Why You Should NOT Join The Nightingales
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- The Nightingales might seem pretty cool, especially if you like the Thieves Guild in Skyrim. But there are some good reasons why you shouldn't join this organisation. Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Daedric Prince Nocturnal lore.
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“akatosh said it’s my turn with the dragonborn’s soul”
The Dragon God of Timeshares
Every deadra and adra are just children and takjng turns with the would while akatosh is the father. Epic idea
I laughed way too much at this
Mehrunes dagon comes in: No it's my turn!
Arkay: *plays with the dead* hm?
Nocturnal: Your soul is mine!
Dragonborn: get in line...
Exactly
Akatosh: I made him so I'm first in line
As a dragon born, I say fuck nocturnal and fuck akotash. I'm going to dibella's plain of fuckery.
@ (unfortunately) you're wrong. Dibella's plain is called lover's lab, according to mxr. He says they're a lot of sloots there.
I got a couple souls to spare...
Well when I die there's gonna be one hell of a rivalry for my soul lol technically sold my soul to almost all of them
You know there's a theory that since you have the soul of a dragon in Skyrim at least when you die you will return to akatosh so basically no one gets your soul and some variations state that you basically it to choose where afterlife you go to because you are part of the original god of the universe
PUG King ok then I'm going with either sanguine or funny mad god at least I won't get bored
Shagrath hircine's hunting ground or sovngarde help maybe we'll be able to visit them all
@@pugking1233 I follow this theory. So I sell my soul to anyone anywhere. Knowing upon my death I'll return to Akatosh.
PUG King *gasp* we could be afterlife planeswalkers! :D
I like to imagine the dragonborn flipping of each and every one of the daedric princes as they literally ascend to the role of tenth divine at death.
lmao
Everyone still treats the dragonborn like a common thug even after killing alduin and saving the world. If becoming divine is a matter of worship then yeah not gonna hold my breath.
Yep, everytime I walk away with a Daedric Artifact while they're still spouting off about me being their servant: "How bout NO?!? Ya crazy Daedric bastard". This thing is just gonna whined up as a decoration in my house anyway.
@@MrDMIDOV ur acting like this is a thing u can do irl 😂
@@SlayerRunefrost exactly like this thing is gonna go on a wall somewhere bruh
When I die my soul doesn’t go anywhere except to my last save.
😂
So true 😂
😂
Right?
@NurturingTalents there is no perma death dickhead
When my Dragonborn dies, I'm gonna declare a Battle Royale between the Daedra. Last one standing gets to see Akatosh claiming the soul.
They don’t win the soul they just win seeing the soul being taken from them 😂
No, Sheo, the cheese god will claim you.
@@BL4NK.F4C3 And thy holy lord of cheese spaketh saying "back off bitches this ones mine"
Alex Ryder 😂😂😂😂
It’s gonna be a full out war between them when the Dragonborn dies 😂
Dragonborn: *exists*
All deadra lords and princes: It's free real estate.
Daedra lords...
Daedric Princes...
omg that was so lame!!! >:[
The1stassassin 42
Akatosh: *No U*
More like:
Deadric princes: *exist*
Dragonborn: *it's free real estate*
To be fair a having Dragonborn as your follower would be a powerful weapon
Fun fact! That whole "Once you die, you'll be sent to [Insert Daedric Plaine here]" thing only applies to anyone who ISN'T Dragonborn. But, because you are Dragonborn, you are Akatosh's Avatar. Meaning, no matter who you make deals with, Akatosh will override all of that, and you will go to Soverngard.
Would if you were created by the hist?
@@michaelwright8896 Argonians worship Sithis and believe in reincarnation. Good question.
I imagine only Nords would actually go to Sovngarde (if they wanted to). Along that same line, the Dragonborn could either choose, or would likely return to Akatosh.
Sovngarde isn't Akatosh's realm, but Shor's (aka Lorkhan), and it's often described as "the nordic afterlife"
@@DeltaDaspleto Like all other Dragons we would go straight to Akatosh, as all dragons are a part of Akatosh's soul.
How would you die? You absorbed the souls of Alduin, Parthurnax, and every other dragon before meeting Mirrak who could shout apart entire peninsulas with one shout. Then you beat Mirrak and absorb his power as well. You are middle to high god-tier power by the end.
“Return the skeleton key”
Ok...might be awhile tho
"After all... (whispers) why shouldn't I keep it?"
@@ashtonpeterson4618 bro that comment is so underrated
@@chacepassmore6474 I saw it in a meme. Thanks
@@ashtonpeterson4618 Bilbo Baggins 😂😂
If you want to rebuild the thieves guild going and get merchants you probably have to return the key
Nocturnal: "Your soul will be mine!"
Dovahkiin: *laughs in werewolf*
*laughs in console commands*
*Laughs in Vampire-Werewolf hybrid mod*
Laugh from shor's throne.
@@RogerCombo no mod needed if you contract both at the same time.
@@Treegonaut facts
That moment when you just sold your soul to the daedric prince of theives, but you already sold it to the daedric prince of the hunt about a week prior, so your afterlife is kinda booked...
Well, she is the Daedric Prince of thieves, so I doubt your soul already being owned will be a problem.
@@PunkZombie1300
Tries to steal from Akatosh, gets evaporated from the cosmos.
@@420mralucard
Actually, no. Akatosh is weak
@@BranBal not really
plus the fact that the dragonborn has a guarantee to go the sovengarde...
Actually, being the Dragonborn, Akatosh is the one to get first dibs on your soul. So, technically, yes, you would go to Sovengard, with the ability to go to other places, such as the Void, the realms of Oblivion, and the Mortal realm as a spectral being. You know, because the Dragonborn is actually an Incarnation of Akatosh.
Actually he's a reincarnation of Tiber Septim, which is the incarnate of Lorkhan, which is the collective of Sithis/Shor/Akatosh which are all one person, so in other words, yes. You're technically correct.
@@FunSkipping Oh so Dragonborn is Vishnu , got it.
@@normlord6357 Dragonborn: I am become death, destroyer of worlds.
or they fight over you like children
@@sensacionsombria5125 Warm sands. Mmm.
The next video: "Do not do any quests"
Real shit🤣🤣🤣
"Do not leave Helgen"
"Why You Should NOT Cross The Border"
“Why you should NOT walk right into that imperial ambush, just like us, and that thief over there”
Why you should NOT finally awoken
Nocturnal: Your soul belongs to me when you're a nightingale.
Sithis: The listener belongs to me.
Hercine: No, he's a werewolf, he belons to me.
Molag Bal: Up until he became a vampire.
Lorkan: Guys, guys, as the Dragonborn his soul is to go to Soverngard.
Sheogorath: CHEESE!
I mean, sithis is on a whole different level. He is not a daedra, *he is the motherfucking void*
@@reyxus9454 he still claims ownership over your soul though
@@mrlandshark5559 yeah, what i meant is that he is more powerful than any daedra or divine, thus you are going to the void
@@reyxus9454 At least until the dragonborn says fus ro dah and the void collapses in on itself.
@@reyxus9454 No, you are a piece of akatosh. Which means akatosh claims your soul.
This is practically that one spongebob episode where the Dutchman discovers that Mr Krabs’ soul is owed by other spirits too
Yeah sorry nocternul I can only spare 1/5 of my afterlife, hircine, azura, molag bal and akintosh are owed my soul
Even SpongeBob had a contract because krabs came up late on his pay lmao
@@witchhunter6755 you forgot hermaus mora and like 5 other deadra
@@swain4559 I gave them, uhh
Other.... payments
@@witchhunter6755 im pretty sure Akatosh called dibs on your soul, so you basically scammed all the other daedras
Dragonborn: finally, truly dies after years of epic adventures
Daedra: finally, this amazing soul is MINE
*all of them start fighting over it*
Dragonborn to Akatosh: “Will you tell them or should I do it?”
Akatosh: “Nah. Let’s just watch. This is getting good.” *Hands you a bowl of popcorn* “Want some?”
@@crimsonmaelstrom573 ahahaha! good one sir!
Become the greatest thief in Tamriel and steal your soul back from Nocturnal.
Nice! :)
I have sneak 100 a few days ago. Sure thing
That's some Constantine bull****
Cha cha real smooth
I feel like Nocturnal would applaud you if you somehow managed to do that
**Watches this while literally joining the nightingales**
Eden Adams Honestly, same
Same. LOL
And same as well. 😅
Same
Me too
My biggest annoyance is being told we need nocturnals power to have a chance against Mercer and then she refuses to actually give us any power until after we beat Mercer meaning we sold our soul for basically nothing.
Nocturnal be like: Stoinks
It wasn't about having her power, it was about having her favor. You could probably argue that without Nocturnal on your side, you wouldn't have been able to make it to Mercer, because technically, it was luck that you're able to make it to him in time. There just happened to be another path to him after he tried blocking it off, and by the time you get to him, he's already almost made off with both eyes of the Falmer. If Nocturnal wasn't a factor, things might not have worked out the way they did.
I think it was the armor
i think it's implied in the story? Not necessarily she gives you boosts
@@deadshotruby6667 There's no way of knowing that, though it is possible. As far as I can tell though, the daedra really can't do a whole lot in the mortal world outside of their designated shrines.
Dragonborn: dies
Daedras in a line: So, who´s gona be the one to take him?
Dragonborn: pulls a Talos move
Daedras: Wait! You werent supposed to do that!
Then boom wins and
Goes to join the other Dragonborn's in Sovngarde 😂
@@barcabocalda2583 i don't think you get what a talos move is bruh
@@spiceyicey I don't think you understand what the sarcastic move is 🤣
@@barcabocalda2583 no, it appears i don't. all i saw with your comment was you thinking that the dragonborn would fight the daedra to go to sovengarde when they've already lost the privilege of that by becoming a god
It appears that the Dragonborns soul as a dragon soul goes to Akatosh. He has the oldest dibs on the soul and yeah, try to convince the most powerful Divine that the Hero's soul should be yours just becuase you were stupid enough to let a cleptomaic timelord telekinesis your artifact...
The amount of daedric schmucks who think they own my soul, it’s hilarious.
You sound very much like one of the Daedric Princes here :D
Lol they really think i mean bro i have 6 daedric artifacts
My soul goes to my last save
Canonically, Hermaeus Mora owns the Dragonborn's soul, because he's the only one who owns the Dragonborn *before* they die. Just like you saw with Miraak.
@@alumilynn Why you gotta steal comments tho, be more original lol
Me: Dies
Daedric princes: mMmMm.. SoUl
Me: Loads save
Them: :o
K
Daedric princes: He is smarter than we expected '0'
Me: gets caught pickpocketing
Citizens: you filthy pickpocket!!
Me: loads save
Them: :o
@@ebul176 The restoration trainer at the College of Winterhold doesn't trust me anymore, even after loading up again after I failed once and she had send some tugs to me to teach me a lesson. (They got killed by the other npc's from the College and I was literally watching them get killed)
So guess they do find out there pockets are empty, even though you just paid them some money for training you.
Lol, actually that is totally normal. Some characters will send thugs even if you aren't caught stealing, you just have to deal with them.
Dragonborn: So... that’s it? I get your artifact and I’m free to go?
Sheogorath: Yup, thanks for helping me finish my vacation.
Dragonborn: You don’t want my soul or undying loyalty or anything? Nothing at all?
Sheogorath: Hmmm, not really! Got any brain pie?
CHEEESE!!
And that among many other reasons is why sheogorath is my favorite daedric prince.
Hermaeus Mora also doesn't care about your soul or any other for that matter, since he will learn everything about you the moment you die as he's the God of knowledge.
Merida simply asks for you to spread some light in to the world and get rid of any undead as she hates them.
Mehrunes Dagon doesn't ask for your soul, only for you to use his dagger and cause mayhem with it. (so basically, have fun using it to kill as many as you can with it)
Boethiah simply wants you to kill as many people as possible, especially her old champion who holds the champions armor and let's you keep it if you succeed until a new champion comes along.
I think, but I'm not sure that Mehrunes Dagon and Boethiah are both children of Sithis and the Night Mother. You start serving Sithis the moment you join the Dark Brotherhood, the souls of the kills you make will be send to the void to serve Sithis. Sithis doesn't need to demand your soul, as he's basically the God of Death and can decide if a soul is going to serve him or be send elsewhere like Sovngaurd.
Only a few God's (Deadric Princes) say and ask for your soul in return, even though they already know they won't be able to claim yours.
@@Jerkfaceman He does not really have that much of a competition thow
Sanguine, too. Mans just want a long, fun drink sesh
Nocturnal: “When you finish your servitude to me, you will enter my realm.”
Dragonborn: *_yawns_* “Let’s see, I’ve been to the Soul Cairn by temporarily separating my soul from my body, I’ve been put inside of an alternate dimension by a goddess to off someone, I’ve been to Apocrypha and played some weird fuckin’ mind game with Edgar Alan Poe’s version of Squidward, I’ve been to Sovngarde and defeated a time transcending legendary dragon, I’ve warped back in time using an Elder Scroll … I chilled with Sheogorath for a bit - uh, what else, I’ve been to Labyrinthian… I chilled up on a cloud with Meridia.
You name it I’ve been there and made it back in one piece and stronger than I was before baby, what’s another plain of Oblivion or completely fucked up version of reality? Bring it on! By the end of it I’ll probably have YOUR job and be better at it.”
This wouldn’t surprise me at all
@Redwood oak yeah I've got an amulet that gives me about 900 million health with 900 million% health regen so I doubt a Daedric god could kill me.
@@demogod4955
Literally you’re fuckin’ Ban from Seven Deadly Sins 😂
If the Dragonborn can go to the Soul Cairn, basically a version of hell, and come back with two and a half men, what could you loot from other planes of oblivion?
"I’ve been put inside of an alternate dimension by a goddess to off someone" Which quest is this one? It doesn't sound familiar
Dragonborn: *is on 1 HP*
Nocturnal: Oh boy, time to get a new guardian for the Twilight Sepulcher
Dragonborn: *laughs in 512 000 raw potatoes*
haha cheese let's go
When you level up and pick stamina how much does it increase your carrying capacity?
@@emilebichelberger7590 5 i think or 10 i forgor 💀
@@farrelasw7428 I just checked in game, it’s 5. Bet I loaded my last save
Why not potato soup? Is easy to make.
The Dragonborn can sell their soul to any deity but in the end they pick where their soul goes. Dragon born isn’t a normal mortal
I really hope that's true, because Moonshadow all the way. Praise Azura!
Benjamin Harmon nah her star sucks really unless it’s the black star
@@dewannabe8845 Maybe my character cares more about religion than whatever little goodies he can get out of it?
@@benjaminharmon6541
Then your character is a fool
@@benjaminharmon6541 i am with you bro Azura is the Best i like to rp that i am paladine on mission to destroy all the undead i get Dawbreaker And roam all skyrim hunting them
Every single daedric prince: the dragonborn is my tool and i have his soul
Sheogorath: CHEEEEEESE!
And the cheese? TO DIE FOR.
To be COMPELTELY fair.
The sheogorath in skyrim was your player character in oblivion. So what the hell do they need a super overpowered rpg character for? They are one.
opa eae meu bom
Wabbajack Wabbajack Wabbajack!
Meridia: Thanks for your business dragonborn. Have a shiny sword. See ya.
Entering the nightingale hall to collect the nightingale armor with my carry weight nearly over the limit was one of the most extreme experiences I've ever had.
You’d think it would have a carry weight enchantment somewhere in there considering.. yknow we’re thieves and all that
Near the end I stopped collecting as much garbage loot and it was so much more less annoying than being constantly overencumbered after going through a dungeon haha
@@akiraigarashi2874 yeah the best feeling is when you can be picky with loot and what you actually need
FACTS and it was worse bc I'm a Heavy armor user
Why can you never find something to throw away 😂
Of course you shouldn't join the nightingales, you'd be selling your soul like a total chump
Joke's on Nocturnal. The Dovahkin's soul is that of a dragon and all dragon souls belong to Akatosh.
@@tmage23 jokes on every daedric prince then
@@thepope2412 Yup. That's why I never had a problem RP wise with all the daedric prince deals
@@tmage23 Well Durneviir is pretty permanently suck in the Soul Cairn...
Naru that’s cuz he was a bitch and couldn’t kill a single fucking vampire
“To become a nightingale, you must promise to enter nocturnal”
This is where the fun begins
Indeed Master Shifus
honestly nocturnal is lowkey hot ngl
@@ilovetweek000 a daedric PRINCE. nocturnal is canon a dude
@@kiachaelchild Prince is just a title. The Daedra don't have genders, they can take a male or female form (or, in Mephala's case, both at once) depending on their preference/how they're feeling at the time.
@@PunkZombie1300 it was just a joke 😭
Real quick, when I was younger, I didn't kill any of the ghosts in the hall of twilight and I was never spotted. I was into roleplay even as a kid and I remember thinking to myself, "A real Nightingale doesn't get caught." It took a lot of reloads but it was an amazing feeling having that triumph of stealth over combat.
Respect is earned and you didn’t earn respect… you earned a 👑. Snake would be proud!!!
Damn I didn’t even consider that
TIME FOR A REPLAY
That's how I do the thieves guild quest line. I do 100% stealth no kills. I chug invisibility potions the whole time XD
I think it's meant to be done this way my dude, those ghosts are pretty rough for a mere thief
a proper thief
The skeleton key not only opens physical doors but also metaphorical ones too, you can open the door of any plain of existence no place can hold you.
As well as the doors of your potential.
When the Dragonborn dies:
Nocturnal: AAH he is finally dead. Now your soul is mine!
Dragonborn: Uh yes but actually no. *respawns*
Uhh Actually no, the guys at nord heaven gonna take me out for bowling cuz i saved the world from the evil dragon and all.... sorry?
Yes but actually no. Hircine rolls in
@@keiyuuta9648 He wouldn't respawn, but no one (including Nocturnal) can own him because he's Dragonborn.
@@googlewolly i mean imma let peoole own me 😳
I like to joke that the daedric princes and the divines are going to enter a serious custody battle over the dragonborn after they die. It's hilarious to think about Hircine, Nocturnal, and the others arguing who gets the Dragonborn then the divines pop in like actually this one is ours. solved a civil war and started a war amongst the deadra and divines.
Next video: why you should go first to the block at Helgen.
Why?
@@drag0nchampi0n so we can avoid all the havoc skyrim faces lol
@@samuelgilbert1764 but you can become a god king level badass and solve Skyrim's problems
Very far from god level bad ass a deadra would still have no issue killing the dragonborn
Cori Wimmer the definition of a god can’t be tocuhed
Karliah: “We can only defeat Mercer by becoming Nightingales.”
Actually Karliah: “I’m making you guys sell your souls because I want to earn Nocturnals favor for failing her. Brynjolfs fucked but hey, you get to at least go to Akatosh?”
i see the guild (besides Mercer) as family in a way, i help them when they need help.
If she thinks she can actually have my soul, she is sorely mistaken. When she asks me to join her to honor the agreement I would just say "no". I will then fight and defeat her. And go do what the fuck my op charicter wants. Maybe posess a mortal to continue living.
Well in theory we serve Akatosh, but as for our eternal afterlife it is strongly hinted that Hermaeus Mora wins ownership.
@@thomasallen9974 let the divines and the other deadric princes team up on that tentacley bitch
@@supercomputer0448 cringe
You can't complete the questline without becoming a Nightingale. Might have been cool to be able to say, "I'm not taking the oath, I'll fight Mercer as I am." Or a choice to join Mercer and keep the lie that Karliah is the enemy going. But unfortunately, if you want to complete the questline you need to become a nightingale.
Found a mod for that. Agent of Mara sort of deal. Mostly a lot of flavour text but good for good/divines aligned rp.
Bethesda really should have included that option or made being a nightingale be more useful than how it currently is
Yeah honestly I’m just gonna stop before I do all that and roleplay that my character was too cool for all that shit
That is a really good idea and I wondered the same regarding multiple questlines. Having more choice regarding allegiances or at least presenting some of the factions with more moral ambiguity would have been great.
Karliah: You must offer your soul to Nocturnal to become a Nightengale.
Me: Woah there, I didn't agree to sell my soul to the daedra-
Karliah: Here's some badass armor.
Me: ALL HAIL OUR LADY NOCTURNAL!
As i keep saying while playing this game: the dragonborn is a very religious man because he has many religions.
@Rijal Jose r/whoosh
It’d be easy to be religious Tamriel, so much proof
@@someguy2594 Yeah, that Jewish guy who was killed and then showed up a few days later is certainly not a proof. Or the wilingness of his direct followers to die for their faith in him even if just letting go would be so much easier and safer.
the dragonborn is its own religion
@@ХристоМартунковграфЛозенски i dont see that jewish Guy giving me any cool sword or weapon of mass destruction against my foes for swearing allegiance to his teachings, so there is that.
Maybe from a lore point of view, but there’s no reason not to do this in game.. that armour and sword too good not to pass up
Can't you just take the armour and sword without joining or signing any souls away?
IMO the armor you get from becoming the thieves guild leader is better than Nocturnal, especially with the amulet
Yeah I was wondering... seemed like a “don’t do this b/c there are in-game consequences” kind of thing, but looks like it’s actually just philosophical
I honestly think the nightingale armour is better in looks then something like the daedric armour or ebony but ebony is on par with nightingale in terms of looks
Thanks for your comment so I can move on and not get lore baited
When Nightingales fufil their bargain with Nocturnal, they become one with the shadows, becoming sort of guardian spirits for fellow thieves. It might not be as glamorous as drinking in sovngarde, but it is a more fitting afterlife for a thief.
def beats coldharbor lmao
@@purpleguy5226 besides maybe mephala and namira, ANYTHING beats cold harbor
Still boring as heck tho
@@akiraigarashi2874but thats the thing. thats your opinion. what can be better for a thief than helping steal more stuff?
@@innocence3156 I don't think most thieves would be that type of selfless person. If they were, they wouldn't be stealing from everyone in the first place
Nocturnal: sees Mercer steal her key. "Those thieves guild are going to pay, except Mercer."
If I was able to destroy dark brotherhood, I'd be grateful if there's a dlc to eradicate *thieves guild, nightingale, black briars, silver hands, blades (namely delphine & esbern), rolf stone fist, angenor once honored and lastly the thalmor*
Nocturnal didn't really choose to punish the Guild, she could no longer assist them at all without it holding the portal open. She was just as trapped in Oblivion as we were trapped in Helgen at the start.
Is that a blackadder profile picture i see
My thought was exactly. If he betrayed her, why did he still get what he wanted (until the Dragonborn intervened)?
@@Barreloffish The Skeleton Key unlocked every door. More specifically, the door to Nocturnal's realm.
Taking the key prevented her from having much influence.
It wasn't punishing the guild so much as unable to assist them in any way
One of my biggest issues with the thieves guild quest is the fact that you can't refuse to join the nightingales. Karliahs whole reasoning for that is that we need the edge to fight Mercer, even though I'm the Dragonborn, who single handedly killed Alduin and countless dragons, the arch mage of winterhold, the one who ended the Civil War and killed Ulfric/Tullius, and a vampire lord who defeated Lord Harkon. But no, *only* by becoming a nightingale can I possible hope to defeat one man in a three on one fight.
It's a one-on-one fight, though. Mercer uses his "subterfuge" ability on Brynjolf, and Karliah has to subdue him while you fall off the ledge, and 1v1 Mercer. I mean, it's still an easy fight, but to call it 3v1 is kind of wrong. No offense.
Mathew C. It was a 3v1 fight when I summoned two Dremora lords.
@@Fyrebrand18 - well, that's how you do it.
@@jacrispy3275 You're right, but either way I would like a choice in the matter. For a so called "rpg", Skyrim has very little in the way of player choice during quests.
@@thenobletaco4232 - of course. I wish they would have just kept anything "Daedric" away from the Thieves Guild, it killed the thief vibe, for me at least.
Pretty sure with my affiliation with a multitude of Aedra and Daedra, my death will cause a Dragon Break, cloning my soul many times so I go to each afterlife. Even Sovngarde despite maining an Argonian.
argonians ftw
same here, I do fisticuffs as a cat person, who has done all of the quest in Skyrim, not sure where she would go.
I really wonder though, is if ever described in the games what happens if a person who has chosen to serve multiple daedric princes dies? Like would the daedra lords fight over your soul (so that the stronger prince will tend to get more souls)? Or would they make a deal with each other like "hey I get this Dragonborn, you get the next Champion of Cyrodiil" or something like that?
Or does the person's soul really get sort of split/shattered to pieces so everyone gets a part?
@@1ruisu that is the corrwct answer amd nobody can prove you wrong
I like to think when the DragonBorn dies then the DragonBorn has a choice to rest and work with every God you choose to work with.
Quick question, wasn't there a more powerful deity that will 100% claim the dragonborn's soul, regardless of any daedric influence?
Akatosh,he may or may not, for all we know he will let you continue in a reincarnating cycle, maybe reincarnate one or a few times
either way, when he does it only elder scroll 6 can tell as you hold the ultimate freedom while the game is still played, unless he has already but everytime you start the game up again he send you back
Akatosh has first dibs always since you have a dragon soul. If he doesn't claim you then its your pick if you want to go to him, your races heaven, or with a deadra or adrea you serve. No one else has the power to lay a hard claim on a dragon's soul.
@@420mralucard ^this.
@@420mralucard Very true, as a child of Akatosh, you have a soul created by him, my personal theory being that Akatosh is the one who caused the DB to be born making him our father. If you don’t wish to go back to him to either be incarnated as a dragon or potentially live as part of his force, you definitely get your choice.
@@420mralucard I know i'm reviving a dead thread but when you meet tsun and tell him your a nightingale he tells you "your heart(or soul) is already bound to your dark mistress"
Your soul will always go to Akatosh, if you defeat Miraak, a Dragonborn, his soul will float up indicating that all Dragonborns go to Akatosh. Considering how powerful Akatosh is, we can assume there is a hierarchy with Akatosh, The Chief Deity of the Divines, at the top. If this weren't true then it would be chaos among the Daedric Princes as to which plane of oblivion you go to. Having Akatosh, creator of Dovah, always take a Dragonborn's soul clears up the confusion. Not even mentioning the fact that the Dragonborn is literally a piece of Akatosh and that they are foolish in thinking that they can take a piece of Akatosh, again Chief Deity of the Divines and keep it in a plane of Oblivion my point is still valid.
Totally agree
IDK man, sithis is far more powerful than akatosh, technically your soul would go to the void since the dragonborn joined the dark brotherhood
@@inaciobarbosa9396 i think akatosh has bigger claim to dragonborn soul even if dragonborn was really into worship of sithis
@@villekuronen6242 The thing is that Sithis created the whole universe. No other deity has power over him.
You join the Brotherhood, you go to the dude.
Inácio Barbosa i destroyed them 😋
I am a toaster.
A toaster is just a death-ray with a smaller power supply.
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@@howdoyoudo5949 Ah, a man of Culture, I see.
Everyone talking about which daedric Lord their soul goes to when they die.
Me: Dying?! *laughs in restoration potion loop*
Me: *laughs in god mode ring*
I like this quest simply for Karliah. Whoever is voice acting her has a great voice. Karliah's voice is all hers and its a joy playing through the quest just to work with her.
Oh yeah, the armor is bitchin' too.
Totally. Her voice is absolutely brill.
I like her voice too but she probably sold us out for forgiveness from Nocturnal lol
How bout whether balgruuf is a genius or an idiot? By not pledging allegiance to one side of the war he ensures he doesn’t anger either side or demonise any of his citizens
@RadTheLad I mean to be fair he was pressurised into going into the empire, and its not like he doesn't like Ulfric its that he knows Ulfric doesn't like him, Balgruuf is a very outspoken Nord who cares more about his people than his beliefs because of this if he had to choose between his people and Ulfric he would choose his people everytime. Because of that rather than Ulfric trying to convince Balgruf against the empire decides to sack his city. I mean he is ignorant of things like Nelkir and so on but he isn't an idiot more likely he is just too emotional a person to be in the position of a leader which to be fair he has done a good job of regardless.
@RadTheLad Exactly but what choice does he have? To bend to the possibility that Ulfric will sack him and put a person in charge that nobody will support or even like, I mean Baalgruuf is one of the most liked leaders in skyrim and considering how much influence whiterun has in the war alone it goes to show that he knows what he is doing, you can always keep talos worship undercover and keep your people safe but you cant do that if you aren't Jaarl he had to take the possibility that Ulfric would not win the war and it would be ultimately worse for his subjects. It was the rational decision to join the empire on all fronts.
@RadTheLad well when you first go into ulfrics castle you can overhear a conversation between him and his housecarl ( I don’t remember his name) and he advises ulfric to shove his sword through balgrufs throat. Much like he did with toryg which in my opinion was murder. So the people around ulfric and the stormcloaks were pretty hostile towards whitetun. General tullius even warns balgruf that it looks like ulfric is garrisoning troops against him. And I think that the empire is the only logical army to side with. So I like to think balgruf is an intellectual who chose wisely but remained neutral only to benefit his people.
Jarl Ballin’ is a genius because he made the Dragonborn his thane. I mean, yea he had to hold a dragon in his Hold for a hot minute, but he ensured the ultimate safety of his people.
@Really Bitch but in the end he accepted the empires help. Therefore he can’t be an idiot according to your logic because he did choose a side.
I remember reading/seeing somewhere that pledging your soul to any daedra didn't matter in the end cause Akatosh will just go "lol zoinks" and take it to his realm upon your death
Miraak is literally bound to a daedric prince
@@MrDMIDOV but miraak isn't dead he was alive all the timr
@@MrDMIDOV Miraak is still alive
Yee and when he does die guess who absorbs his soul? That's right us!
@@MrDMIDOV he was alive
Dragonborn: dies
Daedra: **Black Friday riots**
Aedra: **Panicked screaming**
Then everyone realizes that they're better off leaving the Dragonborn alone
Hey you Clem, I’ve seen your face before
Nocturnal : your soul is mine!
Molag Bal : get to the back of the line!
Merunes : we all have claims on Mr. kiins soul
Nocturnal sees cicero
Nocturnal : you too huh?
Cicero : he was 5 gold short on pay day
Roman Minaster ...
Akatosh: sorry he’s mine
Sithis: Laughs in the background
I get that SpongeBob reference 😂
Clacious vile: funny I don’t need him I have my dog friend with me
In my head cannon the Dragonborn ascends to godhood and the draedra’s go “wait that’s not allowed”
@George Corbul Don't forget about Talos
@George Corbul The Neravine Become something of it's own, and the Champion of Cyrodil become a Daedric Prince sooo
This one would like to point out that the Nedic Woman known as St. Alessia also ascended to godhood when she died. So technically there are in fact, ten divines.
@@ZerekXD wait what? I beat oblivion like once, waaaaay back when it first came out. I don’t remember us turning into a daedric prince
@@DovahkiinKhajiit As i recall correctly, Alessia wasnt a saint nor ascended to godhood, becouse queen Al-Esh made a pantheon itself. When the elfs (and khajiits sadly) were broken by Shezarin Pelinal, she became a queen and made a new faith as 8 divines.
But anyway, this one half agrees that she might enter aurbis/etherius as a free(ascended?) spirit.
And I thought Voldemort had it bad with his soul being split into 8 pieces.....
I believe it's 7
@@kieranpowell2723 it's 8
@@aaa-to3kb Ok, cool.
Dharc Daniel 8 bc there is the one in his own body too
1. His body
2. Harry
3.Nagini
4. The ring
5. Hufflepuff cup
6. Diadem
7. Diary
8. Necklace
7*
Nocturnal: "The Dragonborn's soul is mine."
Akatosh: (burns the contract) "Get back in line."
Because since the Dragonborn soul comes from Akatosh himself, he has the final say.
So, it makes no difference whom your "pact" is to. The highest Divine can overrule that.
Me:
- Joins the Companions & sells soul to hircine
- Joins the vampires (Dawnguard questline) & sells soul to Molag Bal
- Joins the Dark Bortherhood & sells soul to Sithis
- Joins the Nightingales & sells soul to Nocturnal
- Gets the dawnbreaker
- completes azura Star
- did the dawnstar memory quest
- and more
I just sold my soul to everybody 🙂
Kaydia same I should know I have the oblivion walker achievement so yea lots of places ps not bragging
I joined the following:
•Vampires
•Companions
•Dark brotherhood
•stormcloak rebellion
•theives guild
•And The Nightingales
Lmao I sold my soul to too many people 😂
Nah black star ftw
@@randomrandom1949 even to ulfric?
@@javadnps8218 yes
why you should
-cool armor
-achievement
Edit: I know this sounds cringe but this is genuinely the most likes i have ever gotten and I am so so happy that people thought it was funny
Laugh with mods.
Good enough for me
And the bow
im gonna join
And the skeleton key which is like the most important part of WHY you SHOULD become a Nightingale.
I'm pretty sure that would be a mistake on any Daedra princes part. Trapping the Dragonborn in their realm is the equivalent of having Doomguy, with the ability to bend time and space by merely speaking, along with the eternal soul of a dragon with a penchant for dominance. It sounds like a bad time for anyone. Better to just let him go.
Well, Hermeus did it to Miraak and succeed. With time, though.
@@gorilla3dd but miraak was alive
@@epkurnissheoway was. Now do not.
@@gorilla3dd and his soul went to Akatosh as all dead Dovah go to Akatosh as Akatosh's claim takes priority over any others.
@@CyberianFaux except that when you go to savngarde their are multiple dragonborn amongst their halls,so unless they just have less if a soul after,as long as they die in battle they go to savngarde,even as another species,Tsun says he will wait for you to arrive in savngarde after your death.
The best thing about selling my soul to the Daedric Princes, is that they don't get my soul anyway. As a Dragonborn, my soul is part of Akatosh and thus goes to him when I die.
Meaning, I've scammed over a dozen gods and by the time they find out, they can't do shit.
Not only that, but you also get a cool armor while you are alive
@@rolandpatka5479 and countless summer homes, bored in sovengarde? Go patrol shrines for this prince or that prince, bored of that and your an argonian!?! Reincarnate Asa dragonborn again and do it again
Dragonborn serving after he dies:
“Hello Nocturnal ma’am sorry I’m late, just had to serve the other Daedra
Patron of thieves; she would steal your soul out from the others noses
@@Cyberwar101 not gonna lie, the dragonborn will just become the delivery boy again doing side-quest for the daedra fast traveling from one plane to the other
"Hello, lady Nocturnal, sorry I'm late. I was serving my contracts with the other Daedric gods. so uh, yeah here I am"
Nocturnal: "Whatever just get to yo-"
Akitosh: "haha dragonborn go brrrrrrrrrrr"
Me: owes my soul to every daedric prince and a couple Devine's
Also me: becomes a vampire to avoid dieing
Hey dude, I know it’s been three months but... it’s _dying_
Dying
Vampirism comes from Molag Bal, and you can still die and end up in his realm of Coldharbor. Unless you're Dragonborn, then you can pledge yourself to all kinds of aedra and daedra and when you die you end up with Akatosh.
Every daedric prince watching your fight : how the fuck did he not die
@@cheese_handler_dangerous_job I've pledged my soul to whichever Diety lets me go back in time to the nearest quicksave. As it happens, time is Akatosh's thing.
Yeah but nocturnal doesn't actually have any authority over your soul you are the dragonborn it's up to Akatosh what to do with you
It's up to you to decide where your soul goes. That's if you die , you shouldn't.
If u with the db sithis get u he is stronger than akatosh or any daedra or aedra
@@Degenerado112 Lol in his dreams maybe he's more powerful that Akatosh
@@libertyprime3827 im sure he is
@@libertyprime3827 all deadras were born from Sithis. In fact apart from godhead deities like Talos or Vivec, Sithis and Anui El should be the strongest.
counterpoint: you're dragon born. you make pledges to literally every deity in tamriel. the true end won't come from alduiin, but from your death as every god youve pledged to begin a war the likes of which nirn has never seen.
though the skeleton key loses all its thunder because of the lockpicking skill tree makes your lockpicks unbreakable anyway.
These alliegences apply to anyone EXCEPT a drgaon. and pledges or promises they made to any deadrea or anyone become instantly void because akatosh gets claim over your soul after your death from the moment your born since you're basically his creation anyway. Then im not sure on this next bit but im pretty sure he can choose not to take your soul if he doesnt want but even then its still the dragonbrons choice to serve who they see fit in the afterlife.
But Nocturnal also says “the contract is fulfilled” So unlike most Nightingales you dont owe anything after you return the key. I would argue it infront of Julianos!
That’s also what I thought
Nice hat
Mercer's Contract is fulfilled.
Sadly julianos has no power over nocturnal
Nice hat!
but the Dragonborn’s soul belongs to Akatosh before the Dragonborn is even born so technically Akatosh has first dibs on the Dragonborn’s soul
what is akatosh
Zane Omuoreh Akatosh is a deity chief of the divines in the elder scrolls series He’s the dragon god of time and is believed to have created the dragons and the Dragonborn
@Rijal Jose
Akatosh is believed to be Anui-El as well, so he still has the bigger claim to your soul since you are part of the creator of all beings.
Is akatosh a cool deity or is he just another evil one I can't remember
@@Pikuninpizza Akatash also known as Auriel is the dragon god of time, he's the good guy "justice and righteous rule" and all that.
Brynjolf seeing this and realizing where he goes when he dies: *sad Brynjolf noises*
The thing that upsets me the most is being told that we need the power of a nightingale to fight a nightingale but during the process of being made into one Nocturnal says "I make your initiates nightingale and restore your status to the same" which means that Nocturnal had taken away Karliah's and Mercer's nightingale powers. If that's the case then the whole points of selling your eternal soul to gain power equal to Mercer's is entirely pointless. Its only made worse when we make the deal but Nocturnal says we gotta beat Mercer first before we get anything. Talk about backstabbing. Karliah is literally lying through her teeth and is just using you and Brynjolf as a sacrifice to regain her power from Nocturnal. Karliah literally even admits it during her dialogue with Nocturnal boldy right in front of you.
Another thing that bugged me was Karliah telling us that we're the first uninitiated people to step foot in the sanctuary in over a century but the quest description says that you're fixing the trinity that was "disrupted over 25 years ago" so if nobody has gone in for over a 100 years how did Gallus, Karliah and Mercer become Nightingales? Are they over 100 years old and being a nightingale also means you don't die from old age or was that just an oversight? Its strange to have Karliah say something like that when the entire questline has been about rebuilding the guild after the last master died a little over 25 to 30 years ago. Taken alone it seems innocent enough but when you think about how Karliah is being weirdly mysterious about the whole thing, even after the secret of Gallus' murder and everything had come to light, it feels more like a manipulative comment on her part to try and bait the Dragonborn and Brynjolf into thinking they're special. My weird feelings of mistrust aren't made any easier by Brynjolf's constant "I think we should trust the lass" idle dialogue.
And with it happening 25 years ago, at most doesnt that makes most of the thieves 40+ years old? So we have a guild of middle age men and women who cant get their shit together.
Karliah being constantly mysterious about all of it made me want to poison her a few times and I never trusted her. She shot us cause we was in the way and "saved" us? How. So mercer was going to kill us and then try to fight her froma distance by himself? It makes more sense to have us fight her with him and we never find out the truth. Its so confusing sometimes
Well, Karliah and Gallus are Dunmer so yeah, they could have been over 100.
@Anime Chill Steps I just don't like poor writing, their race is irrelevant.
@@SlayerRunefrost But Mercer wasn't a Mer he was just a normal guy. My point still stands.
Well that first one is obvious. Nocturnal took away Karliah's powers but not Mercer's, because...reasons.
The Dragonborn has done so much, and pledged their soul to nearly every Daedric Prince.
But honestly, the Dragonborn would most likely spend their eternal afterlife with Sheogorath. Only guy that didn't ask for a soul or eternal servitude. Besides, who else can to do the fishstick? It's a very delicate state of mind!
Yes
Sheograth is my man.
Sheogorath and sanguine.....they're both chill dudes.
@@safwanshuhaib9968
Meridia too will always be memorable
And remember, clouds don't smell bad, they taste of butter and tears.
Maybe “Why you shouldn’t join the Dawnguard”
-Pretty much all the Vampires of Castle Volkihar don’t actually agree with Harkon, yet at the end of the Dawnguard quest you massacre them.
-The Dawnguard doesn’t actually help thwart the vampire attacks that happen in the cities.
-Many of them refuse to even talk to you if you have become a Vampire at any point during the Dawnguard questline.
-They don’t try to cure or help non-evil Vampires who happen to contract the disease.
@Buttermilk crispy chicken Vampire hunters negate the great chance -if ever edgy and unoriginal- of having a vampire hunting vampires. Unimaginative lot, that of Isran.
The only good vampire is the really dead vampire
All of this is pointless, Dragonborn has pledged his soul to so many dieties that he can do what he wants and most likely choose where to go.
Especially since Akatosh gets first dibs. Hell he can already visit Sovngarde whenever he wants so, when he "dies" he could just chill there.
Idk man.... the way i play my character, i don't think Akatosh would want me around....
@@Moneysreal eh, the way i play my character i can care less about akatosh lol
I'm pretty sure there's a theory where you are actually talos, and talos is actually one if the two first big boy gods.
@@jjohnson01 There's also the theory about Shor
The Skeleton Key can also unlock things that are not physical, such as potential. It could also, theoretically, reopen an Oblivion Gates. It can unlock ANYTHING that is "locked". Not gonna lie, seems like the strongest Daedric Artifact. (It would have been funny if it allowed the user to unlock every perks of every tree ^^ As it should, from my understanding, have)
But, but,but the armor is so nice :(
Repeat after me
Help Nightingale armor
Player. Additem(insert Nightingale gear id here)
True, that armour is cool
That armor looks like poop.
It looks good on a lot of races but it really tripped me up when I put it on and my Argonian’s face was gone...
Omfg it’s a fucking game geez
I'm fairly sure the theory about Miraak's soul going up is it Escaping from Mora's Realm. I'm thinking Akatosh is getting that SOUL
@Rijal Jose I think Talos did something else bc he became a God
I mean that's a fair Argument but I think the State of Chim that Talos Achieved is stronger than the Aedra and Deadra, just with really weird limitations
You absorb his soul though. Only Alduin gets absorbed by Akatosh.
The best part of having a dragons soul, you arent bound by any daedric contracts relating to your soul. Even as a vampire I'd be able to avoid molag bals realm and head to whatever sweet afterlife I'd like.
Don't know where you got that idea. There's literally a dragonborn bound to hermaeus mora because of the pact he made.
@@MrDMIDOV miraak never died idiot, he is stuck in apocrypha
@@MrDMIDOV miraak retreated there to avoid vahlok killing him, dragonborn don't have exclusively mortal souls therefore you can't completely claim one's soul, they either go back to akatosh or, if in miraak's case, absorbed by another dragonborn
@@submissionsniperfan if you say to Tsun you're of Nightingale, he outright tell you you're bound to the dark mistress. So I'm calling bs on that idea.
@@alexanderthered5603 no he is right at the end of the game Shor is not there as he is dragonborn (with no recollection that he is Shor) and on top of that your the only one that is able to sit on his throne and on top of that u are part dragon you are already blessed with akatosh and you carry a part of his soul.
The skeleton key is after some time again quite useless- when you reached the unbreakable lockpick skill.
Haha jokes on Nocturnal, i had my fingers crossed when i promised my soul.
Dragonborn can just ignore the Daedric princes’ “YOUR SOUL IS MINE” deals since his/her soul basically belongs to Akatosh anyway.
You know all this talk about the dragonbornes soul is kinda funny with me, like you have all the daedric princes and gods taking turns with the Dragonborne....
Molag Bal: "SHEOGORATH, WHERE IS THE DRAGONBORNE, YOU HAD THEM LAST!"
Sheo: "I-I dont know I'm afraid, I must've misplaced them.....hmmm let's see...oh, have you looked in your boots by any chance?"
Sanguine: "Hmmm, now that you mention it...I did have a couple drinks with them the other night....."
Nocturnal: "That explains where my Dress went yesterday...."
I'd love to see all the Daedra in the same room having dinner
@@ivans.5959 azura: so Molag Bal, how was work today?
Molag Bal: oh you know, it was work. Dominating mortals and fucking bitches to turn them into vampires is pretty tiring.
Nocturnal: mehrunes, could you pass the salt?
Dagon: sure here. *Passes the salt*
Meridia: hey has anyone seen peryite? He's late to dinner again.
Mephala: yeah he's working late again unfortunately.
Namira: he always works so hard. We should throw him a little party.
Sheogorath: Wonderful! Time for a celebration! Cheese for everyone! Wait, scratch that. Cheese for no one. That can be just as much of a celebration of you don't like cheese.
@@superdarklink Then the Dragonborn shows up saying gimme your loot
@@Prelaw172 nah... More like jump around the table and do random shouts in every direction 😂.
I wish the skeleton key would've actually let you do things like open dragon claw doors without the claws and give you a hard stat boost to every skill while it's in your inventory. Would've actually made it an interesting choice instead of being completely nullified by a perk in the lockpicking tree that does the exact same thing.
My first time playing the quest 10 years ago:
“Wait. I have to give it back and have serve eternally? Okay I’ll just keep it. 🤷♂️”
Yup. I kept it as well.
I wanted to give it back but I realized how op it was and when I eventually did try to take it back I got absolutely bodied by the enemies in the sepelchur
@@OrigamiAhsoka it works as an unbreakable lockpick which you can get through the lockpicking skill tree. So it's not as OP as you think it is
@@obi-wankenobi5766 well early game for a while I mean
It took a long time to get that far in lockpicking for me
@@obi-wankenobi5766 The problem is I’m only 33 lock picking, so it’ll be very useful until then.
See for me personally I wish Bethesda would stop doing these ultimatum quest lines where you HAVE to do X in order to obtain Y. They need to make the game more personalized where you can find ways around things. Like for example the blades and paarthunax, you shouldn't be forced to kill him just to keep up the organization, or you shouldn't be forced to become a werewolf just to continue the companion's quest line.
Bethesda needs to alter this in ES6 where it would focus more on solving problems based on your own solutions rather than "yeah you have to do this or you'll never ever finish this quest line, sorry pal." It really bothers me that this seems to be the formula they go with for a supposedly RP friendly world. At least the dark brotherhood let's you just murder the guild as an alternative to supporting them, we need more stuff like that, but more creative.
Speaking of just murdering the guilds, they should also add a power hungry alternative where you can choose to defy the daedra and syphon their powers rather than only getting daedric powers / artifacts by serving. I would like the ability to slay an actual daedric prince and take his place in my own realm of oblivion, or at least smaller with the ability to take over an entire hold as the new jarl / province leader. AT THE VERY LEAST they need to make it so that when you become the leader of a guild you are actually respected or feared or talked about. I mean if I'm the leader of the mage's guild I shouldn't be gawked at by guards about a few little sparks from my hands; they should respect who I am lol. I would like to see a bit more acknowledgement of status and actions in ES6.
Lol bethesda making a good game anymore. They lost all of their competence with fallout 4, a boring shell of what could be a great game.
Biggest complaint about the game all in one good paragraph
Yep! You just described the biggest problem of the Elder Scrolls: nothing you do matters. You’re nobody and you stay nobody. And the world just doesn’t evolve. I would have loved to see cities expand or get obliterated depending on which side of the war you choose. It’s funny how an ugly old game from the early 2000s called Might and Magic VII does a better job at world building.
@Trebonius Flonius I would say Witcher 3,but even then
They wont, theyll stick to the same formula as usual. Thats why I enjoy playing morrowind with mods, they give you choices. But you can mod skyrim too which is alot better then the base game.
I would rather sell my soul to Sanguine or Sheogorath. At least they know how to have fun.
Alcatraz right plus their realms of oblivion are pretty
Yeah Sanguine is cool
There's a theory where the dragonborn is talos who was someone other god and I want to believe that so I can keep being reborn
@@jjohnson01 Pretty sure that's true. Dragonborn is Shor, so Lorkhan. Talos is a Shezzarine as well, as in a splinter of the God, that's why that old companion of Tiber Septim confuses us with him and that's why the throne of Sovngarde remains empty.
@@njux1871 I think the throne of sovngarde isn't empty remember when ysgramor or one of the other Nordic heroes said that shor is to bright for mortal eyes to see so he's actually there just not for mortal eyes to see
I think one of the most evil being in Tamriel, Molag Baal gives you a pretty awesome mace for nothing.
Molag: Kill this guy in self defence
Also, go look for this annoying guy and kill him
there you go have this Nasty-Looking mace just go kill many with it, bro.
I heavily disagree with this. I would recommend you listen to Karliah after choosing your agent. First of all spoiler alert. If you haven't done the thieves guild quest and actually listened to the story, do it, its pretty good. Anyways, she explains that Gallus went to the evergloam, and how its more so the "other side" of our world. She explains how those nightengales within the evergloam have influence over the luck and put "their hands in ours". There's WAY more to it than just existing in the evergloam. You watch over everyone and get to influence their luck aka the "shadows" within the land of Tamriel. Sounds pretty cool if you ask me. Its not a life time of servitude to Nocturnal. Your debt gets paid and then you are free to go. As Karliah explains, its "business" not a life sentence. Once you fulfill your transaction, you're free to roam the evergloam and you still get to have influence in Tamriel through the shadow. That's a fair deal to me. As we can see from Galus as well, his term was only 25 years or "quarter of a century" in his words (which is consistent with how long Karliah says she has been on the run), before his debt was paid and he could pass into the evergloam. In the eyes of immortality/forever, not bad. I would reconsider that becoming a nightingale sounds pretty awesome. As Karliah mentions like a hundred times, "You'll be provided all of the power and knowledge befitting a Nightingale. You're free to use those powers as you see fit to further your own goals or the goals of the Thieves Guild." You get to be YOU, just you have to serve for some time or when needed, but otherwise you get a ton of power and knowledge. Its a deal that favors you just as much as Nocturnal.
Who cares, black briars, thieves guild and nightingales should face eradication
Thank you. It is like he just skimmed and took the parts that he wanted. Not to mention if we consider all of the other daedric princes Nocturnal is the only one to not want worship befitting her nature. She breaks out of the norms of the other Daedric Princes. At this point she is my favorite one.
@IG Westcoast That is called lying. Now if you are doing a playthrough and your character thinks a certain way (for roleplayers) or if you are making a mod (Making the dream yours) and you don't pass it off as lore friendly lest the hounds get released then it is fine.
this is the best comment I've seen here so far
I just thought the armor you get is quite shitty as a reward. Like I was assuming I'd get a sweet no ability but noo.. some fucking armor and a bunch of new chores to do. Fuck the nocturnal.
Selling your soul is totally worth hearing Delvin say “you’re the best damn thief in the place!”
I really enjoy Thieves Guild questline until Nightingale stuff, then I just hate it
If I was able to destroy dark brotherhood, I'd be grateful if there's a dlc to eradicate *thieves guild, nightingale, black briars, silver hands, blades (namely delphine & esbern), rolf stone fist, angenor once honored and lastly the thalmor*
Considering you can absorb a shit ton of dragon souls, I always assumed the souls you were "selling" to the Daedric princes were those souls you'd collected.
In a way, all the princes you pledge your soul to are still getting their promised soul, just not the Dragonborn's exactly.
I saw it the same as Alucard recovers from damage in Hellsing. His physical form takes the shape he desires, but the damage is happening to the souls he's consumed.
Lol I thought there was a legitimate game value related reason. Not some silly dogma....
@Zxylo 5 yeah, but the lockpicking tree is already mostly pointless anyway
Ok, but what happen if a werewolf join the nightingale?
lol...now that's got me thinking. All I can see is just Hircine and Nocturnal playing tug-o-war with the dragonborn after they die and fighting like children over which realm of oblivion they get to go to.
What if you are "pledged" to more daedra than even that? Would there be an all out war between every daedric lord over the dragonborn?
I would love to see this referenced in the sequel, like there was some crazy conflict between the daedra over the dragonborn's soul cause he sold his soul to like all of them.
There's an interesting video about what happens to the dragonborn's soul after they die. Short answer is that they belong to Akatosh, so the daedric princes really have little to no claim to the dovahkin's soul
The problem here is this, you are a dragonborn so in theory you must go in the septim realm (something like akatosh heaven), but you are also a nord and you fight well so sovengarde is waiting you. But now we have an other problem in game 4 daedra can obtain your soul: hircine, nocturnal, hermeus mora and molag bal.
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You are the dragon born. Your soul cannot be claimed because you are Shor
Yes Daddy Lord God Emperor Savior
Apparently the dragon souls that the dragonborn absorbs are counted as him/her having multiple souls and each daedric prince they serve gets one and then the main soul goes to Sovengard
You pretty much sell your soul anytime you become something cool in Skyrim. I wonder where the Dragonborn goes when he/she dies. Outside of your claim on Jorvaskr as the Dovahkiin, depending on your life actions, you could end up in Coldharbour, Hircine's Hunting Grounds, or become an Agent of Nocturnal. You can even pledge service to Molag Bal, Meridia, Aura, and Hermaeus Mora. (I probably misspelled all that)
Ahem the dragonborn belongs to akatosh.
TheButtonMash3r The dragonborn will probaly end up in apocrypah
What if the Dragonborn gets killed by a dragon or another Dragonborn? Will their soul be absorbed?
@@aguynamedatidade HEEEERRREEE WE ARRRREEE!
BORN TO BE KINGS
WE ARE PRINCES OF THE UNIVERSE~
@@aguynamedatidade Unfortunately, yes.
Nocturnal "You are bound to me for life and after your death you will serve me in guarding the Twilight Sepulcher".
Me "really, well about that Sithis & Akatosh want me too & so do 15 other Daedric Princes, so hmmm good luck with that".
Akatosh trumps over in the end since Sithis is AFK forever
"Do not join'
My stubborness: (joins) don't tell me what to do
"You're not my mom" hahahah
Nocturnal: Your soul is mine.
Dragonborn: You're not worthy of its power.
Honestly I have sold my soul to every god in Skyrim to the point where when my character actually does die, it’s just gonna be a tug of war between celestial beings.
Nightingales aside.
That grass mod is just too much, not only does it look awful but it must take a toll on your computer. looks okay when in the wilderness, but in the cities the way it pops op though everything looks terrible.
I can't be the only one?
This is proof that Skyrim was supposed to have different protagonists
Even if akatosh didnt claim your soul when you dies , the dragonborn knows the fucking location to sovngard portal in real life.
He would just be like:
"The time has come my friend , take us to sovngard my dear Paarthurnax"
Or he would be just an volkihar castle vampire and live forever chilling with an umbrella
Avarti: "Dont do that" "dont do this..."- "Its not a good idea", "you shouldnt join in this and that"
Me: "YER NOT MY DAD!"