Now that you know how MIDI In, Out, and Thru work, what are some of the creative ways you can think of to connect your electronic instruments? Let us know in the comments, and check out more keyboard and synthesizer lessons here 👉 ua-cam.com/play/PLlczpwSXEOybFzNBWKH-43gw_c4qWLv7s.html
All these years I've been so wrong... I've been playing with MIDI since 1990, and I ALWAYS thought that THRU was everything In and ALSO what was generated Locally. I had no idea it was ONLY a copy of what came in, unless specified otherwise. I'm remembering some troubleshooting sessions where I literally was pulling my hair out and eventually gave up. This is probably why... Well, you live, you learn...eventually.
Midi Thru I've found to be the key to daisy chaining and MPE controllers. I take 5 behringer synths (two Neutrons, a CAT, a Pro-1 and a Model D) and set them to channels 1 thru 5. I take my Roli Seaboard Rise 49 and set it to Multi Channel Mode, using channels 1 thru 5. If I set them all to pitch bend an octave and set the Roli to an octave bend range, I have a 5 voice BEM (with similar voicings of course) where each BEM can independently pitch bend. Works the same if your sound module is multi-tibmral in a similar function. Set 8 slots in my old TG-33 and I have a Poly AT receptive and Poly pitch bending TG-33.
Thank you for all your great videos. A few questions: 1/ does it mean that you cannot daisy chain if most of your keyboards have only in/out but not through? 2/ About midi channel, is there anything to set? 3/ how to prevent midi in/out to switch the program on the receiver keyboard when you switch it on the controlling keyboard?
Hi alain. 1/ If your synths don't have a MIDI Thru you can get a MIDI thru box that has one MIDI In and 2, 4, or 8 MIDI Thru jacks: www.sweetwater.com/store/manufacturer/MIDI_Solutions 2/ You need to make sure that the device with the MIDI Out is on the same MIDI Channel as the device with the MIDI In. 3/ Some synths have settings that choose what they transmit or don't transmit via MIDI. Some synths have settings that choose what they receive or don't receive via MIDI. If neither do, you can use a box called a MIDI Event Processor (see link above). -_Daniel_
Thanks for this, got an Irig midi 2 from Amazon and I'm currently figuring the ins and outs of a roland td4 ekit and a Yamaha keyboard. Kids are awestruck, all our minds are blown. Thanks for explaining what that 'thru' port does 😂😂😂😂
Do the MIDI cables in and out pass MIDI and audio information, or do you have to connect multiple 1/4 inch lines from each device you're using into line inputs in the interface you're using? I'm assuming since it's MIDI the audio isn't transfered through them.
Hi KidNovaDaHitMaker. There's never any audio in a 5-pin MIDI connection. Some devices allow audio over USB along with MIDI data, but again, only some. -_Daniel_
I cannot figure out how to connect my Roland Juno DS and my Korg Wavestate to where I can have both play their sounds separately,, They only have Midi in and out
Good. Now you introduce the fact some equipment makers decided to put ‘consumer-friendly’ labels on MIDI sockets, so it was ‘clearer’ a MIDI out, should be connected here. So they labelled MIDI IN as in fact, a MIDI OUT, because that’s meant to be easier for a consumer. In other words, the consumer could just connect the ‘out’ of their keyboard or computer, to the socket marked ‘OUT’ on the device to be connected. So it was just ‘out’ goes to ‘out’. But I think we can agree this is not in fact helpful. There’s also early stuff, the fact some kit worked if chained up in a certain order, but not otherwise. I imagine, all these 1980’s teething issues have settled down by now (I hope). Thanks for your take on clarifying it.
Now that you know how MIDI In, Out, and Thru work, what are some of the creative ways you can think of to connect your electronic instruments? Let us know in the comments, and check out more keyboard and synthesizer lessons here 👉 ua-cam.com/play/PLlczpwSXEOybFzNBWKH-43gw_c4qWLv7s.html
i had a MIDI handbook that friend from the UK gave back in the 90's and that open up a whole new world for me with MIDI
Best explanation i have ever heard on midi. After all these years now i understand. Thank you.
You're one of the best music teachers in the world.
This is an excellent midi tutorial video that solved a part I didn't know.
All these years I've been so wrong...
I've been playing with MIDI since 1990, and I ALWAYS thought that THRU was everything In and ALSO what was generated Locally. I had no idea it was ONLY a copy of what came in, unless specified otherwise. I'm remembering some troubleshooting sessions where I literally was pulling my hair out and eventually gave up. This is probably why... Well, you live, you learn...eventually.
Midi Thru I've found to be the key to daisy chaining and MPE controllers. I take 5 behringer synths (two Neutrons, a CAT, a Pro-1 and a Model D) and set them to channels 1 thru 5. I take my Roli Seaboard Rise 49 and set it to Multi Channel Mode, using channels 1 thru 5. If I set them all to pitch bend an octave and set the Roli to an octave bend range, I have a 5 voice BEM (with similar voicings of course) where each BEM can independently pitch bend. Works the same if your sound module is multi-tibmral in a similar function. Set 8 slots in my old TG-33 and I have a Poly AT receptive and Poly pitch bending TG-33.
Thank you for all your great videos.
A few questions:
1/ does it mean that you cannot daisy chain if most of your keyboards have only in/out but not through?
2/ About midi channel, is there anything to set?
3/ how to prevent midi in/out to switch the program on the receiver keyboard when you switch it on the controlling keyboard?
Hi alain.
1/ If your synths don't have a MIDI Thru you can get a MIDI thru box that has one MIDI In and 2, 4, or 8 MIDI Thru jacks:
www.sweetwater.com/store/manufacturer/MIDI_Solutions
2/ You need to make sure that the device with the MIDI Out is on the same MIDI Channel as the device with the MIDI In.
3/ Some synths have settings that choose what they transmit or don't transmit via MIDI. Some synths have settings that choose what they receive or don't receive via MIDI. If neither do, you can use a box called a MIDI Event Processor (see link above).
-_Daniel_
@@sweetwater thanks a lot Daniel ...do you think Arturia BSP or KSP would be a better option ? are they easy to program?
and BSP is not that much expansive than a MIDI event processor and does many other things in addition
Thanks for this, got an Irig midi 2 from Amazon and I'm currently figuring the ins and outs of a roland td4 ekit and a Yamaha keyboard.
Kids are awestruck, all our minds are blown.
Thanks for explaining what that 'thru' port does 😂😂😂😂
Awesome video! Love these quick lessons you guys have been doing.👏🏾
love that Hydrasynth
Very helpful as always, Mr. Fisher.
just when i needed this
Great explanation! Thank you.
Planning a midi solution for 4+ synths, several MIDI controllers and effects pedals, plus MIDI guitar. Hmm...
Do the MIDI cables in and out pass MIDI and audio information, or do you have to connect multiple 1/4 inch lines from each device you're using into line inputs in the interface you're using? I'm assuming since it's MIDI the audio isn't transfered through them.
Hi KidNovaDaHitMaker. There's never any audio in a 5-pin MIDI connection. Some devices allow audio over USB along with MIDI data, but again, only some. -_Daniel_
That's a lot of really good information! And a great video too, thanks for sharing 🤘
Much more clear than other posts
Excellent. What about MIDI merge and Thru boxes? How do you manage MIDI channels per device. I’ve always set my drum machines to channel 10.
I cannot figure out how to connect my Roland Juno DS and my Korg Wavestate to where I can have both play their sounds separately,, They only have Midi in and out
Good. Now you introduce the fact some equipment makers decided to put ‘consumer-friendly’ labels on MIDI sockets, so it was ‘clearer’ a MIDI out, should be connected here. So they labelled MIDI IN as in fact, a MIDI OUT, because that’s meant to be easier for a consumer. In other words, the consumer could just connect the ‘out’ of their keyboard or computer, to the socket marked ‘OUT’ on the device to be connected. So it was just ‘out’ goes to ‘out’. But I think we can agree this is not in fact helpful. There’s also early stuff, the fact some kit worked if chained up in a certain order, but not otherwise. I imagine, all these 1980’s teething issues have settled down by now (I hope). Thanks for your take on clarifying it.
is says what it does on the bleeding tin, in! out!, thru! which is a copy of in right??
good jiob i was right on something that was technology out 40 odd years ago lol : )
Why are some MIDI splitter boxes mains-powered?
Hi Dino Goldie. Some keyboards don't offer DC power from its MIDI connection, even though it's in the MIDI Spec. Thanks for watching! -_Daniel_
PLEASE MAKE A VIDEO ON ROLAND FANTOM 8
Can I do a midi handshake with midi through?
Brilliant.
Thx
Music can’t be explained especially electronic music
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