damn dude that was brutal. I really appreciate you posting as a pro. The normal human paddlers of the world need to see these things and calm down on just firing up stuff. Glad it worked out ok for ya. Good job on the crew they were ready.
More hindsight for ya, I threw that rope. Not the best throw but Ben got on it. The second he weighted the rope, the rock I was anchored on broke loose and into the river. I slid in with it and had to make the call of drop Ben or swim over this with him…. Also, although there’s a gnarly cave that could trap you on the left side, it’s also deeper. Right side there’s a rock in the landing that has flat pinned kayaks and would probably hold a body too. The boat exploded, but Ben was fine minus inhaling some water and I think paddled west prong after this… if I remember correctly. So while it tears me apart I dropped him in there, it was likely a whole lot better I pulled him towards the left slot than him floating into the right slot.
Damn, that looked brutal. Glad you are okay. I swam out of the hole at 0:18 earlier this year. Not fun at all. My boat was gone for 2 days. It got pinned underwater against a tree and more rain came later that day into the next day.
Yeah that was nasty as hell alright, so glad you're okay! Swimming over that pour-over into the rock at 1:03 must have been a massive impact... How long did it take for you to be able to walk again without limping after this swim? I've had way less violent and steep swims than this where I was still having trouble walking normally almost 2 weeks after the fact. Hope you didn't get injured too badly from that swim, as a paddler who is currently recovering from 2 spinal compression fractures after a botched line down a waterfall on Paint Creek in PA, I feel your pain! Thanks for sharing this video with us, always appreciate it when a paddler can put aside their own bruised ego from a swim to show us what went wrong, and what we can learn from it to help out any future paddlers who find themselves in a similar situation on this run. If you don't care about more people seeing this video, you should send it to Kayaksession as an entry into their "Carnage/Beaters for all" contest, you'd have a solid chance of being a contender for the prize! Edit: BTW, sick line at 00:10
@@Matkatamiba Yeah that's a good point. It looked really nasty, but probably wasn't nearly as bad as tumbling over those shelves afterwards, and bouncing off those shallow rocks. That pour-over I timestamped just looked really similar to one I swam over on the Upper Yough at high water (like 3.3 feet) where I crashed straight into rock and took a giant hit on my thighs, and practically had to crawl to my car at the takeout afterwards I was in so much pain... That was the time where I mentioned I was still limping 2 weeks later! I'm sure Ben here had to be hurting the morning after this swim!
Khanarly swim brother! Extra props for the good attitude. What camera setup did you use to film this? Footage looks fantastic and the angle looks great as well.
I ve been watching some whitewater kayaks videos and always the camera men survives!! plus is like always after they shout whooooooo , then they go to swim like 10 seconds after
It in incredible to me that people who carry throw ropes have no clue how to use ropes. Do boaters really think they are going to hold a rope in their HANDS and swing a body to shore from swift moving water? Crazy. You have to wrap the rope off on something, or at least be ready to body belay. The illusion of safety is a massive risk. Pick great partners when you decide to run class 5. All the "Good Crew" comments are frightening. No one really trains rescues here, that part is obvious. @:56, and @1:43, raise your hand if you think these were good rescue positions. The second guy standing on a wet, sloped, rock tryin hard to be the second swimmer. wtf.
Heyo while I do share some of your concerns, the first rope thrower actually had fine footing and the rock he was standing on just fell in the river. Second homie got me in safe. As far as I’m concerned they did all they could’ve with be knowledge they had
Man I agree in the perfect staged rescue scenario but in continuous class v creeking a rescue is more on the fly and those guys were just trying to do something as quick as possible. It ain’t rafting with a safety team at every eddy. Good job on the 2nd guy making out of his boat to throw another rope. Could have been worse.
Easy to sit there from the comfort of your couch and critique with no context and limited visibility of the rescuers. You're making very harsh statements with next to no knowledge of the reality. In a setting like that, things are dynamic and safety is difficult. Please don't be so quick to keyboard warrior when you don't have adequate information.
@@Dpackie :56 rope throw here 🙋♂️. Every single one of us trains rescues and has had formal training. I had to stand close to get that throw where I needed to faster and more consistent than a long throw. I moved and anchored from where I threw from. I didn’t drop the rope when it weighed, the whole rock I anchored behind broke loose and rolled into the river. It wasn’t until I was also in the river did I make the call to drop Ben so both of us didn’t make this swim. The left side of this channel faired much better than the boat that exploded while running the right line. Boats have also flat pinned for days on the right line. Everything to anchor to was either rotten or rhodo so getting low behind a rock was a better call. No one would’ve known that rock would break loose. The positions we had were the best nature provided. The boys knew where we were and what we had to work with before dropping in. I would trust every single one of these boys to hold a rope for me in this situation as do they with me. Stay safe ❤️
damn dude that was brutal. I really appreciate you posting as a pro. The normal human paddlers of the world need to see these things and calm down on just firing up stuff. Glad it worked out ok for ya. Good job on the crew they were ready.
That's one of those swims when you're in it, where you really start to wonder. Good crew makes a difference there and is why you were no worse.
More hindsight for ya, I threw that rope. Not the best throw but Ben got on it. The second he weighted the rope, the rock I was anchored on broke loose and into the river. I slid in with it and had to make the call of drop Ben or swim over this with him….
Also, although there’s a gnarly cave that could trap you on the left side, it’s also deeper. Right side there’s a rock in the landing that has flat pinned kayaks and would probably hold a body too. The boat exploded, but Ben was fine minus inhaling some water and I think paddled west prong after this… if I remember correctly.
So while it tears me apart I dropped him in there, it was likely a whole lot better I pulled him towards the left slot than him floating into the right slot.
Damn, that looked brutal. Glad you are okay. I swam out of the hole at 0:18 earlier this year. Not fun at all. My boat was gone for 2 days. It got pinned underwater against a tree and more rain came later that day into the next day.
Damn homie.. Glad you're okay. That was gnarly
When the title of a video is exactly what the video is.
Yeah that was nasty as hell alright, so glad you're okay! Swimming over that pour-over into the rock at 1:03 must have been a massive impact... How long did it take for you to be able to walk again without limping after this swim? I've had way less violent and steep swims than this where I was still having trouble walking normally almost 2 weeks after the fact. Hope you didn't get injured too badly from that swim, as a paddler who is currently recovering from 2 spinal compression fractures after a botched line down a waterfall on Paint Creek in PA, I feel your pain! Thanks for sharing this video with us, always appreciate it when a paddler can put aside their own bruised ego from a swim to show us what went wrong, and what we can learn from it to help out any future paddlers who find themselves in a similar situation on this run. If you don't care about more people seeing this video, you should send it to Kayaksession as an entry into their "Carnage/Beaters for all" contest, you'd have a solid chance of being a contender for the prize!
Edit: BTW, sick line at 00:10
That pourover at least looked deep. The one at 1:10 was right onto a rock. Ow!
@@Matkatamiba Yeah that's a good point. It looked really nasty, but probably wasn't nearly as bad as tumbling over those shelves afterwards, and bouncing off those shallow rocks. That pour-over I timestamped just looked really similar to one I swam over on the Upper Yough at high water (like 3.3 feet) where I crashed straight into rock and took a giant hit on my thighs, and practically had to crawl to my car at the takeout afterwards I was in so much pain... That was the time where I mentioned I was still limping 2 weeks later! I'm sure Ben here had to be hurting the morning after this swim!
always good to be with a sharp crew
That's super gnarly. Glad you're okay and thanks for posting it!
Khanarly swim brother! Extra props for the good attitude. What camera setup did you use to film this? Footage looks fantastic and the angle looks great as well.
when yak hard go wrong, glad u all good mon bless UP
scary shit great crew taugh
That was a rough one, glad you’re good!
Good job in getting the last bag. A more forgiving kayak would have made a big difference to your run and may have prevented a swim.
I ve been watching some whitewater kayaks videos and always the camera men survives!! plus is like always after they shout whooooooo , then they go to swim like 10 seconds after
scaryyy! woooooo to beatdown was legendary tho
Hope you're fine!
Well prepared crew with multiple safety positions.
Good hits with the bags! Stay safe bro
I can feel it
FYI they still make creek boats for a reason
Sorry man.
ur supposed to stay in the kayak
It in incredible to me that people who carry throw ropes have no clue how to use ropes. Do boaters really think they are going to hold a rope in their HANDS and swing a body to shore from swift moving water? Crazy. You have to wrap the rope off on something, or at least be ready to body belay. The illusion of safety is a massive risk. Pick great partners when you decide to run class 5. All the "Good Crew" comments are frightening. No one really trains rescues here, that part is obvious. @:56, and @1:43, raise your hand if you think these were good rescue positions. The second guy standing on a wet, sloped, rock tryin hard to be the second swimmer. wtf.
Heyo while I do share some of your concerns, the first rope thrower actually had fine footing and the rock he was standing on just fell in the river. Second homie got me in safe. As far as I’m concerned they did all they could’ve with be knowledge they had
Man I agree in the perfect staged rescue scenario but in continuous class v creeking a rescue is more on the fly and those guys were just trying to do something as quick as possible. It ain’t rafting with a safety team at every eddy. Good job on the 2nd guy making out of his boat to throw another rope. Could have been worse.
They don't know how to use a throw rope.
Easy to sit there from the comfort of your couch and critique with no context and limited visibility of the rescuers. You're making very harsh statements with next to no knowledge of the reality. In a setting like that, things are dynamic and safety is difficult. Please don't be so quick to keyboard warrior when you don't have adequate information.
@@Dpackie :56 rope throw here 🙋♂️.
Every single one of us trains rescues and has had formal training.
I had to stand close to get that throw where I needed to faster and more consistent than a long throw. I moved and anchored from where I threw from.
I didn’t drop the rope when it weighed, the whole rock I anchored behind broke loose and rolled into the river. It wasn’t until I was also in the river did I make the call to drop Ben so both of us didn’t make this swim.
The left side of this channel faired much better than the boat that exploded while running the right line. Boats have also flat pinned for days on the right line.
Everything to anchor to was either rotten or rhodo so getting low behind a rock was a better call. No one would’ve known that rock would break loose. The positions we had were the best nature provided. The boys knew where we were and what we had to work with before dropping in.
I would trust every single one of these boys to hold a rope for me in this situation as do they with me.
Stay safe ❤️