F1 Ultra Testing - Fiber IR Laser - Fails on Low Power
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- So I decided to test the Fiber IR on the F1 Ultra a little more. To my surpriseiIt failed on 10% power (at least my unit did). There were some halos and other minor details so far that I have encountered and more to be tested on a second video.
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as important as overscan is - it is amazing that they have not done something to fix that. Your only option is to really slow down to try and avoid the issue.
and at that point the super fast laser is not super fast anymore lol. 🙄🙄
could you try the Halotest with and without smart paths itellegent path?
I use the default with smart on this test. The next metal test is going full manual and nothing Xtool smart for sure. Normally the smart path takes longer on everything
I'm pretty sure that it did fire at 10% just was too weak and fast to see or yield any results. Even running that low of power barely does anything to plastics. My tests showed almost the the same thing. For my testing the only metal the showed any results at 10% was titanium, copper, rose gold, and anodizing aluminum. Everything else was barely noticeable.
Side note - The F1 and F1 Ultra need to be fully LightBurn compatible, to get the full capabilities out of these machines. Right now they are just under basic galvo.
I usually mark pla at 100% on a 2w. So 10% on a 20w should be fine. But does not fire
xTool is doing a real disservice to it's customers by not having their machines conform to the standards that all the better companies do to make sure they work with LB.
I have the same issues. Halo ant not firing with 10%. Did you get any further?
Still doing test and finding inconsistent results hard to say this works or this doesn't because is kind of random. Works perfectly on one and when I send the same.thinn as a repeat job fails and doing it for a third time can be perfect or fail there is no way to have a real result so far
@@AlivePixelCreates you mean the halo right? Under 11 percentage also in engraving mode I get no beam…
@@chrisr1241 yeah not fire here under 11%
@@AlivePixelCreates The support answered me that the ir laser needs a minimum amount of voltage to fire. They recommend not using it under 50%. Hmm... thats strange...
@@chrisr1241 that means that if not well made in my opinion
did you get a resolution? mine is doing the same on both IR and Diode
nothing yet. I'm trying o exhaust testing and more stuff to make sure is nothing I can adjust.
Have you reached out to them directly to see what's going on? My first IR 2w module for my S1 was defective and they replaced it for me. The second works, but I'm starting to see 2w is just a joke. My F1 Ultra arrives tomorrow. So I will try your settings at some point to see if maybe your unit is having issues, or if there is a thing that Xtool needs to patch/update?
I'm finishing testing soon and I have a list of things I need to ask support, since they take usually a lot to get back, I want to have all in one request rather than go for one at the time.
Any updates on this halo issue? I saw this today using the blue light laser over 2000mm/s.
Still getting the halo. Is better at slower speeds but definitely not what the machine is advertised for.
How do you create the test grid so itasers at those settings?
I made a video on how to make them here ua-cam.com/video/IaXBY6DmTtw/v-deo.html
Since Lightburn has control of overscan %, it would be interesting to see if the halo would still show up with overscan. Thanks keep them coming!
exactly I haven try anything on Lightburn yet. so that will be interesting to see
I think overscan would definitely solve the halo issue, and I think Daniel eluded to that in the start of the video briefly...that it was mostly due to not having overscan. Not having overscan means that the laser beam has more energy at the edges that is not disbursed out evenly as it is in the other areas of the engraving...which can lead to many failures. Daniel knows this and is trying to illustrate what the XCS software does and how it performs on its own...and not using the laser with 3rd party software.
@@lasersandbeyond Agreed, the extra energy from stopping and changing directions on the design, shows most in the mid-values and is not effecting shading as much at the low or high end. Some areas of the machine and software are not "Ultra" yet.
I think it's most likely that at 10% it's just not enough power to affect the stainless steel. I doubt 11% would have marked either in that test, but somewhere between 10% and whatever the next power level was is the minimum power for stainless steel.
but also didn't mark the coated card, remember that is 2w and that is what I was used to use on the F1 and worked fine.
@@AlivePixelCreates I still haven’t received my F1 Ultra. Hopefully I don’t have any of these issues. I will be testing out the low power on stainless steel though just to see what’s happening.
@@TonyMueller please let me.kniwnhiwnit goes. Also keep in mind that low power might be better for plastics.
@@AlivePixelCreates Also the lowest speed at 10% should have resulted in more energy density than some of the faster speeds at 20%
@@gregparker5732 true
I'm confused why it matters so much to you how it looks on what are considered unusable combinations. The optimal results are on the bottom of the card, so naturally the ones that are not optimal will look like garbage. I don't see any of what you're calling "halo" in the good areas, so why does it matter?
So lower power or faster speed doesn't mean garbage. A consistent machine will make the engraving with no problems just not as define. I've been using multiple machines so is not like I have no idea what would happen. Also why is not firing at 10% power. Because it is not needed? Based on your input it is not full blast power wind do good. That is not how lasers.work tho
@AlivePixelCreates but those areas you mention look like garbage, I can't think of a single time I'd use an engraving like that, there is hardly any material removed and it's not whay you look for in a coated metal card, you want to reveal the shiny metal underneath
I never said lower power or faster speed meant garbage, I said the results you pointed out with halos looked like garbage anyway and we're not in the realm of acceptable engraving. None of thise marks provide the mark a person is looking for when doing metal cards, so why does it matter if there are things there you don't like....they are shit marks anyway
@@lasersandbeyond but that means that or is under power or is advertised as 20w fiber when does not have that power. Because a 2 what at 100% clean the coat but a 20w on 20% doesn't?
@@AlivePixelCreates I don't understand what you're asking or implying.
@@lasersandbeyond run a test on your F1, then use similar settings on the ultra, if the F1 clean a coat with the IR with 2w why the ultra needs to be at least on 5w to do the same operation
Can you share the settings to test in my unit?
I use the test grid maker from XCS. Look on my channel I did a tutorial how to create them
@@AlivePixelCreates Same behavior! 10% power does not show up! Hallow Effect to!
@@AlivePixelCreates I had to start at 20% because somewhere in the programing it will not fire on anything lower the 20%. In lightburn you can change those settings to fire on lower %'s.
@@stanlyipkiss8265 that is messed up
The audio on this is absolutely terrible. Put some headphones on and listen to it. If you have a stereo microphone, turn off the stereo or throw it away, they're garbage.
Thank you, the audio is bad also after filtering and cleaning as much as possible, I have a huge fan and portable AC running and the room is warm with all off to get better audio will be 100 deg here.