Highlights - Stade Rochelais v Saracens Quarter-final│Heineken Champions Cup 2022/23
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- Stade Rochelais host Saracens in the 2022/23 Heineken Champions Cup quarter-finals
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How good is Botia...three turnovers in 1st half....good line break as well and workhorse work rate
Huge player for La Rochelle. Sadly Farrell clearly didn't fancy tacking him and waved him through for the try
As a Saracens fan, I'm sad the team couldn't win, but it is hard not to root for the "little club that could" in La Rochelle so hoping for a double Champions Cup and the Top 14 title!
Honestly same! It's good to see a club that prioritises youth players getting silverware after years of foundation building. Long may it continue!
@@sumboi2321 i want a full transcript of skeltons shite taunting!
Easy win for La Rochelle .
With this level Saracens can thank god for not having faced Toulouse or Leinster.
These semi finals are gonna absolutely in insane !!!
Ronan O'Gara's time at the Crusaders really fast tracked his coaching career .
It's like he's been coaching for decades. I got my money on Tolouse to win it all though , but Leinster in Dublin are almost unplayable .
It's all gonna be crazy
Toulouse? They will lose in Dublin 100% we whooped Toulouse last year in the semi’s🤣
Toulouse wont win in Dublin. It'll be a La Rochelle/Leinster final again.
@@KnucksM8 Last year Toulouse came to Leinster with players having played more than 30 games since the start of the season, this year it's different
It probably helps that ROG is coaching La Rochelle and not Connacht tbf
If neutral ref, Toulouse win 100% sur ! They are way better than any other stranger team
I'm here just for the comments and the huge win by La Rochelle
Boutier the beast, honestly he played fantastically.
La Rochelle’s front row Is so strong I think that’s their secret…a combination of a powerful base of ball handling and key players at the breakouts
I doubt any other rugby result gave me this much joy this season. My favorite French club eliminated my least liked English club.
Allez La Rochelle. I hope you guys defend the title.
Another object lesson in Farrell's defensive frailties.
Not Saracens fan, but the 16 from Sarries doesn´t have another area to do the clean of the ruck .. . how should have clean Skelton?, moving/pushing from where?, how?, he couldn´t cleaning the ruck any lower . . . . .
Saturday 29th April........ Toulouse, welcome to Leinster, believe in Leinster, this is Leinster.
Botia selling Farrell down the Amazon there, paddle on son
Farrell is pretty shocking in defense.
Lifelong Quins fan here - Andrew Brace, what a ref! Great game for La Rochelle today!!
I think his mum has put his yellow shirt thru the wash with a red sock cos it's come out all pink. La Rochelle were 16 men strong today! 😅
I'm not a Saracens fan, just a fan of rugby and while I do agree we need to avoid high tackles etc the yellows and reds are ruining the game. The yellow for the player rucking over is embarrassing.
I couldn't agree more
300 players and ex players have now lodged alleged brain injury claims. There’s rumours of more lawyers with more claimants watching from the sidelines. These cases are predicated to probably last for years costing millions. The spoiling of the game is the price to pay for all the litigation.
@@itwasntme8770 We can agree to disagree. I would rather we all packed up and played darts than this.
I'm a neutral in this match...there is absolutely no way that's a yellow!
@@itwasntme8770 yet u have sports like NHL where literally punching each other is part of the game...and it's in USA/canada where they sue for everything... why don't they have brain injury claims?
This club and city are Rugby
WoW
Saracens were well beaten by a better ream; but Andrew Brace?
The will be better without awful Farell like English national Team. Buy a real 10!
@@Titteeeee yeah we saw that against France, no Farell and a real 10 and still got raped
@@Titteeeee mate you haven’t got a clue what your talking about
Brace is a terrible referee, this was not a one off for him, however, the mithering and chat back by the Saracens players (Farrell is by far the worse) was disgraceful. Brace couldn’t handle them with the minerals required, at least three of them should’ve been binned
Awful refereeing - but remember there are 4 refs - whats the point of having a TMO who just says I agree with the facts it's about how you interpret those 'facts' - or apply mitigation.
The yellow at the end is ridiculous - it's not the Sarries fault that the opposition was in a bad position for the last one...
Should have been a penalty try and arguably a red - dangerous play and preventing a try... Wouldn't have made much difference.
This referee was good because he showed consistency between the yellow for Dulin and the yellow for the Saracens flanker. No one would complain about refereeing in this game and the TMO did a great job too. She showed clear communication with the field referee and that's all you want.
Are the likes of Leinster, La Rochelle and Toulouse actually stronger teams than the best international sides? Sorry to leave Exeter out but you know what I mean.
Lesquels ?
I reckon they would give most international teams a good run for their money like
It means English Rugby is dead
As an Exeter fan its fair enough! Club sides are definitely better as more time gelling together. Japan's rapid rise was in large parts down to having effectively one club team match the national team
@@Titteeeee good one. French rugby must've been dead for a decade then up until recently.
Disappointed obviously as a Saracens fan. We were outclassed today. Shame the ref was poor but even with decisions going our way, we could not convert it to points. Congrats to La Rochelle on a good win
One yellow on each side for the exact same offense shows consistency. You cannot ask more from the ref.
@@BonuxCouleur a yellow for something which isn't even an offence does not show any consistency whatsoever🤣
Ici, ici, c’est La Rochelle 😊
Arrete, ca va vous portez la poisse.
@@BonuxCouleur ici,ici, c’est la Rochelle 🫡
@@titou1775 "La Rochelle, belle et rebelle". Allez les jaune et noir!
👍😍
The real final will be the semi-final Leinster against Toulouse . . .
While form and highlights would suggest that, La Rochelle and their self-confessed Leinster hating Coach often get refereeing luck against Leinster.,
Pathetic arrogant comment. Guessing it’s from a deluded arrogant Leinster fan who thought they would hammer LR in last years final also. Will never learn. Leinster really do reap what they sow lol.
@@michaelodonnell824 Oh no not the ref again
As "Irish" a comment as you'll find on the Itnternet...........except possibly for "Yer fee'll get Frostbit!"
@@michaelodonnell824 , Could you show when O'Gara, since he's been coach at La Rochelle, has said he "hated Leinster?" Do not make statements that are a libel...because your obsession with "Munster" has had you take leave of your senses.
Fiji have some world class players, a bit of a shame they haven't been able to build a world class team yet. Hope the Drua would have a significant contribution.
And Austin Healy - I challenge everyone to name more biased commentators than this bloke. Seeing high tackles, penalties, cards and penalty tries every which way if they would have been in the English team's favour and then when Skelton gets KO'd it's not even a peanlty.
I agreed with most of what Austin Healy said, I can understand his frustration at the ridiculous calls made by the ref, clearly siding the home team with the loud crowd.
AH isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. Loves the sound of his own voice even when it's not connected to any grey cells on the top floor.
@@pushthetempo2 It's not hard to agree with most of what he said cause almost every time he got it wrong, the replay showed the truth and he corrected himself. Andrew Brace makes dubious (to say the least) calls in every game. On the other hand Healy never spotted an indiscretion by Sarries that the refs missed and to be fair there were some.
@@LL-vk9zc lovely turn of phrase
Farrell showing on the second try of La Rochelle how brilliantly useless he is.
That sarries yellow indicates that rugby does not work. What is he supposed to do? Not clear out and concede a turn over? Or clear out lower and concede a penalty for clearing out off his feet?
Is this the first game of rugby that you’ve watched? Serious question if you don’t understand the yellow 🤷♂️
@@mcmustangno1567 yes it is a yellow. I’m not denying that. tell me what hes supposed to do in that situation?
@@888young2 well, not get sent off and concede the penalty would be a start, it was clearly dangerous play. The two options in your original comment are a start and/or, recognise that he can’t get lower and it’s a turnover 🤷♂️
Exactly, it means that all you have to do is drop your head to the tackled player and anyone who hits you gets carded. I agree that's nonsense and although I agree with improving safety.
, rugby games can now be won by playing for penalties.
@@andrewkelly7799 very hard to see how the game can go forward
Voilà une équipe qui ne doit rien à personne et surtout pas à l'arbitrage...
...contrairement à d'autres ! 😉
2:23 that is called a maul by for any other team. La Rochelle seem to get ref decisions that bail them out whilst in Europe
Is that a chip on your shoulder or a whole bag of potatoes?
@@erichalfbee503 pipe down rifle dropper
@@Nieljoyceniel You wrongly supposed that I am French just because I pointed out your sad little rant about a referee.
Yeah la Rochelle seemed to get so many decisions that could go either way. The ref clearly favouring the home side and the loud crowd
2nd week in a row that Joy Neville has interrupted proceedings with petty infringements that she has noticed.
How is the atmosphere better in La Rochelle than at Twickenham
Passion and a knowledgeable crowd, you won’t find that at Twickers, too corporate and you need a mortgage to buy a ticket. Most ‘english’ fans at Twickers are football fans and know next to nothing about the game on any level......
Less corporate more genuine fans. That's it. Look at the Toulouse game as well, that's what it should be like.
Winning team not kicking the ball into the air
@@mcmustangno1567 football fans can't afford Twickenham tickets 😂 what you on about. It's too much corporate and part-time fans.
Atmosphere at French club games is clear of anywhere else..
That last yellow feels v harsh. Made no difference to result obv
Are you kidding ? Should have been a red !
1:53 1'87 metre scrum half try
What's happen in English rugby at the moment ? As french rugby fan, I clearly don't recognize our beloved opponents !
Same crap dished up here as for England.
Gloucester showed how to beat, and should've, La Rochelle. Saracens clearly not done their homework!
The Premiership spends way too much on marquee players. Farrell is on BP 850K/year, in comparison N'Tamack is on BP460K/year although I think he has been raised to 600K recently. Likewise Itoje is on 800K/year... these are among the highest salaries in Europe and it is a real issue in England, that and the absence of strong lower divisions with a relegation/promotion system. The Prem is very aristocratic, it is run like a private golf course and it is killing both their clubs (Wasps, Worcester) but also their lower divisions and all the players that are registered as pro or semi pros. I mean when you look at a club like... the Bristol Bears. They are no powerhouse in Europe and yet they boast some of the highest salaries with Charles Piutau the first ever player to reach 1 Million Pound/year and other marquee players such as Radradra at 600K. How can you afford that when Stade Rochelais highest ever earners are still Victor Vito and Uini Atonio at 400K. I suspect Atonio might have got himself a raise after last year's title but the salaries in England are unreal and unrealistic and unsustainable. The salary cap does not tell the full story, the Premiership in rugby has the same issue as the Premier League in football: it buys DEBT. In France the DNCG control the finance of the clubs and even punish them as shown with Stade Francais, Albi, Bourgoin, Biarritz... clubs got relegated off the field. Wasp and Worcester were let free to buy debt till they went bankrupt and I suspect others will follow. How can you sustain salaries so high?
TKB was the only 9 who could match Aaron Smith.
Mako is shite when he has to scrummage legally 😂
@@thesaxon2266 he is past his best tho
@@thesaxon2266 yeah, from someone who never played rugby and only started watching it after you got fed up with football eh?
So is Genge. When they go straight, they usually get annihilated.
Sarries got schooled there
bro owen farell isn’t good anymore
Saracens dismissed at the breakdown nowhere near coping with that power
Most dangerous man on the field ? Andrew Brace.. pro English.
It can’t be otherwise than Toulouse - La Rochelle in finale with this level of game !
@@Peter-xu3zo doon’t kryy
@@Peter-xu3zo doon’t kryy
@@Peter-xu3zo doon’t kryy
Saracens were so poor in every compartment of the game. It was never close. Owen Farrell has been awful today, both on and off the ball.
Like all matchs he is doing.. fire him… it’s not with him English rugby will progress
@@Titteeeee he also needs to shut. Always in the ref's ears disputing the most non-sensical things, like when his player got a yellow instead of a red, he had the audacity to complain about the yellow. This guy is brainless.
next week he will have a reasonable game and everyone will say "it's settled, Farrell is England's on field captain. no debate." then he will continue playing badly
@@Titteeeee I still don't why he's still playing for England when they have Smith. He's just doing nothing. Thought from France.
Chasing shadows all day
Hard to tell from just highlights but Saracens looked poor. Commentator desperately trying to convince himself that they should be awarded a penalty try despite all the evidence to the contrary. Two bad displays.
Austin healy is such a poor commentator
I think the answer for Sarries is to bring Maro Itoje into the starting team. he was obviously missing for Sarries today. If he had played every minute today then the result would have been different.. oh no, wai- :/
he literally watches the replay and says arguably you could say theres cover? Healy is a prick but he calls it correct in correcting it.
Did you miss the part where the commentator adjusted his position once he had seen the evidence to the contrary? It happens at 5:03.
@@powerbite92 Maro played the entire game. What are you on about??
Leinster will have to deal with La Rochelles abilities at the breakdown.....should both teams make it through,theyre not only big men but smart and effective... and suffocated Saracens....Toulouse and Exeter are quality sides but a Leinster/La Rochelle final would be something. Worried leinster fan 😟
I have no investment in these teams or competition as a brumbies/ rebels fan. But the amount of high tackles and penalties Saracens didn’t get the ref was the worst ever or it was fixed rewatch the match in unbiased and felt Saracens never had a chance before the game started I mean Rochelle probably played better but still besides the Pooh t
Point *
I felt the same way watching the full match. I'm a harlequins fan so I don't mind who wins, but they were constantly hard done by with poor ref calls, disrupting their ability to get any momentum going. Ref siding with the home team constantly.
Having said that la Rochelle did put in a v good performance, can't fault them.
Not sad to see Saracens out.Bring on Rochettes for Chiefs to blow away 😂
4:27 - Skelton casually picks guy up off the ground with one hand.
The cheaters nullified! One of the most satisfying games I've ever watched!
What a sad individual...
@@pauljones3158 not sad, just happy a team who historically cheats is out of the champions cup
@finlay barlow So are they historically cheating now? Do you think most other sides have never ever overpaid their players by different methods? All the big sides have so im amazed after all these years jealous people are still trolling Saracens when they just plain hate Saracens and use this as an excuse. Just focus on your own team ...if you have one...
@@finlayD853 there's no need to justify yourself to Saracens fans
@@finlayD853 As a Leinster fan, Saracens were just trying to financially compete with us and french clubs. You lot shot yourselves in the foot banning them. State of English club rugby is shocking now.
Saracens players show signs of being out all night for beers
BT Sport commentary is laughable 😂
High tackle on Alex Lewington should = penalty try
As a saracens fan it was frustrating to watch this game but my friends who support Exeter potentially our biggest rivals agreed that the ref was shot today. You don’t call RELEASE and give the offending to the penalty after they proceed to not release . But we are gonna win the league so it don’t matter.
*shit
I agree. Ref made some shocking calls
The atmosphere and Singing make southern hemisphere super rugby seem very dour in comparison
english commentators on skelton knock out "no need for check" swings will arm without looking and then gets yellow!
Yellow submarines going to win again this year
@@Peter-xu3zoToulouse can beat them. They have real good players not like all english team 😂
@@Peter-xu3zo yep
Leinster will destroy any team who play them they played a 3rd team almost and made easy work, but with the injuries coming back we will beat any team in Dublin, it's FACT and I believe we will make history and get the 5 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 titles come on leinster 💙💙💙💚💚☘🇮🇪
@@chuck9960 true because one more time they receive Toulouse.. go to Toulouse or La Rochelle.. they will loose like last year in final
@@marcj4788 just normal with a final at’home..
This shocker puts paid to the myth of Farrell's scorching club form which is really the only justification for his place in the England side.
It showcased the totally ineffective attacking style so prevalent in the premiership.
Stade Rochelle were fairly poor I thought but ouldn't help themselves thrashing Saracens in every department
@@thesaxon2266 not afraid. We just want a competitive England to beat again.
If you watch the Saracens match videos closely you might see that Farrell is often by-passed, the tactic being scrum/lineout to flanker to inside centre - with Farrell only then coming in as a sort of secondary back-up player.
If you look at Farrells' passing yesterday, or his defensive positioning, it's easy to see why - so why the change?
Probably because Farrell is too stupid to read the 'plays', and gets in the way, just as he does with England.
No harm in trying an alternative - Smith or otherwise - byt Farrell HAS TO GO.
@@thesaxon2266 I quite agree with you. You fit the bill nicely.
However: I have refereed at European level, in the English Premiership, and have been used by the RFU to host incoming foreign referees who had little English dialogue to help them.
Any serious referee will understand how teams are trying to play, so that they can MANAGE the game better - pity Brace does not understand this - nor you, in all probability.
No matter, though, many sofas are on offer in the shops this weekend, so you might find one that fits.
Tout chouette!
@@leplessis8179
Wow you must be the 18th Referee I have seen commenting today alone.
@@thesaxon2266 the problem is really that England doesn't have any life, right now, and everyone actually does support a competitive England.
les Anglais qui chouine de l'arbitrage dans les commentaires c'est lunaires vraiment et je suis pas supporter de La Rochelle
Les supporters sarrie mauvais perdant
Agreed. Ref this ref that
Sarries well beaten but? I see it is high danger with no mitigation - that is a yellow then. La Rochelle - your players don't need to dive, that should have been a yellow, simulation cannot be allowed to poison this game like it has in football.
Clearly a Toulouse-La Rochelle finale
..or a Leinster-La Rochelle final repeat
I hope not. All top 14 fans would know the result before the game starts 😅
Toulouse !! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@@siorac69 A little modesty doesn't hurt !
@@kapok2731 What for ?
Boy did Austin Healey moan today! "It was a penalty try" - eh no. Two other players tracking across. The Saracens yellow card "It was just reckless, he didly even look up" - exactly! You have to look where you are putting your head and shoulders! What a muppet.
You don't ruck out with your head looking up. You go low with your head down. You've clearly never played rugby. It wasn't a yellow.
@@pushthetempo2 You clearly havent played rugby since 1989!
@@erichalfbee503 That would be some achievement, considering I was born in 1990. My wife says I come across as a grumpy old man as well. 😄
Looks like an anterior cruciate
yellow for that last clean out? nah come on now
Agreed, should've been red.
For the sarries try the ref got in the way of the La Rochelle defenders. He stands in the defensive line by the ruck and then moves leaving a gap. Next phase sarries went straight to the gap where the ref was stood and scored. Rugby will never move on as a sport until the rules/officiating improves!
Did the ref make the Saracens players miss 9 tackles in a single run aswell?
Didn’t deserve to win but what a joke from the referees you couldn’t be any lower to clear a ruck might as well not play the game anymore
It's hard to look beyond the French teams. So much bulk and budget.
Salaries at Saracens is twice that of Stade Rochelais on marquee players. For other players it is about the same.
But marquee players earns way more in the Premiership. Owen Farrell is on BP 850K/year, Itoje on 800K. Uini Atonio (and before him Victor Vito) is Stade Rochelais highest ever earner on 400K. That was his salary last year maybe he is on more now. But budget does not mean salary, budget means expenses in many other aspects than players: facilities (Toulouse has a restaurant and even a nightclub, world class gym and fields) then staff people, trainers, data specialists, then soirees for sponsors, then soirees for supporters, so the money does not go to players salary. Top 14 clubs are much wiser because the DNCG (financial controller) is on their back. Ask Biarritz, Bourgoin, Albi... or even Stade Français a few years ago. Toulouse is the native home of AIRBUS so with their results, they have always had a strong group of loyal investors but it also means they cannot spend in a stupid way. They have an obligation to remain financially viable hence the restaurant and nightclub. Supporters and players love it. For Stade Rochelais, they have the support of one local entrepreneur who is also the club owner and due to their result, they will probably attract more local investors and maybe a bit of public help for their facilities although this is always a struggle in France. Many clubs run away from public helps because they have to share their facilities as expected which is impossible for a professional outfit.
Well played La Rochelle and poor commentating! No sympathy for a team that cheated for years that were relegated but none of the Trophies they won were taken back, it seems wrong that cheats should prosper and I am glad they have not
lashings of money in French rugby, I think you'll find.
Again another sad bitter individual who has nothing better to do than slag off a fellow English club...
@Fast Eddie I think the French have no salary cap?
@@Danielpriceplays Sure there is! It is 10,7 millions €uro for this season. It will be 10,4 millions next season.
@@trartalacrem
Yes certainly there is a salary cap although this does not include credits from the union for development and fielding French players. So for a team like La Rochelle it will bring it approximately in line with Leinsters players program in 2022 of €14 million
Worth noting.
English ref (did his third level in Bristol) and proven Anglophile Joy Neville gift the English team their only try...
Why was Woolstencroft yellow carded?????
If you can't see a swing arm to the head of Skelton you need glasses 5 min 10 sec
Should have been red
Don't you know, if you are lower then knee height binding your own player and clearing a ruck and the opposition are sitting on their arse not moving away that is clearly your fault. The game is a joke no wonder there were more supporters in my days when the game was amateur.
@@Grumpy_Hobbit the name is accurate, skelton who had just made the tackle was on his side of ruck on the floor. Not really needed to be rucked out as he stopped his own team rucking for the ball. The thug which assaulted him had no control what so ever propelling himself forward without looking causing a brain injury to will. Skelton is not a small guy and his neck is very strong and he took large damage. If he had to be stretchered off due to said incident says something wrong mate 💀
@@Jeffisawesome536 The only assault here was by you on the English language.
Let me guess, you have never played the game but watch a lot of them....
I think the SA teams didn't take the comps seriously enough. HAVE to be top of the game to have a chance.
That Sarries yellow was pathetic BTW, what else must a guy do to clear out the ruck? It's turning into football and it's sad to see
Rewatching first 20 mins Saracens weren’t given maybe 7 penalties I want to become a fan of this comp in the future but even by super rugby standards that’s horrific officiating and I thought ours sucked lol
Quality of English rugby clearly taken a hit recently. Top 14 and URC are seemingly at a higher level. Saracens top of the league in England yet looked like an average team today and the scoreline could’ve been far worse. Sale second in the league in England, yet lost to Cardiff who are nowhere near the top teams in the URC table. Just two examples of the premiership teams being easily and surprisingly second best in Europe this season
Tomkins is an absolute joke
Karma.
Farrel.
A different referee could have seen a different result. Officials have too much influence on outcomes. LR were 9-3 up after 33 minutes without ever having entered the Sarries 22.
La Rochelle way too much better than Saracens today. Precisely the ref reput Saracens in the match.. the score could have been doubling for La Rochelle without that
sore loser, cry you piss less …
@@bluemaverick4268 ref didn’t give anything Saracens way. Sarries had them on ropes on counter attack but when they illegally stopped them, nothing. French tv directors strike again.
@@Nieljoyceniel Don’t cry baby boy. La Rochelle way too much better than Saracens today. Precisely the ref reput Saracens in the match.. the score could have been doubling for La Rochelle without that
@@bluemaverick4268 you like your own comments to make it look like people agree with you, need I say more.
Farrell being Farrell cheap hits on the French 9 all day long he is such a liability for Sars and England time for him to retire and get a job as a bouncer in some pub!!!
I know its not anything to do with this but I must comment on Austin Healys comment that the Irish Ref was bias towards La Rochelle and to quote him ( not the first time Irish Refs have been bias against English teams ) I am a Irish rugby fan for fifty years and I am discussed by his assertions such sore loosers it is beyond nasty and BT should not have him on their panel.
Poor english rugby… just awful… 😂
Andrew Brace cannot and should not referee he is simply incompetent , angry he ruined yet another good contest with ridiculous decisions , he must be blind on breakdown offenses and at the end he stood a few meter's away from an obvious knock forward and gave it as a try !, the match was a joke or should i say an embarrassment to rugby .
Worst referee I've seen in a long long time in the rugby...
My money is on an L L final. Leinster to take it, if they dont choke.
La Rochele have Leinsters number but home advantage will help
La Rochelle are not the as good as last season they easily could have lost this game, very overrated today, leinster will have to much or Exeter will probably beat them
When you are the Champions you no longer have the burden of proof , you can play average and still win and then turn it on when it really counts.
They've already won it , how they play is irrelevant , they will step up vs Exeter to another gear.
@F urc and theres 18 teams not 12
The best funny analysis for easter 😂
@F pro 12 hasn’t existed for some years and you’ve yet to factor the constant trips around the Globe in the URC
well last year probably everyone thought leinster were the clear favorite above them and still
you never know
I’m just sick of European teams injuring prem players. Every flipping year u just dread it coming and it does
Itoje being uselessly overrated as always
That's racist!!
Itoje will never ever get dropped from any team he plays in. After all, he is signed with media heavyweights RocNation. untouchable.
Not as always, a few years ago he was on fire. As his form dipped so did Englands under Eddie.
As a neutral (french) man, I thought Itoje had a good game and won key turnovers... 🤷🏻♂️
Itoje played a solid game. Come on.