@williamfuentes2581 yall are dumb. He's talking about how the weapons worked when they first dropped back in season 2. They had to get several buffs just to be considered as viable weapons
I was really hoping for solos and duos cashout.. it’s one of the most requested things to add so I don’t know why it’s not a priority , more people would jump on knowing they can play solos or duos
I want embark to experiment with Light and try to make it a less sweaty class and more of a tactical, team-built choice where you won’t die as fast as a CoD ttk.
I want some more fully auto weapons for the game so bad, like we only have two per class and we haven’t gotten any new ones since the release of the game, why do people not want fully auto guns???
@@wifiwebtorso6405how are they boring, I'd say they the movement everyone does while using them to avoid being hit by enemies single shot makes fights considerably more interesting
@@collintaddiken1400 I mean I can’t say they are more objectively boring because something that’s fun or boring is bound to be subjective and it’s someone’s opinion, but I don’t think it’s as particularly as fun because in a game with extremely fast movement, and people flying everywhere and really fast pace it isn’t fun having such a slow fire rate that people can literally run through ur bullets without being hit. On top of that, the hip fire for a bunch of the semi auto options Like for example the pike, Lh1, have HORRENDOUS and I mean absolutely awful hip fire accuracy and I think something that is extremely inaccurate has gotta be extremely frustrating to use. The hip fire is so bad it’s almost unuseable during hip fire and your forced to constantly aim down sights with those weapons while the fully autos have more accurate hip fire (if you don’t think that’s true it’s objectively true, the hip fire on the M11, Xp, Akm, FCAR, Lewis, and m60 all have way tighter hip fire than the horrendous hip fire accuracy of the pike and Lh1 and if you include the target moving, and you moving in a game like this its soooooo awful trying to land hip fire shots with the semi autos, and your forced to really play with only aiming down sights where every other gun both hip fire and aiming down is viable. So yeah I don’t think semi auto weapons are as fun as fully autos where in a fast paced game it feels a lot smoother and satisfying to use, and I truly think they should add more fully autos and prioritize that over semi autos
Shak-50 is LITERALLY mw2019 Oden but you use the burst perk that shoot twice per trigger pull, in the trailer it even got the gold season pass oden blueprint iron sight
@Pizza_Dough1 yea but the dps values are very close anyway. AKM is just a better fcar. I am using it alot atm and it needs more damage per bullet considering the recoil is quite a but harder to control
Light has 2 SMG, 2 SG, 2 melee weapons, 2 pistols and 2 rifles, throwing knives and a bow, and many unusual gadgets. Don't you think this is a little unfair to other classes?
@MalenkoDRiker tell that to all the lights in the higher elo's of rank diamond/ruby...all 5 of them. I'm sorry but I base my experiences off of ranked and not quick play. Season 2 was the only decent season for Light. Some say S3 but that was TA which is not even finals too begin with. S4 or should I say season of the model you wouldn't see lights past low to mid plat. Now this season light doesn't even get a f-ing weapon. Bout done with this game.
I like how people seem to act as if lights complained the most when the fucking thing is just as good against lights as it was before. The only thing it really fucking changed was the ttk against medium, literally the exact same thing with cl 40. Both weapons have the same ttk against lights as they've always have y'all are just whining babies who want to put the blame on an under powered class who barely complains yet somehow always has the blame put on them despite nearly every nerf not affecting the ttk against them.
I main light (the other classes I play a lot as well but my overall preference is light) and the cl-40 was annoying to fight just because the splash damage was also a lot stronger, making going up against it a somewhat unfair fight. As a light as well, there were way to work around it, but when there were 2-3 mediums running the cl-40, that was just unfun to play. The model is still a good gun, I don’t think it needed a damage nerf and maybe just a range nerf due to it outclassing all the ARs in all departments other than long range.
The only gun with bad recoil in the game is the lh1 and that gun would be #1 if it had non. Even with its recoil it has the most static crosshairs so the recoil is actually fair. The fcar is a lazer stop the cap. I dominate every game with it.
@@justingilbride6661 LH1 is a tap gun so recoil is hardly ever an issue lmao plus it’s very predictable and easy to control. i don’t use the fcar much at all but ik it is pretty widespread and undeniable the recoil is horrible. I never said the gun itself was bad
@@reapertemptationsthey do fucking not lmfao. Light has the worst gadgets of all the classes just cause of the terrible team play capability. All of lights gadgets (except gate way and maybe invis bomb) are all only really good for the light themselves. They don't play off the team, which is a maaaaajor reason they aren't picked in ranked.
no weapon for light, gravity cube copy and heavy grapple copy, dang the balancing must be seriously frickin impressive because this really doesn't seem that much to me... not to be so hard on them, but they need bigger and flashier moves to attract players also Embark really sayin "hmm lets give the medium ANOTHER shotgun, but instead its gonna be a RANGED FLAMETHROWER????"
Gravity cube copy? are you braindead, it quite literally does the exact opposite of the gravity cube. Another shotgun is a bit of a L but i doubt it will be a 'ranged flamethrower' it will probably just do like 2 ticks of damage like the flamethrower does once your out of its actual flame.
@@collintaddiken1400 Funny enough, I find all the complainers come together on this channel. It's pure entertainment when a bunch of D1 tards come together on a outcast channel
And they added another shotgun.... because season 2 and season 4s shotgun did so well right? Oh, wait. If these devs keep actively trying to be counterintuitive with there decision making, I don't really have hope for the future of The Finals. At this point I don't even want to know what their new balancing changes are💀 if we're going off what they've done in the past, it's going to be terrible.
Ks-23 and m24 matter are pretty good and underrated, sure they don't deal as much damage as the double barreled or the 1216 but they require more skill to use and ultimately feel more rewarding. I agree that embark overnerfs a lot of things but they said they want to revisit a lot of the garbage changes they made (RIP mesh shield)
@@Kraber_57 The shotguns are decent but they're a b!tch to balance and automatic weapons are way more easy to balance. Plus most fps players like automatic weapons and I know a ridiculous amount of people that hate shotguns. It's kinda like they're purposely doing the opposite of what the majority of players want over and over again, it's just weird.
@collintaddiken1400 Wow, thanks for the groundbreaking advice, Socrates. Here I was, thinking sharing opinions on a public discussion thread was the point, but apparently, I needed a life coach to remind me I can do whatever I want. Truly inspiring stuff-can’t wait for your TED Talk!
Nothing but maybe the sponsor swag is hittin in my opinion. Maybe its because I've been playing too much lately but more that likely it's because I'd have to pull myself away from POE 2 for some very niche things coming in season 5. Skipped season 2 and came back so I'm not worried and still love this game!
bland?! new map, two guns, two gadgets, jukebox, sponsors, clubs?! people like you wouldn’t be satisfied with all the money in the world. But bye ✌️ we won’t miss you
WE FINALLY GOT OUR JUKEBOX MODE WOOOOOO
Yessir the Latinos gonna be happy
I am very happy!!
Embark is slamming content into watch season while also making arc raiders. As a small studio that’s insane, but far me fav dev team
I like the idea of sponsor loyalty, thats cool
I'm NEVER taking the Steal the Spotlight soundtrack off. Iykyk
Yessirrrrr
SEASON 1 MUSIC HERE WE COME
Star dust and season one 🎉
@@Chickensea10 I pull up the season 1 win music every so often because it is so much better than any other
bro that was one of the most fire events ever!
I wish they would use tripwires and turrets in some community event one day...
I wonder what Rob meant by the map "rotating".
The gadgeds are the horizons ult and ash tactical from apex lmao
Finally some good-looking Aztec gear in a game🙏🙏
My man is talking about nerfs before anything is released 🤦♂️
I'm more than sure that the Shak-50 will turn out to be the same crap as the Famas and 93R. No burst-firing weapon has yet proven to be worthy.
@@АлександрШпалаfamas is absolutely broken?
@@АлександрШпалаmaybe you have a skill issue with famas, don’t be spreading misinformation
@@АлександрШпалаfamas and model are meta for medium rn lmao
@williamfuentes2581 yall are dumb. He's talking about how the weapons worked when they first dropped back in season 2. They had to get several buffs just to be considered as viable weapons
I was really hoping for solos and duos cashout.. it’s one of the most requested things to add so I don’t know why it’s not a priority , more people would jump on knowing they can play solos or duos
I want embark to experiment with Light and try to make it a less sweaty class and more of a tactical, team-built choice where you won’t die as fast as a CoD ttk.
México YAY! ! ! :3
Can't wait for the new map
We got long rage heavy
I want some more fully auto weapons for the game so bad, like we only have two per class and we haven’t gotten any new ones since the release of the game, why do people not want fully auto guns???
Single shot weapons allow for more skill expression
@ they’re more slow clunky and boring to use
Skill issue @@wifiwebtorso6405
@@wifiwebtorso6405how are they boring, I'd say they the movement everyone does while using them to avoid being hit by enemies single shot makes fights considerably more interesting
@@collintaddiken1400 I mean I can’t say they are more objectively boring because something that’s fun or boring is bound to be subjective and it’s someone’s opinion, but I don’t think it’s as particularly as fun because in a game with extremely fast movement, and people flying everywhere and really fast pace it isn’t fun having such a slow fire rate that people can literally run through ur bullets without being hit. On top of that, the hip fire for a bunch of the semi auto options Like for example the pike, Lh1, have HORRENDOUS and I mean absolutely awful hip fire accuracy and I think something that is extremely inaccurate has gotta be extremely frustrating to use. The hip fire is so bad it’s almost unuseable during hip fire and your forced to constantly aim down sights with those weapons while the fully autos have more accurate hip fire (if you don’t think that’s true it’s objectively true, the hip fire on the M11, Xp, Akm, FCAR, Lewis, and m60 all have way tighter hip fire than the horrendous hip fire accuracy of the pike and Lh1 and if you include the target moving, and you moving in a game like this its soooooo awful trying to land hip fire shots with the semi autos, and your forced to really play with only aiming down sights where every other gun both hip fire and aiming down is viable. So yeah I don’t think semi auto weapons are as fun as fully autos where in a fast paced game it feels a lot smoother and satisfying to use, and I truly think they should add more fully autos and prioritize that over semi autos
Its a small thing but PLEASE have the announcers say new stuff and add more team names 🙏
STOP NERFING SHOTGUNS. Yes I’m supposed to do more damage than someone with a pistol or ar up close
still don't know about ps4, anytime someone breaks something their frames are gonna drop
So there is gonna be 2 new meta weapons now?
the more meta weapons the better, embark i think does balancing super well
@iloveglasscups 🥱
Viva Mexico
Incoming lights whining about medium finally getting a second shotgun
I just want 175 hp
@@satjre nae, light should get even less health
@@frankdrawsnear99950/10 ragebait
@@frankdrawsnear9995
75 HP for light
ahh the invisible lights with weapons that can kill you in 1 second pretending they are good.
I hate Kyoto . Please let us vote on maps
Shak-50 is LITERALLY mw2019 Oden but you use the burst perk that shoot twice per trigger pull, in the trailer it even got the gold season pass oden blueprint iron sight
we need fsr 3.1.2 upscaling update. fsr 2 is too old
Fcar buff plz!!!
Yeah the recoil is so bad it’s basically just a worse ak
@ I beam with it it’s just the damage is too low needs to be high risk high reward
Nah damage feels better with scar than ak. I think scar does more damage per bullets but it has less bullets in a mag
@Pizza_Dough1 yea but the dps values are very close anyway. AKM is just a better fcar. I am using it alot atm and it needs more damage per bullet considering the recoil is quite a but harder to control
@@Pizza_Dough1 naww it doesn’t we need the less bullets more damage back
Engimo is gone...big sad...
Series x and not s… heartbreaking
Series s is dog water
No new light weapon???? Why are they skimping on the content this season. Id rather no new map and more specializations and weapons thh
Light doesn’t need anything at all
Light has 2 SMG, 2 SG, 2 melee weapons, 2 pistols and 2 rifles, throwing knives and a bow, and many unusual gadgets. Don't you think this is a little unfair to other classes?
they alr have the move guns lmao. new map is ten times better
Lights have more weapon choices than H or M
Another season of L for lights !
Lights have had nothing but Ws since season 2
@MalenkoDRiker tell that to all the lights in the higher elo's of rank diamond/ruby...all 5 of them. I'm sorry but I base my experiences off of ranked and not quick play. Season 2 was the only decent season for Light. Some say S3 but that was TA which is not even finals too begin with. S4 or should I say season of the model you wouldn't see lights past low to mid plat. Now this season light doesn't even get a f-ing weapon. Bout done with this game.
Bouta cook these lights wit ma new shotgun... I hope its model worthy since they whined the model to the ground
Lol the model is still the best gun in the game
I like how people seem to act as if lights complained the most when the fucking thing is just as good against lights as it was before. The only thing it really fucking changed was the ttk against medium, literally the exact same thing with cl 40. Both weapons have the same ttk against lights as they've always have y'all are just whining babies who want to put the blame on an under powered class who barely complains yet somehow always has the blame put on them despite nearly every nerf not affecting the ttk against them.
@@nonelast4152I feel like the cl40 actually requires aiming now for good damage. I'm not complaining I actually like this nerf even as a cl40 user.
The thing's I could say about medium
I main light (the other classes I play a lot as well but my overall preference is light) and the cl-40 was annoying to fight just because the splash damage was also a lot stronger, making going up against it a somewhat unfair fight. As a light as well, there were way to work around it, but when there were 2-3 mediums running the cl-40, that was just unfun to play. The model is still a good gun, I don’t think it needed a damage nerf and maybe just a range nerf due to it outclassing all the ARs in all departments other than long range.
Please fix the mf egregious recoil on the guns for the love of god.
Skill issue
@ light player spotted
@@Brandon-jf2dwit really isn’t that hard to control them? maybe fcar they do need to buff that
The only gun with bad recoil in the game is the lh1 and that gun would be #1 if it had non. Even with its recoil it has the most static crosshairs so the recoil is actually fair. The fcar is a lazer stop the cap. I dominate every game with it.
@@justingilbride6661 LH1 is a tap gun so recoil is hardly ever an issue lmao plus it’s very predictable and easy to control. i don’t use the fcar much at all but ik it is pretty widespread and undeniable the recoil is horrible. I never said the gun itself was bad
RIP Light. Seriously feels like the forgotten class
They got a gadget and have the most and best gadgets?
@@reapertemptationsthey do fucking not lmfao. Light has the worst gadgets of all the classes just cause of the terrible team play capability. All of lights gadgets (except gate way and maybe invis bomb) are all only really good for the light themselves. They don't play off the team, which is a maaaaajor reason they aren't picked in ranked.
fuck Light
They are the most played class.....
fuck light class
no weapon for light, gravity cube copy and heavy grapple copy, dang the balancing must be seriously frickin impressive because this really doesn't seem that much to me... not to be so hard on them, but they need bigger and flashier moves to attract players
also Embark really sayin "hmm lets give the medium ANOTHER shotgun, but instead its gonna be a RANGED FLAMETHROWER????"
yeah, and no new specializations either, pretty boring.
Gravity cube copy? are you braindead, it quite literally does the exact opposite of the gravity cube. Another shotgun is a bit of a L but i doubt it will be a 'ranged flamethrower' it will probably just do like 2 ticks of damage like the flamethrower does once your out of its actual flame.
bwahahaha no new light weapon
Try to import content into the game with barely 100 devs working on the game with 2 animators. Yall find anything to complain abt nowadays 🙄
every class now has 2 shotguns, id imagine next season would be more normal weapons per season
They need to buff light
So has a light player yet another season of no new specialization and no new gun and if the gadget is shit we basically got nothing
You got a new gun last season, lights also have the most weapons in the game and most gadgets in the game...shut up
@@collintaddiken1400 Funny enough, I find all the complainers come together on this channel. It's pure entertainment when a bunch of D1 tards come together on a outcast channel
And they added another shotgun.... because season 2 and season 4s shotgun did so well right? Oh, wait. If these devs keep actively trying to be counterintuitive with there decision making, I don't really have hope for the future of The Finals. At this point I don't even want to know what their new balancing changes are💀 if we're going off what they've done in the past, it's going to be terrible.
Ks-23 and m24 matter are pretty good and underrated, sure they don't deal as much damage as the double barreled or the 1216 but they require more skill to use and ultimately feel more rewarding. I agree that embark overnerfs a lot of things but they said they want to revisit a lot of the garbage changes they made (RIP mesh shield)
Both the shottys they added are very good.
@@Kraber_57 The shotguns are decent but they're a b!tch to balance and automatic weapons are way more easy to balance. Plus most fps players like automatic weapons and I know a ridiculous amount of people that hate shotguns. It's kinda like they're purposely doing the opposite of what the majority of players want over and over again, it's just weird.
NGL I feel like the balance of the game is pretty good right now, I'm having fun🤷
both of these shotguns are really good what are you on
Honestly might skip this season, seems kinda dull 😢
Not an airport, don't need to announce your departure. If you dont wanna play then don't. If you do then do. It's simple
@collintaddiken1400 Wow, thanks for the groundbreaking advice, Socrates. Here I was, thinking sharing opinions on a public discussion thread was the point, but apparently, I needed a life coach to remind me I can do whatever I want. Truly inspiring stuff-can’t wait for your TED Talk!
How is this more bland than other seasons?
Nothing but maybe the sponsor swag is hittin in my opinion. Maybe its because I've been playing too much lately but more that likely it's because I'd have to pull myself away from POE 2 for some very niche things coming in season 5. Skipped season 2 and came back so I'm not worried and still love this game!
bland?! new map, two guns, two gadgets, jukebox, sponsors, clubs?! people like you wouldn’t be satisfied with all the money in the world. But bye ✌️ we won’t miss you