How to Make a Thermocouple

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  • @nobodyyouknow3669
    @nobodyyouknow3669 3 роки тому +5

    Thermocouples required dissimilar metals or they won't work. You might want to address that in this video and specify the metal types the wires are made of.

    • @robber576
      @robber576 3 роки тому +4

      You just buy thermocouple type "x" wire you want to make a thermocouple out of, if you buy thermocouple k type wire you get the correct two alloys.
      The wire comes in different qualitys which affects the accuracy but all are basically the same, k-type wire is used to make a k-type thermocouple and so are all the other types.

    • @heatsinks
      @heatsinks  3 роки тому +2

      Hi @Nobody Youknow ~ Fist, thanks for leaving your comment, we appreciate your coming by. Second @robber576 is spot on with his answer. Third, we have a free white paper on the basics of thermocouples that you might also find helpful, no registration required: www.qats.com/Qpedia-Article/Qpedia_Feb07_Thermocouples Fourth, Omega has a handy reference guide on thermocouples you may also find helpful www.omega.com/en-us/resources/thermocouples-sheath-material-and-temperature-limits

  • @heatsinks
    @heatsinks  11 років тому +2

    Glad we could help!

  • @heatsinks
    @heatsinks  8 років тому +3

    +Amit Sharma asked: "Hi, can you show us the welding and closing process of K type thermocouples with 6mm mineral insulated wire"
    Hi Amit - I am sorry but we don't have K type wire in our lab. MOst of the applications we work with don't have such extreme temperature requirements which would require that kind of insulation. The biggest differences between what we use and K type wire would probably be stripping the insulation of the wire.

  • @Graham_Wideman
    @Graham_Wideman 2 роки тому +2

    "... and the steadiness of your hand is aided by the ATS welder's emission of a melodious note".

  • @SherabRabzyorYolmo
    @SherabRabzyorYolmo 11 років тому +2

    Helped me get a project done. Thanks.

  • @physnoct
    @physnoct 2 роки тому +1

    An interesting application would be to use the copper of a PCB as one of the metal, with the other being constantan.
    I was looking for a way to do a thermocouple without a thermistor or a thermadam .... ok, I'll get out.

  • @sbreheny
    @sbreheny 6 років тому +1

    Good video but it would be nice if you could show the bead which was formed to give an idea of what a good weld looks like.

    • @heatsinks
      @heatsinks  6 років тому +1

      Thanks Sean, great idea. If we re-shoot the video we'll see if we can include that. Thanks for watching!

  • @The_SegaHolic
    @The_SegaHolic Рік тому +1

    So where can I get that kind of welder?

    • @heatsinks
      @heatsinks  Рік тому

      Hi The SegaHolic - Thank you for stopping by our UA-cam Channel. There are two places you can get this kind of welder, there may be others but these two are ones we've used:
      (1) DDC Corporation sells their thermocouple welders directly.
      www.dcccorporation.com/index.html
      (2) Omega Engineering also offers a couple of models.
      www.omega.com/en-us/accessories/tools/c/welders?view=list

  • @michaelcroat4656
    @michaelcroat4656 4 роки тому

    Cool demo on the process, but since a themocouple require two different aloy compositions of the wires, I am curious what are the two metals in the insulated wires?

    • @heatsinks
      @heatsinks  4 роки тому +1

      We generally use type J thermocouples, which has one wire of iron, and the other of Constantan (a copper alloy). There are many resources on the internet which will tell you the alloys used in other types of thermocouples, and the color codings that are used to identify them.

  • @raethanmoniker6673
    @raethanmoniker6673 7 років тому +5

    I guess you need to be advanced to get this video. It never mentions what kind of wire is used. Two different metals in the wire? Why twist? I'm dumb so it generated more questions than answers.

    • @heatsinks
      @heatsinks  7 років тому +1

      Raethan Moniker,
      The techniques shown in this video apply generally to the many different types of thermocouple wire that are available. We twist the wire together so that the wires remain close together until the time that the actual spot weld gets formed. After the spot weld is formed, if twisted wire remains, we suggest untwisting them for the best thermocouple accuracy.
      Thanks for watching!

    • @ClaudioFontachannel
      @ClaudioFontachannel 5 років тому +1

      for k type thermocouple, the two different metals are: Chromel (Ni-Cr) and Alumel (Ni-Al) (-)

  • @alldayjack4830
    @alldayjack4830 3 роки тому +1

    Is the welding required, or can you leave the wires only twisted together.

    • @robber576
      @robber576 3 роки тому +3

      I observed years ago that a type k can be easily made by just twisting the wires together, if found no difference in measuring between a self bodged thermocouple and a factory made sensor.
      By doing this the company i worked for had a financial advantage over the competitor who used expensive real thermocouple sensors while i made them homemade out of k-type wire twisted together and secured with a copper crimp connector.

  • @coachgeo
    @coachgeo 2 роки тому

    I have an MPPT lead or lithium solar charge controller intended to be mounted right next to battery. A fairly inexpensive unit typically used for solar powered street lamps. The controller has small tail of wire with an in the air thermocouple on the end to measure temperature for controlling charge based on temperature of space around battery. The wire with sheath is only 2 or so MM in size and the thermoucouple secion itself only maybe half cm in width... I would like to move this thermocouple (thus allow for battery to be far away) with about 25 feet of compensating extension wire .. do you have any suggestions for me? all the wire is black. I have picture if it would help.

  • @garyharrison3986
    @garyharrison3986 4 роки тому

    Thankyou.the one l use is a heat one on hot water .old 96 Bosch can l solder the wire back in .the tip it fell out.what is the tip made of that is in the pilot flame? Thankyou

  • @shreevathsacs
    @shreevathsacs 9 місяців тому

    can I use a banana plug connector at the other ends?

  • @AmitSharma-iq4rk
    @AmitSharma-iq4rk 11 років тому

    Hi, can u show us the welding and closing process of K type thermocouple with 6.0 mm mineral insulated wire. ?

  • @abdulaziza
    @abdulaziza 10 років тому +1

    Very helpful, Thanks

    • @222elango
      @222elango 10 років тому +1

      good useful for m y students

    • @hi-techtransducersdevicesp5509
      @hi-techtransducersdevicesp5509 4 роки тому +1

      The video is nice and informative. if you are searching for Thermocouple manufacturing please visit our video ua-cam.com/video/yoVnLRLmK_k/v-deo.html

  • @Persian5word
    @Persian5word 8 років тому +3

    he failed to mention that you gotta untwist the twisted portion!!!

    • @heatsinks
      @heatsinks  8 років тому +1

      +Persian5word -- That is a good point - having a long twisted section could
      lead to inaccurate thermocouple readings. This is addressed in the current
      (January 2016) issue of Qpedia, which you can read here: www.qats.com/Qpedia-Thermal-eMagazine/Back-Issues. However, when we make thermocouples, we burn it back to the insulation, so that there is no twisted section left.

  • @Petrushka_o_0
    @Petrushka_o_0 10 років тому

    the accuracy of one of this is as good as a thermocouple from a store? how can i know it?

    • @heatsinks
      @heatsinks  8 років тому +1

      +Hugo Cruz Valeriano -- The accuracy of the thermocouples you make are just as good as the pre-made units you can buy from a store. Following some of the suggestions in the January 2016 issue of Qpedia (www.qats.com/Qpedia-Thermal-eMagazine/Back-Issues) will help you maintain accuracy. One of the things that does affect accuracy is the grade of the wire that you buy. Most common thermocouple types are available in “standard” and “Special Limits of Error” wire which has a tighter tolerance on the readings.

    • @Petrushka_o_0
      @Petrushka_o_0 8 років тому +1

      Thanks :)

  • @ravi1595
    @ravi1595 7 років тому

    could u tell me what wire we have to use and how to test ?

    • @heatsinks
      @heatsinks  7 років тому

      mk cyber,
      There are many guides online which describe thermocouple characteristics.
      For example, the Omega Engineering website has one here: www.omega.com/techref/colorcodes.html
      and it summarizes the useful temperature ranges, color codes, and other qualities of the various thermocouple types.
      As for testing them, if you don’t have some sort of calibrated temperature reference, you could use an ice bath
      and a boiling water bath to check at 0° and 100°C.
      Thanks for watching!

    • @ravi1595
      @ravi1595 7 років тому

      ok i will try thanks !

  • @DeDustMet
    @DeDustMet 4 роки тому +2

    I thought to make a thermocouple work you need two conductors wire from different metals.

    • @gld001channel
      @gld001channel 4 роки тому +4

      www.newark.com/omega/ff-k-24s-twsh-1000/thermocouple-wire-type-k-24awg/dp/43AC9180#anchorTechnicalDOCS
      Yes.

  • @mercedesgauna5307
    @mercedesgauna5307 6 років тому

    LOS SENSORES DE TEMPERATURA SON ELEMENTOS FUNDAMENTALES EN TODO PROCESO DONDE SEA NECESARIO EL CONTROL DE LA TEMPERATURA, SIENDO LOS ENCARGADOS DE ENVIAR LA SEÑAL A LOS CONTROLADORES.

    • @heatsinks
      @heatsinks  6 років тому

      De acuerdo, son realmente fundamentales. Pero en el caso de nuestro video, realmente los estamos utilizando con el propósito de medir la temperatura para hacer análisis. Aún así, es retroalimentación. ¡Gracias por dejar un comentario y visitar nuestro canal!

  • @Rocko262c
    @Rocko262c 7 років тому

    The spot welding should be done in Argon

  • @nicovv44
    @nicovv44 8 років тому

    What is the metal used ?

    • @heatsinks
      @heatsinks  8 років тому

      +Incroyable monde -- We typically use J type thermocouples, which are made from one strand of iron and one strand of constantan (a copper alloy). K type is also very popular, but J has a little higher sensitivity. We also avoid T type, because one strand is copper, which is much better at conducting heat away from the test subject and could affect the test results.

    • @flashgordon3715
      @flashgordon3715 8 років тому

      Avoiding T type because of thermal conduction is only valid for test subject with very little mass, several grams

    • @heatsinks
      @heatsinks  8 років тому

      That’s a good point - in our labs we end up testing a lot of different devices of many different sizes, so we have some cases where this matters, and others that it doesn’t. We try to avoid confusion by minimizing the different types of thermocouple wire that we have on hand. So we use several different wire gauges, but they are all J type.

  • @flashgordon3715
    @flashgordon3715 8 років тому

    I need to strip sheathing from T.C. cable. I need to strip hundreds of T.C. cables. Your method of wire stripping takes to long

    • @heatsinks
      @heatsinks  8 років тому

      As we alluded to in another comment, our main use for thermocouples is lab testing, not production. We rarely need to use more than a couple dozen, so our techniques reflect that. For higher volume use, there are many different options for automatic wire strippers available.

    • @flashgordon3715
      @flashgordon3715 8 років тому

      +Advanced Thermal Solutions, Inc. this is for test. nearly 3000 t.c.. Spacecraft thermal vacuum chamber
      you would think Omega would have a tool for stripping tc wire. we use Type T as it is more accurate at liquid nitrogen temp.
      I haven't figured out how many miles of tc we,ll use

  • @minnegulov01
    @minnegulov01 3 роки тому

    О чем идет речь?