You're spot on with that. I think Steve, like all of us who are honest about what we're seeing...Shanahan is not an emotionally mature adult. His need to be the cool coach shows a lack of leadership...
Kyle will never admit especially to himself any of his wrongs. His whole life he has been told how amazing he is, from his dad's to his employers. Everyone blows smoke up his ass. You think he will admit the Falcons lost because his decisions were bad? Or the first SF superbow was lost because of him? Same with this prior years loss. He thinks throwing the ball when you are ahead is the best decision so you can pull ahead more. Don't run the ball to kill the clock, give your defense rest time, put the game on 1 persons shoulders. Commen sense tells you to run the ball 2 scores ahead. Especially when they are what got the points in the first place. Kyle's problem is he wants to be know for having this high flying bad ass 200yd deep passes. Instead his teams are built off the run. It's the backbone of his offenses. If the run game isn't working they are going to lose. Kyle can't admit that.
@Richard-gw2lr I see much of Mike Martz in him. Lots of arrogance, smarmy, devoid of true emotional connections to his players (except for the Cabo Crew - because they make him look "hip hop culture cool")...my final words: an emotionally immature man can not lead anyone. I know, I was an emotionally immature man for a long time. When you make the changes in self, then ppl start to take you seriously (but you have to become your own mature adult, take responsibility for your failures as much as your success, and be avaliable and willing to change, adapt and let go of baggage (Deebo, Juice, etc) that does not serve in a positive way.
I heard Jonnydel make a good point that it’s not that the plays themselves are different cuz everyone runs the same stuff for the most part, it’s that they don’t rep the plays in practice as much cuz they use their time focusing on the run and PA stuff. They need to prioritize the OL and drop back game this off season for sure
That means the QB is limited. Don't you think if Purdy can make those throws, they would be called? didn't have that problem when he had Ryan as his QB.
Nah Kyle is a top 10 OC all time it’s just since 2016 he’s never had a elite QB, 2 super bowls and 5 nfc championships w Jimmy G and Brock Purdy is insane
100% I can't remember where I posted this, but I've suggested that if JTO would be a great assistant, if Scamahan wasn't so in love with his own third-grade doodling of the playbook.
Yes I think 1/2 of our draft picks especially round 1 and 2 needs to be OL right and left tackles. Then 3rd round pick on Center. The 4th round and on can be TE and DL.
@@kevinb3307 in what universe is the o line not bad? Jake brendel was literally ranked 40th out of 40 starting centers a few weeks ago. Not sure where he is now but that means that at that time 8 backup centers were playing better then him. Banks and mckivitz are also horrible
You think Shanahan is a fool? Lol. You people got some wild takes, that is for sure. One down season (riddled with injuries) and the pitchforks come out..... it's hilarious if not so sad...........
@ Here we go,I think he’s a really good coach,but his stubbornness and arrogance his downfall.To him his system is perfect and he won’t change or play the right people.He keeps trying to get his buddy Deebo going to the point of it’s hurting the team.I been a 49ers fan since before Montana was playing.I don’t hate Kyle just wish he could see outside of himself.That’s what I mean if you don’t like that,sorry tough guy!
@@Shredsofeden First off I'm not a "tough guy", I'm a longtime fan who knows how hard winning in this league is. Do you realize this is a multi-billion dollar industry that has 31 other franchises, all of whom want to win just as bad as we do? it's like some of our fans think it's their birthright to have SB rings delivered. Shanahan has flaws, and I'll be the first to admit it. He's going to need to reinvent our offense to some degree this offseason. That said, what he and Lynch have built is nothing short of phenomenal. The consistency this team has in making deep playoff runs is insane.............. with Jimmy freaking G and a 7th-round draft pick at QB. You're quick to point out all the things you feel Shanahan does wrong (and that's fair) but you don't even touch on all the things he does right....... that have led us to 4 of the last 5 NFCCGs and 2 SBs. You think that happened magically? That's Shanahan who did that. Shanahan and Lynch. He deserves a chance to grow and become better just like players do. He just turned 45. Do you realize how young that is? This last Februrary, he was coaching in OT of a Super Bowl. We have a down year because we've been riddled with key injuries, and now he's a stubborn mule who can do no right? If winning SBs was so easy, why has no team since 2018, with the sole exception of the '21 Rams (once), done it who didn't have Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes as their QB? Other than the 2021 Rams, every other ring was won by those two QBs. It's really hard to win SBs in the modern NFL. Not sure what else to say.
@@Shredsofeden I bet you’ve been called a bandwagon fan by newer “faithful” fans. One of them bragged he started following the Niners in the Singletary years… I became a Niners fan in time to see them win SB 16. There’s nothing wrong with being a realist. I’d rather be a realist than be a “Faithful”…
You summed it up perfectly, the 49ers offense if based on Kyle’s game planning and now that the game has caught up with him, we need game changing players.
@@Richard-gw2lryup called us names for not praising kyle now he is too scared to even say anything this is why mainstream media took a dive and apparently larry wants to dive with kyle in 365 days he will be echoing this watch
Well he doesn’t run outside right And he doesn’t do slant routes a lot. Deebo in the backfield is a sweep yes to the left . Rb will run middle n lean to the left more often If they run outside it 9/10 going to be outside left, What do they have .? Slant n curl routes and pounding the ball middle over n over with outside left thrown in. What about their defense. Double bosa or put a te or fb to disrupt him . And throw it deep Cb’s suck or prone to pi just keep testing them over n over n over , U will win 🤷🏾♂️
I agree. Shanahan shouldn’t be cut, but he needs to go back to the drawing board and come up with a new plan. If there is any truth to the “offensive genius” monicker he should be able
This will never happen in order for Kyle to "reinvent" himself he would need to admit that his methods are flawed. Which he's never done, he's never taken accountability in any form, or admitted areas he can be better. He's just blamed players and everything else but himself...
Hard pass. Real fans know how hard it is to land a great coach. Any team without Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady has ONE SB Ring since 2018 (2021 Rams). That's it. Every other season since 2018, it's been Mahomes or the team Brady was on. IT's hard to win the SB. The fact Shanahan almost beat KC and Mahomes with Jimmy freaking G is a testament to how good of a coach he is. Feel free to find a new team though. Maybe KC would suit you?
@@user-xnr Stats say it all. Kyle Shanahan stacked up against a REAL SB caliber coach. Kyle Shanahan 49ers 70-59 (.543) Andy Reid Chiefs 258-145-1 (.641) Sean McVay Rams,70-45 (.609). John Harbaugh Ravens, 160-99 (.618). Mike Tomlin Steelers,173-100-2 (.633) Matt LaFleur Packers,56-27 (.675) Sean McDermott Bills, 73-41 (.640). Sean Payton Broncos, 160-98 (.620). Mike McCarthy Cowboys 167-102-2 (.620). Nick Sirianni Eagles 34-17 (.667).
I lost faith in Kyle when he blamed everyone but himself for the overtime debacle in the Super Bowl last year. You’re the head coach Kyle. Everything is your fault. Nothing is gonna change until he looks within
Kyle doesn't trust Cowing in his complicated pre-snap offense. But it doesn't have to be that complicated. What would be so awful about saying, "Jacob, go run a post." The only risk is that Brock might underthrow him, and it gets intercepted. But even if Brock overthrows him, at least it would stretch the defense.
I’ve been telling my buddy who is a Packers fan that this is what Kyle needs to do for like the last two months!! And I use Andy Reid as an example!! Steve’s left-handed I’m left-handed!
Being a lifetime rams fan the 9ers don't need to reinvent themselves. They have a laundry list of injuries and that would take its toll on any team. I can tell you first hand the rams started 1-4 because their entire Oline was on short term IR. talking heads know jack about running a franchise
This is the best diagnosis of the 49er offense I’ve heard this year. The top teams now have speed and really good offensive lines. This is what happens : defenses figure out offenses and then OC’s need to reinvent their schemes and personnel to out scheme defenses. Also it would be wonderful if Shanahan would value Special Teams as an equal to Offense and Defense. When was the last time the 49ers ST’s made any kind of a positive significant contribution ?
So because the 49ers have 80% of their offense injured, their coach, who was just in the Super Bowl, should reinvent himself? We live in such an idiotic, reactionary society.
Steve is absolutely right Kyle's still tryna call plays from 2020 the league has caught up all that cute shit you were calling 5 years ago ain't working anymore the league figured it out same thing with our Seattle cover 3 there's a reason pete Carroll's gone the league has caught up to scheme on both sides
This team went from a Super Bowl favorite to a dumpster fire according to these guys…. sounds like temper tantrum from a baby who didn’t get what they expected. 😢
Hey, Steve, not counting Shanahan, their are 30 other Head coaches who have not won the big game for the last two years...Do they also need to reinvent themselfs? Winning a SB is not a given, even for the best coaches...
More than a QB LOL. Lets compare Shanny to other coaches 😂... Kyle Shanahan 49ers 70-59 (.543) Andy Reid Chiefs 258-145-1 (.641) Sean McVay Rams,70-45 (.609). John Harbaugh Ravens, 160-99 (.618). Mike Tomlin Steelers,173-100-2 (.633) Matt LaFleur Packers,56-27 (.675) Sean McDermott Bills, 73-41 (.640). Sean Payton Broncos, 160-98 (.620). Mike McCarthy Cowboys 167-102-2 (.620). Nick Sirianni Eagles 34-17 (.667).
Doing what the rest of the leguge is doing is not the answer. It is easy to find players than to create a new system that is coherent and works for all situations. Kyle's "bad" offense is still top 5 in the leauge. Find players who can actually get open an a O line and your fine
Yeah, maybe for this season. It's not "indefensible" for what he's accomplished since joining the Niners. We're decimated by injuries this season. Even if we made the playoffs, it ain't our year. Bad seasons happen. No other team besides KC has had the success we've had since 2019. Learn to deal with disappointment. Firing Shanahan would be the single dumbest thing this organization's ever done. Fortunately, I think York knows what he's doing and would never listen to fans for advice on who should be HC.
I've been saying this since last year. Deebo and JJ can't separate, Deebo isn't a RB and you need Ricky, Brandon and George to separate, Christian to run and catch 80% of the time and the other RBs playing 20% of the time.
Ownership is ass-backwards. Instead of encouraging players like saying, "If you" and then put an incentive behind it, they're deciding to pay these selfish players up front and waiting for results later to happen. That result was a costly injury. Now you're on the hook for damaged goods. How are they going to encourage players to play for something to stride for? Now if they won the SB, then it makes more sense to pay the guy and then keep them around for the next run at another championship. The minute Aiyuk listened and got onboard with his own GF's ranting, it changed his mindset and created a huge disruption and distraction from the ultimate goal and that is to get back to the SB and try to win it again. That selfish gesture created the bad karma and only amplified the bad vibes coming from that SB loss. Team should have traded his ass and shipped him off to another team. The season and goal to get back to SB and this time try to win it did not revolve around this guy. As for Coach Shanahan, if he is the offensive guru that everyone is talking about, then we can only imagine that his offensive schemes should work for any player he plugs in there. I don't see this happening from game to game. As for our next NFL draft, move-up to the top 15, grab that OT Jonah Savaiinaea from Arizona, use the 2nd pick on either a 2nd OL, DT/DE or more importantly, a CB. Once you get 3 players that have been scouted well, this should help the team get back on the right track. Sign a FA WR if you need some speed for plays that require someone running downfield or even breaking away from defenders on crossing-routes. Bring back stability to the defensive side. The Sorensen experiment has to end at season's end. Bring back Sully if possible and allow him to reinforce the morale on the defensive side. He is the leader that the defense will play for. If the team wants to shore-up that DE position, they should look into replicating their own strategy when they used to sign older, veteran DE's who were in their mid-late 30s. Khalil Mack sounds like a solid pick here.
I said that some months ago. The NFL has some very sharp defensive minds and, clearly, have already figured out how to defend against Shanahan’s offense. His stubborn reluctance to changing his play schemes has cost the team. Not sure how you can get it through to him that his offensive tactics are no longer fruitful and need a major overhaul.
Young is 100% correct about Shanahan but Shanahan cannot and will not "reinvent himself" if he does not recognise and acknowledge his failings as the HC and OC.
There are lot of issues at play here. 1. The OL, Kyle favours Olineman who are better at run blocking than pass protection. But Kyle abandons his gameplan too often which exposes the players pass blocking deficiencies. 2. Too many holdouts (CMC, Trent, Aiyuk). All of them are injured now. 3. Teams know what the 49ers strengths are so they gameplan. Kyle is too stubborn to adjust his philosophy. He needs an OC to run the offense and a DC to run the defense.
It was(is) very evident that most of these teams have caught on with his play calling. Offensive line is trash, other than Puni. No receiver seperation. And as much as I like Brack, and think he is a very good QB, he isn't good enough to elevate his players when things get tough. I wouldn't give up on him at all but they must address their OL and get some spped at WR.
Other teams only have to honor speed if they feel the QB can make the throw. If they know his arm is too weak to hit guys in stride they won’t play us any different
I’ll say it again Larry after every game Montana said that Walsh would have 20 new players for the following game that they’d have to learn that week that’s how you reinvent yourself
WHY DON'T WE BRING IN STEVE YOUNG INTO THE FRONT OFFICE?....Hes the only guy familiar with our OLD WINNING WAYS. I mentioned this on that Dieter kids live show and he almost had a baby like I didn;t know what I was talking about.
Coming into the season when players are saying things like "you have to climb the mountain again" or "It's a long year" you could tell it was the wrong mindset. They all figured they could get healthy and then they'd be able to find that next gear again late in the season but it just didn't happen. It was too late.
The only way kyle will change which forces you to adjust and adapt is if you relinquish some of his control it's more so a serving of humble pie to his ego
We loss a large amount of brain trust in the last 3 years with coaches McDaniel Salah Ryans slowic kubuiak Kyle has to do a lot by himself and it is spreading him thin and you see that on the field with game planning he needs to find new coaches that he can trust and delegate responsibilities to
Instead of "reinvent" himself, Shanahan needs to evolve his offensive scheme into the new NFL offensive culture. Passing game is what teams are require to win games and run games is just to sustain the lead at scoreboard.
I haven’t heard better advice on how the Niners can get past this season and get back to their dominant form. The injuries were the biggest problem this year. But the way shanahan handled the play calling and the personnel decisions was just lacking in nuance and creativity that was what made them the team they were in past seasons. This whole year was just an example of what a burnt out coach looks like when he’s trying to manage the team. I really hope he can get his shit together and bring something new to the table next year to make things more productive and elevated on the field for the players to execute
Some are capable of reinventing and some aren't or not willing because of ego. Bananahans is the later. It's time to overhaul the HC position and front office and rebuild this old and slow team.
Unfortunately Kyle is hard headed and probably still won’t address the O line. So it’ll probably be more of the same and as usual blame Brock and everyone else. And people will still be well Kyle is great coach.
I believe that Kyle will promote or bring in an offensive coordinator in the vein of Mike McDaniel. As far as defensive coordinator, there are 2 schools of thought. 1) bring in someone like Robert Saleh. Or 2) let Sorenson develop as a defensive play caller. Robert and Demeco both had trouble their first year but grew exponentially in year 2. We have a proven track record of developing coaching talent. I know that Nick’s inexperience has been an issue this year
The Niners have been a power-running offense for the past 6 years with solid defense considered to be the best or near the top of all NFL teams. If your going to “reinvent” this team basic scheme and strategies the first thing you have to do is identify what are the reasons that have caused the failure this year. I think more than anything else is the quality of both the offensive and defensive lines, especially the offense. The second is the injuries and aging of certain players.
It has amazed me that over the last 7 yrs Shanahan has not been able to draft and develop a really good QB . He coached one side of the college North VS South or whatever its called and Mahomes was the opposing QB - where Shanahan got an up close view of Mahomes, who played well and displayed some of the traits that he now excels in and Shanahan could have drafted him that year. The best QB drafted by the 49ers has been Purdy- and thats because another coach on the team recommended him and what the heck not much to lose because its the last pick in the draft.
We have been saying Shanahan is a big (but not all) part of the problem, and Krueg RARELY agrees..yet he seems to “rant” about Shanahan often. 🙄 Krueg is a 49er shill. He always makes excuses for them but rants like today..never mind the fact that he has access to the players and coaches yet RARELY brings up the topics like in this video to them!😡🙄
I’ve told my friends this aswell that Kyle relies to much on play action, and run after catch, great concepts and playcaller but there drop back game is there weakness, BUT it is kinda a rebuild year every team has there 2-3 year before injuries trades and just defense evolving to how you play and u have to rebuild and unless u got a top 5 quarterback who can do more w less you’ll have seasons like this
You can't reinvent without an imagination. Kyle will need to have an off-season of imagination. Find out what the strengths and weaknesses of his offense are, then imagine up schemes to strengthen strengthen the weak plays by imagining what scheme to run versus each defense individually.
You can look at the receivers on any playoff team and compare them to the Niners receivers. With the exception of Jennings, the Niners have slow, low energy rubber fingered B listers.
Its crazy bc Brock had been one of the best against all types of defense the first 2 years. I don't think it's his issue entirely. Definitely need better plays against man and weapons need to do better also. It's everything as a whole, not just Brock
You cannot reinvent until you realize that reinventing is necessary and you take ownership and accountability...🤓🧐🤓
You're spot on with that. I think Steve, like all of us who are honest about what we're seeing...Shanahan is not an emotionally mature adult. His need to be the cool coach shows a lack of leadership...
What problem
Kyle will never admit especially to himself any of his wrongs. His whole life he has been told how amazing he is, from his dad's to his employers. Everyone blows smoke up his ass. You think he will admit the Falcons lost because his decisions were bad? Or the first SF superbow was lost because of him? Same with this prior years loss. He thinks throwing the ball when you are ahead is the best decision so you can pull ahead more. Don't run the ball to kill the clock, give your defense rest time, put the game on 1 persons shoulders. Commen sense tells you to run the ball 2 scores ahead. Especially when they are what got the points in the first place. Kyle's problem is he wants to be know for having this high flying bad ass 200yd deep passes. Instead his teams are built off the run. It's the backbone of his offenses. If the run game isn't working they are going to lose. Kyle can't admit that.
@Richard-gw2lr I see much of Mike Martz in him. Lots of arrogance, smarmy, devoid of true emotional connections to his players (except for the Cabo Crew - because they make him look "hip hop culture cool")...my final words: an emotionally immature man can not lead anyone. I know, I was an emotionally immature man for a long time. When you make the changes in self, then ppl start to take you seriously (but you have to become your own mature adult, take responsibility for your failures as much as your success, and be avaliable and willing to change, adapt and let go of baggage (Deebo, Juice, etc) that does not serve in a positive way.
@deanporter5882 that's why martz isn't in the league
Steve Young hit it right on the nail 💯
Amen- Steve is 100% correct. Teams can’t win when their top guys hold out and are not physically ready to stay healthy
JT O’Sullivan has been talking about Kyle’s passing game limitations for a couple years now.
I heard Jonnydel make a good point that it’s not that the plays themselves are different cuz everyone runs the same stuff for the most part, it’s that they don’t rep the plays in practice as much cuz they use their time focusing on the run and PA stuff. They need to prioritize the OL and drop back game this off season for sure
Yea kyle is outdated and holding the team back
That means the QB is limited. Don't you think if Purdy can make those throws, they would be called? didn't have that problem when he had Ryan as his QB.
Nah Kyle is a top 10 OC all time it’s just since 2016 he’s never had a elite QB, 2 super bowls and 5 nfc championships w Jimmy G and Brock Purdy is insane
100% I can't remember where I posted this, but I've suggested that if JTO would be a great assistant, if Scamahan wasn't so in love with his own third-grade doodling of the playbook.
Well one thing that can absolutely help is prioritizing the offensive line.
Yes I think 1/2 of our draft picks especially round 1 and 2 needs to be OL right and left tackles. Then 3rd round pick on Center. The 4th round and on can be TE and DL.
Facts
Need a center left guard right tackle
The oline is not that bad.
Maybe your golden boy Purdy is not that good.
@@kevinb3307 in what universe is the o line not bad? Jake brendel was literally ranked 40th out of 40 starting centers a few weeks ago. Not sure where he is now but that means that at that time 8 backup centers were playing better then him. Banks and mckivitz are also horrible
And he and John need to start valuing the OL
The first step in overcoming a problem is acknowledging you have one.
A man who will not admit his mistakes,cannot learn from them.
That man is called a fool,men won’t follow fools!
You think Shanahan is a fool? Lol.
You people got some wild takes, that is for sure. One down season (riddled with injuries) and the pitchforks come out..... it's hilarious if not so sad...........
@ Here we go,I think he’s a really good coach,but his stubbornness and arrogance his downfall.To him his system is perfect and he won’t change or play the right people.He keeps trying to get his buddy Deebo going to the point of it’s hurting the team.I been a 49ers fan since before Montana was playing.I don’t hate Kyle just wish he could see outside of himself.That’s what I mean if you don’t like that,sorry tough guy!
@@Shredsofeden First off I'm not a "tough guy", I'm a longtime fan who knows how hard winning in this league is.
Do you realize this is a multi-billion dollar industry that has 31 other franchises, all of whom want to win just as bad as we do?
it's like some of our fans think it's their birthright to have SB rings delivered.
Shanahan has flaws, and I'll be the first to admit it. He's going to need to reinvent our offense to some degree this offseason.
That said, what he and Lynch have built is nothing short of phenomenal. The consistency this team has in making deep playoff runs is insane.............. with Jimmy freaking G and a 7th-round draft pick at QB.
You're quick to point out all the things you feel Shanahan does wrong (and that's fair) but you don't even touch on all the things he does right....... that have led us to 4 of the last 5 NFCCGs and 2 SBs. You think that happened magically? That's Shanahan who did that. Shanahan and Lynch. He deserves a chance to grow and become better just like players do. He just turned 45. Do you realize how young that is?
This last Februrary, he was coaching in OT of a Super Bowl. We have a down year because we've been riddled with key injuries, and now he's a stubborn mule who can do no right?
If winning SBs was so easy, why has no team since 2018, with the sole exception of the '21 Rams (once), done it who didn't have Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes as their QB? Other than the 2021 Rams, every other ring was won by those two QBs.
It's really hard to win SBs in the modern NFL. Not sure what else to say.
@@Shredsofeden I bet you’ve been called a bandwagon fan by newer “faithful” fans. One of them bragged he started following the Niners in the Singletary years… I became a Niners fan in time to see them win SB 16. There’s nothing wrong with being a realist. I’d rather be a realist than be a “Faithful”…
You summed it up perfectly, the 49ers offense if based on Kyle’s game planning and now that the game has caught up with him, we need game changing players.
I played high school football and I could predict 85 percent of an offensive genius’s plays. Does that make me a defensive guru?
😂
To Larry wack ass Krueger it does
Lol. I've decided Larry knows about as much football as an average fan. That's all.
@@Richard-gw2lryup called us names for not praising kyle now he is too scared to even say anything this is why mainstream media took a dive and apparently larry wants to dive with kyle in 365 days he will be echoing this watch
Well he doesn’t run outside right
And he doesn’t do slant routes a lot.
Deebo in the backfield is a sweep yes to the left .
Rb will run middle n lean to the left more often
If they run outside it 9/10 going to be outside left,
What do they have .?
Slant n curl routes and pounding the ball middle over n over with outside left thrown in.
What about their defense.
Double bosa or put a te or fb to disrupt him .
And throw it deep
Cb’s suck or prone to pi just keep testing them over n over n over ,
U will win 🤷🏾♂️
Wasnt larry calling us names because kyle was so perfect lately....
I agree. Shanahan shouldn’t be cut, but he needs to go back to the drawing board and come up with a new plan. If there is any truth to the “offensive genius” monicker he should be able
Traded is better for all his mistakes
@@DEPORTKYLE Yeah, most teams not named KC would love all the "mistakes" we've had over the last 5 years.
What are you talking about?
This will never happen in order for Kyle to "reinvent" himself he would need to admit that his methods are flawed. Which he's never done, he's never taken accountability in any form, or admitted areas he can be better. He's just blamed players and everything else but himself...
8:40 trying to blame the players again. You’re sad! Coach drafted these players and slower players could separate if they were coached right.
If kyle is a genius why is he playing slow lazy people? Lol starts with him get someone who knows that
He can go reinvent somewhere else.
Hard pass. Real fans know how hard it is to land a great coach. Any team without Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady has ONE SB Ring since 2018 (2021 Rams).
That's it. Every other season since 2018, it's been Mahomes or the team Brady was on.
IT's hard to win the SB. The fact Shanahan almost beat KC and Mahomes with Jimmy freaking G is a testament to how good of a coach he is.
Feel free to find a new team though. Maybe KC would suit you?
@@user-xnr Stats say it all. Kyle Shanahan stacked up against a REAL SB caliber coach.
Kyle Shanahan
49ers 70-59 (.543)
Andy Reid
Chiefs 258-145-1 (.641)
Sean McVay
Rams,70-45 (.609).
John Harbaugh
Ravens, 160-99 (.618).
Mike Tomlin
Steelers,173-100-2 (.633)
Matt LaFleur
Packers,56-27 (.675)
Sean McDermott
Bills, 73-41 (.640).
Sean Payton
Broncos, 160-98 (.620).
Mike McCarthy
Cowboys 167-102-2 (.620).
Nick Sirianni
Eagles 34-17 (.667).
Who reinvents themselves at the same location?
Love your analysis Larry
Bad drafting have destroyed the 49ers, bad player development. 49ers window is closed for the next 3yeard
I lost faith in Kyle when he blamed everyone but himself for the overtime debacle in the Super Bowl last year. You’re the head coach Kyle. Everything is your fault. Nothing is gonna change until he looks within
Larry is full of it. He has been praising kyle all season. They all do at knbr and at 95.7 . Kyle is very much a problem
The players have lost sight of the Super Bowl and have shifted their eyes to themselves. It’s over
Steve Young should be their next coach, I'll vouch for it, he has the heart for it for sure
Totally agree with everything this show has mentioned!
We need some speed and game planning to take advantage of it.
100% facts!!!!! Steve is so right!!!!!
Kyle doesn't trust Cowing in his complicated pre-snap offense. But it doesn't have to be that complicated. What would be so awful about saying, "Jacob, go run a post."
The only risk is that Brock might underthrow him, and it gets intercepted. But even if Brock overthrows him, at least it would stretch the defense.
I’ve been telling my buddy who is a Packers fan that this is what Kyle needs to do for like the last two months!! And I use Andy Reid as an example!!
Steve’s left-handed I’m left-handed!
I just don't see Kyle making the changes that this team needs because you can't pay Brock Purdy 50 million and this team needs rebuilding.
But Purdy is worth 50 million.
Being a lifetime rams fan the 9ers don't need to reinvent themselves. They have a laundry list of injuries and that would take its toll on any team. I can tell you first hand the rams started 1-4 because their entire Oline was on short term IR. talking heads know jack about running a franchise
This is the best diagnosis of the 49er offense I’ve heard this year. The top teams now have speed and really good offensive lines. This is what happens : defenses figure out offenses and then OC’s need to reinvent their schemes and personnel to out scheme defenses. Also it would be wonderful if Shanahan would value Special Teams as an equal to Offense and Defense. When was the last time the 49ers ST’s made any kind of a positive significant contribution ?
The speed issue brings up the question as to whether or not Purdy can even throw deep. Not 50/50 floaters, but the deep ball with velocity.
So because the 49ers have 80% of their offense injured, their coach, who was just in the Super Bowl, should reinvent himself?
We live in such an idiotic, reactionary society.
Kyle did reinvent himself...the 49ers use to be a run smash mouth team now we are soft and finesse
Yeah he needs to unreinvent himself and go back to what worked. Physical, hit you in the mouth football
@@mkdub9600he needs to get out of here and stop embarrassing us
@@DEPORTKYLE You're embarrassing yourself
Hard to reinvent himself when all his divas are skipping training camp
@ClutchGene It's true. It's this new gen of players who don't appreciate shit and feel overly entitled. Selfishness is huge here
Steve is absolutely right Kyle's still tryna call plays from 2020 the league has caught up all that cute shit you were calling 5 years ago ain't working anymore the league figured it out same thing with our Seattle cover 3 there's a reason pete Carroll's gone the league has caught up to scheme on both sides
This team went from a Super Bowl favorite to a dumpster fire according to these guys….
sounds like temper tantrum from a baby who didn’t get what they expected. 😢
Hey, Steve, not counting Shanahan, their are 30 other Head coaches who have not won the big game for the last two years...Do they also need to reinvent themselfs? Winning a SB is not a given, even for the best coaches...
Krueg never lets people talk.
The difference between shanahan and andy reid is the qb. Reid has always been the screen king since the philly days.
More than a QB LOL. Lets compare Shanny to other coaches 😂...
Kyle Shanahan
49ers 70-59 (.543)
Andy Reid
Chiefs 258-145-1 (.641)
Sean McVay
Rams,70-45 (.609).
John Harbaugh
Ravens, 160-99 (.618).
Mike Tomlin
Steelers,173-100-2 (.633)
Matt LaFleur
Packers,56-27 (.675)
Sean McDermott
Bills, 73-41 (.640).
Sean Payton
Broncos, 160-98 (.620).
Mike McCarthy
Cowboys 167-102-2 (.620).
Nick Sirianni
Eagles 34-17 (.667).
Doing what the rest of the leguge is doing is not the answer. It is easy to find players than to create a new system that is coherent and works for all situations. Kyle's "bad" offense is still top 5 in the leauge. Find players who can actually get open an a O line and your fine
They lead by 10 in all 3 losses to division teams early and blew them all that's undefendable
Yeah, maybe for this season. It's not "indefensible" for what he's accomplished since joining the Niners. We're decimated by injuries this season. Even if we made the playoffs, it ain't our year.
Bad seasons happen. No other team besides KC has had the success we've had since 2019. Learn to deal with disappointment.
Firing Shanahan would be the single dumbest thing this organization's ever done. Fortunately, I think York knows what he's doing and would never listen to fans for advice on who should be HC.
I've been saying this since last year. Deebo and JJ can't separate, Deebo isn't a RB and you need Ricky, Brandon and George to separate, Christian to run and catch 80% of the time and the other RBs playing 20% of the time.
Ownership is ass-backwards. Instead of encouraging players like saying, "If you" and then put an incentive behind it, they're deciding to pay these selfish players up front and waiting for results later to happen. That result was a costly injury. Now you're on the hook for damaged goods.
How are they going to encourage players to play for something to stride for? Now if they won the SB, then it makes more sense to pay the guy and then keep them around for the next run at another championship. The minute Aiyuk listened and got onboard with his own GF's ranting, it changed his mindset and created a huge disruption and distraction from the ultimate goal and that is to get back to the SB and try to win it again. That selfish gesture created the bad karma and only amplified the bad vibes coming from that SB loss. Team should have traded his ass and shipped him off to another team. The season and goal to get back to SB and this time try to win it did not revolve around this guy.
As for Coach Shanahan, if he is the offensive guru that everyone is talking about, then we can only imagine that his offensive schemes should work for any player he plugs in there. I don't see this happening from game to game.
As for our next NFL draft, move-up to the top 15, grab that OT Jonah Savaiinaea from Arizona, use the 2nd pick on either a 2nd OL, DT/DE or more importantly, a CB. Once you get 3 players that have been scouted well, this should help the team get back on the right track. Sign a FA WR if you need some speed for plays that require someone running downfield or even breaking away from defenders on crossing-routes.
Bring back stability to the defensive side. The Sorensen experiment has to end at season's end. Bring back Sully if possible and allow him to reinforce the morale on the defensive side. He is the leader that the defense will play for.
If the team wants to shore-up that DE position, they should look into replicating their own strategy when they used to sign older, veteran DE's who were in their mid-late 30s. Khalil Mack sounds like a solid pick here.
I said that some months ago. The NFL has some very sharp defensive minds and, clearly, have already figured out how to defend against Shanahan’s offense. His stubborn reluctance to changing his play schemes has cost the team. Not sure how you can get it through to him that his offensive tactics are no longer fruitful and need a major overhaul.
Young is 100% correct about Shanahan but Shanahan cannot and will not "reinvent himself" if he does not recognise and acknowledge his failings as the HC and OC.
There are lot of issues at play here.
1. The OL, Kyle favours Olineman who are better at run blocking than pass protection. But Kyle abandons his gameplan too often which exposes the players pass blocking deficiencies.
2. Too many holdouts (CMC, Trent, Aiyuk). All of them are injured now.
3. Teams know what the 49ers strengths are so they gameplan. Kyle is too stubborn to adjust his philosophy. He needs an OC to run the offense and a DC to run the defense.
ALL Kyle’s fault! He drafts all the bad players.
It was(is) very evident that most of these teams have caught on with his play calling. Offensive line is trash, other than Puni. No receiver seperation. And as much as I like Brack, and think he is a very good QB, he isn't good enough to elevate his players when things get tough. I wouldn't give up on him at all but they must address their OL and get some spped at WR.
Imagine Steve young as the niners GM 😮
Other teams only have to honor speed if they feel the QB can make the throw. If they know his arm is too weak to hit guys in stride they won’t play us any different
We should be using Cowing 💯
Hit up the o cordinator from UNLV to run the gogo offense. 40 points a game. Run first, big plays
I’ll say it again Larry after every game Montana said that Walsh would have 20 new players for the following game that they’d have to learn that week that’s how you reinvent yourself
I meant plays
Dude, i keep saying this, and people think I'm tripping. The league is catching up to Kyle's offense.
WHY DON'T WE BRING IN STEVE YOUNG INTO THE FRONT OFFICE?....Hes the only guy familiar with our OLD WINNING WAYS. I mentioned this on that Dieter kids live show and he almost had a baby like I didn;t know what I was talking about.
Coming into the season when players are saying things like "you have to climb the mountain again" or "It's a long year" you could tell it was the wrong mindset. They all figured they could get healthy and then they'd be able to find that next gear again late in the season but it just didn't happen. It was too late.
The only way kyle will change which forces you to adjust and adapt is if you relinquish some of his control it's more so a serving of humble pie to his ego
We loss a large amount of brain trust in the last 3 years with coaches McDaniel Salah Ryans slowic kubuiak Kyle has to do a lot by himself and it is spreading him thin and you see that on the field with game planning he needs to find new coaches that he can trust and delegate responsibilities to
Kyle is a walking choke job. The only people who want him back are the people who are happy with participation trophies.
Instead of "reinvent" himself, Shanahan needs to evolve his offensive scheme into the new NFL offensive culture. Passing game is what teams are require to win games and run games is just to sustain the lead at scoreboard.
Think this is overaction to a season marred with injury
I haven’t heard better advice on how the Niners can get past this season and get back to their dominant form. The injuries were the biggest problem this year. But the way shanahan handled the play calling and the personnel decisions was just lacking in nuance and creativity that was what made them the team they were in past seasons. This whole year was just an example of what a burnt out coach looks like when he’s trying to manage the team.
I really hope he can get his shit together and bring something new to the table next year to make things more productive and elevated on the field for the players to execute
He pulled the center with Chris jones inside eye of the guard in the Super Bowl. Terrible play calling
Some are capable of reinventing and some aren't or not willing because of ego. Bananahans is the later. It's time to overhaul the HC position and front office and rebuild this old and slow team.
Unfortunately Kyle is hard headed and probably still won’t address the O line. So it’ll probably be more of the same and as usual blame Brock and everyone else. And people will still be well Kyle is great coach.
Kyle needs to bring in new coaching talent that will inspire
Needs to reinvent some new play calls and the no huttle and fix the offensive line.
Draft a Speedy WR in 3rd Round, and Sign TuTu Atwell as a Free Agent
Speed in the NFL is always in demand, but adding Renaldo Nehemiah back to the huddle isn't the answer.
I nominate Larry for 9er's draft consultant
I believe that Kyle will promote or bring in an offensive coordinator in the vein of Mike McDaniel.
As far as defensive coordinator, there are 2 schools of thought. 1) bring in someone like Robert Saleh. Or 2) let Sorenson develop as a defensive play caller. Robert and Demeco both had trouble their first year but grew exponentially in year 2. We have a proven track record of developing coaching talent. I know that Nick’s inexperience has been an issue this year
Purdy will be the top paid QB and carry the whole team next year
Never happen. He has never admitted of ever making a mistake. This will be depressing next year
The Niners have been a power-running offense for the past 6 years with solid defense considered to be the best or near the top of all NFL teams. If your going to “reinvent” this team basic scheme and strategies the first thing you have to do is identify what are the reasons that have caused the failure this year. I think more than anything else is the quality of both the offensive and defensive lines, especially the offense. The second is the injuries and aging of certain players.
Yes, reinvent yourself with a healthy roster 😂
KC isn’t experiencing a SB hangover…
It has amazed me that over the last 7 yrs Shanahan has not been able to draft and develop a really good QB . He coached one side of the college North VS South or whatever its called and Mahomes was the opposing QB - where Shanahan got an up close view of Mahomes, who played well and displayed some of the traits that he now excels in and Shanahan could have drafted him that year. The best QB drafted by the 49ers has been Purdy- and thats because another coach on the team recommended him and what the heck not much to lose because its the last pick in the draft.
We have been saying Shanahan is a big (but not all) part of the problem, and Krueg RARELY agrees..yet he seems to “rant” about Shanahan often. 🙄 Krueg is a 49er shill. He always makes excuses for them but rants like today..never mind the fact that he has access to the players and coaches yet RARELY brings up the topics like in this video to them!😡🙄
I’ve told my friends this aswell that Kyle relies to much on play action, and run after catch, great concepts and playcaller but there drop back game is there weakness, BUT it is kinda a rebuild year every team has there 2-3 year before injuries trades and just defense evolving to how you play and u have to rebuild and unless u got a top 5 quarterback who can do more w less you’ll have seasons like this
He does need to change. Look at McVay
Let Kyle come to the bears please.
Need to get Penn State’s TE if they don’t take an O lineman in the first round.
Lord help us. End of the month MNF against Detroit.
JORDAN MASON IS POWER
They should get second tightend that’s a threat recieiving and block.
Mason Taylor
Cowing would have to take Deebo’s spot, that’s why
You can't reinvent without an imagination. Kyle will need to have an off-season of imagination. Find out what the strengths and weaknesses of his offense are, then imagine up schemes to strengthen strengthen the weak plays by imagining what scheme to run versus each defense individually.
Larry you sound like you should be coaching! Why don't you apply for a coaching job with the 49ers!!
Reinvent the elimination of the injury
I THINK THE NINERS SHOULD LOOK INTO HERM EDWARDS AS DEFENSE COORDINATOR
their screwed cuz deebo nd BA is under contract 😂 😂😂😂
Kyle would never change he still will do everything he’s been doing. So wishful thinking.
A Purdy led offense. 🫣
Sorry Larry...did you invite Dieter on just for another pretty face? Dude.. he couldn't get a word in edgewise
Getting ready for games today (fantasy wise) it hit me even more that we're not going to the playoffs. Ugh.
You zone up speed and Man up slow recivers. This is why Aiyuk was needed He was the man buster. Deebo no separation.
You can look at the receivers on any playoff team and compare them to the Niners receivers. With the exception of Jennings, the Niners have slow, low energy rubber fingered B listers.
Its crazy bc Brock had been one of the best against all types of defense the first 2 years. I don't think it's his issue entirely. Definitely need better plays against man and weapons need to do better also. It's everything as a whole, not just Brock
1st down, run between the guard and tackle. It’s so freaking predictable and he’s been doing it for three years.
He’s regressing like his qb purdy
Stop making excuses for Purdy. The Oline is fine.
Keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting different result is just stupidity!