Im trying to find the best SUV for my sister cause whatever she drives is likely what i’ll end up driving. I want her to get a Honda very badly. Good reliability. I aint drivin a used Chevy once in my life
Joe, I agree with your dislike of the front row armrests on the Pilot and Passport, reminding me of sitting in coach on an airliner. But I think you've ignored the rationale for the design. In most vehicles the front seat armrests double as the lid of a vehicle's center console. That means the console storage can be accessed by the front seat passenger only by disturbing/distracting the driver if the driver's elbow is resting on the armrest. Some vehicles employ a split opening on the console allowing the passenger to open one side but that's a compromise, at best. The Honda design enables a front seat passenger to open the console completely without affecting the driver. Personally, I'd prefer the armrests to be a bit wider but the design itself is reasonable and would avoid my wife repeatedly saying, "Honey, please move your arm so I can open the lid."
Have both, wife has a Pilot 2021, I have a Passport 2020. The Passport is a little sportier, but they are basically identically mechanically. Only difference is Pilot has 3 seats if needed. Also my Passport has all gloss black grill and trim.
I like the arm rests. If you don't use it, just fold it up. When I drive long distances, I rest my arm there as I don't need two hands on the steering wheel all the time cruising down the highway. The center console arm rest style never works for me as my arm needs to be a foot longer to even rest it to rest my elbow there.
25:22 hahaha great video you got confused a lot Honda pilot and it’s the password must be hard doing a review of both cars but excellent video my man 🙏🏻👍🏻
I test drove the Passport today and I drove it with the armrest at the highest point . Weird but it was so comfy that way to me ! Might be because I'm small ? But it didn't bother me at all , I loved it !
I like the passport look more. It looks more sport type and aggressive. Also in my opinion if the took so ideas of the interior layout from the new accord like the display and steering wheel than it would look amazing. Who else agrees?
Love the Pilot since the ‘19 refresh. Ended up buying an Elite. You mentioned zonking the steering wheel buttons but recently we had a Accord Loaner for a week and my god I was so happy to get my pilot back. Neither my wife or I cared for the goofy steering wheel buttons on the Accord. Just felt the layout on the Pilot was more intuitive and more comfortable to press while driving. Overall good review tho! 👍🏽
Every time I pull up behind a new Pilot in my new CRV I think to myself I have a way nicer ass. Did Honda just find out the patent on the '84 Dodge Caravan expired?
I'm puzzled as to why Florida car dealers order cars with black interior. I can see it works up north but it doesn't here. Why not lighter colors and not leather (which gets hotter than hell). Actually see lot cars that are black inside and out. Crazy!!!
I must be missing something here because I can't understand how these 2 vehicles do not compete against each other. I just don't see enough differences to justify the R&D expenditure. I understand they share a lot of hardware but I still don't get it. I'm positive Honda knows more than I do lol. Great comparison. I'd choose the Passport. Less chrome is more my style. Welcome back Tom
@@RaitisRides Maybe just make the 'Passport' an option package available for the Pilot. Call it a PilotSport as a little homage to the Passport name/lineage. Stay cool, brutha
I believe the Passport is slightly shorter in length, and a little more off road worthy than the Pilot. And they wanted to fill the niche between the Pilot and the CR-V. That's why they brought back the old nameplate. They had a reason for it, just like the Honda Civic Sport Sedan and Coupe with the non turbo 2.0L engine. It was specifically equipped that way to reach a more mainstream target audience of everyday consumers like me that is older, and was the sportiness in handling and appearance and well equipped at an affordable price, but a more reliable and problem free drivetrain, for possible use by many members of the family, even younger ones. At first I was not thrilled when they first came out with the info, but later realized it was perfect for what I wanted. I still might get one if I don't opt for the HR-V Sport with it's more versatile cargo utility.
Rob Eye Comparing the new pilot to my 2006 vehicle I have noticed that over the years the pilot was getting a bit longer and I had also read that they had dropped the entry about an inch. I like sitting up high in the vehicle. So I took notice of that. Also I don’t need the additional length in my garage for parking it which is now 6 inches longer than the current passport. I still can’t make up my mind. We also have a 2006 CRV and one of my problems is that the seat is not as comfortable, or as flat, as is my 2006 pilot. So I’m wondering, as apparently the seats are very close to being identical, what kind of seed it will have? I won’t know until I actually sit in them and try it out. I am a plus size woman and I have found it to be uncomfortable when the edges of the seat tried to cocoon you but in actuality they are pushing up against your hips and that becomes quite uncomfortable after a while.
I would buy the Passport if I could pick one. It’s a reliable suv with good power. My wife used to have a 2016 Pilot. I have a Honda CR-V and need a new suv in a year or two. I’ll consider this or a Kia Telluride but trust Honda more. I just don’t like the push transmission but hey at least it doesn’t have a turbo engine. I want that v-tech power v6 not a weak 4 banger. Guess I’ll be paying more for gas though lol.
The Passport is really starting to grow on me. I think I’ll wait 2-3 years and see how much they go for in the used market. I’ll let the first owner take the steep depreciation hit.
I was really hoping to do the same but that doesn't seem likely with how crazy the used car market is. Who would have guessed that used cars would be about the same as new. Plus most new cars are selling for over MSRP. Crazy times.
@@CONMAN-gx1qr Ya, I still don't get it. I understand that new cars are in short supply, but these prices are crazy. I'm still holding out with my 2010 Honda Accord. I'm dying to get into an AWD Crossover but I'm not paying over MSRP. I'm also not about to pay dang near new car prices for a 2 or 3 years old car. Another year or two and car prices will come back down.
@@KPHVAC Try looking at websites like carvana and driveway. There are actually some good deals. I'm getting a 2019 AWD Honda Passport Toring with 20,000 miles for $32,000
Fantastic vid bro! 37 min seemed long but u do not needlessly repeat yourself (my UA-cam pet peeve), ur pace is on point, u dive deep enough into details to keep it interesting!.. I’m a car guy & a 5x Honda guy, deciding between a 2019 Pilot vs Passport & this vid helped me heaps, like a friend was talking me thru these trucks, thx!! I’m def going Passport- found a Silver/black wheels 2019 Sport w/23k miles, $6k below kbb at a major dealership!! 🤙😎
I’m getting a Passport this month, but I’m not thrilled with the color choices. Very basic color choices. I wish it came in the Basque Red like the CRV instead of that ugly brownish looking red. So here I am now trying to figure out if I want a silver , black or white. I already own a dark grey silver Honda CRV.
Got my passport in the dark grey this week. Love it. The only thing I would change is more comfortable arm rests and the fact that you have to turn off the fuel saving engine stop/start every time you get in your car if you don’t want it to go in power save mode every time you’re at a red light. To me this should always be off unless you want to turn it on, not the other way around. Otherwise perfect SUV for me
I test drove the Passport and I can tell you that it has the most out of touch light steering I’ve ever experienced in a car. I kid you not, I’ve played video games where cars had better steering. I also happened to not like the cut off front and back from the side view. Car is spacious and the sound system is great, but I couldn’t get over the steering issue.
@@terence4427 The Passport wasn’t that much cheaper than the pilot at my dealer. If your going for elite brands the prices between the 2 are not that far off.
I'm not a fan of chrome and bling. I prefer more no nonsense, functional performance look, like my Buick GN and Impala SS blacked out/monochromatic look. Honda has been using the smoke chrome trim on the Accord and HR-V Sport and rear trim. They should use that on the the chrome emblems and Honda logo, too. The Pilot refresh is nice, with the nice wheels. The Passport Elite is more my speed, and style, slightly smaller with more off road capabity, and the storage area in the hatch like the Ridgeline pickup. I like the styling of most of the Sport performance Honda trim wheels, but the wheels on this Passport could be nicer. The gunmetal grey is fine with me. Sometimes the black wheels are too dark for my tastes, depending on overall colors and styling. For the gloss back trim areas, like the external roof pillars, mirrors, and flat grille/front fascia and interior could be covered with the clear protection film, if contours are not a problem to affix. Did you say it had a CD player on the Passport? Two paws up from the Ninjacat if so. If this is not the top of the line Elite, than I think the Elite has nicer wheels. The Passport Elite would probably be my main consideration for a larger offroad SUV, unless I get the Ford Explorer ST.
I bought myself a Passport Elite AWD with Adventure Package in Crystal Black Pearl. Really nice vehicle! Sporty, quiet, comfortable, capable and just what I need. Love the way it drives and rides and a vast improvement over my very dull but very practical, IMHO, 2015 Honda Pilot. The wife is not a fan of the Pilot but really loves the “attitude” the Passport exudes. Tough and menacing and yes, sporty. Inspires confidence.
@Robbin Saunders. I'm thinking about buying a PP. Do you still enjoy your PP? I've heard about problems with the infotainment system? Have you experienced any problems?
There’s so many more safety features not mentioned in this review. Too much camera time spent on identical design features when a brief mention would be enough.
Again the pilot can tow 5,000 lbs too with AWD. Kinda strange how you said the Passport can tow 5,000 lbs yet the model you were showing on this video was only 2WD.
Just got a Passport! Same feeling, i think the pilot is ugly with the chrome grill and rear end, passport is more agressive, who needs a third row? Get a mini van! It will be folded most of the time!
Amazing review Joe ...very nice way was you jumped from one SUV to another. 👍😎👌 Remember when I told you 100k subscribers coming at a theater near you ...we are almost there my friend !! 👍🤣🤣
a) I wasn't aware of a Passport and don't recall ever seeing one BUT I just traded my 2011 Pilot which I loved but it had 60,000 + miles and was "time" to trade. I love the new one also.
I think you should sign off by saying “see you on the rait side” ... this could be your slogan too! By rait side I mean, driving on the right side of the road, staying on the right side of humanity, and choosing the right way to life, give it a thought, make merch too!
Although those unpainted black plastic on the bumper and some other parts of the car looks nice, I would rather have them color match as those blacks are going to eventually fade and look uneven grayish.
At first (or even at third or fourth) glance, it appears that the Passport is a Pilot with 6.5" chopped off the rear end and some trim pieces that suggest a (very) slightly more "rugged" image. But that misses an important, if subtle, distinction. At 190" long, the Passport fits in the "tweener" sub-category of midsize crossovers competing against rivals such as the Ford Edge, the Hyundai Santa Fe, the Kia Sorento, Jeep Grand Cherokee, Chevy Blazer and the Subaru Outback, among others. The Pilot (196.5"), on the other hand, is virtually identical in length to the Subaru Ascent and the KIA Telluride, putting it right in the middle of larger midsize SUV's. That 6.5" shorter length in the Passport may not seem like a lot but if you fit a bike rack to the rear end, it can add 18"-24" additional length and make the difference between fitting into a garage with the door closed and leaving the garage door open. (I know.) With the exception of the Sorento all of the vehicles in the "tweener" class offer only two row seating and all but the Outback and Santa Fe offer standard or optional naturally aspirated V6 engines. The Passport fits neatly into the "tweener" category. And in the tweener group, the Passport is an appealing entry offering both strong performance and great cargo and passenger space. It isn't "class leading" in several respects. Some configurations of the Grand Cherokee are better choices for true "off roading," for example. The 2020 Outback, too, may outpoint the Pilot as an "off-roader." The Ford Edge ST is a bit quicker and the KIA Sorento's third row of seats is surprisingly useful on an occasional basis. But overall, the Passport is a strong contender especially with Honda's version of SH-AWD. On the other hand the Pilot, while a very good vehicle, faces some very tough competition, especially from the KIA Telluride. Same length (The KIA is 0.4" longer) but with considerably more passenger and cargo room in the KIA. The Pilot is a strong performer but its 0-60 time is mid-pack in in the larger midsize category. Lots of family friendly and clever storage features but the Pilot is not the new kid on the block and the Telluride has some significant advantages, especially in upper trim configurations. The Pilot's main advantage versus the Telluride is that you can actually purchase a Pilot without waiting in line. Honda needs to refresh the Pilot in the next model year to compete more effectively. All in all, for those who neither need nor want third row seating in a tidier size than larger midsize SUV's, the Passport is a strong all round choice. Its major shortcomings center on the absence of features that "walk the walk" of being a more rugged choice than the Pilot. I suspect, however, that Honda will correct that weakness soon, possibly with a package of features that might be labeled the "Passport Sport" in the next model year.
In this review, the phrase "I like" was used more than 12 times. The phrase "I do not like...." was used only ONE time. What you do NOT like is equally important - it also gives you more credibility.
The new Pilot's a great SUV, but I much prefer the blocky, square shouldered styling of the previous gen. But I'm curious; is there a Pilot model with "non-functional" fog lights? 😂 Zonk! Personally, I love adjustable arm rests. They're infinitely adjustable on the Range Rover and it's great when you change the angle of your seat back. Anyways, if I can offer a bit of constructive criticism: it's fine to offer your critique on the vehicle's design, but it's really not necessary to point out the color and material of every single piece of trim on the car... maybe for a magazine article, but the beauty of a video review is that we can already see those things. You can cut probably 10mins from your reviews, or maybe use that time to tell us more about the things we can't see or can't experience without actually being in the car ourselves.
haveaniceday i’ve actually thought of looking at an Acura MDX that might be a few years old. Thinking that it might have many of the same interior design and CarPlay etc. that the current pilot and passport do. What year would you recommend?
I’ll take the Passport if It has an EX trim around $35k. I don’t need leather seats from the EX-L, but I need a bigger infotainment system than the base Sport
Johnson L, unfortunately there isn't an EX trim. Only Sport has cloth. There is Sport, EX-L, Touring, and Elite. This is very inconvenient of Honda to not add an EX trim on the Passport.
The Pilot looks more like a minivan. I like the front of the Pilot better than the Passport’s but I like the size of the Passport over the Pilot. Nice job comparing them! 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
Both are very Good Interest for Honda. One Thing Get's Me the Passport Tow's More Than the Pilot That is Mind blowing . Shouldn't be the other way around Pilot is more for the bigger family it Should pull More. Can you install a after market Super Charger On This V-6 . Great Job Guy's 🙋 Tom 📹📹👊👊🏯💪💪
Hey Armando! I am so glad that you liked this review. There is no available supercharger kit for the V6 in these two vehicles. You would have to have somebody custom make you one.
I think it makes sense not to place a USB in the 3rd row, because kids break stuff if they want to plug a device into a USB let them use an extension cord so you can see what they are doing.
I’ve leased a 2019 Honda Passport for a 18 months now and it’s the worst riding car I’ve ever own. The ride is so stiff that it feels like riding in a truck. Pulse it has this cracking noise that comes from dash and through the radio that hasn’t been resolved in three tries at the dealer
They better never start putting those sorry cvt transmissions in it and I’m curious to see how the 2.0 turbo is going to hold up, don’t care for turbos myself, talked about the ones they putting in the accords
Another paid by dealer video This guy not really car tech pro He more like a dealer who can only read some info about car not even understanding what it’s all about. Too many mistakes and fails can be fixed before release of this video So which of this two is better and why? What’s his verdict? I would go for Pilot because it’s bigger, more seats, higher resale, pricier look, more popular Passport is some kind of temporary model I feel It’s much better to get Pilot with no chrome and remove seats for more room I would go for MDX if need smaller “Pilot”
sash TT I am very interested in an MDX as a replacement for my 2006 pilot if I can get one that’s a few years old with not too many miles. The ‘new’ price difference is enough to put me off.
I just bought a new 2019 and would like to add a trailer hitch do I need to add a transmission cooler or anything I'll be towing around 500 lbs not including the trailer
Hello. This was my first visit to your subscription channel. I currently have a 2006 Honda pilot all-wheel-drive with 171,000 miles. I’m hoping to keep it to either 200,000 or another year and a half. At that point, to be honest, I will turn 75 and I’m planning to get what I term as my “last new car”. I’ve loved my pilot. It’s been a terrific car. Was very interested in the difference between the 2019 passport and the pilot. I really do not need the third row. Also, in so far as garage space, that additional 6 inches can make a difference in parking it in the garage. And I like the idea that the Passport sits up a bit higher, with 8 inches of ground clearance. I like sitting up higher. It’s amazing how similar both still are to my 2006 pilot in the interior styling. (For this I need to pay $45,000? LOL). I’ve also considered what it would be like to perhaps look at an Acura MDX that might just be a few years old with not too many miles as long as it has Apple CarPlay. Any thoughts on that? It might have some nicer interior. Your thoughts? Perhaps a 2017 or 18 MDX ‘loaded’ which might perhaps come in at about the same price as the new Pilot or the passport. I Would be very interested to hear your or any other people’s comments.
Buy the current year model when the next year models start showing up at the dealerships. My friend bought a 2019 Pilot ex trim in December19. He got a good deal at 33K including taxes and registration. Dealerships were desperate to make space for 2020 Pilots
Passport definitely. The passport comes with a 6 cylinder engine. The other 2 you mentioned all come with 4 cylinder with turbo. I test drove about 12 different suvs.All the same size American and Foreign and the passport wins hands down on the smooth ride in those captain chairs and 20 inch wheels. It feels like your floating. Don’t feel no potholes it’s just a great built ride. One problem I had was Honda doesn’t like to negotiate like some of the others were willing to come down. I highly recommend the elite passport.
"...The Blazer is the family vehicle that actually appeals to the whole family, and for that reason it upsets the Honda on its home court." I think the Motor Trend staff was weeping when they wrote that!
Being raised with GM, I love the looks of the Blazer RS... but I've had it with GM unreliability and mucho mechanical problems. The Traverse has many of it's own, so I am expecting the Blazer to be plagued with similar problems.
@@jjacob25101 the old Traverse was ranked No. 1 in the segment over the Toyota Sequoia, in Consumer Reports rankings. The newly redesigned 2018 Traverse( and Enclave) has a transmission that is rougher shift during break-in that some do not like.
@@normt5463 totally overblown... Ive had mine since last august 7k on it and absolutely no issues all winter and am getting mid 30's in mpgs.. AWESOME suv.
@@thejerseydebil I wouldn't think Honda would have that sloppy of engine building that China would get all of their 1.5t engines recalled, Canada got an extended warranty, and just a handful of states were covered. www.consumerreports.org/car-repair-maintenance/honda-delays-cr-v-turbo-engine-fix-details-rollout-plans/
The Passport is really starting to grow on me. I think I’ll wait 2-3 years and see how much they go for in the used market. I’ll let the first owner take the steep depreciation hit !!! 😜
I can not understand this two cars are nearly the same so whats the point to make two with the same point, size, and view ??? lets leave the pilot it’s better looks solid and about passport, well I don’t know for what ? Cr-v - yes I can understand, Hr-v - yes its acceptable too but Passport - no point just expanses.
I'm a 22 y/o single male.
The passport is better suited for me 👍
I totally agree with you on that!
Karreil2525 same man
I want to know how the Passport has such terrible MPGs
@@Striker50_ terrible mpg, no Panoramic sunroof and rear taillights are hideous. Plus interior needs update
Scott Douglas
Sunroof is useless
I just bought a used 2019 Honda Passport today. Its my first Honda. I appreciate the detailed video!
Just makes me appreciate my CRV. Not a sexy vehicle but has everything I need. This is the 6th Honda for me. I always return to Honda.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this!
TrainerRIck CRV is more features packed compared to the Pilot.
My first car is still my current after 4 years 2002 honda crv and i love her just looking at the passport for my future suv
I wish they would make the CRV look more like the pilot...just smaller. CRV looks to Asian
Im trying to find the best SUV for my sister cause whatever she drives is likely what i’ll end up driving. I want her to get a Honda very badly. Good reliability. I aint drivin a used Chevy once in my life
Passport looks way better for some reason
I've had my passport 2020 touring for three months now and I will say I'm very very happy with it. Best car I've had ever !
how do the "premium" speakers sound on the touring?
Like the non upgraded speakers on a Mercedes Benz. Good but not remarkable
How is the MPG? I know it's a midsize SUV with a V6 so it won't be great. I would be happy to average about 20 mpg and high 20's on the highway.
Joe, I agree with your dislike of the front row armrests on the Pilot and Passport, reminding me of sitting in coach on an airliner. But I think you've ignored the rationale for the design. In most vehicles the front seat armrests double as the lid of a vehicle's center console. That means the console storage can be accessed by the front seat passenger only by disturbing/distracting the driver if the driver's elbow is resting on the armrest. Some vehicles employ a split opening on the console allowing the passenger to open one side but that's a compromise, at best. The Honda design enables a front seat passenger to open the console completely without affecting the driver. Personally, I'd prefer the armrests to be a bit wider but the design itself is reasonable and would avoid my wife repeatedly saying, "Honey, please move your arm so I can open the lid."
Thanks Stephen for sharing your great thoughts!
Accurate
Have both, wife has a Pilot 2021, I have a Passport 2020. The Passport is a little sportier, but they are basically identically mechanically. Only difference is Pilot has 3 seats if needed. Also my Passport has all gloss black grill and trim.
I like the arm rests. If you don't use it, just fold it up. When I drive long distances, I rest my arm there as I don't need two hands on the steering wheel all the time cruising down the highway. The center console arm rest style never works for me as my arm needs to be a foot longer to even rest it to rest my elbow there.
25:22 hahaha great video you got confused a lot Honda pilot and it’s the password must be hard doing a review of both cars but excellent video my man 🙏🏻👍🏻
I test drove the Passport today and I drove it with the armrest at the highest point . Weird but it was so comfy that way to me ! Might be because I'm small ? But it didn't bother me at all , I loved it !
Both Pilot and passport can tow up 5k depending on the setup . Awd 5000lbs front wheel 3500lbs for both vehicles
This is so very true.
Great thorough review of these 2 Honda vehicles. I like The Passport more, I think it looks a little more sporty.
Thanks Henry! I am with you on the Passport for sure!
I like the passport look more. It looks more sport type and aggressive. Also in my opinion if the took so ideas of the interior layout from the new accord like the display and steering wheel than it would look amazing.
Who else agrees?
I like the Pilots overall look better than the Passport for some reason 🤷🏻♂️
I am glad that I could share this one with you!
Ik the pilot is the best!
I think the pilots rear looks better because the light doesn’t get cut off like the passport
Lalalalalala Lalalalalala it doesn’t have its tail cut off either haha
storm trooper line was spot on.
Thanks for catching that! Great minds think a like!
Love the Pilot since the ‘19 refresh. Ended up buying an Elite. You mentioned zonking the steering wheel buttons but recently we had a Accord Loaner for a week and my god I was so happy to get my pilot back. Neither my wife or I cared for the goofy steering wheel buttons on the Accord. Just felt the layout on the Pilot was more intuitive and more comfortable to press while driving. Overall good review tho! 👍🏽
Thanks for sharing your input and perspective! I appreciate you watching!
Passport for me love the styling and if I want 7 seaters I’ll buy the odyssey 😬
Romband1919 Odyssey is an 8 passenger, only the bottom trim is 7.
ooo intristing
Thanks for the review. The passport is on my radar.
You are so very welcome Pierre!
Every time I pull up behind a new Pilot in my new CRV I think to myself I have a way nicer ass. Did Honda just find out the patent on the '84 Dodge Caravan expired?
True but they’ll have more reliable engines. Has yours been checked for the fuel dilution problems?
2017 Honda Crv Touring. Not a single problem
The CRV is more soccer mom than any other Honda SUV IMO.
I'm puzzled as to why Florida car dealers order cars with black interior. I can see it works up north but it doesn't here. Why not lighter colors and not leather (which gets hotter than hell). Actually see lot cars that are black inside and out. Crazy!!!
That is a really good point Robert!
Lighter leather is beautiful but shows so much dirt from your jeans. It shows stains
I must be missing something here because I can't understand how these 2 vehicles do not compete against each other. I just don't see enough differences to justify the R&D expenditure. I understand they share a lot of hardware but I still don't get it. I'm positive Honda knows more than I do lol.
Great comparison. I'd choose the Passport. Less chrome is more my style.
Welcome back Tom
You are so very Right Rob! I feel like the Passport should be a little smaller!
@@RaitisRides
Maybe just make the 'Passport' an option package available for the Pilot. Call it a PilotSport as a little homage to the Passport name/lineage.
Stay cool, brutha
I believe the Passport is slightly shorter in length, and a little more off road worthy than the Pilot. And they wanted to fill the niche between the Pilot and the CR-V. That's why they brought back the old nameplate. They had a reason for it, just like the Honda Civic Sport Sedan and Coupe with the non turbo 2.0L engine. It was specifically equipped that way to reach a more mainstream target audience of everyday consumers like me that is older, and was the sportiness in handling and appearance and well equipped at an affordable price, but a more reliable and problem free drivetrain, for possible use by many members of the family, even younger ones. At first I was not thrilled when they first came out with the info, but later realized it was perfect for what I wanted. I still might get one if I don't opt for the HR-V Sport with it's more versatile cargo utility.
Rob Eye Comparing the new pilot to my 2006 vehicle I have noticed that over the years the pilot was getting a bit longer and I had also read that they had dropped the entry about an inch. I like sitting up high in the vehicle. So I took notice of that. Also I don’t need the additional length in my garage for parking it which is now 6 inches longer than the current passport. I still can’t make up my mind. We also have a 2006 CRV and one of my problems is that the seat is not as comfortable, or as flat, as is my 2006 pilot. So I’m wondering, as apparently the seats are very close to being identical, what kind of seed it will have? I won’t know until I actually sit in them and try it out. I am a plus size woman and I have found it to be uncomfortable when the edges of the seat tried to cocoon you but in actuality they are pushing up against your hips and that becomes quite uncomfortable after a while.
I would buy the Passport if I could pick one. It’s a reliable suv with good power. My wife used to have a 2016 Pilot. I have a Honda CR-V and need a new suv in a year or two. I’ll consider this or a Kia Telluride but trust Honda more. I just don’t like the push transmission but hey at least it doesn’t have a turbo engine. I want that v-tech power v6 not a weak 4 banger. Guess I’ll be paying more for gas though lol.
Thanks for sharing your input and perspective! I appreciate you watching!
I agree, I won't consider the CR-V anymore because of the really small turbo 4. I'm leaning toward the Passport as well.
The Passport is really starting to grow on me. I think I’ll wait 2-3 years and see how much they go for in the used market. I’ll let the first owner take the steep depreciation hit.
I was really hoping to do the same but that doesn't seem likely with how crazy the used car market is. Who would have guessed that used cars would be about the same as new. Plus most new cars are selling for over MSRP. Crazy times.
@@KPHVAC I know right? the original comment did not age well. They currently go for above msrp
@@CONMAN-gx1qr Ya, I still don't get it. I understand that new cars are in short supply, but these prices are crazy. I'm still holding out with my 2010 Honda Accord. I'm dying to get into an AWD Crossover but I'm not paying over MSRP. I'm also not about to pay dang near new car prices for a 2 or 3 years old car. Another year or two and car prices will come back down.
@@KPHVAC Try looking at websites like carvana and driveway. There are actually some good deals. I'm getting a 2019 AWD Honda Passport Toring with 20,000 miles for $32,000
@@CONMAN-gx1qr That does sound like a good deal as long as it's a clear title.
Passport ftw just based on looks
AGREED!
The Pilot looks so good! 😍
Thank You for your great reviews Joe.
Been your loyal subscriber for some time now! 😛
Fantastic vid bro! 37 min seemed long but u do not needlessly repeat yourself (my UA-cam pet peeve), ur pace is on point, u dive deep enough into details to keep it interesting!..
I’m a car guy & a 5x Honda guy, deciding between a 2019 Pilot vs Passport & this vid helped me heaps, like a friend was talking me thru these trucks, thx!! I’m def going Passport- found a Silver/black wheels 2019 Sport w/23k miles, $6k below kbb at a major dealership!! 🤙😎
There is a mistake on this review, the pilot and passport fwd 3500lbs towing capacity, and awd is 5000lbs.
Rati the pilot can tow up to 5000 pounds with all wheel drive and the passpirt with fwd will also tow 3500lbs TOO
Evray Williams interesting really!
Good review but NO comments on any of the camera parking features when reversing or forward parking. I assume there is STILL no 360° park assisting.
You are correct on that.
I’m getting a Passport this month, but I’m not thrilled with the color choices. Very basic color choices. I wish it came in the Basque Red like the CRV instead of that ugly brownish looking red. So here I am now trying to figure out if I want a silver , black or white. I already own a dark grey silver Honda CRV.
That is so great to hear Debbie!
Very true. Honda has always had extremely dull color choices. So I have seen the black paint job and it is beautiful.
Got my passport in the dark grey this week. Love it. The only thing I would change is more comfortable arm rests and the fact that you have to turn off the fuel saving engine stop/start every time you get in your car if you don’t want it to go in power save mode every time you’re at a red light. To me this should always be off unless you want to turn it on, not the other way around. Otherwise perfect SUV for me
25:23 is it the passport or the pilot? you keep switching back and forth what you call it
I test drove the Passport and I can tell you that it has the most out of touch light steering I’ve ever experienced in a car. I kid you not, I’ve played video games where cars had better steering. I also happened to not like the cut off front and back from the side view. Car is spacious and the sound system is great, but I couldn’t get over the steering issue.
HugFest probably drove in eco mode?
Heng S no. Tried sport mode too. Changed the shifting but not the steering, really. Great engine in the car.
Please do Honda Passport vs Acura RDX!
The Passport needs a panoramic roof and less black plastic on the front. Better gas mileage too. But the Passport is better and cheaper.
I hate panoramic sunroofs. I have one in my Hyundai and don't understand why people are into them. I prefer a moonroof like the one in the PP.
@@terence4427 The Passport wasn’t that much cheaper than the pilot at my dealer. If your going for elite brands the prices between the 2 are not that far off.
I love the passport 😍❤️
I am so glad that I could share it with you!
@@RaitisRides oh I am getting the elite for sure. 2020
I also drove both, steering feed back better on passport and suspension tighter. Don't know whuy you did not mention that.
Thanks for that info.
I'm not a fan of chrome and bling. I prefer more no nonsense, functional performance look, like my Buick GN and Impala SS blacked out/monochromatic look. Honda has been using the smoke chrome trim on the Accord and HR-V Sport and rear trim. They should use that on the the chrome emblems and Honda logo, too.
The Pilot refresh is nice, with the nice wheels. The Passport Elite is more my speed, and style, slightly smaller with more off road capabity, and the storage area in the hatch like the Ridgeline pickup. I like the styling of most of the Sport performance Honda trim wheels, but the wheels on this Passport could be nicer. The gunmetal grey is fine with me. Sometimes the black wheels are too dark for my tastes, depending on overall colors and styling. For the gloss back trim areas, like the external roof pillars, mirrors, and flat grille/front fascia and interior could be covered with the clear protection film, if contours are not a problem to affix. Did you say it had a CD player on the Passport? Two paws up from the Ninjacat if so. If this is not the top of the line Elite, than I think the Elite has nicer wheels. The Passport Elite would probably be my main consideration for a larger offroad SUV, unless I get the Ford Explorer ST.
Very good points sir!
Thank You for your great reviews Joe.
Been your loyal subscriber for some time now!
I bought myself a Passport Elite AWD with Adventure Package in Crystal Black Pearl. Really nice vehicle! Sporty, quiet, comfortable, capable and just what I need. Love the way it drives and rides and a vast improvement over my very dull but very practical, IMHO, 2015 Honda Pilot. The wife is not a fan of the Pilot but really loves the “attitude” the Passport exudes. Tough and menacing and yes, sporty. Inspires confidence.
Thanks for sharing your ownership experience!
@Robbin Saunders. I'm thinking about buying a PP. Do you still enjoy your PP? I've heard about problems with the infotainment system? Have you experienced any problems?
There’s so many more safety features not mentioned in this review. Too much camera time spent on identical design features when a brief mention would be enough.
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Great consumer advice Joe 👍
Again the pilot can tow 5,000 lbs too with AWD. Kinda strange how you said the Passport can tow 5,000 lbs yet the model you were showing on this video was only 2WD.
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Male in the late 20s, not married. Pilot is too big for me and I see too many moms driving crv. I really like the passport
Just got a Passport! Same feeling, i think the pilot is ugly with the chrome grill and rear end, passport is more agressive, who needs a third row? Get a mini van! It will be folded most of the time!
Passport needs Panoramic Roof
Amazing review Joe ...very nice way was you jumped from one SUV to another. 👍😎👌 Remember when I told you 100k subscribers coming at a theater near you ...we are almost there my friend !! 👍🤣🤣
a) I wasn't aware of a Passport and don't recall ever seeing one BUT I just traded my 2011 Pilot which I loved but it had 60,000 + miles and was "time" to trade. I love the new one also.
You should have tried selling it on the street instead. The dealer definitely paid you penuts for it for what you can actually sell it for.
I think you should sign off by saying “see you on the rait side” ... this could be your slogan too!
By rait side I mean, driving on the right side of the road, staying on the right side of humanity, and choosing the right way to life, give it a thought, make merch too!
I like where you are going with that! Thanks for the great feedback!
Raiti's Rides I’m glad that we have people like you making quality content. Always here to support you!
You are awesome!
i would like to know where can find the usb port 1.0A for playing audio files on a usb flash drive on the 2019 Honda Pilot EXL?
The passport is back, and looks better than ever!
I am so glad that you liked this one!
Although those unpainted black plastic on the bumper and some other parts of the car looks nice, I would rather have them color match as those blacks are going to eventually fade and look uneven grayish.
So is the main difference between them just the length? They seem to be very close in most areas.
Great, comprehensive review. Thanks.
You are so very welcome Terry! Thanks for watching!
Since both car are sold for the same price, actually Passport could even be more expensive, I would just go for the Pilot.
Thanks for sharing you thoughts on this one.
At first (or even at third or fourth) glance, it appears that the Passport is a Pilot with 6.5" chopped off the rear end and some trim pieces that suggest a (very) slightly more "rugged" image. But that misses an important, if subtle, distinction. At 190" long, the Passport fits in the "tweener" sub-category of midsize crossovers competing against rivals such as the Ford Edge, the Hyundai Santa Fe, the Kia Sorento, Jeep Grand Cherokee, Chevy Blazer and the Subaru Outback, among others.
The Pilot (196.5"), on the other hand, is virtually identical in length to the Subaru Ascent and the KIA Telluride, putting it right in the middle of larger midsize SUV's. That 6.5" shorter length in the Passport may not seem like a lot but if you fit a bike rack to the rear end, it can add 18"-24" additional length and make the difference between fitting into a garage with the door closed and leaving the garage door open. (I know.) With the exception of the Sorento all of the vehicles in the "tweener" class offer only two row seating and all but the Outback and Santa Fe offer standard or optional naturally aspirated V6 engines. The Passport fits neatly into the "tweener" category.
And in the tweener group, the Passport is an appealing entry offering both strong performance and great cargo and passenger space. It isn't "class leading" in several respects. Some configurations of the Grand Cherokee are better choices for true "off roading," for example. The 2020 Outback, too, may outpoint the Pilot as an "off-roader." The Ford Edge ST is a bit quicker and the KIA Sorento's third row of seats is surprisingly useful on an occasional basis. But overall, the Passport is a strong contender especially with Honda's version of SH-AWD.
On the other hand the Pilot, while a very good vehicle, faces some very tough competition, especially from the KIA Telluride. Same length (The KIA is 0.4" longer) but with considerably more passenger and cargo room in the KIA. The Pilot is a strong performer but its 0-60 time is mid-pack in in the larger midsize category. Lots of family friendly and clever storage features but the Pilot is not the new kid on the block and the Telluride has some significant advantages, especially in upper trim configurations. The Pilot's main advantage versus the Telluride is that you can actually purchase a Pilot without waiting in line. Honda needs to refresh the Pilot in the next model year to compete more effectively.
All in all, for those who neither need nor want third row seating in a tidier size than larger midsize SUV's, the Passport is a strong all round choice. Its major shortcomings center on the absence of features that "walk the walk" of being a more rugged choice than the Pilot. I suspect, however, that Honda will correct that weakness soon, possibly with a package of features that might be labeled the "Passport Sport" in the next model year.
You make some of the best points!
In this review, the phrase "I like" was used more than 12 times. The phrase "I do not like...." was used only ONE time. What you do NOT like is equally important - it also gives you more credibility.
So making up things you don't like gives you more "credibility"? What if that is all they did not like? Do you feel lying brings credibility?
Zonks?
Thos arm rests are a giat ZONK! Just make a normal console like the MDX. Also the incandescent bulbs in the tail lights bother me a lot.
The new Pilot's a great SUV, but I much prefer the blocky, square shouldered styling of the previous gen. But I'm curious; is there a Pilot model with "non-functional" fog lights? 😂 Zonk! Personally, I love adjustable arm rests. They're infinitely adjustable on the Range Rover and it's great when you change the angle of your seat back.
Anyways, if I can offer a bit of constructive criticism: it's fine to offer your critique on the vehicle's design, but it's really not necessary to point out the color and material of every single piece of trim on the car... maybe for a magazine article, but the beauty of a video review is that we can already see those things. You can cut probably 10mins from your reviews, or maybe use that time to tell us more about the things we can't see or can't experience without actually being in the car ourselves.
Could you know when will the pilot come out with a brand new design? Thanks
👍🏻 Great video Joe!
Thanks for letting me share it with you!
I like the last gen PILOT and the last MDX. Keep up the good work team Raiti.
haveaniceday i’ve actually thought of looking at an Acura MDX that might be a few years old. Thinking that it might have many of the same interior design and CarPlay etc. that the current pilot and passport do. What year would you recommend?
@Raiti's Rides. Did you find the position of the foot brake annoying in the Passport?
I’ll take the Passport if It has an EX trim around $35k. I don’t need leather seats from the EX-L, but I need a bigger infotainment system than the base Sport
Johnson L, unfortunately there isn't an EX trim. Only Sport has cloth. There is Sport, EX-L, Touring, and Elite. This is very inconvenient of Honda to not add an EX trim on the Passport.
The Pilot looks more like a minivan. I like the front of the Pilot better than the Passport’s but I like the size of the Passport over the Pilot. Nice job comparing them! 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
Exactly!
I just understand how the Passpost can tow more the Pilot, especially since they both have the same drive train.
We don't have these models in Africa, SA to be specific, why?
Keep up the good work 👍
Both are very Good Interest for Honda. One Thing Get's Me the Passport Tow's More Than the Pilot That is Mind blowing . Shouldn't be the other way around Pilot is more for the bigger family it Should pull More. Can you install a after market Super Charger On This V-6 . Great Job Guy's 🙋 Tom 📹📹👊👊🏯💪💪
Hey Armando! I am so glad that you liked this review. There is no available supercharger kit for the V6 in these two vehicles. You would have to have somebody custom make you one.
Armando...they both tow the same...3500 or 5000 with the transmission cooler.
I think it makes sense not to place a USB in the 3rd row, because kids break stuff if they want to plug a device into a USB let them use an extension cord so you can see what they are doing.
I am not digging with that reason for not having a USB back there.
So what about adults in the back? Leave the usb
I’ve leased a 2019 Honda Passport for a 18 months now and it’s the worst riding car I’ve ever own. The ride is so stiff that it feels like riding in a truck. Pulse it has this cracking noise that comes from dash and through the radio that hasn’t been resolved in three tries at the dealer
Both super utility!
You are so very right about that!
I like the lobster claws on the accord,am I alone?
I really have no problem with them but there is a large group of people that hates them.
I like em lol
Honda destroyed the true Pilot in 2016 when they replaced it with the pilot minivan...
That is true!
nice, can you now please tell us more about the Pilot driver hand rest?......lol...
LOL
They better never start putting those sorry cvt transmissions in it and I’m curious to see how the 2.0 turbo is going to hold up, don’t care for turbos myself, talked about the ones they putting in the accords
I totally agree with you Mark!
The 2.0 T don’t come with a cvt only the 1.5T or hybrids
Another paid by dealer video
This guy not really car tech pro
He more like a dealer who can only read some info about car not even understanding what it’s all about. Too many mistakes and fails can be fixed before release of this video
So which of this two is better and why? What’s his verdict?
I would go for Pilot because it’s bigger, more seats, higher resale, pricier look, more popular
Passport is some kind of temporary model I feel
It’s much better to get Pilot with no chrome and remove seats for more room
I would go for MDX if need smaller “Pilot”
Huh?
sash TT I am very interested in an MDX as a replacement for my 2006 pilot if I can get one that’s a few years old with not too many miles. The ‘new’ price difference is enough to put me off.
Does the Passport have a 3rd row seating?
I just bought a new 2019 and would like to add a trailer hitch do I need to add a transmission cooler or anything I'll be towing around 500 lbs not including the trailer
I would for extra insurance,.
@@RaitisRides ok thanks
500 pounds is nothing. You will be fine with standard equipment.Hopefully the trailer does not weigh over 2,000 pounds.
Really wasting time detailing the cosmetic features than explaining the features.
One is 3rd row one is 2nd row Seatings, that's diffrence, 🤓 Honda's funniest thing
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Where are your ads dude
I feel like I’m stealing
Put some midroll ads dude
Did I see a Highlander back of Pilot and Passport
I dont like the passport rear. Reminds me of ford lol. I think I'll just take the pilot black edition in this case 😁
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It would be nice to see one day that Toyota has something like 2 rows Highlander and it is not RAV4.
Prado
The rear on the passport reminds me of a Ford Edge! 😮
Love the look of the pilot but prefer the passport if I am to buy Honda at all.
Pilot does it for me beautiful
Best pilot 2020
Thanks for sharing that!
I got it.. n it beat any trucks 🤣
Hello. This was my first visit to your subscription channel. I currently have a 2006 Honda pilot all-wheel-drive with 171,000 miles. I’m hoping to keep it to either 200,000 or another year and a half. At that point, to be honest, I will turn 75 and I’m planning to get what I term as my “last new car”.
I’ve loved my pilot. It’s been a terrific car. Was very interested in the difference between the 2019 passport and the pilot. I really do not need the third row. Also, in so far as garage space, that additional 6 inches can make a difference in parking it in the garage. And I like the idea that the Passport sits up a bit higher, with 8 inches of ground clearance. I like sitting up higher.
It’s amazing how similar both still are to my 2006 pilot in the interior styling. (For this I need to pay $45,000? LOL).
I’ve also considered what it would be like to perhaps look at an Acura MDX that might just be a few years old with not too many miles as long as it has Apple CarPlay. Any thoughts on that? It might have some nicer interior. Your thoughts? Perhaps a 2017 or 18 MDX ‘loaded’ which might perhaps come in at about the same price as the new Pilot or the passport. I Would be very interested to hear your or any other people’s comments.
Thank you for sharing your input and perspective! I really appreciate you watching!
My pilot was $41700 sticker price minus $4000 discount and 1% interest rate for 5 years
Pilot ex-l nav/ RES 6spd
You just need to shop around
Rey Perez that sounds like a really good deal!
Buy the current year model when the next year models start showing up at the dealerships. My friend bought a 2019 Pilot ex trim in December19. He got a good deal at 33K including taxes and registration. Dealerships were desperate to make space for 2020 Pilots
CR-V 10 to 1 it uses less gas, 35mph CR-V 22mph on the other
I'd buy the Honda Passport. I don't need a 3rd row.
Tiguan
Passport
Cx-9
which one has the smoothest relaxed drive?
Passport definitely. The passport comes with a 6 cylinder engine. The other 2 you mentioned all come with 4 cylinder with turbo. I test drove about 12 different suvs.All the same size American and Foreign and the passport wins hands down on the smooth ride in those captain chairs and 20 inch wheels. It feels like your floating. Don’t feel no potholes it’s just a great built ride. One problem I had was Honda doesn’t like to negotiate like some of the others were willing to come down. I highly recommend the elite passport.
Passport vs Rav4 adventure off road!
That would be a good comparison.
It wouldn’t be a fair comparison. Compact 4cyl vs a midsized v6.
Everybody knows RAV4 competes with CRV; not Passport with a big old V6! As though you are saying "Let's compare a CRV to the Highlander".
"...The Blazer is the family vehicle that actually appeals to the whole family, and for that reason it upsets the Honda on its home court."
I think the Motor Trend staff was weeping when they wrote that!
Being raised with GM, I love the looks of the Blazer RS... but I've had it with GM unreliability and mucho mechanical problems. The Traverse has many of it's own, so I am expecting the Blazer to be plagued with similar problems.
@@jjacob25101 the old Traverse was ranked No. 1 in the segment over the Toyota Sequoia, in Consumer Reports rankings.
The newly redesigned 2018 Traverse( and Enclave) has a transmission that is rougher shift during break-in that some do not like.
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Norm T Cut the bullshit norm. The Passport still beat the Blazer in that same comparison and you know It
Of all the Honda suv's I would chose the CRV.
Just avoid the Honda 1.5t mixing fuel with oil and not much help from Honda for the owners.
@@normt5463 totally overblown... Ive had mine since last august 7k on it and absolutely no issues all winter and am getting mid 30's in mpgs.. AWESOME suv.
@@thejerseydebil I wouldn't think Honda would have that sloppy of engine building that China would get all of their 1.5t engines recalled, Canada got an extended warranty, and just a handful of states were covered.
www.consumerreports.org/car-repair-maintenance/honda-delays-cr-v-turbo-engine-fix-details-rollout-plans/
If it aint broke dont fix it
AGREED!
The Passport is really starting to grow on me. I think I’ll wait 2-3 years and see how much they go for in the used market. I’ll let the first owner take the steep depreciation hit !!! 😜
That tire shine .....oh my
It's really on there!
I can not understand this two cars are nearly the same so whats the point to make two with the same point, size, and view ??? lets leave the pilot it’s better looks solid and about passport, well I don’t know for what ? Cr-v - yes I can understand, Hr-v - yes its acceptable too but Passport - no point just expanses.
Should compare different brands
I would love to if I had access to them. I am trying to get those kinds of reviews together. Stay tuned!