South Western Railways New Class 701
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- Опубліковано 20 лис 2019
- SWR's new "Aventra" Class 701 is coming to the network in 2020, so I popped along for the press trip to the Bombardier factory at Litchurch Lane in Derby to see them being built, and go for a ride on one of the first units.
“Here’s some shots of the interior of the train.”
*immediately cuts to a shot of the exterior of the train*
You know that Geoff like doing outside shots
750-742=8 spares
At the start: Waterloo busiest railway station
Me: *gets flashback to April fools Waterloo least used London station*
He said "least used London Waterloo", so its technically correct
@@asheiou What about London Waterloo East!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@isaactimmins8959 we don't talk about Waterloo East
When you were inside the shed, you looked like a little kid with his cap on, and oh so excited to play with some big trains.
almost 3 years later and theres still no sign of these things entering service, theyll be as old as the 455s are now when theyre finally introduced
They've FINALLY entered service. Well, one train so far.
Being from Montreal, I cant help feeling very proud when I see Bombardier all over the world. ⚜️🇨🇦😊
Bombardier’s original 1974 metro cars (the first public transport rolling stock they made) are still running on 🟢🟡🔵 lines, with the new hybrid Bombardier+Alstom cars on the 🟢🟠 lines.
I wouldn’t be very proud of it now, these trains are now 3 years late into service, have little to no sign of service entry any time soon, and have caused mayhem on the network by not working, hell there’s been class 444s on suburban services because they had nothing else
@@class444swr3 Bombardier delivering a train without at least a year delay and at least 2 major faults would be a miracle
GA opted for yellow fronts on the Class 720s because of concerns about visibility at foot crossings in rural areas and along the 100mph mainline to Norwich. Probably the same reason for SWR.
Good reason why trains should still be yellow at the front
Geoff, this is a real feelgood video, especially the visit to Litchurch Lane in Derby. I am delighted to see that so many trains new are to built here in Britain.
Nice! But it’s a bit silly to replace the 707’s already! It’s been like 2 years
They are probably needed elsewhere
Yeah! The 707’s are going to Southeastern to replace the 376’s
@@lv-ag6129 Not confirmed
It's the bizarre world of accounting; it would seem SWT got the 707s on quite an expensive deal from Siemens/whoever the leasing company is, and it was cheaper for SWR to break that contract and sign a new one with Bombardier at a better leasing rate. Why that is possible... who knows.
K.o.R spot on really
Another Cool insight into the Manufacturers and the processes in place towards Train Building and also a great way for the younger people to explore different Apprenticeships / Traineeships that maybe available within these organisations. Thanks again Geoff.
1:16 Just casually driving around with a piece of trainbody...
The BlockMaster Productions as you do 😳😂😳
As a former SWR commuter I really enjoyed watching this. Keep up the good work!
"Don't snigger"
You'll be glad to know I didn't, Geoff.
I laughed quite loudly for a few minutes.
okay
Uh, If I were you I'd check my spelling mate
Hello Geoff, a very useful and informative video, very well edited, commentated, narrated, guided, polished and produced, I can't wait for these news Trains to be rolled out, it's certainly going to enhance the current Passenger experience significantly. Cheers Peter :)
your lying are you...
@@thetrainman1977 no
They look a lot better in this video than a lot of pictures and artists impressions that I've seen and I can't wait for them!
4:05... I didn't snigger, but a wry smile did cross my face when the dude behind you roared with laughter lol
One thing that ALL manufacturers should be compelled to do is make ALL multiple units coupling compatible wherever possible.
4:05 you said don't snigger but someone's laughing in the background lol
*_ahaHAHAHAHA_*
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Nice informative piece, Geoff!
Great video, Geoff, I knew the vote would get you there, lol. Glad to hear they are complete with accessible, as I suspect I will appreciate those more now!
Again the most uncomfortable looking seats ever, the type that when you sit down you almost wish you were standing..
Do you think that the new open format is going to get rid of the toilets as well?
@@DanielCraigie Why should it.. It didn't on the 707. 🤔
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks Ones now from Guildford to waterloo lines via Cobham never had toilets once was stuck on it for 2 hours man i was bursting.
@@SkunkMantraTechnoSkunk Really.. How strange. I swear the ones in the Thameslink line have toilets.. 🤔
Is it an 8 carriage? I mean I cannot think of any reason why they would omit WC's, unless it was a 4 coach short commuter service.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks yer these are normally 8 carrages from Guildford to waterloo eva via Cobham going through wimbledon or Leather head ETC then to waterloo. ive not seen public lavs on them.
Anyone else think the 701 looks like an angry wasp?
James Christmas tbh it kinda does xD
URRGH ANGRY HEADLIGHTS
Abit, but with a blunt head.
Yup
Cool looking trains Geoff. The controls look like a space ship!
Yes!! From the sounds of it they will working on my commute!! The best thing is the air conditioning! It’s so hot in the summer on swr trains compared to southern ones as no air con! The seat charging ports sound good as well! 👍🏻😀
Middle of 2021, still waiting for my 701 to appear.
I don't want them
End of 2022 and still no sign of 701s, at least some have moved from Eastleigh at least
And yet this week - three years later - they’ve been taken for “storage”😂
They look so good! Also I love the Elizabeth Line trains
Mad tunnel vision going on at the start there Geoff. You're a genius, man. Stick some shades on 😎
Never ceases to amazes me how different types of trains and modes London has..why does it need to be so complicated 🤣 here in Cork we literally have..the train or the bus. They're your choices 🤣
its because some service lines have shorter platforms and poor rail infrustructure so they have to build trains that will accommodate the tunnels , bridges . quite complex though but its all to do with the infrustructure and total number of passengers moving too.
I work for bombardier (Anglia build) and saw you walking around site the other day, wasn’t sure if it was you! It’s cool to see a video about my own job!
Fantastic news, these look great. SWR is a dire experience on some of those older trains.
So glad you refer to the Lizard line as the Purple Line. Cheers Geoff!
Hey Geoff, when the Class 484's get built, I have a feeling you'll be doing a video on that. The old Island Line trains are definitely in need of replacing.
But still the 701 looks amazing, shame the 707's are going.
On the upside, no chance of falling asleep in those seats which resemble folded ironing boards.
Great film as usual Geoff.
Good job you put this on UA-cam, as the general public won't see them for years yet......
Bruh the infamous ironing board seat
They r gonna replace my childhood already with something you can get from Tesco for 1.99 is absolutely just I'm out of words 😂
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This is coming on my line, can’t wait!
Wow, the flatter fronts look so so much better than the standard design!
Ah, but what's the best cab angle for a train that needs to go at 100 mph?
@rosiefay7283 a bit late, but they never needed a arrow front the hit 100mph. No train ever really did. Just needs enough power
Looks like the same awful, rock hard, bolt upright seats that so many new trains have. Why can't we have comfortable seats now?
I find the old plastic chairs in bus and ferry to be more comfortable because they are angled and have curve on the lower part which support my lower back muscle. Yes they are ugly but they are more ergonomic and easier to clean.
@DanielTheRanterVGCP But I though we were going to have our sovereignty back and that there would be butterflies and unicorns everywhere and life would be wonderful?
@DanielTheRanterVGCP Modern fire resistant seats don't have to be hard, comfy padded ones take up more space, fire resistance is probably not important now that smoking is banned, oh how I miss a smoke filled compartment in the morning.
We could have comfy seats but we have a poor culture in Britain called “destroy everything” Better to drive
Zero human ergonomics
Hi Geoff.
I caught a glimpse of one on a test run through Richmond station today around 12:40. Looks sleek.
Great video mate 😊
How about an update. Mid 2020 ??
They’re going to see “soft introduction” in 2024, I think the defects and union disagreements have almost been resolved.
It looks like the evolution of the class 185
Great looking train!
Brilliant video Geoff keep it up
It was 13:15 for quite a long while, either it’s able to time travel, or it’s the train equivalent to a VCR blinking 12:00
The class 701 looks so much nicer than the other aventra offerings imo
We can try all 3's - as Southern, SouthEastern, and South Western Railway of all 701 services either 5 or 10 coaches. I know they build 90 of them, (30x5 + 60x10), but can we do more real soon?
Yep you're right
They look amazing Geoff
HI Geoff! Cool vid dude! Like the 701 livery - not bad!!
"cheap plastic things from tesco express" yawwie - 2019
They look like that I hate Aventras apart from the 710s and 345s.
I don't mind the 701s but the 720 looks nice but the 710 doesn't look that good at the front
He only hates them because they're replacing the 455s, 456s, 458s and 707s...
@@oliverbrelsford5472 true. I hope that the 455s and the rest would be atleast on a heritage railway or getting exported. Not scrapped
@@MaxsTrainspotting Good thinking my friend, but sadly none will find themselves on a heritage railway. Reason: Name me an electrified one.
I’m guessing they’ll have hard seats which won’t line up with the windows! If that’s the case they’ll be crap!
Nice vid! Thanks for the interesting video
Another good vid G 👏
I prefer Siemens. German quality and technology beats Canadian any day of the week. The main modification I would make for the Desiro City would be flush doors and rounded/pointed cab ends to increase aerodynamic efficiency. And customise the traction motors by using neodymium magnets for the rotor to increase the power density (more volts per unit amp, so more power can be supplied without burning the wires out, and the higher back emf allows the train to regeneratively brake at lower speeds).
And how many are going to comment that "that train had a pantograph but SWR is 3rd rail"....
Me. I was that man. Picky, picky, picky...
Well it ac/DC which means it can run on both
I was about to ask the same are some of the first unit being fitted with Pantos like the first gen 375s Bombardier produced to test them and the rest only fitted with 3rd rail shoes for weight saving and cost saving?
@@danielholmes3122 you know that, I know that, but that won't stop people now, will it?
The Siemens trains on SWR were also configured so they could have pantographs added
2.37-2.38 a nice sound in the background. The ping. Means a cup of tea 😂
Waterloo station is amazing...!!! 🙂🔝👌🚄🚆
I've just noticed that the class 701 was using its Pantograph and not the Shoe gear?
TFL_Travel_RBLX might be the GOBLIN overground ones
Geoff explained in the description. "- The first few units have pantographs (including the one shown on the test track) just to prove the functionality, but the rest/majority will be third rail only."
They have both :)
Scott Quine will all of them be both ?
@@JackLebeau666 oh god please Big no no the have got the class 710 already .
Being delayed!! 🤣🤣🤣 that’s south western railway.
And train strike in December too!!!!
@@DavBlc7 Ironically they are striking because these trains have door controls for the driver so the trains are capable of driver only operation (Like they have on most of the other suburban rail lines)
The class 701 will be in service in December 2020
@@MrRevika Mar 2021
Hey Phil! Ah, I wondered what they were building at Feltham - that answers that question then! I noticed it had an overhead pickup - that's odd, not much call for that on the local lines, lol.
I love only 5 minutes away from the site
Oh wow, early. Nice vid Geoff
Was this filmed before the countless issues this week on the swr network
This week?? There always seem to be issues on SWR
Well, it's 2023 and they're still parked in depot yards, unuseable, apparently because of the extra few seats you mention. Still leaky rustbuckets are all we peasants on the SWR network can expect, some six years after the new franchisees promised us the Earth if they got the gig!
Nice one Geoff!
Looks like a nice train - good luck with running it @ 100mph on the Windsor lines
4:04 giggity
ooh damn, well the fact that are replacing loads of trains should be revoked soon!
These look nice!
Very cool. They shoulda let you sign one of the trains somewhere hidden as they were building it, that way you’ll have a special connection to it.
Will this train result in them being more punctual, cheaper fares, and fewer strikes? I seriously doubt it
Geoff Will you make a video on the 701 when it enters into service
Amazing, amazing new Trains in London
Can't wait fur these
Geoff, I thought you said that Waterloo was the Least Used Station?
I do know it was an April fools before anyone starts being confusion.
Good trains. Still look like plastic though. The forklift carrying that piece of train gives it away 😂
Matt Kemp maybe it’s not plastic, but composites like carbon fibre which are lighter and stronger than metal.
Just to quickly point out, I think the Bombardier factory is where you see the running rails, the third rail, the fourth rail and overhead electrification in the same place. The only thing missing is a MAGLEV guideway.
I like how they make you put the booties on outside so you can really track in the dirt...
Where was the Elbow test?
0:06 onwards sounds like a rap song
This made me laugh more than it should🤣🤣🤣🤣
So much for mid 2020!
Yay finally a 701 fan
I had to laugh at erection. Sorry I’ve let u down. Would be Great to see new trains out of Waterloo on metro routes next year
" should be out by mid 2020 " me in 2022 when 701s are not out yet
Don’t worry they’re still not here and it’s nearly 2023, they’re cramped for drivers, unreliable and dangerous (arcing from 3rd rail equipment)
A train that is late before its even started....what a shambles. I saw a video of a large number of 701 units at Worksop, they're doing a lot of good there aren't they?!
How weird that 3 years later they're still not in service!
Why do they have pantographs? SWR uses 3rd rail?
I think the Pantograph are to allow testing on Bombardier's Derby test track.
Two of the 707s, had pantographs and even did test run from Peterborough to Wimbledon. Several factors, one being the ability to cascade them in the future. Also there's always the chance in the future that parts of the network could be re-electrified to 25kv. Look at the daft plan the DfT had to electrify between Reading and through to Southampton with 25kv and remove 3rd rail!
Even Merseyrail's 777s have 25kv ability for future network expansion.
I love trains with yellow fronts. All trains should have them. TSI can go do one.
Pink is nice !
@@Hammondfreak If Thameslink would paint their doors in "Thameslink Pink", I would concede them replacing their yellow panels with pink ones.
What... this is insane... who cares what the front looks like. Why can't it just be a normal colour like grey or the same colour as the rest of the train?
Very nice train
"Mid 2020" 🤣
Welcome to 2024, Class 701!
Bet those old South West trains are still too good to replace Pacers
Unfortunately their all third rail otherwise a lot of old southern stuff would’ve gone north already
What ever happens to all of the old stock ? Maybe the Isle of Wight could do with some.
Nope. There's a tunnel on the Isle of Wight which is too narrow for regular trains. This is why they use tube trains.
They're kept in reserve for when the inevitable problems start with the new trains.
Very nice
What a beautiful plastic box on wheels would look perfect in my bin
Dear Geoff ...at DACH (Germany, Austria, Switzerland) Bombardier Trains are known as ... late (years - more then the purple line is), not working, "Störung - Störung" and many technical difficulties ... how about the UK ... same there?
Most likely "Malfunction - Malfunction" or maybe "Error - Error" in the UK. I once worked on German flightpath computers that used to say: "Überfragt - Überfragt". Stuck with the crew lingo for years after.
same here in Toronto Canada; Bombardier delayed delivery of Flexity streetcars and then delivered faulty ones that the TTC, the local transit agency, had to fix up in-house. They also seem to be late in delivery for MTA New York Subway trains. Bombardier is a hot mess.
How long are these going to stay clean/graffiti free?
Can’t say I’ve ever noticed any graffiti on any train on SW Railway and the current stock have been in use a while.
@@GrahamRead101 I agree not normally too much graffiti but I've seen the odd bit on the 455 units
Tends to be the windows which get damaged on the Windsor Lines for some reason. Not a lot of graffiti in Feltham, but there's a new target now :(
I went on a guided tour there around 30 years ago, the other 39 visitors were trainee Police Officers and were not even interested in trains!