Do you need to read notes to play the drums?
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
- Or: on some potential pitfalls of learning drums purely through reading notation, as well as only learning to play drums by ear.
I honestly didn't expect this video to turn out this long, and yet I still feel there's a lot more I could share on the subject! Hope it gives you some food for thought in your learning process.
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0:00 tldr; and intro
3:06 We all learn differently!
3:28 Dangers of just reading notation
4:13 Issue #1
5:32 You might miss this out
6:43 A tip
7:31 Issue #2
10:08 Dangers of just playing by ear
10:21 Issue #1
11:35 Issue #2
12:33 Issue #3
13:07 The full answer
16:32 Ending
So helpful! Thank you🙏🏼
This is great! I've never heard anyone speak about "kinesthetic sense" in relation to drums... And what you've said about the pros and cons of learning by ear and sight reading is totally logical.
Thank you! I'm just guessing at plausible different learning styles there, but I've definitely had students who just need to keep trying something physically before it clicks for them, while others figure it out better by writing out the notes, or there's some who catch it from listening to the part.
very helpful!!
Hello! Great video!! Happy Friday and happy August
Am so blessed to be learning from you 😍
Thank you for your trust! It's been a blessing to me as well working with you 🥰
I first started playing drums at around 16-17 years old, but always been interested in drums since I was 7-8. I listened to a lot of music and this is how I learned every song that I know: by listening. Needless to say that I have a huge memory.
Currently, with both of my bands, I play around 115 songs. Outside of these bands, I know hundreds of songs that I played with previous bands or simply for the fun of it, ranging from pop music to prog metal like Dream Theater, for example.
And on top of all that, I used to write drum parts with Guitar Pro back then, so I kinda know my music theory as well. I honestly think I'm at a confortable place between learning/playing by ear and being able to read notations.
With that being said, your video was top notch! I agree with you 100%! You got yourself a new sub! Cheers!
Thanks for sharing Michael! Your experience seems to be an ideal situation of how someone who learns well by ear and has a great audio memory can also strike a healthy balance between playing through listening and understanding notations. That's awesome!!
@@stalj Thank you!
excellent !!!you have it very well cover! ! I been playing for years as a child never learned to read notation and as adult i have set myself a goal to learn read notation just because music these days have evolve and lots have change in the dynamics of it. You have cover from every aspect on this video. Bravo to you
Thank you! And go you, that's a great goal 🙌🏼
me from gettin' started in church, no drummer gets a music book to read, u have to learn by ear and other drummers
Very insightful! As a self taught drummer I’ve often had imposter syndrome when learning and trying to replicate the original song note for note. Writing out notation would take more than the time available for practicing, especially for a time crunched work week while preparing for a weekend service. That being said if I had notations saved then I don’t need to relearn the song a second time. I certainly learn songs by ear or visually through drum cover videos. Your videos are very educational to show how drummers need to be musicians and listen to the rest of the band. Keep up the good work in teaching drummers to be better musicians!
Thank you! It does take some practice to be able to recognize what the key parts of the original song are and what less-critical details are just that individual drummer's flair - once you do that and come up with your own shorthand notation method it can take just one or two listens to get a rough chart out.
Wishing you well with your drumming and ministry! 🙌🏼
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So.. BOTH has it's own " pros and cons".. BUT... feels like that BOTH complete each other...
present ✋
Thanks for the input. I basically combat laziness in approaching new learning. However that isn’t true. I actually dislike growth that turns out to be a waste of time. However that also is not true since once I find the understanding which correlates the training into something valuable, I tend to find value in the past training growth. So I guess trust is the issue and as I have discovered, when you teach something with a spirit of quality (probably not the right word), I tend to absorb more with less judgment. So thank you for your teaching style. More by ear than by eye am I, but I am trying to strengthen both, even by feel (vibration).
That's a great point about learning to understand the literal feel of what you're playing as well, and something infrequently mentioned!
Personally, growing up, I hated trying to learn from notation. If I had to learn a piece straight from the sheet music, it could take me all day. If I listened to someone play it, I had it in 30 minutes. Kind of like a picture is worth a thousand words. Thus, I never learned notation well, other than the basics, and the thought of sight reading scard me to death. However, very early on, I had a natural sense of phrasing, I knew where long fills and short fills should be, I could keep a beat in 2/4,3/4, 4/4 or 6/8, I knew where breaks should fall, I knew where to play quieter, and louder. Only later did I learn about counting, 8-16 bar phrasing, verse, chorus, bridge, time signatures, etc. And, only then did I have any understanding of what I was doing, and I think my improv ability increased dramatically when I could think about the music in notation.
I have to think that every new drum piece starts from improvization, either between the drummer and song writer, or just by the drummer listening to what the writer has put together initially. Then, after working out the feel, adding breaks, bridge, fills, etc. it can be preserved in a drummer's notations. To try and do it the opposite way, I think it would sound like a computer wrote the song.
Thanks for sharing your experience, and how both learning by ear and reading worked for you! I'm sure many who learn better through hearing would be able to relate. On composition - yes and no, I feel it depends on genre! Lots of metal songs have initial drums programmed, and then perhaps the drummer improvises based on that structure to "humanise" the final outcome. Or even pop songs, now that I think of it - and then live drummers reinterpret those parts for tours. But for many rock songs it definitely starts out as improv as you've mentioned!
Can I please know about the metronome filling and all
Bout metronome pls a video
As a drummer apart from reading drum notations, is it equally as important as knowing piano chords notation / theory? If so how do you practice or learn from a drummer perspective? I would like to expand my knowledge musically. Thanks!
Ooh, that's a tough one. It's definitely not as important to know chord notation as it is rhythm, I'd think it's just important to be able to hear basic progressions in a song as well as chord cycles, as well as identify different instruments in a piece of music. How to go about learning that is tricky though! Personally for me, learning basic acoustic guitar helped me understand chords quite a bit; if you can spare the time, dabbling in at least one other melodic instrument might help. Listening to other instrument covers in isolation can also help you understand a little better how the various parts work together too!
@@stalj thank you for your reply and input!!☺️
That's interetsing, even if I never learned how to play drums. :)
Glad to hear it 🙏🏼
What drum notation software are you using on your covers?
I use Sibelius!