Treatment Free & Host Resistance (Cory Stevens Interview Part 6)
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- Опубліковано 7 жов 2022
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Great series. You are doing the community a great service bringing such great content from others who don’t make videos. Thank you!
Thanks John!
Well-edited series - I did not know about bald brood before. I have way too many beeks around me to think about no treatment.
Thanks Mary!
I know that feeling of queen pinching remorse all too well lol! This has been a great series. Thanks for taking the time to make it.
Thanks Adam!
Thanks. I’ve really enjoyed this interview series with Corey Stevens.
Thanks!
Cory your next move should be public speaking you would be great but don't quit selling queens please we need more like you
Wow. This series changed all my opinions. Way of VHS.. God bless you and Cory.
Thanks!
This was an outstanding series! Just finished watching the last episode. Thanks for putting this together.
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Fabulous series!! Cory fabulous jobs keep going everything can be done i really love this series thank you Nathan 👏👏👍👍👍👍
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I only have 2 colonys and treatment free for three years.
Congrats, you’re beating the odds.
Is this the last interview with Cory? Have been sharing these interviews with all our club members. A lot of great information! Thanks for all you do with your interviews to educate!
That’s the last one Nancy, thanks! I’ll go through and edit the titles to make them easier to organize.
Very nice edit of your interview series with Cory Stevens. I am enjoying your videos and the documentation of your Beekeeping progression. Thank you
Thanks Craig! I tried to edit everything into topics in chewable bites rather than a long form more rambling video.
It’s also not the mites but the viral load
Enjoyed the talk. Lots of good information. Thanks for sharing all the information. Keep up the good work. Take care n
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luv it!!
Thanks Mark!
Love the series. Thanks to Cory and you for hosting. Where does a person get a DRHC shirt?
Thanks Dave! I’m working on shirts…it’ll require changes to my site though. Takes time.
great series.
Very inspiring.
Do you know if Cory keeps large hives for multiple years?
I don’t know. Just guessing at the math he probably needs 20-25 cell builders each year which get broken down and split, so he likely keeps some large hives but I don’t know how many or how long.
I’ve seen a few pupae laying on my entrance boards lately I just assumed it was drone brood. Would you say it was more of VSH traits?
Hard to say without seeing. They can and do kick out drone brood in the fall.
I’ve also seen worker brood. I did a mite count on them 2 weeks ago ,which was 1 per 300 bees. I’m thinking it was the cold that might have killed the brood.
It’s possible. Harbo’s VSH Assay is a good way to test for VSH, but it’s time intensive.
It could be non hygienic bees from different drone father. It’s a ressesive trait so daddy matters
Can you cite a paper that backs this statements? I have heard before but I would like to understand better.
Have some confidence in yourself.
It isnt about your ability as a beekeeper, so much as your ability to set them up with an environment that simulates a natural hive environment and trusting the bees to keep themselves. They've kept on keeping on for 50-100 million years. They can do it better than we can.
If I could afford to start up an Apiary, and was going to use langstroth style hives, I'd use 2×10s so the frames touch on top and bottom and drill pass through holes in the top and bottom bars for the bees to cross over to the other side. Use peaked insulated top covers with a ridge vent so there isnt heat being pushed down into the hives, but no other ventilation. And I'd treat it like a pile hive where new boxes go on bottom and older boxes that are backfilled with honey come off the top. Mark frames with arrows going to the outside to keep everything sorted for Housel Positioning. Mark boxes and frames with hive numbers and date the frames. That way, each hive gets it's own frames and boxes back, and there isnt too much cross contamination from hive to hive. And so that brood is in relatively clean comb almost constantly. Any frames that reach 3 years get cut/crush comb so that theres almost continual turnover, so that comb doesn't get too full of chemical contaminants or pathogenic microorganisms that the bees bring back to the hive from foraging.
It seems most diseases arent so much "not there" as most people like to think. The diseases are there already. But, the concentration of spores or active pathogenic bacteria or fungi, in relation to the amount of beneficial bacteria and fungal organisms, is the important part. That balance. When we treat, we risk disturbing that balance one way or another. Just like when we feed sugar syrup, instead of letting the bees have their natural honey, it upsets those balances in the bees' gastrointestinal tracts and can cause gut dysbiosis. Likewise, how treatments could kill natural beneficial bacteria, such as Lactic Acid Bacteria, bifidobacteria, acetobacters, enterobacters, apibacters etc, causing dysbiosis in the hives, which gives way for diseases.
I'd also be placing hives where they get shaded by trees that defoliate in the fall and allow sunlight to the hives during winter.
I would do mite checks monthly and track the results to see how it plays out. I feel theres gonna be times when mite loads seem CRAZY high, but then times where theres natural brood breaks (summer dearth, winter cluster, and post swarm/new queen rearing) that will have a very significant impacts on the mite loads if we just keep an eye on it. And those enhanced genetics for the bees to deal with mites will make a huge difference, as well as bees who have very heathly bacterial diversity in the gut and in the hive.
I'm not entirely naive. There will be hiccups and hardships, you may lose MOST of your colonies, but splitting those that survive will be a big step to natural selection.
But with treating, we're forcing the mites through natural selection at an excelerated rate. by killing the ones that are susceptable to the treatments, the ones that survive live on, breed, and make stronger and stronger, more resistant mites. In the meantime, we're preventing natural selection from taking place with the bees, thus further harming the bees, by "saving" those that should have died out, and allowing them to polute the gene pool. People talk about squashing queens any time a hive goes "Hot" or gets aggressive because "we have a responsibility to prevent aggressive genetics in the drone congregation areas" but what about weak genetics that should have otherwise succumbed to a pest or disease? Should we not consider that responsibility? I feel interferance with natural selection is the greatest harm that we can possibly do. And that it will eventually lead to ruin, devastation, or outright extinction. I look at the world today, and it's very troubling. Everything is all about killing and poisoning and destroying the planet. And look at the human population today. It starts with nanny laws and safety warnings and ends with safe spaces and promoting stuff that will eventually lead to extinction.
Give the bees a chance to survive on their own. We're not helping to fix the problems, we're making the problems exponential by protecting those that would otherwise perish. Which in turn, polutes the genetics of those that would otherwise flourish.
Wow, thanks for the detailed message!
@@DuckRiverHoney you're welcome. Sorry it was so long and typo'd all to heck and back.
👍 no worries
It occurs to me that bald brood would be an advantage in treating with oxalic acid mid season.
Probably so, but it’s usually small patches that are open so I don’t know that it would move the needle too much.
@@DuckRiverHoney I guess it depends whether the bees are accurate about whether those are the areas that have mites hiding. It’s interesting to speculate about, anyway.
Why would you speculate ? Keep an uncapping fork and a needle with you.. and when you see something... well, stick the fork under their heads and pull them out. That's how beekeepers get answers.
@@researcherAmateur I’ve never seen bald brood in my bees, and going through and going through and manually uncapping all my brood to test that is more work than I’m willing to do.
@@graemediesel2936 who said you have to uncap all your brood ? Some day you'll find a line of bald brood.. that would be a good time to have a needle, and use it to see if they have a wax moth larva under it. You could learn something there, without speculating...