Combat aviation is not something that you taste for pleasure..., it's something that you live for! It's clear to me that only a passionate for aviation made this video! Great feeling of a wonder world!
@@abdulcasimovaleks6684 Да! По инструкции 17500. Но при облёте двигателя, после ремонта, набирается максимальная высота. Вот я и набрал 21 км. Были проблемы. Он там плохо реагирует на рули, к тому же, выше 18 км, по инструкции, только полный форсаж. Топливо тает на глазах, а форсаж выключать нельзя, пока не снизишься ниже 18 км, а на полном форсаж снижаться, значить превысить ограничение по скорости. Но я выкрутился и ни чего не превысил. Правда сёл с остатком менее 600 литров. 600 литров - это аварийный...
It is a good looking aircraft but the design concept and requirements were flawed. Would have been better if they continued to develop the Ye-8, the original Mig-23.
Requirements for most part - our command wanted it to be able to take off from shorter or damaged runways- hence the heavy wing angle-changing mechanism etc. But our engineers could took the best out of this concept with MLD and MiG-27K mods. MLD in right hands could outperform even MiG-29 in a dogfight - I mean training dogfights in 80's in Mary (Turkmenistan ) - which was our soviet Top Gun school. And yes - E-8 concept seems more promising looking from modern days - but we had the plane that we had and it performed better than MiG-21 (for our country - for some our customers it may have seemed other way) it is now also a part of our aviation history. To say more - it was intended to oppose Phantoms - wich it did quite well - and also having it in armed forces constantly upgrading gave enough confidence that our military would have arguments even facing gradual saturation of Western forces with F-15, F-14 and F-16. Meanwhile our constructors could finally work on their new designs MiG-29, Su-27 and MiG-31 more evenly - without unnecessary urge - knowing exact parameters of their adversaries :-)
@@user-ep6kh5iy7w hi, greetings from México!!! I dont know much obout aviation, but i'm always looking for cold war planes speacially the soviets ones. I've always wondered about the real performances of migs and su's due to here in América looks like we've been forced to eat occidental advertising. Perhaps You might share whit the entusiastics a little more info about this particular jet because here they only talk about how easy the IAF shooted down the mig like they were mosquitos, maybe you may have anothee data. Thanks.
@@santopiantado1161 Salut to Mexico! Concerning IAF statements I'd say with an old soviet anecdote: " Doctor, my neighbour is 60 just as myself, but he says he makes love with his wife four times every night! What can you advise? - Well, I can advise you to say the same..." Being serious, I'd say that it has always been IAF policy to never acknowledge their combat air losses. At first, I must admit that during the only major conflict in which MiG-23's took part - first days of Lebanon War in 1982 Syrian forces really lost 68 planes of all types, of which 12 were shot down by their own AA. Secondly, fighter modification of MiG-23's losses weren't too high - 4 MiG-23MF and 6 MiG-23MS. MiG-23's achieved five victories over IAF fighter planes mostly F-16's. So 1:2 isn't too bad concidering that Syrian air forces had to fight being in disadvantageous positions: IAF planes received targeting from Hawkeyes and could see every Syrian activity, while Syrian planes were flying into Unknown because they didn't have flying radars and mountains reduced abilities of their ground targeting and battle control below 3000m. Also Syrian MiG-23's were outnumbered - 24 MiG-23MF's against 115 IAF 4-th generation planes. Not too bad performance at all. MiG-23 (MF and ML) performed as it was meant to against equal opposition: F-4's, Mirage F-1's etc in Angola, Iraq, Libya.
@@user-ep6kh5iy7w that was a ver funny and educactional anecdote that i'm certainly planning to use. Its dificult to know the truth about war history, There is a uruganian writer who ones said that the history is always writen by the winner, no matter if its not the truth. In all the conflicts betwen Israel and the arabs countries, aparently they took the better part, or maybe they have acces to a better mass media. Í always think that we've never seen the real capacities of russian weapons, only see what they want to makes us to think about them, it would be nice but not good for the World population seeing that. By the way, There is a spanish guy whit is Chanel called "trufault " and he has some good vídeos about this matter, in fact he made 3 or 4 about the israel-egypt conflict in the 70's were talks about a very popular history of "how Soviet pilots were embarrased" you should chek it out.
@@santopiantado1161 thank you for feedback :-) I'd drop a line or two more just some thoughts and observations: During Vietnam war ( US involvement / aggression phase of it) there was a constant competition between our SAM missiles homing heads and US planes jamming devices. There were periods when our and Vietnamese SAM crews achieved ratio 2 launches per 1 shotdown plane, then Americans tweaked their jamming devices and ratio worsened to 15:1. These periods switched every half a year, and when our weapons experienced difficulties , Vietnamese began to express their dissatisfaction - "What crap did you bring us? We cannot effectively fight with it !". In Vietnam our SAMs performed quite well - 3300 US planes and 1000 Southern Vietnamese planes (that digits include all causes of loss of course) somehow confirm that :-) Nevertheless, our Vietnamese comrades regularly sent us negative feedback about SAM missiles. Why am I telling you this ? Well, in Lebanon in 1982 Syrians never complained that there's something wrong with their MiG-23's. In their (and our) better times Syrians were quite special operators of aerial equipment: I've read / heard stories when they've sent their MiG's to our maintenance plants and our engineers were astonished while observing shirring of aircraft skin... Syrians ignored regulations in manuals and were flying their planes in constant beyond-critical modes ;-) Just like Soviet pilots used american-built P-39 and P-400 during WWII ignoring recommended regime for Allison engines :-)
Christ, these "great plane" comments. Stick some driving music on footage of a 737 Max, and the muppets would be commenting "great plane". The MiG 23 was not a great plane. It was, at best, a short-range, low-payload, already-obsolete-when-deployed plane. At worst, it was unreliable and dangerous. Against the NATO aircraft it would have been fighting, it would not have stood a snowball's chance in hell.
Mig 23 MLD was the best 3 generation fighter... and it could have been upgraded to 4 generation advanced but Russia did not want to spend money on that because it had the 29 and Su 27. Russia let the great mig 23 MLD die
The reply above me is right, it could had easily been upgraded, but there was no need to because the technology was rapidly evolving and the mig 23 was rapidly becoming outdated, and besides, this was russia's first attempt at a variable geometry fighter and new technology isn't always good, actually america's first variable geometry figther, the f111 suffered the same issues, yet you don't shit on that one because it's american and whatever. And also, if it wasn't great, then why did it get upgraded to the mig 27 which was an extremely capable ground pounder if not for it's gun, but it was the same situation because the su 25 was just coming out so russia didn't bother to fix it.
Для всех 1970-х годов миг 23 был вполне адекватен однотипным легким тактическим истребителям стран НАТО, таким как мираж ф-1, мираж 3, торнадо, фантом, и даже ранние версии ф-16 кроме как в маневренности ничем не превосходили его, не имея ракет средней дальности..... Насчет низкой надежности и малой дальности -ерунда. Только версия миг 23с страдала этими недостатками, так как была по сути опытной. Помнится миг 23 долетел без пилота спокойно почти до Франции). Насчет выживания, СССР и блок ОВД имели примерно на 30% больше истребителей в Европе, чем ВВС всех Европейских членов НАТО и США в Европе. Так же имел гораздо больше мобильных систем пво. Производственные мощности авиапромышленности СССР почти все были недоступны для даже стратегической авиации НАТО тогда, а все европейские авиазаводы сгорели бы в первые дни войны, начнись она в 1960-е, 1980-е. Так что выживала бы авиация стран НАТО, если честно....
@@user-yr3rc8ef5h I really don't know where to start with such a poorly informed comment. The 1989 incident - to be clear - occurred because the pilot had to eject after an afterburner failure. And this is why you think the 23 was...a good aircraft. Seriously?
Я служил на миг 23 авиаприбористом 1981-1983 г. Отличная машина.
私は、日本人で熱烈のロシア戦闘機マニアです!Su-27とMiG−29とMiG−21が大好き!😊
Служил в армии на Су - 15 ТМ. С тех пор полюбил " сушняки". Супер самолёты. Лучшие в мире! ❤
Combat aviation is not something that you taste for pleasure..., it's something that you live for! It's clear to me that only a passionate for aviation made this video! Great feeling of a wonder world!
Слава Советской авиации, создателям авиатехники и авиаторам.
Frontal Aviation, circa 1975-85!
Мощный самолёт, красивая музыка
The most beautiful fighter plane in the world.
F14
@@CraigTodd924 JF-17
@@alexwest2573 😂😂😂
@@CraigTodd924 ?
0:32 .... Forever Blue Skies Artyom Mikoyan and Serghey Guryevich where ever you are !!! 🍺🍺🍺👍
Thank you
I came here to watch it after its added to war thunder ⚡
Привет 120-му ИАП, всем, кто летал и обслуживал эти машины!
Млд был красавец.
Здравия желаю!176й Берлинский краснознамённый ИАП.
И 85 иапу,и всем родным и причастным
Great plane...
มันเป็นเครื่องบินรบที่สวยงาม
This fighter like want to tell people the world is mine
Dios 🙏🙏 quiera nunca llegue un conflicto bélico entre 🇺🇸🇺🇸 y 🇷🇺🇷🇺 , porq será el fin de la raza humana 😭🥺🥺😭😭
That is a sexy aeroplane 👍✈️
Я на Миг- 23 м набрал высоту 21 км. при облете двигателя.
250 км набрал,смотрю НЛО летят ниже,думаю ну нахер до 17 спустился ,а шведы улетели
17500 практический потолок
@@abdulcasimovaleks6684 Да! По инструкции 17500. Но при облёте двигателя, после ремонта, набирается максимальная высота. Вот я и набрал 21 км. Были проблемы. Он там плохо реагирует на рули, к тому же, выше 18 км, по инструкции, только полный форсаж. Топливо тает на глазах, а форсаж выключать нельзя, пока не снизишься ниже 18 км, а на полном форсаж снижаться, значить превысить ограничение по скорости. Но я выкрутился и ни чего не превысил. Правда сёл с остатком менее 600 литров. 600 литров - это аварийный...
@@abdulcasimovaleks6684 А какой динамический потолок?
Хороший самолёт
Ничем не сравнимые ощущения когда включаешь форсаж и отпускаешь тормоза....
И по попе пендааль,феррари отдыхают,сложный ,его любить надо
I like the Flogger E variant
from 2:25 to 2:40 they are Hungarian Floggers based at PapaAB till 1997 (23MF) Saman (voodoo) SQ
Beautiful aircraft
Absolutely Blyatiful
683 иап 28 див.ПВО,
МиГ-23 П (изд.6), ОБУ КП.
393гиап Изд6 ,12 кор пво.👍🤝
Спору нет, " П " хорош. 👍🏻. Но два вопроса к его разработчикам имеются 😄.
nice!
Why did De wolfe Music library was Hard To search it in UA-cam?
Nice but complicated plane. 👌
На велике катайся....
Легендарул.❤❤❤❤❤
It's a great plane, first variable geometry plane in the world, i think so.
F-111.
Lovely Russian made 😍
This plane is nice
Хищные птицы!!!
МЫ хорошие.
@@user-cf3wk4mx8f Когда нас не трогают.
@@user-cf3wk4mx8f кто мы то?
دروح
мары -1, миг-23млд, ми -21 бис, большинство лётчиков воевало
bitte wie heißt die musik ?
ua-cam.com/video/PzTezaravBE/v-deo.html
It is a good looking aircraft but the design concept and requirements were flawed. Would have been better if they continued to develop the Ye-8, the original Mig-23.
Requirements for most part - our command wanted it to be able to take off from shorter or damaged runways- hence the heavy wing angle-changing mechanism etc. But our engineers could took the best out of this concept with MLD and MiG-27K mods. MLD in right hands could outperform even MiG-29 in a dogfight - I mean training dogfights in 80's in Mary (Turkmenistan ) - which was our soviet Top Gun school. And yes - E-8 concept seems more promising looking from modern days - but we had the plane that we had and it performed better than MiG-21 (for our country - for some our customers it may have seemed other way) it is now also a part of our aviation history. To say more - it was intended to oppose Phantoms - wich it did quite well - and also having it in armed forces constantly upgrading gave enough confidence that our military would have arguments even facing gradual saturation of Western forces with F-15, F-14 and F-16. Meanwhile our constructors could finally work on their new designs MiG-29, Su-27 and MiG-31 more evenly - without unnecessary urge - knowing exact parameters of their adversaries :-)
@@user-ep6kh5iy7w hi, greetings from México!!! I dont know much obout aviation, but i'm always looking for cold war planes speacially the soviets ones. I've always wondered about the real performances of migs and su's due to here in América looks like we've been forced to eat occidental advertising. Perhaps You might share whit the entusiastics a little more info about this particular jet because here they only talk about how easy the IAF shooted down the mig like they were mosquitos, maybe you may have anothee data. Thanks.
@@santopiantado1161 Salut to Mexico! Concerning IAF statements I'd say with an old soviet anecdote: " Doctor, my neighbour is 60 just as myself, but he says he makes love with his wife four times every night! What can you advise? - Well, I can advise you to say the same..." Being serious, I'd say that it has always been IAF policy to never acknowledge their combat air losses. At first, I must admit that during the only major conflict in which MiG-23's took part - first days of Lebanon War in 1982 Syrian forces really lost 68 planes of all types, of which 12 were shot down by their own AA. Secondly, fighter modification of MiG-23's losses weren't too high - 4 MiG-23MF and 6 MiG-23MS. MiG-23's achieved five victories over IAF fighter planes mostly F-16's. So 1:2 isn't too bad concidering that Syrian air forces had to fight being in disadvantageous positions: IAF planes received targeting from Hawkeyes and could see every Syrian activity, while Syrian planes were flying into Unknown because they didn't have flying radars and mountains reduced abilities of their ground targeting and battle control below 3000m. Also Syrian MiG-23's were outnumbered - 24 MiG-23MF's against 115 IAF 4-th generation planes. Not too bad performance at all. MiG-23 (MF and ML) performed as it was meant to against equal opposition: F-4's, Mirage F-1's etc in Angola, Iraq, Libya.
@@user-ep6kh5iy7w that was a ver funny and educactional anecdote that i'm certainly planning to use. Its dificult to know the truth about war history, There is a uruganian writer who ones said that the history is always writen by the winner, no matter if its not the truth. In all the conflicts betwen Israel and the arabs countries, aparently they took the better part, or maybe they have acces to a better mass media. Í always think that we've never seen the real capacities of russian weapons, only see what they want to makes us to think about them, it would be nice but not good for the World population seeing that.
By the way, There is a spanish guy whit is Chanel called "trufault " and he has some good vídeos about this matter, in fact he made 3 or 4 about the israel-egypt conflict in the 70's were talks about a very popular history of "how Soviet pilots were embarrased" you should chek it out.
@@santopiantado1161 thank you for feedback :-) I'd drop a line or two more just some thoughts and observations:
During Vietnam war ( US involvement / aggression phase of it) there was a constant competition between our SAM missiles homing heads and US planes jamming devices. There were periods when our and Vietnamese SAM crews achieved ratio 2 launches per 1 shotdown plane, then Americans tweaked their jamming devices and ratio worsened to 15:1. These periods switched every half a year, and when our weapons experienced difficulties , Vietnamese began to express their dissatisfaction - "What crap did you bring us? We cannot effectively fight with it !". In Vietnam our SAMs performed quite well - 3300 US planes and 1000 Southern Vietnamese planes (that digits include all causes of loss of course) somehow confirm that :-) Nevertheless, our Vietnamese comrades regularly sent us negative feedback about SAM missiles. Why am I telling you this ? Well, in Lebanon in 1982 Syrians never complained that there's something wrong with their MiG-23's. In their (and our) better times Syrians were quite special operators of aerial equipment: I've read / heard stories when they've sent their MiG's to our maintenance plants and our engineers were astonished while observing shirring of aircraft skin... Syrians ignored regulations in manuals and were flying their planes in constant beyond-critical modes ;-) Just like Soviet pilots used american-built P-39 and P-400 during WWII ignoring recommended regime for Allison engines :-)
MIG-23 IS MUCH BETTER THAN F-4 PHANTOM II
unfortunately it wasn't lol
86-88 гг. 684 ИАП
NA SI FROGOMO BILGRADIT KENA 40000 AVIJONA GATSHEM 400000 TANKA 70000 RAKETA ISKENDER
На последних секундах в какой стране такая пестрая гоп-компания со стремянками, не подскажете ?
The plane that wants to be the F14 Tomcat so badly lmao.
Silla ima kosovo selim albaneci sllupcane kacherri velika silla
I miss the Soviet Union
Me too.
Плетка
Бичеватель,иранские версией так себя били,но он сложный,и он бичиватель врага
Great video content but music sucks Tuna man. MIG-23 is a bad ass.
Christ, these "great plane" comments. Stick some driving music on footage of a 737 Max, and the muppets would be commenting "great plane".
The MiG 23 was not a great plane. It was, at best, a short-range, low-payload, already-obsolete-when-deployed plane. At worst, it was unreliable and dangerous. Against the NATO aircraft it would have been fighting, it would not have stood a snowball's chance in hell.
F-16 is shit because it can not into bvr
Mig 23 MLD was the best 3 generation fighter... and it could have been upgraded to 4 generation advanced but Russia did not want to spend money on that because it had the 29 and Su 27. Russia let the great mig 23 MLD die
The reply above me is right, it could had easily been upgraded, but there was no need to because the technology was rapidly evolving and the mig 23 was rapidly becoming outdated, and besides, this was russia's first attempt at a variable geometry fighter and new technology isn't always good, actually america's first variable geometry figther, the f111 suffered the same issues, yet you don't shit on that one because it's american and whatever.
And also, if it wasn't great, then why did it get upgraded to the mig 27 which was an extremely capable ground pounder if not for it's gun, but it was the same situation because the su 25 was just coming out so russia didn't bother to fix it.
Для всех 1970-х годов миг 23 был вполне адекватен однотипным легким тактическим истребителям стран НАТО, таким как мираж ф-1, мираж 3, торнадо, фантом, и даже ранние версии ф-16 кроме как в маневренности ничем не превосходили его, не имея ракет средней дальности..... Насчет низкой надежности и малой дальности -ерунда. Только версия миг 23с страдала этими недостатками, так как была по сути опытной. Помнится миг 23 долетел без пилота спокойно почти до Франции). Насчет выживания, СССР и блок ОВД имели примерно на 30% больше истребителей в Европе, чем ВВС всех Европейских членов НАТО и США в Европе. Так же имел гораздо больше мобильных систем пво. Производственные мощности авиапромышленности СССР почти все были недоступны для даже стратегической авиации НАТО тогда, а все европейские авиазаводы сгорели бы в первые дни войны, начнись она в 1960-е, 1980-е. Так что выживала бы авиация стран НАТО, если честно....
@@user-yr3rc8ef5h I really don't know where to start with such a poorly informed comment. The 1989 incident - to be clear - occurred because the pilot had to eject after an afterburner failure. And this is why you think the 23 was...a good aircraft. Seriously?
Terrible aircraft. Preformed terribly in combat.
Design of this jet fighter is not good enough.
Design of your brain is not good enough.
@@Eye5x5 what can I say to you idiot
Lindo queria ter um igual 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅