P2-What Happened To Me In China | The Accidents + Audio Recording

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  • Perhaps I really should have never gone there in the first place.

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  • @nompumelelomdodana3867
    @nompumelelomdodana3867 Місяць тому +62

    Continue sharing your story.
    Talking about it will bring you some healing. Don't be bothered about people trying to shut you up, this is your story and it will help those who need it most.❤

  • @melaluxe8195
    @melaluxe8195 Місяць тому +85

    I used to work for a chinese company in south Africa and it was hell on earth. I can’t imagine working for them in their home country 😢😢 I’m glad you’re back and I believe that new opportunities will definitely come your way ❤❤❤❤

    • @Luming-di9rf
      @Luming-di9rf Місяць тому +1

      Total BS.

    • @SibsM93
      @SibsM93 Місяць тому +9

      I agree. I'm still working at one and they dont treat people right, they don't see us. Only reason I'm not leaving yet is my plan B hqs fallen into place yet, and SA economy is rough..but once it does, I'm out like I was never there leaving is

    • @lindal3841
      @lindal3841 Місяць тому

      Same. We taught English online but at a business park. Long hours, racists clients and overall terrible conditions

    • @SuzieBu
      @SuzieBu Місяць тому +6

      totally agree. as a Chinese, i cannot stand most of chinese company. toxic culture

    • @VoyageFioreNetwork
      @VoyageFioreNetwork Місяць тому +2

      they are the worst people to work with, they have no compassion and they are very rude people

  • @abena8339
    @abena8339 Місяць тому +45

    Just started, and the beginning of the video, when you say you have a feeling you may have made a mistake, is so eerie. I’ve had that feeling maybe once. It’s strong, like you could touch it, and it hits you out of nowhere. It happens at the most inconvenient time, like when you’re already headed to the destination or in your case, at the destination. At that point, it’s like damn, what am I supposed to do now? It’s natural to try and bury that feeling. Never again though.

    • @oyinade7426
      @oyinade7426 Місяць тому

      You took the words right out of my mouth

    • @wendylinganiso6282
      @wendylinganiso6282 Місяць тому

      I would excuse myself and go home... Bakhohlakele aba

  • @bonnientsokota5757
    @bonnientsokota5757 Місяць тому +44

    One thing I have learned in my 7 years in China, when you are called into a meeting,they have already concluded everything about you and they will not listen to you and try to understand so trying to defend yourself will lead to endless back and forths. If they say I'm not doing something but I know I'm doing it I just say "okay," "no problem" This has worked for the sake of my mental health but kudos for defending yourself.

    • @sihlesihle6838
      @sihlesihle6838 Місяць тому +2

      Excuse me what language do they speak in their meetings coz where I am they exclude me by speaking their language

    • @5DConsciousness
      @5DConsciousness Місяць тому

      Wow!

    • @5DConsciousness
      @5DConsciousness Місяць тому

      ​​@@sihlesihle6838That's rude! It makes one feel like they're either talking about you or just disregarding you from the conversation.

    • @Peter-pe6pp
      @Peter-pe6pp Місяць тому +2

      Who was the one not listening here? Janet was trying to explain the expectations of the school and parents but she wasnt willing to listen. Kept making excuses . Is that how employees behave back in her country? In Asia and the western world that will get you fired

  • @selassies9783
    @selassies9783 Місяць тому +7

    One thing about Chinese schools. The parents run the school. If they complain about you, the school will let you go! Working for them is so stressful!

  • @Elizabeth_00777
    @Elizabeth_00777 Місяць тому +17

    I’m so glad you stood your ground and expressed exactly how you felt. The main one talking is just arrogant and stubborn, she didn’t want to see your point of view and not once did she apologized for their lack of communication and acknowledgement. And that fake laugh of hers. Ugh I’m sorry you went through that but you handled it well 👏🏼

  • @JS-uq7jl
    @JS-uq7jl Місяць тому +49

    The way they never listened for comprehension (only to respond) was so frustrating to listen to. 💔

    • @Nolusindiso_Hleko
      @Nolusindiso_Hleko  Місяць тому +9

      I wanted to write subtitles for the audio but it makes my blood boil 🤦‍♀️

    • @LS-gy9bq
      @LS-gy9bq Місяць тому +1

      Absolutely. Listening to that brought up PTSD. The manipulation and failure to listen while clearly having a hidden agenda (all while smiling and giving the appearance of everything to the contrary)

    • @LS-gy9bq
      @LS-gy9bq Місяць тому +6

      It was so annoying to hear her continuously bring up your accident as if you controlled the accidents and then try to act like the parents were just so concerned about your time out 🤯🤯🤬🤬‼️

    • @LS-gy9bq
      @LS-gy9bq Місяць тому +3

      Way to indirectly blame YOU for the ACCIDENTS and not be supportive 😡

    • @LS-gy9bq
      @LS-gy9bq Місяць тому +2

      The one thing that I will say is the one issue about leaving at 4:30 because you felt like you were not appreciated did not seem culturally in alignment with the way they do things. So, holding out or refusing to stay a bit longer because you didn't feel appreciated it seemed a little bit much to me.

  • @badsaint1019
    @badsaint1019 4 дні тому +1

    I can only speak about Korea, but the only way to keep your boss out of your bum is to put your head down, never miss a day of work even if you feel like you're dying, always say yes, and be flexible like no other especially in private schools/hagwons as they're essentially a business and sees foreign teachers as dispensable help. I work at a university now, so I only work about 10 hours a week and basically don't interact with my korean boss all but twice a semester. But if anyone has any doubts about teaching, ALWAYS ask the school to let you talk to a current or former foreign teacher there and never go to a school that you are the only foreigner there unless the exception would be a public school, but never a hagwon. Too many horror stories I've read and heard about... I myself have tattoos on my arms and even in summer always wear long sleeves when I teach not to piss off my boss and make students complain.

  • @napemogotsi9910
    @napemogotsi9910 Місяць тому +10

    I’m proud of you for standing up for yourself ❤being a foreign teacher doesn’t mean you should be abused

  • @nompumelelomdodana3867
    @nompumelelomdodana3867 Місяць тому +38

    Im even upset at the fact that we don't mistreat Chinese people when they're here in South Africa.
    But they mistreat us both here in South Africa and in their home land.

    • @lindc1070
      @lindc1070 Місяць тому +1

      😂you mistreat other Africans whom you consider inferior to you like Zimbabweans. You dont dare mistreat Chinese because you see them as superior to you and economically they arent desperate like Africans from these countries you ill treat. They will never tolerate you ill treating them.

    • @teascobie6557
      @teascobie6557 Місяць тому

      foreign people in Africa seem to be able to behave any way they please and still get their feet kissed by locals. When Africans are abroad, they are usually model citizens and are still mistreated by locals.

    • @Peter-pe6pp
      @Peter-pe6pp 26 днів тому

      ​@@teascobie6557😂what a joke! You need to be educated in who behaves in the most uncivilsed manner. Why dont you look up videos of Nigerian diplomats fighting on streets in Malaysia? It is on youtube.

  • @izalizbug
    @izalizbug Місяць тому +7

    "You need to work on your time management" triggered me so hard! I was being paid 25k usd per year to work at a startup in los angeles and had to go on food stamps to survive because after taxes I was trying to live on 15k a year. My manager said that to me all the time! I honestly think most of my mental head space was filled with trying to come up with money on the side to pay my bills. I'm so sorry you went through this.
    I'm finally at a job that pays me for my time and expertise. It's absolutely wild to look back on how little I was valued by people who were making 3 figures. These systems prey on people who are young in their careers and are abusive.

  • @candice4030
    @candice4030 Місяць тому +19

    Can’t believe you went to work after getting into an accident !! That’s terrible and the bruises 💔

    • @nkululekomabaso1629
      @nkululekomabaso1629 Місяць тому +1

      They did the same with me too. I fell in the morning, went to hospitals and was back to school to complete a day’s work. Other foreign teachers / colleagues were so mad😢

  • @networkashley6607
    @networkashley6607 Місяць тому +6

    I’m glad you are out of that situation. I know it must have been so stressful especially with the pandemic going on as well ❤.

  • @annapaik100
    @annapaik100 Місяць тому +2

    Basically, when Janet was talking about prepping for the whole week at the start of each week...she was suggesting you do it in your free time. That's what she meant and that's what she was hoping. As a Korean American, I understand both her point of view and yours. A lot of the conflicts seem rooted in cultural differences...even replying to a group text, it's respectful to at least acknowledge it with an emoticon or a simple 'ok'. But again, I understand your POV as well.

  • @alldayglory9438
    @alldayglory9438 Місяць тому +9

    I love how you stoood your ground , the way I’m so terrible I would be so pissed n cry😂😂. I’m sorry about your experience ❤

    • @Nolusindiso_Hleko
      @Nolusindiso_Hleko  Місяць тому +9

      This used to be me, I had to learn that when you cry people do not realise that you angry instead it makes them feel powerful; they feel good for making you cry.
      So, I learned to remain calm, listen and respond but I think being calm now makes people angry hahaha

    • @alldayglory9438
      @alldayglory9438 Місяць тому +1

      @@Nolusindiso_Hleko yhoo I need to learn this too

    • @kenpachizaza1179
      @kenpachizaza1179 12 днів тому

      @@Nolusindiso_Hleko you were too good for this school, giving each child individual homework is you being a good loving teacher but 20 kids in 30min, they weren't giving the kids a chance.

  • @nondumisomathenjwa5075
    @nondumisomathenjwa5075 Місяць тому +8

    One thing about them they can tell you that you need to do 123 and when you ask "when ?" they're always like "now " or "tomorrow "
    I get surprises every time when im at work

  • @emmas726
    @emmas726 Місяць тому +2

    Sorry to hear of what you went through. You're very strong and inspirational ❤

  • @ntombiyethu28
    @ntombiyethu28 Місяць тому +4

    Thank you for sharing Nolu. I also taught at a training school in China and have had similar experiences. These schools are so shady man. Like I always say, China is great place tovisit, but not great to live in. I'm so sorry you went through this experience. Keep sharing and healing. ❤

  • @Lluv-p8w
    @Lluv-p8w Місяць тому +5

    I thank God that you got out. These people are full of prejudice and hatred. If you can pay to send your children to private school to learn English, the parent you should ensure that your children are getting the lesson, not the teacher.

  • @priscilla8068
    @priscilla8068 Місяць тому +7

    This explains the crazy work culture in East Asia. I feel do bad for their employees because they're expected to work themselves to d*eath and it's crazy how the law doesn't care about worker's rights. It's no wonder many Asian parents send their kids abroad, they wanna save them from this system. Keep sharing your story Nolu, it's important.

    • @SibsM93
      @SibsM93 Місяць тому

      Funny enough, those Asian kids that are sent abroad, grow to be successful entrepreneurs that also overwork their employees in these countries that aren't their home lands. They cycle does not end

    • @lindc1070
      @lindc1070 Місяць тому +2

      Many? Most dont either because they cant afford it or dont want the kids picking up other cultural values.Those that stay also do well. Some kids do well and some dont in any school system. But just look at how well the East Asian countried do compared to Africa? It has to do with the culture including attitide to school and work. So at the end of the day they are the successful ones . Just look at those countries that are more relaxed , they dont do well.

  • @Ms_wasabi
    @Ms_wasabi Місяць тому +6

    This is the sucky thing about academies. They wing everything and expect you to fall into place. But also, how dare you don’t finish the heap load of work they expect you to do. And nothing is ever their fault.

  • @KickingitWithKara2
    @KickingitWithKara2 Місяць тому +4

    The whole thing just triggers me. I’m sorry you had to go through that❤️❤️❤️.

    • @oyinade7426
      @oyinade7426 Місяць тому +1

      I’m sitting here and I’m more than TRIGGERED! Nothing worse than someone telling you to do the impossible and insinuate you don’t know your job!

  • @noelpaintonsmith8091
    @noelpaintonsmith8091 7 днів тому

    I teach for a Chinese company online. I just visited China for the first time and got to meet the people I work with and the director/owner of the school. I am SO HAPPY that they were nothing like the people you worked with. How you were treated is unreal from the beginning. They should have taken care of everything for you from the plane ticket to your apartment to your quarantine, to the accident. You shouldn't have to pay for their issue.

  • @refilwemathule8347
    @refilwemathule8347 Місяць тому +14

    I swear the stress and anxiety from the school is what kept getting you into those accidents. Realize that when a place is not good for you, you cannot concentrate on anything. You just got the worst end of the stick and it was your first time in China.

  • @SibsM93
    @SibsM93 Місяць тому +6

    I almost went to Chi to teach a short while before covid, I just didn't continue with my interview process. Then boom covid. I had been beating myself up for a missed opportunity but after all these happenings to SA teachers in Chi and covid as well, I no longer feel bad for not going.

    • @StecyBenz
      @StecyBenz Місяць тому +1

      Don’t listen to anyone who don’t work diligently .

  • @unmaskwithbasi8897
    @unmaskwithbasi8897 Місяць тому +2

    I’m so proud of how you carried yourself through out this ordeal, never mind the hate, they haven’t gone through what you went through, it’s much easier to be a keyboard warrior.

    • @Nolusindiso_Hleko
      @Nolusindiso_Hleko  Місяць тому +1

      Indeed, it is much more easier to judge from the outside looking in

  • @Candylady-jb6md
    @Candylady-jb6md Місяць тому +22

    I am so sorry for what you had to go through in China Janet seems so mean I'm sorry you had to deal with her I'm so sorry this happened to you

    • @Candylady-jb6md
      @Candylady-jb6md Місяць тому +1

      At least you tried to stand up for yourself in the audio recording

  • @neommutle8033
    @neommutle8033 Місяць тому +1

    I would have lost my mind, i cant stand such nonsense meetings. The entire experience is just crazy. Your strong, i would have left.

  • @Candylady-jb6md
    @Candylady-jb6md Місяць тому +3

    And also your story was published by nca news I hope it will be used as awareness I love the fact that you're story was published people need to know what kind of stuff that goes on in some cases like yours.💓💓💓💓💓💓💓💓💓💓

  • @BasetsanaHill
    @BasetsanaHill Місяць тому +9

    Hi nolu, my name is Basetsana Horing, I’ve been through exactly what u went through, I’m trying to do a video and speak out too, was scared but ur videos inspired me to do 1 today!

    • @Nolusindiso_Hleko
      @Nolusindiso_Hleko  Місяць тому +3

      Do you already have a channel? I will sub

    • @unmaskwithbasi8897
      @unmaskwithbasi8897 Місяць тому +3

      @@Nolusindiso_Hleko oh yes I uploaded the first 1 yesterday, I turned off comments because I knew the racists would attack me, they already did on tik tok, but this is my official account I posted my first video, again thank you so much for giving me strength to share my story.
      I’m so sorry for what you went through

  • @lira2414
    @lira2414 Місяць тому +6

    If you have an open lesson prepare activities that will get all the kids to participate, every parent wants to see that their kid gets to speak or participate in class. Maybe 4 activities, whereby 10 students participate in the 2 and same for the next 10. Create something on the side that will keep the others busy while others do the activity. I worked in a call center and had open lessons every Thursday and I took feedback from parents and management positively and tried to improve to impress them. Research and observe other teachers for different ideas and most importantly pray. God will never give you a task you can’t handle.

    • @Nolusindiso_Hleko
      @Nolusindiso_Hleko  Місяць тому

      Not teaching anymore but thank you.

    • @StecyBenz
      @StecyBenz Місяць тому +1

      @@Nolusindiso_Hleko you don’t like teaching in the first place , you just wanted the money

    • @Nolusindiso_Hleko
      @Nolusindiso_Hleko  Місяць тому +3

      😂😂 should you be sewing a wig somewhere ?

    • @lira2414
      @lira2414 Місяць тому +1

      I hope you are doing something you love now.

    • @Nolusindiso_Hleko
      @Nolusindiso_Hleko  Місяць тому +3

      Most importantly, I am in a place that treats me like human being ❤️❤️
      I have a voice, I don’t feel owned 🫶🏾

  • @melliesweets70
    @melliesweets70 Місяць тому +1

    Honestly, after the car accident for me that would have been wrap. Knowing when to exit such situations is key when working as a foreigner overseas ❤

  • @Chanise332
    @Chanise332 Місяць тому +4

    I'm really sorry that you went through all of this❤

  • @queenlesedi
    @queenlesedi Місяць тому +3

    I have to say their idea of praying at the temple had to be the best, given your accidents there

  • @darkscreenambienceforsleep3627
    @darkscreenambienceforsleep3627 Місяць тому +10

    I think what a lot of people should know is that China is not a democratic country - which there’s nothing wrong with…it works for the country. If you come from a democratic country or a country that has an extremely different way of thinking and operating, know that you cannot expect to have similar working conditions as those in your home country. China is also big on hierarchy. These are important things to know if you want to work there. There are a lot of things that were said by the lady that were suss, but I think that what could’ve escalated the issue between the two parties was the back and forth. There have been so many instances when people ended up in unfavourable situations at work in China because they have opinions that ‘need to be heard’. Not to say you shouldn’t stand up for yourself, but it’s tricky in China and foreigners should always have that in mind. I hope this young lady finds an opportunity that matches her values and interests ❤

    • @jabulisiletugwana6545
      @jabulisiletugwana6545 Місяць тому +3

      Yes, my sense is it was a cultural misfit.

    • @Channyy956
      @Channyy956 Місяць тому +3

      This is true. I work in China and it’s honestly their culture.

    • @fefemyluv
      @fefemyluv Місяць тому +2

      Good points. Kudos to people who can do it. I don’t think I’d ever place myself into a position to do so.

    • @StecyBenz
      @StecyBenz Місяць тому +2

      Thank you , ❤

    • @lira2414
      @lira2414 Місяць тому +2

      So true.

  • @LindiweBunganex
    @LindiweBunganex Місяць тому

    Your opening video is exactly how I felt when I entered Macau.....I knew I had made the wrong move and I spent my one year there constantly reminding myself that this was only a bubble.

  • @zannielamuni
    @zannielamuni Місяць тому +4

    Oh one thing about them, they will pretend to car when you’re sick 🤦🏾‍♀️

  • @Gorgeous_Noxolo
    @Gorgeous_Noxolo Місяць тому +3

    I had Chinese house mates in Houston, Texas, United States and they were amazing. I’m sorry about your experience

    • @blueirene2659
      @blueirene2659 Місяць тому

      As friends, agreed, I’d say they are the best! Employers, nope

  • @julietwanjiru7816
    @julietwanjiru7816 Місяць тому +11

    Then nails part is so far fetched, this whole interaction is so triggering to listen. Worked with Chinese here in Nairobi and it’s typical of them to behave in such manner. Especially when they are trying to dig up for issues, just to pin you down.

  • @hiwichom8141
    @hiwichom8141 Місяць тому +7

    All Chinese kindergarten or training centers want the family to be happy, they don’t give a damn about the kids knowledge at all . So all they want is to see the family brag about their kid being on a short video in the classroom. So my advice do the bare minimum to get paid and do as your boss tells you to do so that keeps you from unnecessary stress . And about the surprise meetings and other activities it’s mad they are so unprofessional about that. I really hated that when I stayed in china but we are glad you are ok that’s all it matters. This will be a good experience in the future. Stay safe.

  • @AiaYoussef
    @AiaYoussef Місяць тому +5

    You were so right and respectful when you were talking, when they didn't deserve your respect nor effort ,bless you girl❤

  • @AliayNtuli
    @AliayNtuli Місяць тому +9

    Can someone please summarise the audio recording iyoh I’m failing to listen to it

    • @Candylady-jb6md
      @Candylady-jb6md Місяць тому +8

      Basically she's being scolded for things that she couldn't control like the accident s she had her nails and all around just being scolded and yelled at for things she couldn't control basically

  • @kenya9540
    @kenya9540 Місяць тому +3

    Wow, you did have a lot of accidents.

  • @greggorywilson2765
    @greggorywilson2765 Місяць тому

    Thank you for sharing your experience. I am going to complete this series you posted but will comment here. A couple of decades ago (SARS era) I was considering making the leap from the PRC being my second home (at the time, no longer; ex=PRC) to immigrating to Shanghai to take a long term job at a Chinese company ( I did however know a VP there from working with him in the US). I did not pull the trigger. My basic reasoning for not was the risk factor of "something going wrong". ... ... I am really sorry for your experience there.

  • @wendylinganiso6282
    @wendylinganiso6282 Місяць тому

    You have all the patience in the world. I thought I was patient but no after listening to these videos.... I don't have time for crap. They just not appreciative. 5 years of experience in Korea and they still have guts to ask you this 💩

  • @JoeyBlogs007
    @JoeyBlogs007 Місяць тому +7

    China is a crazy place. It's no surprise you feel odd.

    • @JoeyBlogs007
      @JoeyBlogs007 Місяць тому +4

      Terrible drivers over there.

  • @lenny1980
    @lenny1980 Місяць тому

    I think it's crazy that they let you work after having a car accident, that's insane

  • @bluesky1685
    @bluesky1685 Місяць тому +4

    Just finished listening... joh this was intense 😢

  • @ludwe7857
    @ludwe7857 Місяць тому +5

    Janet is a piece of work 🥲at least you stood up for yourself as much as you could though.

  • @KickinTheBucket-List
    @KickinTheBucket-List Місяць тому +4

    Is she crying about 'rodger that'???😂😭

  • @Lluv-p8w
    @Lluv-p8w Місяць тому +8

    They sound like they are trying to find problems. They never had their shit together from day one.

  • @Sunshine-zi4nq
    @Sunshine-zi4nq Місяць тому +3

    You provided lesson plans to your sub teacher on the very day and expected her to be prepared? Your school required you to have them submitted the Thursday earlier with good reason. You showed no consideration for your students, the school, or the sub.
    Btw preparing lessons outside of work hours is very common amongst teachers in Asia, also developed countries in the West. Maybe you are unaware of that.

  • @TheAlizwa
    @TheAlizwa Місяць тому +24

    Not gonna lie, Janet makes sense about the daily plans. The fact that they should be prepared a week in advance in a folder in the office, in case there is an accident and the teacher cannot be there. We do the same thing in my school in South Africa. You are also expected to prepare in your personal time not when you are teaching. Usually, you do not teach the whole day, you have free periods so that is when you do your planning and marking and if you do not finish in that time, then you do it during your personal time. As far as I know that is how it always works, from my experience and the experience of all the teachers in my family, that is the reason that teachers are always fighting to get paid more, but the point is, in this situation, what Janet said was not strange, but it seemed like you were defensive about it.
    I do wonder if maybe you were not used to how much work you had to do in a Chinese school. Someone I know who teaches in Korea told me that English teachers do not work that much there. I don't know if that is true, but maybe that was another reason why it was so difficult for you to adapt?

    • @Nolusindiso_Hleko
      @Nolusindiso_Hleko  Місяць тому +14

      You’ve got a point but I have never not met a single deadline. I would stay at work until 10pm sometimes and even take work home.
      We had lesson plans planned for a whole semester. We used textbooks to teach the kids but we had to look for worksheets on our own.
      Since they used our preparation time for all kinds of things; none of us prepared the worksheets in advance.
      In a place where they at least respected our prep time, things would have been better.

    • @TheAlizwa
      @TheAlizwa Місяць тому +1

      @@Nolusindiso_Hleko That's true. I'm curious if this was something that happened all the time? Schools tend to have so many other things that teachers have to be part of. It is expected of you, but constantly disrupting your free time between classes is not something that would have been okay. However, if it was something that was done once In a while, I still do not think that is out of the ordinary, that is something we have to deal with too in Primary School. Where things would suddenly come up and we can't use our free periods to do our planning.

    • @Nolusindiso_Hleko
      @Nolusindiso_Hleko  Місяць тому +6

      We had dedicated free time and like I said on the audio, they would have spontaneous things quite frequently.
      This happened so much that it was extremely frustrating hence I say that on the audio.
      At some point, you get tired of using your personal time to prepare for a job that doesn’t seem to communicate well and doesn’t respect your personal time.
      None of us had the folder she mentioned because we were all just exhausted of trying to get them to communicate things in advance

    • @ZeeSeesh
      @ZeeSeesh Місяць тому +4

      Firstly I'd like to say sorry to Nolu about her experience, I'm with you on this one sending lesson plans on the day is somewhat an inconvenience. As much as Nolu's experiences are extremely horrible on this end Janet had a point.

    • @Nolusindiso_Hleko
      @Nolusindiso_Hleko  Місяць тому +3

      OMG 🙄🙄🙄 like I said on a comment above, lesson plans were done a semester in advance.
      It wasn’t lessons that I sent to the substitute, it supplementary materials for the books 🙄🙄🙄

  • @VoyageFioreNetwork
    @VoyageFioreNetwork Місяць тому +3

    They also have no communication skills

  • @Varusinawako
    @Varusinawako Місяць тому +3

    I'm trying to understand what's so embarrassing about 'Roger that'😂😂😂

  • @saintxbarbie
    @saintxbarbie Місяць тому +8

    wow that meeting was a giant waste of time. You can't treat international workers like Chinese workers and hold the same expectations on them and wonder why its not working

  • @Calabaza866
    @Calabaza866 9 днів тому

    Folks, never forget that there are always another side to the story.....don't expect to work in a foreign country( which will have with different expectations) with practices you're accustomed
    to in your own country.

  • @plant_paradox5663
    @plant_paradox5663 Місяць тому +3

    what a great channel

  • @lindc1070
    @lindc1070 Місяць тому +6

    You took time off due to your accidents which were no fault of the school so why make a big deal about staying a few minutes extra on another day? In Asia it is common to not go back on the dot. Those who are clock watchers dont go far. It is self importance to think you need to be asked like as in a favour. Maybe this is a cultural difference .

    • @Changelightbulb
      @Changelightbulb Місяць тому

      Chinese lol. Stop generalising “Asia”; the rest of the Asian countries are not same as China.

    • @lindc1070
      @lindc1070 Місяць тому

      @@Changelightbulb most of East Asia has the same work culture. I live in Singapore, we have a similar work culture. Japan, Korea, Hong kong, Taiwan are similar too though different from China in other ways. In terms of work culture expectations are similar. Even in Malaysia her frequent absences wont be tolerated. These are the more efficient countries where there is progress.

    • @Changelightbulb
      @Changelightbulb Місяць тому

      @@lindc1070 Hon, oh trust me when I said each Asian culture is unique; im from South Korea and I live in Singapore :) Sure there overarching themes but you can’t generalise them especially the work culture.

    • @lindc1070
      @lindc1070 Місяць тому

      @@Changelightbulb there are plenty of similarities , that is what I mean. Just because you dont see them doesnt mean they dont exist. Of course there are differences too. But East Asian work cultures have some similarities that differentiate them from western, e.g work life balance. Btw Nolu didnt like S. Korea either. She had problems there too.

    • @Changelightbulb
      @Changelightbulb Місяць тому

      @@lindc1070 I believe your comment presents a generalisation by attributing this issue to ‘culture,’ which could imply that certain behaviors should be accepted. However, work culture varies significantly across countries-even between Korea, China, and Singapore. It also depends on the specific company and the individuals involved. In this case, it’s important to note that sick leave is legally protected paid leave, and therefore, she is not obligated to compensate by working additional hours on other days. This matter isn’t about culture, but rather legal rights. So don’t make this about “this is how things are in Asia” because it is not.

  • @JS-uq7jl
    @JS-uq7jl Місяць тому +4

    Speaking of BASIC skills…letting teachers know about trainings in advance…? Must be an advanced skill. 🙄

  • @Raaaaven
    @Raaaaven Місяць тому +1

    She really tried to raise an issue with you because you answered her with “Roger that”…oh puh-lease 😂

  • @lungelongubane4071
    @lungelongubane4071 Місяць тому +1

    God forbid the way they downplayed yall guys concerns was just sad and honestly disgusting hw can a person act like tat towards another 💔💔💔💔💔💔🫂🫂🫂🫂I'm just happy tat u OK nw

  • @idkweirdchic4960
    @idkweirdchic4960 Місяць тому +2

    Nolu im not trying to be mean or rude but working in Asian countries is one of the most rigorous intense workplaces of all. They are punctual and not understanding no matter the situation. I have worked with only asians before and this is exactly how they are and wont really change their mindset. 😢
    You have you consider you are not in your country and you have to accommodate. I think you need to learn to read the room a bit. Cuz at times it seems your a bit oblivious to the things that go on if your absent.

    • @Peter-pe6pp
      @Peter-pe6pp Місяць тому

      Exactly. The expectations and standards in developed Asian countries are different from many African countriesn

  • @Peter-pe6pp
    @Peter-pe6pp Місяць тому +2

    Perhaps you have no idea how to work in countries that have developed economies. I know in some countries workers take leave as they like and dont complete work on time. Corruption is normal so is being late.Well, this isnt acceptable in developed countries..China isnt even what we consider a developed country . I am based in Hong Kong and can tell you , your attitude would have got you fired.
    It seems you have no interest in the needs of the parents or the school. If parents are unhappy the school loses business. If my child had a teacher constantly getting into accidents I would ask for a change in teacher or take her out of the school. The disruption of a sub teacher coming in often affects the education of young children. In Asia , Education is taken very seriously and parents pay a lot to private schools. You wont make it in any developed economy why dont you stick to.South Africa?

  • @AnnaMuzaza
    @AnnaMuzaza Місяць тому +3

    This meeting was so long, but there were some points that you could have also communicated better...you spoke over the ladies and were dimissive to feedback that was coming from them and the parents as they alleged. Which at some point you could have just acknowledged maybe, but you came off defensive and erritated. Of ocurse there might be circumstance that might have made you feel you had to be on the defence. Even when one of the ladies commnented on the nails being too long for what their school preferred, that did not need to be a point of contention. From the outside looking in, eventhough all the accidents weren't your fault of course, maybe from the view of the employer it might have made you seem unreliable etc...these are just thoughts listening to the meeting. I have worked with chines people and the work ethic culture is different from our own, some might even say they are terrible employers in many senses. However you walking out just like that without communication is also not good.
    With that said, your point of sparadic tasks throwing of your day and inconviniencing the employees was very much valid. But then gain i can be very passive, perhaps the observation is coming from a perspective of just do whats asked. So i would not know how i would react if i was in your shoes. And they didnt seem considerate so.

  • @alishanziro
    @alishanziro Місяць тому +4

    Nah someone was bewitching you for real 😂 you need do some fire prayers to ward off evil altars and their priests 😂😂

  • @nesadcruz7840
    @nesadcruz7840 Місяць тому +14

    Am just going to comment on your conversation with Janet. Your whole tone is off in an Asian work place context. I can see you were a complete misfit. You failed to show respect for a superior or appreciate the fact that the school runs a business and is accountable to parents who expect some consistency. Instead of being apologetic for the inconvenience and embarassment you caused them you were complaining about not being “ acknowledged” for being expected to stay over time. What about your absences due to accidents?
    Perhaps you are used to something else in your own country but If you move to work abroad you either adapt or leave. Actually Janet came across as very tolerant. Most employers would not tolerate an employee talking back in this manner especially an underperformer who kept going on “ sick” leave due to accidents.
    Am just posting this for the benefit of Africans thinking of working Asian countries that pay well . When you are paid more, expectations are also higher so you need to consider whether this is something acceptable to you.

    • @smilelyjax22
      @smilelyjax22 Місяць тому +3

      I agree, it seems like this whole situation was a nightmare for everyone involved lol. The culture in China, especially when it comes to education is extremely intense compared to other countries, and if you go there with no idea of what the culture and workplace expectations are 😬😬 You will be frustrated by how they put the organization/ company/team ahead of the needs of the individual, and they will be frustrated at how little you exert yourself for the good of the team. All of society there takes schooling and exams incredibly seriously and they expect you to maximize every single minute, which is why Janet was suggesting immediately working with kids that finish their snacks early during snack time. Gatherings after work with your coworkers are normal and expected in China to build strong social reputation with colleagues and because keeping a good reputation as a whole is important. I wouldn't fit into the culture there either and would never take a job there myself, but I get stressed out just imagining taking a job like that with no idea of what I was getting into and just trusting everything to work out and my legality to be handled for me. I could not lol.

    • @nesadcruz7840
      @nesadcruz7840 Місяць тому +5

      @@smilelyjax22 You are right. Work culture and lifestyle, priorities etc vary from culture to culture. The aspects you mentioned can also be seen in Taiwan, Hong Kong,South Korea, Japan , even Singapore. A foreigner who cant adapt should just remain in their own countries. The problem is they want the higher pay but arent prepared to deal with the higher expectations. Having said that, she failed even with basic expectations at least in Asia and the West. I am aware Africa runs differently . Her failure to complete work on time and frequent absences due to “ accidents” would not be looked upon favourably in the west either.

    • @smilelyjax22
      @smilelyjax22 Місяць тому +5

      @@nesadcruz7840 100%. In every interaction where they express an ounce of concern or criticism for how she's teaching, she immediately becomes defensive and creates a wall of explanation for how there is absolutely no possibility for her to improve or do more for kids that are struggling to learn, etc. and that there's not enough time for her to do more than she's doing. She doesn't acknowledge that her absences, however justified, are an unexpected inconvenience for the school and the parents or express any understanding for their concerns. I do my best to practice radical self accountability, so I am always finding ways in which I contributed to the circumstance/problem/situation at hand and I know that there is always room for improvement, and listening to the defensiveness and inability to take feedback makes me cringe, but I also really appreciate that she's being vulnerable enough to share the recordings. It's illuminating whether you agree with her perspective or not

    • @nesadcruz7840
      @nesadcruz7840 Місяць тому +4

      @@smilelyjax22 I agree with you but I think she shares these videos for sympathy or UA-cam fame. She lacks self awareness and doesnt realise how she comes off looking bad.

    • @smilelyjax22
      @smilelyjax22 Місяць тому +4

      @@nesadcruz7840 Absolutely, I think so as well. I don't know that she'll ever see herself as anything but a victim in the situation but I'm glad she shared the audio recordings and didn't just tell her side of the story without them, even if she only did it to get people to agree with her perspective and get views. We all get to reflect on communication styles and our own values and views on how we communicate as a result so even if she learns nothing from it, many others will. I appreciate your comment in the sea of people who see her completely in the right

  • @HermonBalcha
    @HermonBalcha Місяць тому +1

    Shanghai never felt right for me too .

  • @nelzg5819
    @nelzg5819 Місяць тому

    This grogginess in your voice though . ai

  • @Varusinawako
    @Varusinawako Місяць тому +1

    Yho. This is bringing back so much trauma. I worked for a Chinese company for five years and it was hell. The way I rejoiced when I quit!

  • @Calabaza866
    @Calabaza866 9 днів тому

    Was Janet aware that you were recording her?.....you wouldn't get away with this practice working in the USA....and I doubt it even in your native country of South Africa.

  • @wendylinganiso6282
    @wendylinganiso6282 Місяць тому +1

    I don't even like that sarcastic laugh she's doing

  • @StecyBenz
    @StecyBenz Місяць тому +6

    You all stop talking nonsense about China where as you know where you come from is worse . They are very kind people, and they take work seriously, so if you come with the entitlement from your country forgetting you are in another person’s country, keep that at the airport and do what you are here for .

    • @Nolusindiso_Hleko
      @Nolusindiso_Hleko  Місяць тому +9

      Focus on your wig biz sis, you’re doing great over there 🙂 your country is worse than SA but you’re great in China, so stay focused Queen

    • @Nia_global
      @Nia_global Місяць тому +1

      😂😂😂😂Abeg Madam… are you working for China?

    • @StecyBenz
      @StecyBenz Місяць тому +5

      @@Nolusindiso_Hleko nobody said my country was half as good as SA , hence China is an SA is not a competition here , when you get a job work with all your heart and stop ruining chances for other South Africans who want to work and even other African who are willing to work but have no opportunity . Your entitlement can’t be used in any school in SA , stop spoiling chances for others. Leaving your country , you should already know working abroad you have to do what’s necessary , obedient before complaining

    • @Nolusindiso_Hleko
      @Nolusindiso_Hleko  Місяць тому +3

      To think you were once an English teacher and this is how you write is a total joke 😂
      At least I wasn’t teaching on a business visa 🙂
      All the best though obedient Queen 👸🏾

    • @StecyBenz
      @StecyBenz Місяць тому +1

      @@Nolusindiso_Hleko even if I taught with no visa , at least I was grateful to have the job and I did everything to keep it for 4 years and same job coming straight from high school no teaching degree or even a degree but I handled a Montessori kindergarten class for 4 years with no qualifications just doing the right research to better my work and the value of the school
      You coming in with a z visa from another country you stayed for 4 years and moved from jobs to jobs says a lot about your loyalty
      You can be can have a degree but can keep a job cuz you lack team building skills and you have so much entitlement

  • @oyandakona5994
    @oyandakona5994 Місяць тому +4

    Sana gut felling ibalulekilw uyife uyimamele

  • @emmaalexander7528
    @emmaalexander7528 Місяць тому

    They should have supported their teacher. Full stop.

  • @ChisomandPiotr
    @ChisomandPiotr Місяць тому +3

    ❤❤❤❤

  • @Changelightbulb
    @Changelightbulb Місяць тому

    Ok your boss clearly does not know how to provide effective coaching. But Girl….you also need to learn how to manage up. You Either of you acknowledged each other in this conversation, not a single time.

  • @fairdragon79
    @fairdragon79 Місяць тому

    Oooh, such a terrible experience. I can clearly see how expectations didn't meet here. They say many things that they expect you to read between the lines. Take the preparation of next week's teaching material as an example. You keep telling them that you are only given 1.5 hours to prepare everything. They are obviously not expecting you to get that done in the given time; they expect you to get it done, whatever it takes, even if it means missing a night's sleep. Same with all the discussion about working hours. From their perspective, your working hours are when they tell you to work. This is a fairly standard way of thinking in Chinese working culture. Things may be different in more established international schools, but this one looks and sounds like it has a strong local flair, which will cause problems if you are unfamiliar with the expectations. As for the discussions around your injuries, they come from the perspective that parents are worried you will somehow bring bad luck to their kids. Remember, superstition is a big thing in China and is taken seriously. If I was called in for a conversation like that, I would walk out and quit without notice.

    • @Peter-pe6pp
      @Peter-pe6pp Місяць тому +1

      The " accidents" are a concern not because of bad luck but because it is very disruptive to young kids to constantly have subs come in , moreover she provided lesson plans late so the subs werent prepared. Even in Hong Kong and Taiwan, many other countries, this would be of concern to parentsm

  • @teyianneful
    @teyianneful Місяць тому +1

    Please, please 🙏🏾 for your own personal safety NEVER return to China

  • @BebeStellas
    @BebeStellas Місяць тому +3

    You are very brave to name and shame this school and specific individuals in this way. Also publishing a recorded meeting with your former employer takes nerve. I am assuming you never plan to teach again. Bear in mind other potential employers may see these videos too and frown. Don’t shoot yourself in the foot whilst seeking your righteous justice.

    • @Nia_global
      @Nia_global Місяць тому

      Ohhhh Fokoff!🙄Oh! she must fear and run not everyone is a chicken 🐓 like you.. Nolu is allowed to share her story it is her STORY and Truth PERIOD!! A woman was abused!! No one has right to lay their filthy hands on her….That school was Shady Period!

    • @Nolusindiso_Hleko
      @Nolusindiso_Hleko  Місяць тому +5

      My employer knows about the whole thing and is very supportive 🫶🏾

  • @deborahramaphala9056
    @deborahramaphala9056 Місяць тому

    You had a black eye before bitten in China why are you back???

  • @wendylinganiso6282
    @wendylinganiso6282 Місяць тому

    Nolu you were too good for this nonsense

  • @Southern-Belle
    @Southern-Belle Місяць тому +1

    That sound so much like Korea,they expect magic shem.

  • @siziwemk3750
    @siziwemk3750 Місяць тому +1

    PTSD From 32:30

  • @dikolizaskk5847
    @dikolizaskk5847 Місяць тому +8

    You should have asked for a sick note from the hospital, you can't just stay away from work without it.....who does that?

    • @Nolusindiso_Hleko
      @Nolusindiso_Hleko  Місяць тому +31

      LOL I like the fact that you assumed there was no sick note, 😊

    • @notyourfrind9415
      @notyourfrind9415 Місяць тому +23

      ​@@Nolusindiso_Hleko I've noticed a trend of people trying to vilify you on these videos and iyadika. Subahoya mkhaya.

    • @kikilee2203
      @kikilee2203 Місяць тому +12

      no mara this lady has something against you sheem😂😂all her comments are iffy 😕😅

    • @Nolusindiso_Hleko
      @Nolusindiso_Hleko  Місяць тому +11

      Yep, I don’t know why she is so mad 😂; I don’t even know her.

    • @Nolusindiso_Hleko
      @Nolusindiso_Hleko  Місяць тому +11

      Zininzi izibhanxa apha, I just get annoyed

  • @OlgaMnyanda
    @OlgaMnyanda Місяць тому

    Intorragation senseless jah ok from annoying janet jah ok fake laugh gosh some folks.🤯🤯😈👿👿

  • @kea_blessed
    @kea_blessed Місяць тому +2

    This Janet lady annoys me shame

  • @MissQomfortable
    @MissQomfortable Місяць тому +1

    Yhooo uyakwazi ukuzithethela sana, I wanna be like you when I grow up. Thina sohlulwa nayiEnglish yiyo le yenza sifreeze 🥹

  • @harambear9592
    @harambear9592 Місяць тому +2

    I think this was your warning meeting with Janet and Gezi.