As per some previous comments...all point rigging is assembled on the ground by the ground rigger - NOT IN THE AIR by the top rigger! The top rigger/s will lower in a line (either rope or an electric winch) & the ground rigger will attach the top rigging to the line, usually also along with the chain hook of the chain motor. The top rigger will set the point & the ground rigger will direct the top rigger if any adjustements need to be made. After that the motor is floated & can be attached to the truss.
I love the overview, very good as an introduction but there is one point that should be clarified. The points are built completely on the ground, not in the air. One extra shackle is included to complete the loop that goes around the beam (working shackle and basket in technical terms). This way it eliminates the need to manipulate loose items in the air, with the exception of one shackle pin.
Not to mention, this way you need to pull up one point twice. On a big venue, where you need to hang 15-20 points/rigger, no one have time for this. And if the basket is a big one, you just have much more trouble this way...
Where I'm from, ground riggers build all the point. Nothing is built in the air if possible. The up rigger or high rigger lowers their rope that brings up the "tackle" and the hook end of the motor.
"Every once in a while you will hear "Chain spill" '' just before you hear "Get off my Deck!", Chain spill is avoidable and as stage crew and ground riggers alike, our jobs is to insure safety of all on deck.. People can die if we lose focus..
Its kind of ridiculous. Imagine for example, a Metallica build. 120+ people all over the place, more than 150 hanging points to rig. If the ground rigger should shoo away everyone, the job is never done :D In hungary, if you are in a venue, you look after yourself. Riggers above? Hard hat on, thats it. If you dont wear it and get yourself injured, its your problem, AND, you are banned from the arena.
Everyone on the arena floor should be wearing hard hats when the riggers are in the roof. Occasionally some people (usually loaders) dont wear a hard hat & get told to put one on. Im not shy tellin them to get their hats on!
@@maladjustedtv Remember that sometimes loaders are basically local guys getting a one night "roadie gig". Half of those working the loading don't know what's going on, much less basic safety. They are just grabbing what they are told and move it. Aside from rigging, I've done my share of loading gigs as well, and even if I was not near the rigging area and just doing the truck in/out, I'll still wear a hat. There's truss, cases, hardware and stuff everywhere to hit your head on while moving about. It's like loaders not wearing work gloves. Common, and really dumb.
Ok first of all: We would never Climb up to the top of a steel-struction and tie a rope and get the chain. We would rather take a lift or Crane lift, but that is just if it is less than 30ft over the ground. For some big arena stages, they have bridges on the roof. For the second thing: We never gives warnings (Because everybody who are stage providers are informed when and where Things are, and Dangerous areas). For the Third thing: the chain do not fall to the ground, it goes in to a small bag. This video is for People who are not riggers or structual engineers or some sort of stage providers, it is just for audience who are very curious.
Once the main arena in my city is done with renovations, the grid over the stage will be all open beam walking... it used to have a lovely series of catwalks. Not sure of details, but we've heard rumors that the grid height will be 95'. Expecting to be a bit spooked walking out on those!
@@AB-80X yes, many times. In fact in a couple hours I'll be going up again. Also, to update my last comment, that arena is done. Yes it is open beam, but with catwalks too. We set up so people on the cat pull the chain up, and the person on the beam just has to connect the point. Pretty swanky, and way safer than trying to balance on the beam. I still do that sometimes at other venues though!
@@slowgold20 Ah yes, I kinda thought it would be like that. That's really how they build them these days. If I was a contractor building a new area, I'd factor in rigging too. A shame though. Working pure open beam stuff is so much fun. I'll be going up at a place in Sweden in a few days. Place was built in the late 60's I think. No catwalks, and most "beams" are not even I, T, H beams, they are round tube lol. World's largest monkey cage, it's gonna be awesome😀 Stay safe up there my man.
How will you do that if you're at a venue where you cannot secure a pulley above the top guy? Yes you can secure pulleys sometimes, but far from always. These are not THAT heavy, and the floor guy is always out of the way while making sure the load does not start to swing. If pulling the point up is the hardest part of the job, then it's an easy job dude.
I know this is an old video but "this person" and "they" works as a gender neutral option to "this guy" and "he." Let's make people of all genders feel welcome here :)
As per some previous comments...all point rigging is assembled on the ground by the ground rigger - NOT IN THE AIR by the top rigger! The top rigger/s will lower in a line (either rope or an electric winch) & the ground rigger will attach the top rigging to the line, usually also along with the chain hook of the chain motor. The top rigger will set the point & the ground rigger will direct the top rigger if any adjustements need to be made. After that the motor is floated & can be attached to the truss.
Great work! I'll be using these to teach my volunteers. Thanks guys!
This is amazing, so helpful! Thank you!!!!
Very well-explained. Fabulous
I've been doing shows for about 30 years if there is something new that I am not sure about I always go back to the basics
I love the overview, very good as an introduction but there is one point that should be clarified. The points are built completely on the ground, not in the air. One extra shackle is included to complete the loop that goes around the beam (working shackle and basket in technical terms). This way it eliminates the need to manipulate loose items in the air, with the exception of one shackle pin.
B A yup, an open basket.
It's called a rock and roll span set. Like you said you only need to set one shackle to join span set.
Not to mention, this way you need to pull up one point twice. On a big venue, where you need to hang 15-20 points/rigger, no one have time for this. And if the basket is a big one, you just have much more trouble this way...
I'm easily understanding thank you so much for your explaining
pls make more vids i need them sm
Girls are stagehands too :)
Drop the other end of the rope so the grounder can help you pull the load.
That only works if you have a point within reach above you, where you can set a pulley. And not every venue have that kind of structure
Where I'm from, ground riggers build all the point. Nothing is built in the air if possible. The up rigger or high rigger lowers their rope that brings up the "tackle" and the hook end of the motor.
Yep. The more you have to mess with upstairs, the greater the chance of something coming down fast.
What is a rig?
what about the wiring?
What about it?
"Every once in a while you will hear "Chain spill" '' just before you hear "Get off my Deck!", Chain spill is avoidable and as stage crew and ground riggers alike, our jobs is to insure safety of all on deck.. People can die if we lose focus..
Shit lol
I never have had a ground telling me to stay away
Ive had most give some form of warning but some dont
Its kind of ridiculous. Imagine for example, a Metallica build. 120+ people all over the place, more than 150 hanging points to rig. If the ground rigger should shoo away everyone, the job is never done :D In hungary, if you are in a venue, you look after yourself. Riggers above? Hard hat on, thats it. If you dont wear it and get yourself injured, its your problem, AND, you are banned from the arena.
Everyone on the arena floor should be wearing hard hats when the riggers are in the roof. Occasionally some people (usually loaders) dont wear a hard hat & get told to put one on. Im not shy tellin them to get their hats on!
@@maladjustedtv
Remember that sometimes loaders are basically local guys getting a one night "roadie gig". Half of those working the loading don't know what's going on, much less basic safety. They are just grabbing what they are told and move it. Aside from rigging, I've done my share of loading gigs as well, and even if I was not near the rigging area and just doing the truck in/out, I'll still wear a hat. There's truss, cases, hardware and stuff everywhere to hit your head on while moving about. It's like loaders not wearing work gloves. Common, and really dumb.
Ok first of all: We would never Climb up to the top of a steel-struction and tie a rope and get the chain. We would rather take a lift or Crane lift, but that is just if it is less than 30ft over the ground. For some big arena stages, they have bridges on the roof. For the second thing: We never gives warnings (Because everybody who are stage providers are informed when and where Things are, and Dangerous areas). For the Third thing: the chain do not fall to the ground, it goes in to a small bag.
This video is for People who are not riggers or structual engineers or some sort of stage providers, it is just for audience who are very curious.
Once the main arena in my city is done with renovations, the grid over the stage will be all open beam walking... it used to have a lovely series of catwalks. Not sure of details, but we've heard rumors that the grid height will be 95'. Expecting to be a bit spooked walking out on those!
@@slowgold20
You've been up yet? Jealous🙂
@@AB-80X yes, many times. In fact in a couple hours I'll be going up again. Also, to update my last comment, that arena is done. Yes it is open beam, but with catwalks too. We set up so people on the cat pull the chain up, and the person on the beam just has to connect the point. Pretty swanky, and way safer than trying to balance on the beam. I still do that sometimes at other venues though!
@@slowgold20
Ah yes, I kinda thought it would be like that. That's really how they build them these days. If I was a contractor building a new area, I'd factor in rigging too. A shame though. Working pure open beam stuff is so much fun.
I'll be going up at a place in Sweden in a few days. Place was built in the late 60's I think. No catwalks, and most "beams" are not even I, T, H beams, they are round tube lol. World's largest monkey cage, it's gonna be awesome😀
Stay safe up there my man.
Yo! What up ma' Rigga'!😀
I thought the safe way was to drop the rope and have the ground pull the gear up rather than the poor guy that's in the air.
How will you do that if you're at a venue where you cannot secure a pulley above the top guy? Yes you can secure pulleys sometimes, but far from always. These are not THAT heavy, and the floor guy is always out of the way while making sure the load does not start to swing. If pulling the point up is the hardest part of the job, then it's an easy job dude.
I know this is an old video but "this person" and "they" works as a gender neutral option to "this guy" and "he." Let's make people of all genders feel welcome here :)
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