That is not how gravity works. Human beings get shrunk by gravity because we are soft bodies, but the mass of the earth is pulling our feet with more strength than our heads. Cars, being more rigid objects, would get stretched by the M6's astronomical weight
At the start of the race when you flew the drone into the tree, it had my 4 year old daughter and me laughing so hard 😂 she loves GTS and GT7... Future of racing 🤩 thanks Steve
It's always been baffling to me why RWD is so odd in racing games. Almost all the truly incredible handling car universally are RWD. Yet in games they're always a spinning tired, oversteery fucking nightmare. Nice to see some games making positive steps forward with stuff like this.
What you experienced on lap 8 is exactly what you experienced in the MX-5 at Silverstone "dirty air" going through Eau Rouge. Don't tuck in slipstream for high speed turns. Stay out. Tuck after.
That update that fixed this car among others helped me get gold on the Nordschleife circuit experience. I never thought I'd get it but with that update I felt confident in the car and managed to do it. I play on controller so it was a real godsend.
I feel like I deserve an extra 6 mil for completing it before the update, I spent 5 days straight trying to finish it and lost a lot of hair in the process 😅
@@internets24 I tried so hard to, but never got even close to gold, always kept spinning off in the tight high speed corners, I'll stay start trying again I guess
@@internets24 I had the exact same thing, even lost it once on 1 tenth of a second. Felt like picking up a bat and destroying everything even closely resembling a PS5 and/or TV. Maddening.
@@internets24 I completed it once pre-patch but I was 7 seconds off gold though that was good enough for silver on my first completion. I didn't try again for a couple weeks but then I heard about the patch and went back to trying again and ended up doing it. I had help though; the UA-camr Doughinator had a video on his channel that included pace notes for the lap which I listened to while doing my runs because I just couldn't remember the whole lap and those notes really got me over the top. I'd link it but you can't put links in comments anymore.
Polyphony improved rear-traction but all my homies want the brake-bias back, that made the M6 so good in GT sport. Made it turn in so much better, it's braking is already really good.
Hey! Just passing by to say thank you. I've founded you channel about 3 weeks ago and you're helping me a lot you know, a lot a irl problems and help a lot to have fun videos to watch
I knew something had changed, my PS5 downloaded everything automatically so I didn't even know there was an update. I started ripping a few laps and was like damn RWD cars actually exit a corner how they're supposed to!
Even though that BMW is heavy enough to have it's own atmosphere, I love it to bits! Glad to see things moving in the right direction. High HP RWD cars were suffering hard in GT7.
Great race. I was noticing that in the beginning of the race Evan10 was making best lap one and one again, and he was at 5th position. At some point in the middle of the race he was right behind your car... That fight between the 3rd and 5th position seems to have been very interesting as well
The Hyundai is a very underrated Group 3, solid pace on it and no glaring weaknesses. It's become one of my favourites to compete with as I'm often the only one in it and it's nice to spring a few surprises. Little kick of oversteer but nothing unmanageable like the BMW was or the Ferrari, Ford GT etc.
When the composure is this high, I'm amazed anyone can pass each other with these group of guys. Qualifying is unbelievably important with this level of skill. I think I'v been influenced to pick up the sticks again & see just how rusty I am at sims.
Actually the Lexus was keeping par with the Subaru if anyone is looking for alternative, I actually posted a win at spa this weekend. It also has good tire life and fuel management
The update really fixed a lot of issues with the RWD vehicles big time. I haven't tried Driving my M6 yet. Not since before the update 1.13. I'll definitely check it out before I go to work. Right now I'm really loving the GTR GT500, And BRZ 300
I think you should experiment with slow corners more, looks like you need to do a 99% perfect job to get same exit speeds like other cars. Something feels odd on the slow corners, but i can't put my finger on what is making it slow. For sure the car needs more tweaking from the devs.
I'm confused about the new physics. I keep hearing how it's now more realistic as GT cars are quite grippy irl, but don't they use traction control irl too? And weren't the cars basically fine before as long as you used some degree of traction control? If you took a real life GT car and turned off TC, would it not be pretty hard to control, à la pre-patch physics? All that aside I'm new to Gran Turismo and loving the game. 😄
Yes, for example if you try to race on ACC without TC on you will not only struggle to control the car but you will also be slower. I think the issue here is that GT doesn't have the advanced TC simulation required to simulate the TC on a GT3 car
real life race cars with traction control (and that is far from all of them, for example V8 supercars super3 series prohibit TC devices!) use it sparingly with multiple maps on the fly eg 'preserve tyres'. I doubt any drivers let the TC meter out power. And before the upgrade gt7 with TC on did not stop oversteer which then turned into a spin.
It wasn't just the gt3 cars that had snappy oversteer, even something like the Subaru BRZ was tricky to get power down (which is completely unrealistic)
Bro that drone footage was too real. first time i flew my new drone i flew it over some high trees and lost it immediately. in my searches for my drone i found another lost drone but not my one.
My only problem with the "physics" update is that while they used some fancy phrasing like "updating the physics geometry", I'm pretty sure they just adjusted some variable that sets the grip or coefficient of friction for rear tires. Suddenly certain cars like the WRX Gr.4 and Huracan Gr.4 feel like they have a 10:90 F/R brake bias, like you're pulling the e-brake and locking up the rear tires, leading to massive oversteer and instability under braking. Most people probably just wanted more rear tire grip during cornering, but it seems to apply while braking in a straight line also. Still well worth the tradeoff, but I hope they nuance it a bit.
Seeing the current state of gt7 makes me happy I didn't shell out the money for a PS4/PS5 Will settle for the upcoming motorsport game coming out 2023 spring. Looks like a complete overhaul. Genuinely interested in what it brings to the table.
PD should have worked on TC system rather than making every rear end car that easy to drive without using it imho. Nowadays the TC is crucial to drive GT3 cars that fast and they can round faster laps using that.
Agreed. I never needed TC on any of my rear wheel drive cars before the update. Ppl need to learn to tune, feather the throttle and lift off at certain spots. Now all my tuned cars have so much grip, I had to detune some of them for some additional power.
I respectfully disagree, before the update most rwd cars had zero corner exit grip... that is not realistic. A lot of cars you can go wide open throttle existing a corner in real life would break the back end loose at 30% throttle in a medium speed corner. Modern cars have a lot of grip these days, and making them have basically no corner exit grip is not more towards a sim... it's just making it more difficult.
@@vstaritz real gt7 cars also require professional drivers constantly dancing on the edge of speed and total loss of grip. Tc is not needed in non sim racing games like GT7. It surely is beneficial to some in the same way gran theft auto driving physics were beneficial.
Improved maybe but still has a long way to go! There are too many things missing for a game that’s been out as long as it as. Not quite as bad as Cyberpunk (that would be difficult) but it still needs a lot of work. BOP, tracks like Silverstone, still dull daily races, no endurance race options (just like GT Sport!). Still, at least the roulette and MTx work! They made sure of that!
I can't believe Gran Turismo actually made balancing changes. I'd lost all hope in balance tweaks after playing Forza Horizon and seeing no updates for months or years at a time, which result only in certain cars being banned and no actual fixes.
The game seems pretty interesting. Would be nice to try it out tbh, too bad there's no pc version. Will just need to wait for the new forza motorsport.
Great race! Well defended in the not-ideal machine. (Did you notice that Evan10 gave up his/her spot right before the finish line to give NissmanR34 the P3?)
It always rains at Spa, why i do not know. Haven't played GT7 for a while, just bought a wheel (Logitech G29 ) so i need to get it set up correctly as i've never raced with a wheel before.
Did you know that the M6 is so big, that there is a constant risk of it pulling the moon out of orbit
The moon is secured in your mums gravity field, no worries ;)
Any bigger and she will like it.
@@CristanioPeweyyy perhaps
The m6 really isn't that big though
Turning the tides, eh?
The m6 isn’t big, just nearby cars get compressed under its gravitational pull and look small in comparison
That is not how gravity works.
Human beings get shrunk by gravity because we are soft bodies, but the mass of the earth is pulling our feet with more strength than our heads.
Cars, being more rigid objects, would get stretched by the M6's astronomical weight
@@Gatitasecsii wtf
@@Gatitasecsii They dont get pulled directly in. They orbit in speeds so high, that they appear to have shrunk. 🤪
At the start of the race when you flew the drone into the tree, it had my 4 year old daughter and me laughing so hard 😂 she loves GTS and GT7... Future of racing 🤩 thanks Steve
It's always been baffling to me why RWD is so odd in racing games. Almost all the truly incredible handling car universally are RWD. Yet in games they're always a spinning tired, oversteery fucking nightmare. Nice to see some games making positive steps forward with stuff like this.
Yeah .. the Corvette C6 Zr1 in GT7 does not drive anything close to how magical it drives in reality ...
That’s because drivers in real life have talent and traction control , both things you are probably missing
True racing sims on PC have done it well for a long time now. I'm glad GT is improving because I love this game!
@@DanielFenandes ooooooo you're hard 😉
@@wtf3r you need to now how to drive to enjoy rwd properly
What you experienced on lap 8 is exactly what you experienced in the MX-5 at Silverstone "dirty air" going through Eau Rouge. Don't tuck in slipstream for high speed turns. Stay out. Tuck after.
because u dont have the air pushing u down on the ground right?
@@mr.gingerbread1194 Yessir
The MX-5 have basically no downforce though, so not the same.
FR cars are back baby! (Not that they ever left)
They were just shy for a bit
Daniel Ric vibes from Monza 21 :D
When people say "My oh my, how the tables have turned!" they're not referring to tables. They're referring to an M6 GT3.
That update that fixed this car among others helped me get gold on the Nordschleife circuit experience. I never thought I'd get it but with that update I felt confident in the car and managed to do it. I play on controller so it was a real godsend.
nice. that would have felt good.
I feel like I deserve an extra 6 mil for completing it before the update, I spent 5 days straight trying to finish it and lost a lot of hair in the process 😅
@@internets24 I tried so hard to, but never got even close to gold, always kept spinning off in the tight high speed corners, I'll stay start trying again I guess
@@internets24 I had the exact same thing, even lost it once on 1 tenth of a second. Felt like picking up a bat and destroying everything even closely resembling a PS5 and/or TV. Maddening.
@@internets24 I completed it once pre-patch but I was 7 seconds off gold though that was good enough for silver on my first completion. I didn't try again for a couple weeks but then I heard about the patch and went back to trying again and ended up doing it. I had help though; the UA-camr Doughinator had a video on his channel that included pace notes for the lap which I listened to while doing my runs because I just couldn't remember the whole lap and those notes really got me over the top. I'd link it but you can't put links in comments anymore.
Polyphony improved rear-traction but all my homies want the brake-bias back, that made the M6 so good in GT sport. Made it turn in so much better, it's braking is already really good.
Hey! Just passing by to say thank you. I've founded you channel about 3 weeks ago and you're helping me a lot you know, a lot a irl problems and help a lot to have fun videos to watch
I think I can speak for all of us when I say that I'm really glad that the FIA intro has made it's return to the channel
that FIA intro really does show that Steve is a special kind of special
This was such good racing. Extremely close and well driven. Doesn't get more exciting than these races
6:28 that hit marker caught me off guard LOL!
Press F to deploy drone.
5 seconds later...
Press F to pay respect to the drone
I knew something had changed, my PS5 downloaded everything automatically so I didn't even know there was an update. I started ripping a few laps and was like damn RWD cars actually exit a corner how they're supposed to!
Loved the officially licensed FIA intro
I reckon you could have carried a bit more rolling speed through t1. It seemed odd you were losing 3-4 tenths in t1 alone.
Delightful was great seeing Alex back on the podium..good luck in Miami
Until one of you stops looking like each other that joke will never get old
Everyone remember where you were on the momentous day when Super GT qualified P1 in a BMW M6. Simply awe-inspiring.
It looked like they both slowed down and let you get back on track infront of them. That was nice of them
This video really reminded me of the race he did on forza 7 with the bmw, if you haven’t watched it I strongly suggest it
Really like how you've improved to be a good driver over the years
Great to hear RWD has been adjusted, was really struggling before
Super fun race, you can really see the BMW lacking in areas when you point it out. Solid drive at the end holding that pack off, enjoyed this one GT
Even though that BMW is heavy enough to have it's own atmosphere, I love it to bits!
Glad to see things moving in the right direction. High HP RWD cars were suffering hard in GT7.
Hey @Super GT Please tell PD we want dynamic weather in just one daily race each week. It would be SO good!!
On every track would be amazing not just in sport but at random
Great race. I was noticing that in the beginning of the race Evan10 was making best lap one and one again, and he was at 5th position. At some point in the middle of the race he was right behind your car... That fight between the 3rd and 5th position seems to have been very interesting as well
The Hyundai is a very underrated Group 3, solid pace on it and no glaring weaknesses. It's become one of my favourites to compete with as I'm often the only one in it and it's nice to spring a few surprises. Little kick of oversteer but nothing unmanageable like the BMW was or the Ferrari, Ford GT etc.
Fantastic "Intro Clip" with SuperGt flying a drone into a tree branch!! Well played sirs! Well played!!🤣😂 @6:21
When the composure is this high, I'm amazed anyone can pass each other with these group of guys. Qualifying is unbelievably important with this level of skill. I think I'v been influenced to pick up the sticks again & see just how rusty I am at sims.
What happened to the stream yesterday?? Hope all is well m8!
What happened?
I would also like to know
Where did the stream go?
Life would be impossible to live without drone insurance! Some great racing Steve, keep it up.
It’s interesting that the grip meter also accounts for wet spots on a track
Actually the Lexus was keeping par with the Subaru if anyone is looking for alternative, I actually posted a win at spa this weekend. It also has good tire life and fuel management
the part with the drone is amazing, get in there Steve !
Steve finishing in front of Nissman, Tidgney and Kie all at once?? That's quite the feat. Obviously BMW OP XD.
Kie started from the back intentionally. He already got 420 points earlier.
The update really fixed a lot of issues with the RWD vehicles big time. I haven't tried Driving my M6 yet. Not since before the update 1.13. I'll definitely check it out before I go to work. Right now I'm really loving the GTR GT500, And BRZ 300
The FIA intro's are true gold. Everything is so truly epic about them.
RIP to the drone 😂
Thank God for the RWD traction- I've been dreading playing through the muscle car portion of the cafe due to never being able to grip
My goodness. Thank you for the upload!
You have inspired me to get a wheel and download GT7 , the wheel is on the way and ill be getting GT7 when the wheel is here
Great vid Steve... The precision is hypnotising! 👍 💪
I think you should experiment with slow corners more, looks like you need to do a 99% perfect job to get same exit speeds like other cars.
Something feels odd on the slow corners, but i can't put my finger on what is making it slow. For sure the car needs more tweaking from the devs.
The "FIA intro" literally killed me.... good stuff there mate..
The best FIA intro yet! Great content keep it up!
The FIA intro had me howling. Your videos are always good entertainment. Cheers, mate!
Great race . I just love the way weather chenges is awesome..
Massively enjoyed this race mate. The Supra had some pace!
Love watching your races. Tried a few online ones for the first time last night and did surprisingly well 😄
Love the longer race vids. Enjoy the strategies from everyone.
More please 😃
I'm confused about the new physics. I keep hearing how it's now more realistic as GT cars are quite grippy irl, but don't they use traction control irl too? And weren't the cars basically fine before as long as you used some degree of traction control? If you took a real life GT car and turned off TC, would it not be pretty hard to control, à la pre-patch physics? All that aside I'm new to Gran Turismo and loving the game. 😄
You’re not alone, I heard the same thing, PD got feedback from GT drivers saying they do not spin out that easy…
The snap oversteer happened with the old physics even when TC was on.
Yes, for example if you try to race on ACC without TC on you will not only struggle to control the car but you will also be slower. I think the issue here is that GT doesn't have the advanced TC simulation required to simulate the TC on a GT3 car
real life race cars with traction control (and that is far from all of them, for example V8 supercars super3 series prohibit TC devices!) use it sparingly with multiple maps on the fly eg 'preserve tyres'. I doubt any drivers let the TC meter out power. And before the upgrade gt7 with TC on did not stop oversteer which then turned into a spin.
It wasn't just the gt3 cars that had snappy oversteer, even something like the Subaru BRZ was tricky to get power down (which is completely unrealistic)
That manufactures intro gave me goosebumps… but not in the way you may be thinking
Bro that drone footage was too real. first time i flew my new drone i flew it over some high trees and lost it immediately. in my searches for my drone i found another lost drone but not my one.
I really hope they update the list of gt3 cars, I want to see the m4
Class video and great race @Super GT … how many points did you get for it? Strong lobby so should be 350ish?
If I recall is was 319 points which is a good score for me. I don't often get above 300
@@Super_GT nice, yeah but you’re starting to score 300+ regularly now which is brilliant 👍
My only problem with the "physics" update is that while they used some fancy phrasing like "updating the physics geometry", I'm pretty sure they just adjusted some variable that sets the grip or coefficient of friction for rear tires.
Suddenly certain cars like the WRX Gr.4 and Huracan Gr.4 feel like they have a 10:90 F/R brake bias, like you're pulling the e-brake and locking up the rear tires, leading to massive oversteer and instability under braking. Most people probably just wanted more rear tire grip during cornering, but it seems to apply while braking in a straight line also.
Still well worth the tradeoff, but I hope they nuance it a bit.
Seeing the current state of gt7 makes me happy I didn't shell out the money for a PS4/PS5
Will settle for the upcoming motorsport game coming out 2023 spring. Looks like a complete overhaul. Genuinely interested in what it brings to the table.
NIce race Steve! :D
Oh gawd everywhere where its like serious competition are there those damn Slovenians
God damn greatest FIA intro of all time
PD should have worked on TC system rather than making every rear end car that easy to drive without using it imho. Nowadays the TC is crucial to drive GT3 cars that fast and they can round faster laps using that.
Yep.
The Further this game goes from being a Sim, The further I go too.
Agreed. I never needed TC on any of my rear wheel drive cars before the update.
Ppl need to learn to tune, feather the throttle and lift off at certain spots.
Now all my tuned cars have so much grip, I had to detune some of them for some additional power.
@@TonicofSonic real GT cars all use TC.
I respectfully disagree, before the update most rwd cars had zero corner exit grip... that is not realistic. A lot of cars you can go wide open throttle existing a corner in real life would break the back end loose at 30% throttle in a medium speed corner. Modern cars have a lot of grip these days, and making them have basically no corner exit grip is not more towards a sim... it's just making it more difficult.
@@vstaritz real gt7 cars also require professional drivers constantly dancing on the edge of speed and total loss of grip.
Tc is not needed in non sim racing games like GT7.
It surely is beneficial to some in the same way gran theft auto driving physics were beneficial.
noticed Stevegaming gave back a position at the end of the race, good job m8.
Improved maybe but still has a long way to go! There are too many things missing for a game that’s been out as long as it as. Not quite as bad as Cyberpunk (that would be difficult) but it still needs a lot of work. BOP, tracks like Silverstone, still dull daily races, no endurance race options (just like GT Sport!). Still, at least the roulette and MTx work! They made sure of that!
Love watching your defend. Your tactics are always really good
At 23:10, Stevegaming conceded his position before finishing
I saw you at the gt World challenge ant brands. I was right behind you in the stands with the Aston Martin hat
Drone opera intro got me good.
Championship intro on point as usual. 👌
Ive been busy and i have a few entertainment niches and have been checking here and there in my free time. 24 minutes. Damnit lol
The long righthander after malmedy and before "no name" corner is called Bruxelles, not Rivage. 😉
Lmao drone insurance, I'm using that. Any time an insurance sales person calls me up I'll just be demanding drone insurance until they hang up
Great to see the FIA Intros again.
Hello everyone. Just wondering if should get GT7 now or wait a bit more? Good day and good night for everyone depending where u guys at.
I too am interested, is it still “always on”?
The intro is back!!!! Thanks Steve!
I have to thank GT7 for starting my VR career in iRacing and ACC. I'm in a better place now.
Love watching you videos man. It made me want to post my videos and stream fr twitch onto UA-cam
I found I suffered a lot of spin outs with the American cars such as Mustang, hopefully this fixes that too :D
I can't believe Gran Turismo actually made balancing changes. I'd lost all hope in balance tweaks after playing Forza Horizon and seeing no updates for months or years at a time, which result only in certain cars being banned and no actual fixes.
It would be nice if GT could get the License for the GT3 M4. Or make a concept GT3 M5 that is AWD.
Hope the driving dynamics for RWD are better in this game. Usually they suck. Btw awesome video. Super like 👍
The drone !! 🫡😄😄
I love the hitmarker meme so much. 330.000 kills on mw2. Ahhh the good times.
Thank you for MPH, sincerely. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
The game seems pretty interesting. Would be nice to try it out tbh, too bad there's no pc version. Will just need to wait for the new forza motorsport.
That FIA intro was legendary!
My moist meter immediately went up when i saw that Super GT uploaded
That livery on subaru😍
I just want to say, I apologise for my mate shouting 'Oola 'Oops at you at the weekend haha! Hope you had a awesome time at Brands!
Super GT upload day is always a good day :)
6:23 🤣 RIP IP 🚁
Super was a great race with you next time I will get you
Nice Race, enjoyed to watch it
both GR 3 subarus are really good, i was running similar times with the brz gt300 car
Great race! Well defended in the not-ideal machine. (Did you notice that Evan10 gave up his/her spot right before the finish line to give NissmanR34 the P3?)
Loved the clip with the drone. Hilarious! 🤣 sorry about the drone
I want more long races, I would love if Daily Race C was consistently 30 mins-1hr. I would like FiA to be 2 hours lol.
Im a mad man
It always rains at Spa, why i do not know.
Haven't played GT7 for a while, just bought a wheel (Logitech G29 ) so i need to get it set up correctly as i've never raced with a wheel before.
so happy that they fixed it for you.....
Nice drive bro !