Jim Lee - How to Draw Shadows on Faces

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  • @Elnis888
    @Elnis888 6 років тому +2364

    Wait ... so one of the most popular comic book artists ever is making free videos giving advice for upstart/beginner illustrators?
    Man, this is a perfect example of the benefits of the internet!

    • @Blackline60
      @Blackline60 5 років тому +59

      Internet = Knowledge

    • @saveusmilkboy
      @saveusmilkboy 5 років тому +40

      Sharing ideas makes us all better.

    • @KyleExplosion
      @KyleExplosion 5 років тому +7

      It's from his Twitch stream.

    • @binkinger
      @binkinger 5 років тому +40

      Also a perfect example of Jim Lee being a genuinely good guy.

    • @tsdobbi
      @tsdobbi 5 років тому +23

      I would have killed to have stuff like this when I was in highschool and was basically not learning things I needed to because my highschool art teacher was an abstract painter and shit at drawing, it really killed my progress over the course of highschool and turned me off to going to art school, and I got a computer science degree instead. It's nuts how much I improved even in my 30's, getting back into drawing simply due to youtube videos. Seriously, my HS art teacher was like anti illustration. We sculpted, painted all sorts of shit but no sketching/illustration.

  • @MinistryOfGamersMOG
    @MinistryOfGamersMOG 5 років тому +412

    I kinda love how your marker just hits the paper and suddenly batman appears.... haha Jim you make it all look sooooooooo easy.

    • @reinaldox909
      @reinaldox909 9 місяців тому

      😂😂

    • @zzodysseuszz
      @zzodysseuszz 5 місяців тому

      I mean it kinda is. He draws with a very formulaic art style bc he’s a comic book artist who needs to match deadlines. All you need to do is find your formula

  • @harrowsparrow3137
    @harrowsparrow3137 6 років тому +1407

    jim lee: “this is probably the worst skull ever”
    me: draws a skull
    also me: well jim, ur wrong about that

    • @thatunicornhastheaudacity
      @thatunicornhastheaudacity 5 років тому +6

      Practice. I hope you have been since this comment. In eleven months you ability improves significantly. Especially if you practice everyday.

    • @Im_Banana_
      @Im_Banana_ 5 років тому +4

      @@thatunicornhastheaudacity what about you did you improve in this past 2 months

    • @maxdog7616
      @maxdog7616 5 років тому

      @Gabriel Gradney it will take about a year

    • @maxdog7616
      @maxdog7616 5 років тому +1

      @Gabriel Gradney and in that intense practice, you'll be like Jim Lee.

    • @marrcxrp6866
      @marrcxrp6866 4 роки тому

      11 months have passed. I wonder if he's improved?

  • @cvoisineaddis
    @cvoisineaddis 7 років тому +1845

    "Let's just say for the purposes of argument, there's no black hole inside the persons head."

    • @Tonicwine999
      @Tonicwine999 6 років тому +15

      Caleb Voisine-Addis the light could always bend if they were approaching the speed of light.

    • @MrLilloegreg
      @MrLilloegreg 6 років тому +50

      "Let's just also say for the purposes of argument; that they are not aproaching the speed of light"

    • @fakeplastic1826
      @fakeplastic1826 6 років тому +23

      Obviously not drawing my ex girlfriend.

    • @hiexpressdoral7714
      @hiexpressdoral7714 6 років тому +35

      "Let's just say for the purposes of argument, we are not drawing your ex Girlfriend"

    • @yurialves9582
      @yurialves9582 6 років тому +15

      "Let's just say for the purposes of argument, we're not drawing at all."

  • @kevindavis3234
    @kevindavis3234 5 років тому +83

    Who gave this a thumbs down?!? One of the best figure artists ever is giving away a free lesson here! What's not to love about this?

    • @divyanshusingh4175
      @divyanshusingh4175 3 роки тому

      did anyone gave thumb down??

    • @operatedowl4158
      @operatedowl4158 2 роки тому +6

      @@divyanshusingh4175 Kevin is from the past when the dislike button still existed.

    • @divyanshusingh4175
      @divyanshusingh4175 2 роки тому

      @@operatedowl4158 lol yes i was trying to mock youtube about it 😂

  • @linah1998
    @linah1998 7 років тому +530

    there just are these artists where every sketchy line they draw just looks so perfect and so in place !! I hope I'll learn that natural way of drawing soon

    • @jondrake2251
      @jondrake2251 7 років тому +7

      Lina me too bc I looove to draw all day long

    • @tuna5936
      @tuna5936 7 років тому +16

      nope , not gonna be soon , you gotta master methodical and slow way before you can speed it up , there will be less error and look better when you speed up .

    • @Chessbox09
      @Chessbox09 7 років тому +18

      Andrew Loomis the great illustrator (you should check out his books), has talked about this. Its called rhythm lines. You can't specifically 'teach' it, it develops with practice. He mentions moving your pencil across the paper without moving your wrist, to develop that sense of rhythm.

    • @marcialwar
      @marcialwar 6 років тому +3

      There's a book called exactly that "The Natural Way to Draw", check it out!

    • @crustyou
      @crustyou 6 років тому +5

      Just think and familiarize things like simple objects. With regards to human body, just familiarize it and develop geometry in your mind as your guide. Once you have it, it's easy to play those line and shapes and put some detail. I am no expert, just an experience. :)

  • @Britton_Thompson
    @Britton_Thompson 5 років тому +16

    A trick I did early on to help me out was to literally draw a faint, miniature little light bulb wherever I wanted to depict my light source coming from. It's great for consistency and you don't have to imagine what the cast shadows might be as much.
    At the end, of course, you can go back and erase it. Again, it's a great little tip for beginners to help maintain consistency with their light sources.

  • @creatixstudios8889
    @creatixstudios8889 6 років тому +38

    I remember copying all his work when I was young. He taught me tons.

    • @nonesuchone
      @nonesuchone 4 роки тому +2

      Same. My “classic” Superman will always be a Jim Lee knockoff.

  • @SDW90808
    @SDW90808 4 роки тому +5

    Every time I watch this guy, I feel like I’m being given the keys to the kingdom. Jim Lee = inspiration

  • @slump7770
    @slump7770 6 років тому +1

    Jim Lee's voice is so fucking calming that I've fallen asleep a few times to these drawing tutorials

  • @ilikemusic9599
    @ilikemusic9599 5 років тому +1

    You probably won't see this, but Jim, your batman is the definitive look in my mind of batman. Never stop doing what you love my man!!

  • @skeltebraaksma3892
    @skeltebraaksma3892 7 років тому +156

    Your voice is super relaxing man

    • @J1t03
      @J1t03 4 роки тому +1

      ASMR

  • @albertmendoza9881
    @albertmendoza9881 Рік тому +1

    One of the modern day masters at work! Music to my ears just listening to that marker caress the paper!

  • @linkinaball
    @linkinaball Рік тому +4

    I just found this. THis is a amazing lesson! It’s amazing to see that all these great artists share their knowledge

    • @VZAAGE
      @VZAAGE  Рік тому +1

      I'm glad you're enjoying the videos!

  • @buckybarz3779
    @buckybarz3779 5 років тому +2

    The fact that I’m learning to be a better artist. From the very man that started me on my journey as a child , is the best thing ever!

  • @fieriroad1597
    @fieriroad1597 6 років тому +6

    Jim lee is by far my favorite comic artist ever! Something about his art just seems so perfect.

  • @bluecafe509
    @bluecafe509 Рік тому +1

    UA-cam is absolutely spoiling people. I would have done anything for these lessons when I was a kid. - Appreciated Jim

  • @Bxtskul1l
    @Bxtskul1l 3 роки тому

    I wanted so bad to be Jim Lee back in the 90s. Good to see the King giving lessons.

  • @DocetOfficial
    @DocetOfficial 5 років тому +9

    Thank you for everything you do for this community ✊🏾✊🏾

  • @drawinglife7580
    @drawinglife7580 7 років тому +25

    Jim Lee i love your drawing

  • @platoschauvet
    @platoschauvet 5 років тому

    his sketches look better than your finished drawings because he knows his proportions anatomy and structure, and that's one of the most important aspects of a good drawing. No finished drawing will look good without decent structure, and being able to do that easily just comes from lots of practice and study. And great videos like this are very helpful in that regard!

  • @enochvaughn
    @enochvaughn 7 років тому +43

    Jim Lee has always been a fantastic teacher! Anyone here remember the Gelatometti blog??

  • @GhostTower
    @GhostTower 5 років тому +10

    This dudes style defined the 90's

  • @Spoinkyi
    @Spoinkyi 5 років тому

    Art is so simple yet complex, it all boils down to teaching and let me tell you Mr.Lee does it perfectly

  • @takeda7750
    @takeda7750 5 років тому +126

    You're really good at drawing! Maybe you should start doing comics or something!

    • @nickopotato8963
      @nickopotato8963 5 років тому +4

      hahhaha

    • @nickopotato8963
      @nickopotato8963 5 років тому

      ua-cam.com/video/B1a1jrd7aQA/v-deo.html

    • @KalilIllinois
      @KalilIllinois 5 років тому +20

      @@hiyuku25 was looking for the one who wouldn't get the joke and CONGRATULATIONS!! YOU'RE THE WINNER

    • @certifiedboylover2546
      @certifiedboylover2546 5 років тому +4

      @@hiyuku25 Thank you very much Captain obvious

    • @willadams8229
      @willadams8229 5 років тому +1

      lx. A big wooooosh

  • @ghostdog2041
    @ghostdog2041 5 років тому

    This is some great incidental asmr! Jim Lee draws my favorite version of Batman. I love the way his cowl fits. It’s like fabric that is tight on Batman’s head, and you can see the shape of his ears through it. Love love love it.

  • @SalTarvitz
    @SalTarvitz 7 років тому +1

    Such a great human being. Jim truly makes the world a more beautiful place for us to live in.

  • @Tehillim29
    @Tehillim29 6 років тому

    Damn, EVS on UA-cam, now Jim Lee on UA-cam, along with John Malin.
    I love how the comic book creators of whatever area you work in, are starting to use youtube as a medium to connect with customers & fans of your amazing creations.
    Thx Jim Lee for doing this.

  • @SinisterStatus
    @SinisterStatus 7 років тому +4

    Shadows on Faces by Jim Lee!! This is the most helpful video on shadows I've ever seen! Thanks Jim!!

  • @JoeMartian
    @JoeMartian 6 років тому +1

    Im a big Jim Lee fan ever since i started reading xmen comicbooks. Im so happy you're doing these videos here. So inspiring.

  • @CiskyFCC
    @CiskyFCC 5 років тому

    I was searching for a video about shadows for comic books drawings and I've got one of my 2 favourite comic book artists ever (the other is John Romita Sr.) not only at work but also giving me tips on how to draw. Wow. Just wow. Thanks for this video.

  • @MegaSuperCritic
    @MegaSuperCritic 6 років тому +3

    These videos of Jim have reinspired me to draw. I just copied 3 of his videos and am decent at drawing any angle now. Goddamn, thanks for the tips, Jim. I'd buy you a beer if you weren't so damn famous

  • @MrYaco123
    @MrYaco123 5 років тому +2

    That man is a master.
    I'am trying to become a comicbook artist, and seeing this gives me satisfaction.

  • @boukevanmierlo7923
    @boukevanmierlo7923 4 роки тому

    God of Drawing:JIM LEE Loved his work from the beginning in The uncanny X Men in the early '90's

  • @joshuasarmiento5610
    @joshuasarmiento5610 3 роки тому

    the best and quickest skull i've ever seen

  • @ogs1mpson609
    @ogs1mpson609 5 років тому +3

    This artist definitely has a bright future ahead of him. Maybe in comics.

    • @tibo6749
      @tibo6749 5 років тому

      He probably already has a successful career in comics

  • @muddyboots7753
    @muddyboots7753 7 років тому

    Im so happy I was alive during the 90's to see the rise of Jim Lee and the other Image founders

  • @jimbean4815
    @jimbean4815 5 років тому

    I love it, sharpie and white out. The tools don't matter. Its how you use them!

  • @thousandaireradio3199
    @thousandaireradio3199 4 роки тому

    I'm in shock that you have a channel and show people how to draw. You were one of my favorite artist in the 90's. I look forward to catching up and learning from you.👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @edwardjones8249
    @edwardjones8249 3 роки тому

    I read years ago in wizard magazine he was gonna go to school to be a doctor and decided to get into comics and taught himself how to draw. That boy good.

  • @RGMRT
    @RGMRT 3 роки тому

    This makes me wanted to learn even more. Thank you Mr. Jim Lee!!

  • @MakeGamesGreatAgain
    @MakeGamesGreatAgain 6 років тому +2

    The level of skill you can see in A SKETCH. He wasn't even trying and those sketches looked better than my fini pieces

  • @hausofone
    @hausofone 7 років тому +145

    I'm surprised he doesn't have more than a million subscribers

    • @kevinvu5432
      @kevinvu5432 7 років тому +2

      Neo Dore he's popping up in my feed and I'm happy. So he'll get there. He's close to a 100k.

    • @Storse
      @Storse 6 років тому +12

      Neo Dore Jim Lee doesn't run this channel. he streams on Twitch.

    • @jeanleon3537
      @jeanleon3537 6 років тому

      Storse exactly

  • @jumanjicostco3248
    @jumanjicostco3248 6 років тому

    I like how he gets ideas in the middle of the sketch where he just decides to go: "oh hey, this could be batman" (adds bat ears) and "this looks like daredevil, yeah it's daredevil" (adds horns)

  • @Dimanji
    @Dimanji 5 років тому

    Finally a video that makes sense and explains exactly what i want to learn

  • @hafizharbi5764
    @hafizharbi5764 6 років тому +1177

    I hate all these "boohoohoo his doodles look better than my serious drawing" comments. He has years upon years of experience. Stop discouraging yourselvles and go practice for fuh sake.

  • @dmlevitt
    @dmlevitt 5 років тому +5

    what a gift to see such a talent draw. thanks.

  • @omegaplumbing
    @omegaplumbing 2 місяці тому

    Im 54 just ordered pentel fude pens going to start where I left off 35 years ago....so at the beginning lol. this is really good stuff, of course he's amazing...

  • @Sky_TEC_Illustraition_Systems
    @Sky_TEC_Illustraition_Systems 4 роки тому +3

    Me: Read comic's as a kid. Always wanted to learn to draw.
    Today. Starts learning.
    Reads: A ton of art books to study.
    Work: takes a break every 20 min to maintain focus.
    Watches: the guy who wrote those comics that inspired me to do what Im doing today, twenty years ago after the fact. 🤔

  • @ScieJane1996
    @ScieJane1996 5 років тому

    The way on how he explain everything is so simple yet so satisfying and very understandable. I like it. I'll watch more vids of yours. 😀

  • @its_jeyem
    @its_jeyem 7 років тому +505

    i bet his room smells like sharpie

    • @jmac2050
      @jmac2050 6 років тому +25

      that sound bothers me

    • @chlopaczekhula3524
      @chlopaczekhula3524 5 років тому +22

      I can smell this video now.... why did you do this to me

    • @jedimasterobi-wankenobi6201
      @jedimasterobi-wankenobi6201 5 років тому +2

      Fucking creep

    • @CerealOwl
      @CerealOwl 5 років тому +5

      @@jedimasterobi-wankenobi6201 play me a song, you're the piano man.

    • @b00t6
      @b00t6 5 років тому +2

      🙂

  • @kushviper
    @kushviper 4 роки тому

    I could watch Jim doodle and draw all day long 🤯

  • @caioalexandre5422
    @caioalexandre5422 Рік тому

    Thanks Jim Lee for teach me the draw shadows !

  • @marcelopaixao5842
    @marcelopaixao5842 5 років тому

    The Ultimate Master!!! Too simple and Helpful! Thanks!!!

  • @michaelnicholas2558
    @michaelnicholas2558 7 років тому +105

    I honestly appreciate your level of mastery at sketching, but I have to say, 4:00 is the first time I've ever seen Batman rock a mustache and beard with a pair of shades.

  • @chefjonsf
    @chefjonsf 5 років тому

    So much admiration and respect, Jim. For pretty much all my life thank you!

  • @herbalsummer
    @herbalsummer 7 років тому +6

    'unless there is a black hole inside someones head..there isn't'..well, I'm sold, and subbed

  • @c.williamrussette2148
    @c.williamrussette2148 7 років тому +3

    These lessons have helped me a great deal. Thank you for taking the time.

  • @vigilantezack
    @vigilantezack 6 років тому

    What was that brown handle pen around 8:30. Don't like sharpie but that looked clean and smooth and not as rough sounding against the paper.

  • @candyxxv5834
    @candyxxv5834 5 років тому +1

    Bruh, watching u draw is so satisfying...

  • @boopy2t190
    @boopy2t190 7 років тому +1

    Very straightforward. Thank you so much. This is very helpful. I can make characters look more intimidating now.

  • @rm5127
    @rm5127 5 років тому +1

    Subbed, love how u just use paper and marker, I literally just saw a girl with a electric erasers blending tools and five different pencils for drawing an eye
    Lol but u are great

  • @aurelia160
    @aurelia160 3 роки тому

    This tutorial was exactly what I was looking for! Thank you so much!

  • @filmfrosk
    @filmfrosk 6 років тому +1

    DAMN this would have been helpful about 10 years ago, when I was really into comic book shadowing! Great video. Subalicious!

  • @slaineNZ
    @slaineNZ 5 років тому

    hey Jim. I am a huge fan of your work, have been since I read your work on Xmen. Thanks heaps for posting these how to vids

  • @davidk6269
    @davidk6269 3 роки тому

    Fantastic tutorial! I love your animation style.

  • @josephart2821
    @josephart2821 6 років тому

    Thanks for the lesson! Nice video Jim

    • @VZAAGE
      @VZAAGE  6 років тому +1

      I'm just a dude who edits these videos. You should join the Discord channel to interact with Jim Lee and fellow fans discord.gg/jimlee

    • @josephart2821
      @josephart2821 6 років тому

      Thanks dude!

    • @VZAAGE
      @VZAAGE  6 років тому

      No problem

  • @psychi1465
    @psychi1465 7 років тому +8

    Thank you so much for this vid! I'm making a little sci-fi dectecive kinda one shot and i need these tips to do dramatic shots and stuff lol

    • @VZAAGE
      @VZAAGE  7 років тому +2

      Very glad you found the video helpful. Keep at it.

  • @totallyinsaneart3345
    @totallyinsaneart3345 5 років тому

    What an amazing video to get to see for free.
    This was like fifteen minute of intense school.

  • @michael.m1894
    @michael.m1894 5 років тому +29

    Dumb question, but does this apply to other types of art styles as well? (other than comic art style)

    • @VZAAGE
      @VZAAGE  5 років тому +15

      I would say so.

    • @irtiza3870
      @irtiza3870 4 роки тому +1

      michael.m “dumb question”💀

    • @blankabb1289
      @blankabb1289 4 роки тому

      @@VZAAGE can you do the same thing for manga style please

    • @notaperson3786
      @notaperson3786 4 роки тому +1

      @@blankabb1289 yes. almost anything that applies to comics also applies to manga

    • @blankabb1289
      @blankabb1289 4 роки тому

      @@justinesalud2455 i thinks Manga style it's way too different it has their own shapes style etc and i wanted to see how well a comic master can fit in it

  • @lowtidelumber3107
    @lowtidelumber3107 3 місяці тому

    Insanely helpful. Thanks you Jim!

  • @Bibliothekaresse
    @Bibliothekaresse 5 років тому +4

    This is high quality ASMR content

    • @b00t6
      @b00t6 5 років тому

      If you cloth your eyes it's better cuz picture is offset

  • @eloiseaka3887
    @eloiseaka3887 5 років тому

    YOU ARE A GREAT ARTIST AND GREATER TEACHER! THANK YOU!

  • @designertjp-utube
    @designertjp-utube 5 років тому +2

    Hi! Excellent lighting tutorial! Who has time to read a Lighting Chiaroscuro Book these days? Was curious as how the heck did Artist Jim Lee stop his Permanent Black Sharpie Marker from "bleeding thru" onto his other superb artwork underneath? Is he using that fancy strong illustration paper made from ground stone?

    • @VZAAGE
      @VZAAGE  5 років тому +4

      Yes, he uses amzn.to/2Xbw8Tb

  • @drty09brd
    @drty09brd 3 роки тому

    If you are writing this is very valuable information if you plan the time and where the sun/ light source is coming from.

  • @jt1983
    @jt1983 6 років тому

    Dude when Jim moved his example drawings, I know I wasn't the only DC fan that looked at cyborg like, DUUUUDE! FRIGGEN' JIM LEE I SWEAR 😂😂😂😂HIS ART IS PROFECTION!

  • @mr.shaggyfilms971
    @mr.shaggyfilms971 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the awesome content!!! I wish I could have more.

  • @jorgitogimenez7775
    @jorgitogimenez7775 5 років тому +5

    I love this video. Straight to the point 😂😂

  • @ananyaarun6354
    @ananyaarun6354 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for the wonderful knowledge!

  • @eduardogarcescabezuelo8872
    @eduardogarcescabezuelo8872 6 років тому

    este si que es un maestro ! se nota nada más verle que sabe lo que hace :)
    this if he is a teacher, it is obvious that he knows what he is doing
    ( translated by the google translator )

  • @esangiri117
    @esangiri117 5 років тому +44

    When Jim draws DC and Marvel characters together
    Me: Wait that's illegal

  • @DEFxRECON
    @DEFxRECON 6 років тому +322

    I love how that "bad" skull looks better than any skull I've drawn

  • @valcanpatel7736
    @valcanpatel7736 7 років тому

    The sound of that sharpie soooo good

  • @davidl9191
    @davidl9191 4 роки тому

    This is genuinely helpful, thank you so much for your time!

  • @jeffdork_ALPHAZ
    @jeffdork_ALPHAZ 5 років тому

    Very helpful tips Sir! Thanks a lot! Long time Fan here! ☺

  • @giorgizibzibadze6456
    @giorgizibzibadze6456 7 років тому +112

    14:32 Look out jim theres a man behind you !

    • @anafternoonwalk
      @anafternoonwalk 6 років тому +7

      Idk why I laughed so much at that.

    • @-d7mez27
      @-d7mez27 6 років тому +2

      I see it too 😂😂

    • @babapod2591
      @babapod2591 5 років тому +10

      oh no ! jim has headphones on!! JIM LOOK OUT

    • @johncenagaming581
      @johncenagaming581 5 років тому +1

      IM SHIDDING MYSELF HOLY COW JIM LOOK OUT JESUS CHRIST 😳😳

    • @redsun9449
      @redsun9449 5 років тому +2

      Is that a cut out of Adam?

  • @camilamartinez3943
    @camilamartinez3943 6 років тому

    Amazing art you are a breathtaking artist your videos are better than my art class I totally get what you talking about and now I feel more confident about what I’m going to draw next hey also one question with like color light where exactly in the face does it reflect from for example your holding your phone up to your face in a dark room where and how can I draw light like that?

  • @gabrielclements1119
    @gabrielclements1119 6 років тому +40

    I can just smell the video from watching it

  • @danroberts8078
    @danroberts8078 5 років тому +3

    I know this is over a year old but how in the hell does this have ANY dislikes? Do people not realize how lucky we are to live in a time where this info is provided for free to everyone?

  • @chucknorris7900
    @chucknorris7900 5 років тому +6

    The whole damn video I didn't notice that in the background - then at 14:32 I nearly fell out of my seat

  • @DoubleFiber
    @DoubleFiber 7 років тому

    you are an awesome drawwing teacher i learned from you thanks jim

  • @laurafranke
    @laurafranke 6 років тому

    This is absolute gold.

  • @ASkittishRaven
    @ASkittishRaven 6 років тому +1

    Stumbled apon your channel and am finally getting tips for wanting to make comics. Thank you. I subscribed

  • @ebanfield
    @ebanfield 6 років тому

    Lee might consider using a black canvas, which is possible in Photoshop. I would like to see what he could do on a Wacom tablet.

  • @srkofficial
    @srkofficial 5 років тому

    Really amazing painting, keep it up

  • @tuhinkundu2758
    @tuhinkundu2758 6 років тому

    Jim Lee is just amazing 😍

  • @snoopu2601
    @snoopu2601 5 років тому

    I saved this video to watch later, I'll have to remember how the shading works, but I don't want to blackened all the face out I'll do it with pencil shading the direction of where the light is setting maybe a circle of where the sunlight maybe as example of where the shading should be.

  • @user-lx8po5lq9l
    @user-lx8po5lq9l 5 років тому +3

    anyone else got goosebumps watching this?

  • @Frant1c_
    @Frant1c_ 5 років тому

    I love this vid, it can be very useful in darker scenarios

  • @MarkLipka
    @MarkLipka 4 роки тому +2

    Exactly what is the brown pen you're using, Jim?