMT, Integration, and Connecting With the Divine - Natasja Pelgrom

In this episode, Paul Austin, founder of Third Wave, and Natasja Pelgrom, leader of spiritual alchemy journeys and founding member of the Synthesis Institute, chat about Amsterdam nightclubs, healing ourselves, the power of 5-MeO-DMT, and the role of integration.
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[@obiclone]

THIS EXPERIENCE WAS EXTRAORDINARY
At the time you feel like you are really PURE energy, and that energy is all that exists.
(Start seeing the word “God” as an old timey word, best suited for a pre-science era, and just replace it with ENERGY)
And you, as the pure conscious energy, you made yourself mortal so that you could experience limitation and doubt, happiness, ALL emotions. (The pure conscious energy, cannot experience faith, surprise, fear, doubt, because it knows and controls all, and is non-dualistic, it is singular) It’s what if feels like. Also, you died, and you feel like you went through death, yet you’re still aware. So you feel like you can’t die, like if your body got blown to bits you’d still be “why am I still awake?”
Try this experiment, when you are alone with no noise, close your eyes and invent some random person, and pretend that this person has a life, friends, family, etc etc. Now, imagine what if you somehow made yourself forget that you made up this person, and all of his life, and somehow made yourself believe that you really were that imaginary character. If you could do that you would identify with that imaginary character rather than the YOU who just made up the character. You would forget that you made the whole thing up.
Well the imaginary character from my example is basically your ego, everything else including all the friends is the universe, and the dreamer is “the source, energy, God” etc etc.
BUT THIS ALL CAME FROM THE IMAGINATION FROM THE SOURCE, which is just energy and awareness, which is ALSO the Universe and Ego as well, it’s all the same.
You feel that your life is fake, there is no such thing as life or death, BUT, EVEN THOUGH IT IS FAKE, it STILL has a purpose.
The point of life is to live it, to experience everything and all emotions. But, don’t take it too seriously, because someday you’ll forget it, and start another one. You’re not meant to hold onto anything, including memories.
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[@GirlScoutCookies420]

Do you think the effects are temporary or do you think it’s true it can really permanently heal depression/anxiety?

[@DanielWithTheBalance]

🤯🤩🙌⚛️✨🔥

[@SugarSnakeSoul]

nice talk thank you !