Charlamagne: Chris Brown Can't Touch Justin Timberlake
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- www.vladtv.com/ - Famed radio personality Charlamagne tha God shares his thoughts on Justin Timberlake's career longevity, and explains that he's more like Michael Jackson than Chris Brown. He also explains how Chris' actions allowed him to be passed over as the "King of Pop" by Justin.
No one can be MJ. I can appreciate CB cause he's not trying to be MJ. He does tributes and odes to him but he's not trying to be him.
+John Miles And he does them better than anyone else.
CB is just a worse MJ. JT doesn't need to try to be in the same league as MJ
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Exactly and all these other dudes are either tryna be MJ with stage presence and style or they tryna be Chris vocal wise.
@@thedarkness5133 worse mj wtf 😂😂😂 just stop talking.
Agreed. As expected, Charlamagne droppin' science on ya'll. Justin Timberlake hands down is a household favorite just like MJ was and still is. Chris Brown is talented no doubt. I'm a CB fan. He sings really well, he's a phenominal dancer, and I feel that he has longevity in the game as long as he cleans up his image a little more, but JT supercedes him because he speaks to the both the mature and the young audiences alike. CB is only appealing to one that I see. To put it to you like this, I'd rather my daughter jam out to the 20/20 experience than "These hoes ain't loyal". It is what it is. My opinions people.
Cosign. Timberlake albums maturing in sound as he ages. Brown stuck in a box with his albums.
CB fan hu???
Calvin Estes Chris brown can't sing live also Justin humble and nice cb is a bitch
MOLE What? Chris Brown singing This Christmas and Silent Night says otherwise..... Much more talented vocalist than JT
MOLE You Cleary haven’t been following Justin Timberlake very long the dude is a known ass hole
Chris Brown and MJ shouldn't be uttered in the same sentence
+Jio'vanni Delvalle I don't know if that's true or not but even if it is, so what, MJ was SO much more than a pop singer. He revolutionized popular music. He broke barriers and blended his style into nearly every genre of music. Chris Brown won't stand the test of time like Michael has. No disrespect to Chris though, I still think he's immensely talented.
+Jake Grogan yesssd
I agree mj was more than a musician
You just used them in the same sentence. Congrats.
Eric B & Rakim 😅😅 & love your username.
True. Usher def deserves to be in this convo. Usher had shit on lock for awhile. Confessions is a fucking classic.
yes it is....i still listen to album to this day and 8701 I LOVE THOSE ALBUMS
All facts
All lies
NO ONE AND I REPEAT NO ONE CAN COMPARE OR EVEN REACH THAT LEVEL AS MICHAEL 'KING OF POP' JACKSON
Yep lol
Prince is way better. He is an artist. Mike can sing okay and was a great performer and dancer. They are in different classes and the class the princes in is in the godly class. Mike the sexual deviant. Hahaha fuckthat creep
Hold ur ass No one compares to Mj
Coming from a musician, not a biased listener who doesn't know what they're talking about. Justin does make better music. He has more soul, and he's way more put together than Chris Brown. Every time I hear Justin's music, it is reminiscent of Michael Jackson's glory days. If you can't see it now, you will over time. But as far as Chris Brown goes, he's another gimmick. Justin hasn't put out in album in nearly 10 years, Chris Brown has numerous records, when he could have took the best songs off of everyone of those records, and made a great pop record. Which is what Justin has done on all 4 of his albums. He wanted to make good music, and he took his time, worked on it, made an amazing double-album that stands up against Justified and FutureSex. Musicians that are in it for the music always come out on top.
What's crazy is those are the two best male singers and my two favorite singing artist and I hate to admit it but he right justin can go away for 5 years and then come back and still kill shit
Anybody with talent can do that. R.Kelly did it, MJ could have done it, and Chris can do that also, but there's no reason for him to do that. Why would you purposely NOT put out music if you have hit records in the vault?. Maybe JT didn't have anything new at the time or maybe he was busy with something else. You don't win by doing nothing.
What are you talking about dude, jt is winning and doing that
daniel sims I mean as far as being the closest to MJ?
@demetrius orum oh yea that shit charlamagne was squawkin is bullshit there will never be a closest to mj, but chris brown may be the best dancer ever but jt has a different style than mj, chris brown too you can't compare anyone to mj
Its 2020 where is Justin i dont see him no where i see chris brown on a million hooks and he put an album out got awards for it where is Justin again and
Charlamagne speaks the truth hear! I agreed with everything he said. Justin Timberlake is the closest thing we have to a new MJ. Chris Brown isn't making records classic like JT, I love Usher, but he's pretty much washed up, and there's really nobody else out there to mention.
I like JT and all but Chris is the more talented overall entertainer. Who the better singer is between the two is debatable.
I honestly think both are really talented musicians. Both have a pretty good catalogue and discography. I guess it just come down to preference.
Totally agree great interview!
Chris better than Justin. In 25/50 years we'll be loving CB songs still n da club. Still n the bedroom. Still in the ballrooms. JT might get ballrooms. JT might get some white clubs/bedrooms. CB will b in both wht/blk ...i.e. MJ.
I don't think In 25 years anyone will listen to CB, it's just trash content, it only works because we in a moment in society where it's acceptable. Most of his songs are a copy and paste.
+Mary Jane you're completely off base. So you mean to tell me 25 years from now, people will still be listening to songs like, "These hoes ain't loyal"? Or better yet "Ayo" or "Look at me now"? LMFAO. Really think about that.
Real live if you look at the vocal skills of either, JT has been consistently good, whereas CB was shoddy when he first came out. He obviously got some coaching and is incredibly better, but he has a long way to go to be on par with JT.
While JT may only have a few albums, he has been doing music since the 90s. He's been doing music since before CB was close to relevant, and he has been dominating in Pop ever since. Not only that he has the added bonus of being multi-talented as well as universally accepted and appreciated. CB doesn't even consistently put out an outstanding type of music. And by that I mean, that while he has an easily recognizable voice, he does not make music that strikes me as uniquely CB. When Michael Jackson made a song it oozed his own personal style. When JT makes a song, it does the same; you know who he is as an artist and you know what he's going to bring to the table. All CB is really bringing right now, besides the drama he uses to stay in the public eye, is catchy music.
At the end of the day, they are both incredible artist who could both benefit from growth and improvement. Neither of them are perfect, and they wouldn't ever be because perfection is humanly impossible. However, JT makes it a point never to disappoint. He may not release an album every year, but every album he releases is outstanding. The day that CB begins producing music that has both that unique quality and the same level of time and effort, we can talk about him possibly being the king of anything.
I've never heard of this guy, but I could watch him talk about things all day hahahahaha
Chris Brown we fell in love with at the beginning and over time we lost that due to his actions....I personally did not fall in love with Justin until he went solo..I wasn't necessarily looking for him in Nsync....Chris Brown has talent and so does Timberlake...Lets just say that Justin Timberlake's music is for the grown and sexy...while Chris browns music really isn't ....my opinion
Justin Timberlake is similar to Prince(both play instruments well and sing) and The Weeknd is similar to MJ(both focus on the power of singing more than variety of instruments and diff colors of sound like JT and Prince-- FutureSexLoveSounds like Purple Rain) this day and age. Prince and MJ are Legendary
The Weeknd does not dance....ergo is not an entertainer......ergo is irrelevant to the discussion.
+Patrick Duval prince never held a candle to MJ or JT. his best song was purple rain, and it was only OK
***** truely agree to what your saying. Yeah Chris Brown got that little something because he can do Michael Jackson moves but that don't make him the next Michael Jackson. I'm not a hater of Chris Brown whatsoever, but compared to JT, ain't no other and the VMAs definitely proved that.
When Charlamagne is right, He's right. Never thought i would say that.
Justin Timberlake is not that good. I remember him back in the day changing the way he spoke when he was on BET than on MTV. He would intentionally speak "urban" talk and misplace words to identify with Blacks and that disgusted me. He was also weak for blaming that Janet Jackson incident all of her and running like a weakling. Never have and never will respect JT.
You know when you have a clean background, they let things like this side. I like his first albums but as a person I fuck with with until that Super Bowl, after that I never give two fucks for him ever again. Chris could still get himself together but he has to make the choice himself and also he need to remove himself from everyone including his mother. I wish Michael had a hold of him before he died, I believe he would of gave him a good pep talk.
shiabaybay Yes you are right, and I also lost the little respect I had for him when he pulled that Superbowl stunt and I can't believe people allowed him to get away with that against Janet of all people and let her take the blame for all of it.
Chris Brown will never be another MJ... Charlamagne is dead on with this one.. Vlad you shouldnt have even debated it, easy read on JT being the new king of pop music... EASY
As far as I'm concerned, just because MJ died doesn't mean his crown is up for grabs. It really isn't even down to matter of opinion, it has to do with solid facts. Unless someone comes along and beats his records for best selling album, most grammies earned in a night, biggest concert audience, the list goes on. Until they are able to conquer that, then they gotta settle as 'Prince of Pop'.
Timberlake could accurately hold that title, except he isn't as naturally gifted of a dancer as Chris Brown, so he has competition with Chris regarding that title, but as far as being the King is concerned, you gotta knock MJ off his throne and that's not going to happen.
Agreed
ali z nails it absolutely right , until they both proceed the king of pop both chris brown and justin timberlake are second rate acts. even tho im a fan of all 3, facts are facts lets be real.
Shut up. I see u all over mj videos. Chill out
i hope that shut up wasnt gear to me, cause for one nobody on this earth can tell me or even think shutting up. anybody can sound tough on a keyboard that dont mean shit. im all for voice of opinions bout aint nothing getting directed towards me let make that clear that dont ever happen in reguards to me , just saying have a nice day.
Facts
Here's the problem...Charlamagne is comparing SUCCESS rather than RESEMBLANCE....i looked at some JT videos the other day and i saw BARELY anything he did that reminded me of MJ.....i looked at some CB videos saw ALOT of things that made you think of MJ...even people made comments saying how they thought of MJ....those videos are.....
''Yea 3x''
''Fine China''
''With You''
''Turn Up The Music''
''Sweet Love''
''She Ain't You''
''Forever''
Another thing i noticed is that CB is more creative because ALL of his videos look completely different than the previous one...JUST LIKE MJ.....when Charlamagne said...''Name a classic Chris Brown album'...he was basically saying.....''Whoever has more album sales is more like MJ''......that's like saying that if LeBron win 6 rings...he's more like Jordan than the guy that's flying in the air with 0 rings.....the guy that's flying in the air will REMIND you of Jordan and is MORE LIKE Jordan than the guy with 6 or 7 rings....so him saying that JT is more like Michael Jackson because he's more SUCCESSFUL than CB is stupid.....you have to look at other things....and everybody knows that 90% of albums have at least 2 or 3 hits..and the rest of the songs are crap....i'm pretty sure 20/20 Experience,Justified or FutureSex/Love Sounds didn't have ALL HITS...and neither has CB's albums....and to be quite honest...CB has more music AND more Hits than JT....he has a total of 21 hit records before the age of 25...imagine what's going to happen in the next 10 years....JT CAN'T TOUCH Chris....Chris will trump EVERYBODY once he gets his ish together.....Chris is more like MJ DESPITE his personal life.
Do your research on hits concerning Justin Timberlake,and don't hold your breath waiting for Chris Brown.
JT has maybe 25 hits..(including Nsync) throughout a 19 year period.....Chris is in his 9th year with 20+ hits....yea he's in jail....but he's still gonna do music regardless....he will have at least 2 hit records this year..i guarantee it.
Update: Oops...looks like he already has one..,,,,''Loyal''
Demetrius Orum ur gay
👌I Agree
Demetrius Orum what's actually funny is Chris Brown hasn't sold NEARLY as many albums as JT
Chris could of been on that level he just get into too much trouble.
+mexia23 chris as literally dubbed to be the next michael jackson by the industry when he first came out, but as soon as he beat rihanna he fell off, i think he has realised that now cos he started rapping and putting out his urban records tryna be some type of thug
What's the difference between MJ and Chris Brown? A child and a woman. If ykyk
Johnny Gat You mean MJ being innocent and Chris Brown pleading guilty to assault? Stfu
naahhh ..Chris only serves a small age group.. older folks would had never had respected him..
He wouldn't ever hit that level. MJ to this day way after death is a global phenomenon. He's like Bruce Lee. Muhammad Ali. He was a goddamn super hero in the music industry. Chris Brown as a well behaved person could never do it like that
MJ was not "strictly pop". He touched all genres; disco, soul, rhythm and blues, rock, new jack swing, he did it all.
Pop= popular music
Vlad just contradicts his own argument...
Charlamagne: "Name a classic Chris Brown album"
Vlad: "I focus on the singles", in other words he doesn't know any or think they're anything special, and suggests Chris's worth is in his singles. But then in the next point, he goes on to say "Well Chris Brown puts out more records"... But you've just rendered his records a useless attribute, so the quantity means nothing.. and reinforces the point charlamagne makes that pound for pound, the material JT puts out is better than anything Chris Brown is doing. That's the Michael Jackson factor.
In *shortest* terms JT>CB, but I wanted to highlight the contradictions here, the guy is trying to say Chris brown is better for this and that, but then going on to say that 'this and that' aren't where his value lies.. it cancels itself out. his worth eats it's own tail.
opinion doesn't negate facts
I believe his 1st album would be considered a classic... Every single was a hit
I have to agree with dude. Charlemagne broke it down! Justins' VMA performance was cray cray and for Charlemagne to use the word "Timeline" hit it perfect. Justin gave a historical performance that evening. Chris Brown over saturates the public with his appearance. Justin makes rare appearances and therefore we want to see him more and with that Justins' appearances are top notch quality entertainment.
The thing is JT is less problematic.
+Loren Baker FAR less lol
+Loren Baker Chris could've revolutionised the industry with his own style.... sometimes you scratch your head and be like, Okay 😕
Yeah, he doesn't beat up women
not sure the superbowl agrees.
Except I wish Justin beat up that pussy Chris Brown back like a TKO!!!!
"he puts out more records"??? that doesn't equate to greatness. quality over quantity. JT is a GOAT imo.
1st, I'm a fan of both, but i agree that the media won't let chris become a elite artist. if he had did mirrors, it probably wouldn't got big like it is, but you never know. 2nd, nobody can't come close to michael. he's in a class of his own. and 3rd, justin never sold more than usher"s confessions. some people forgot how big that album was, 10xplatinum in the u.s alone,20 million worldwide? spent 5 weeks no.1, drop off, reclaim the spot for 9 more weeks? come on, man
Great observation!
also, is a classic album define by how many copies it sell or that every song on it is good, you don't have 2 skip?
I love Justin but he doesn't have enough songs to compete with Chris Brown
Usher actually has classic albums. I just don't think his audience is old enough yet. Chris Brown not having a classic album is not really fair comparison because we don't really do albums anymore. It is hard to find classic albums before 1970 and after 2005. Trying to compare anyone to MJ is just not really fair.
Charlamangne is so right Chris Brown is in jail right now,and Justin Timberlake is on his sold out world tour. Enough said!!
Him being in jail doesn't have anything to do with it. That's people's main problem they're worrying about their personal lives instead of the main thing, their music. That's what he is comparing, not their personal life.
Usher Raymond is rolling over in his grave right now hahaha
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Thank you
Now its Justin Timberlake can't touch Chris Brown. That's why you never talk shit before someone even gets to the prime of their career!
If chris brown didn't beat up Rihanna he would've been one level below Michael Jackson, but he isn't smart enough to take care of his public image and now his worth is soooo much less, Justin Timberlake is a great Talent and a smart artist, he has taken care of his public image and it has paid off!
Chris would have been one level below Usher maybe but Michael Jackson? HELL no. In what way? Michael still would have sold way more records and have been way more talented.
@@culkingsed I consider Usher and Justin Timberlake on the same level tho
@@nandochavez4546 If you look at their careers as a whole, I'd say they are on the same level, but Usher in his prime was bigger than JT. Usher has a diamond album. JT has had longevity because he is about quality instead of quantity and only drops dope albums (except for his last one 🤮).
@@culkingsed I agree especially with the last part, what the hell was he thinking?
@@nandochavez4546 I think he was rushing to make a product because it had been 4 years since his last album he didn't want people to forget about him.
I agree with him. JT is the Man. MJ is the KING JT is the Prince. Usher is 3rd and and Chris is after them. JT since he was a kid was talented and stay consitence. Albums Movies. Usher Chris and JT all have or had bad news press but JT news press is light work compare to them. JT and Janet had a clothin error BIG FREAKIN DEAL Chris had anger issues which is worst and Usher has baby mama drama which is a bad look. So in my opinion JT is the Prince of POP
Did Usher die? How does a radio persona & DJ forget about Confessions & Usher's stage performances?
Rightttt got damn wtf
Usher is a forgotten star kinda like Britney Spears they were big once but they really ain’t make no impact at all just have hits and sold a lot
Nobody can come close to Michael Jackson, i mean 9 albums and Thriller the best selling albums of all time!!! OF ALL TIMES !
***** Thriller is still great even today. In fact the music video has 150 million views, so i would say thats pretty good.
***** Album sales don't tell the whole story I agree, but in my opinion no one will come close to Michael Jackson in our lifetime. He was a performer at an age some kids couldn't even read. It's literally illegal to train someone to be of MJ's caliber by the time they're in their 20s (forcing him to rehearse routines, sing in strip clubs, train your vocals or else you get beat up by your dad) this is important because if you're not a famous pop star by the time you're 30 it's over. By the time he was 24 and released Thriller it could not have been at a more optimum time- the 80's. I can't see an era anytime soon that will rival the excess, hedonism, celebrity worship and homogeneity that is the 80's. Also the fact that Thriller is a fucking masterpiece.. but that kinda goes without saying.
JessikahAznBabyy couldnt have said any better, bravo!
***** stfu hater. MJ is the best deal with it. you mad? lol
JessikahAznBabyy Agreed
Chris puts out way more material that's a feat in itself he's a good actor & great dancer. His STUPID tats & personal conflicts affected his potential. He should be worth 80 mill easy with all platinum plaques but that'll never happen smh.
that's what i always said. After that Rihanna thing, instead of proving media wrong, he proved them right.
Chris Brown was on his way be a giant in the industry.
youruglymugg ...WAS.....but now he is fucked!
I'm pretty sure all his albums except Graffiti went platinum/multi platinum.
this dude CTG gone grow up 2 be uncle ruckus
Chris Brown has surpassed Justin come on... Style dance voice
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Music wise no
@Kadafi Jo hell nah
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Preach Charlamagne Quality is better than Quantity!
Chris has better both!
Id have to disagree seeing as Chris' vocal performances during live shows are sub par and none of his albums have recieved a substantial critical review. To be the next best your albums need to have some acclaim. Dancing can't simply save your musical performance.
C3 Musiq Chris Brown in the Fame and Fortune era was the pinnacle of live male performance and his albums don’t get critically acclaimed because of the biased media from the incident with Rihanna.. Tbey were even trashing Fame the biggest comeback album ever and being praised everywhere and won a Grammy.... But yet every single album he drops goes platinum and very successful....
@@c3musiq Chris has generic radio hits. He ain’t dropped nothing classic in a long ass minute nor anything near as impactful ever
@@MINK2393 Chris really can’t sing that well live and his albums are painfully bloated and mediocre
Charlamagne makes some valid points tho !!
yeah especially when he said the public will never allow kobe be the next michael jordan and chris brown to be the next michael jackson.
That why he good to watch, because he always does.
Chris brown has always had poppin music and so has jt. Doesn't matter if jt is better right now, cause eventually chris brown will be better cause hes only 24/25.
Chris isn’t getting better though
FAME is a classic Chris brown album to me.
Exclusive, as well.
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1. FAME; 2. Exclusive; 3. Royalty 🔥
Charlamagne makes a very valid point. Chris brown musically doesn't even compare to Justin Timberlake, but unfortunately we live in an era where people don't listen and value true good music. Its all about image and Chris screwed his up years ago. Don't get me wrong I'm a fan of Chris Brown but he's made choices in his career and life that has forever made me rethink his intensions.
Oh please I have to disagree, but everyone has their opinions. Chris is way more talented than timberfake, the only thing is Chris ruined his looks with those ugly ass tattoos and all his issues with the media, if he get's his act together and concentrate on his music and leave the drama, drugs and hanger on he should be fine. he's an immensely talented young man.
***** Just no... Justin Timberlake can, will and does: outsell Chris Brown (singles, records and concerts), out perform Chris Brown, out sings Chris Brown and completely out ranks Chris Brown. Chris Brown is black famous, similar to Bow Wow, Omarion, Meek Mills. He's not famous. Justin Timberlake, Jay Z, Timbaland, Beyoncé- they are famous.
If Chris didn't get into all that drama with Rihanna and all of the other stuff that went on as well he would still Be on top the "white" fell in love with him when he started making pop miso and I do believe if he hadn't ruined his image he would still have their love and still be on top I love JT by the way
Jamila not everyone is buying the hype of justin timberfake. that "blue eyed soul movement" is transparent, don't believe the hype.
***** You are right in saying everyone has a right to their opinion, so with that, I respectfully disagree. Chris Brown is an amazing dancer, but JT has more reach. He is interested in so many musical genres and the proof is in his catalog. His brand stretches from sports (golf in particular) to charity works, music and film. On top of that, as he grew, his music developed with his target audience. I love both guys, but JT is by far the better brand and his career will probably outlast CB.
8 years later and Chris Brown still killing it..Timberlake is cold, no new material and he’s washed.
This didn’t age well.
He got a point, Neither Justin nor Chris will be what Michael Jackson was but the one who is the King of Pop now would have to be Justin
Agreed!!
once again charlamagne is completely right! the only thing i think i really disagree w/ charlamagne on is his opinions on drake. be real ppl....chris brown isn't even near JT's level! leave race out of it because it has absolutely NOTHING to do with his talent level & that's a fact period. please tell me who else could leave & not put out an album for SEVEN years & come back, still be just as relevant, & drop incredible music again like it's nothing???!! you're telling me that chris could do that? lol he has to stay putting out music all the time to have any hope of staying relevant. like charlamagne said, it's QUALITY over quantity pure & simple. JT has the pop throne now & nobody out could come close to taking his place.
Tupac.
um tupac wasn't an r&b/pop singer lol.
I meant who can be gone for 7 years and still put out an album and be relevant lol
yea that's obvious. he'd be the only one in rap/hip hop that could do that just like JT is the only r&b/pop singer out now that could do that.
Haha tupac still out
Charmalagne speaks the truth
he speaks the truth now cause it what you wanna believe to be true or you share the same sentiments.. either way its not the truth
Dude calls himself a God.... fool status
JT got time on Chris. Don't get me wrong, both are damn talented but JT is smarter with his career choices and I think that's what helps him.
Was MJ smarter with his career choices?
@@magick8288 business wise yes he was
@@justaguywholikeshentai4093 no he wasn’t he had people managing everything he did but the choices he made wasn’t smart
@@magick8288 that was in end after the allegations but before he made alot wise business deals that no other artist that can come close to....he own half of the music industry at one point
@@DanielDucranOfficial he didn’t make those deals. His dad was doing all that for him
I'm about to shut all this JT is the closest to MJ shit down. R.Kelly HIMSELF said that CB has the MJ thing on him...and R.Kelly is the king of R&B and knows more about music than Charlamagne and all of you out there. Even Fat Joe said it on 106 & Park when he made the ''Another Round'' video with Chis. Yea he's a rapper but he still knows more about music than Charlamagne and all of you out there. What legendary artist has compared JT to MJ when JT was in his prime?
That is true JT has never really gotten that MJ comparison, not as much as Chris has. But Charlemagne is just saying that because JT was just on the Breakfast club, and this is coming from a guy that says Rihanna is the realist since Tupac because she brought him weed.
MegaQueenofbeauty " JT has never really gotten that MJ comparison" you gotta be kidding me right !? since the vma 2002 , people compared him at michael jackson and in 2003 , the rolling stones wrote that he's the new king of pop like literraly. Then in 2006 , with a more mature sound , people called him the prince of pop to not disrespect the king.
Chris Brown was compared to MJ from 2008 to the rihanna accident and then he losed his way and start doing shit. It's been a decade since JT was compared to MJ check your facts man
***** He got that comparison for the first 2 or 3 years of his career, after that it stopped. Chris was compared to MJ since he started, which is why he did that Thriller performance. But like i said, R.Kelly himself compared CB to MJ and this was in 2013. So take that for what it's worth.
No one else has done it because JT is white. No one wants to make that comparison.
"R.Kelly HIMSELF said that CB has the MJ thing on him" Oh wow, that settles it then. Case closed. Pristine logic.
Charlamagne is right though CB is talented JT got classics though
Chris browns first and second albums are definitely classic albums.
Solid albums but not "classics"
+Lyndon Underwood good albums but not classic
I think his first is a straight up classic. His second was great. The rest were either good or okay.
Future Love/SexSounds is the best pop album since Bad
That album can’t fuck with MJ’s Invincible album (drooped in 2001) which is what Justin Ts 1st album really tries to knock Cuz the album song’s are leftovers from what MJ didn’t use with The Neptunes during recording Invincible MJ album in 2001 paved the way for the younger pop artist to follow the invincible album just didn’t get the attention it deserved cuz of the Trail & allegations but F.L.S.S. Is Classic Pop album of the 2000s no doubt
This didnt age well. Jt is nowhere to be seen where as cb is constantly active
@@crocop4life lol Chris brown not even close to mj either Bruno Mars and The Weeknd took his spot now they outsell Chris brown by a mile and make better quality music
@@justaguywholikeshentai4093 actually you wrong. No one is close to MJ! My point is cb much closer to MJ then jt.
Dance style abd natural raw talent with plenty of classic dance videos to prove it. Quality and quantity from cb.
Jt and definately bruno cant do that.
@@crocop4life chris brown is honestly not closer to mj than justin, lol Beyoncé is closer than Chris brown lol Chris brown ain’t even touch usher yet let alone Michael Jackson
That dude was talking out of his arsehole trying to say Chris Brown is a closer comparison to Michael Jackson than Justin Timberlake and justifying that mess of a boy. Charlamagne was talking sense. It's straight up Justin.
I would never outright compare any artist to Michael Jackson, because nobody has come close to steering in Michael's lane, let alone drive in that shit. But if we had to pick between Chris and Justin, Justin all the way. He focuses on the quality of his music. He hones his craft and is as serious about the music in a similar way Michael was. Chris Brown's sound changes up everyday of the week and is forgettable. Nothing that dude does musically sticks.
He doesn't CHANGE UP...he's has more variety than JT...and more hit records....his music does stick...you guys just don't let it....Fine China was a major hit in 2013 and will forever be remembered.
Jt and mj they can do all they wants they can't touch breezy I swear to god
MJ actually worked with JT...so yes, if he had lived for a bit longer, they would've collabed...easily
@Alde N they collaborated and crossed paths plenty times but I agree with you
The whole Rihanna incident is what messed
Up Chris browns career he was the closet thing to Michael Jackson until he started getting all kinds of trouble and getting himself stuck on probation for 6 years and he didn't get the time to put in the effort properly to make his music better than what is I mean i still think his music is good but it could've been way better
I feel if anyone would be compared to MJ, it would be Usher (with longevity, dance and singing ability) or Bruno Mars (amazing compositions and writing, singing ability). You don't have to sound like MJ to follow his legacy. I love Justin Timberlake, but I feel Usher is better than him in everything except acting.
I also feel like Justin Timberlake is getting the "Elvis" treatment (I hate to say appropriating; I will just say he is benefiting from singing black sounding music while being white). Of course he can wait almost a decade between albums; he is white! White people are going to buy his music, regardless if its been a year or 20. Unfortunately, White people can have quality music and it sells. Let a Black artist put out a great R&B record and it will flop (Jazmine Sullivan's newest album was genius!). We are still shucking and jiving for these people. Beyonce's ratchet Self-Titled sold like hotcakes but her more raw and introspective R&B 4 was her lowest selling album. Things like this need to be kept in mind when people complain about Black music. White people are not going to buy smart black music because they want to experience something black and they think that is twerking, drugs, hoes, cash and great beats. And you won't get rich or get that 'cross-over' appeal if you don't have a White fanbase.
I agree with most of what you said here. Props to you for speaking out the truth!!!
agree 100%
Prince, miguel
Neither of them mentioned Usher which is surprising.
Exactly. Usher is better than both CB &.JT
Justin is better than Usher, but Chris cannot come close to Usher's level.
DommeDamian Usher is better than JT. Better singer and dancer. Ushers “Confessions” was his “Thriller” moment
Usher was not relevant in the 2010s to the present but Usher got a better chance of becoming king of pop than Chris Brown. I love JTs music and I like his movies so I would have to agree with CTG.
Usher is more Rnb
How do you feel about Chris Brown now Chris Brown Indigo album sold million plus he's like the youngest artist that owns his master's...
Justin is a lot better than Chris Brown and a lot more legendary! Sorry
Lorenzo D BULLSHIT!
Charlemagne always comes with facts
I think they both missing the vital person in terms of best albums in the same genre with a closer age to Justin than Chris Brown. USHER got both of them boys beat. But Chris is still growing. He's only 23 years old. Justin is over 30
Chris is about to be 25
***** not confession
Smh he right Rihanna forgave him and let it go but ppl and the industry never gonna let him move on
I really don't know how to compare Chris and Justin.I like both of their music for different reasons.I'm really feeling Justin grown and sexy vibe, and I like Chris for making me dance.I have to admit I can listen to
Justin CD from start to finish,I can't do that with Chris.
i agree with charlamagne surprisingly 100 percent
NOBODY is the closest thing to Michael Jackson.
+Debbie Deb Deb Closest doesn't mean that he is equally as good.
Riley Jones I know
+Stephen Curry Ur ignorant AF
***** While everyone argues about who "close", ur here saying he's "better" ? That's wildly ignorant, because ur clearly not educated/aware about the standard qualities of an overall entertainer/artist. Unless ur referring to a "specific" aspect.....the rest isn't even something subjective.
Debbie Deb Deb lmao jt their if not the goat. Before it was Michael now jt has definitely surpassed that
Charlamagne said it best…. JT.. "Without question"..Justin's vibe is more like the legendary MJ..
Michael Jackson = King Of Pop
Madonna = Queen Pop
Justin Timberlake = Prince Of Pop
Brittney Spears = Princess Of Pop
Beyonce = Queen Of RnB
Usher= Prince Of Rnb
why not make usher the king of RNB because there isn't anyone like him
Adrienne Kromah R. Kelly King of R&B
I'll agree with you on that
so whos the king of rnb then?
john jacob jingleheimer schmidt
r kelly
You gotta appreciate Charlemagne and his honesty.
I TOTALLY disagree! Justin is DOPE...but he's white and that means everything. If you add up talent for talent justin can't touch usher or chris Brown. BUT when white boys sound like blacks they get all the money!
Finally a truthful unbiased comment.
Justin doesn't even sound black...
After CB laid hands on Rihanna, that was a wrap! His career stagnated. He will never have the success and support beforehand. He really was on his way towards JT's level fame but that domestic abuse controversy ruined his chances!
Yup. After that incident was when the tattoos, "nigga" usage, social media melt downs, and the "fuckyopictures" Instagram account began. Seriously who names their Instagram act. that?? And EVEN AFTER ALL THAT - FEMALES STILL SUPPORT HIM!!??? HAHAHA!! And people wonder why Eminem disrespects women so much.... :smh:
You're so right, because when Chris came out he was damn near untouchable, the whole doublemint gum commercial days where he damn near had a spotless career. I remember people used to think he was perfect musically TILL that Rihanna situation happened, then all these Feminists and Females started hating him and acting as if he beat them too rofl...He had to apologize to the world for a situation that had nothing to do with the world.
Sephyiroth Masamune Yeah - well, welcome to the celebrity life haha. I would have loved to have seen him stick with what made him popular, he would have been a much better role model for kids. I don't listen to pop, but it's always good to have genuinely good people in music(regardless of race). But when he decided to go thug life, he played himself and everyone that supported him. Over-night tool bag by choice. Didn't Hov want to beat his ass after the Rihanna thing??
that was chris's BEST year too!! so fucking unfortunate damn
Fuck Y'all breezy is more talented than these niggas #kingbreezy wtf that is so disrespectful to compare him to jt maybe mj but more talented than both
Man please J Timberfake wouldn't be NOTHING without Timbaland. The dude had a jew fro and did bubble gum pop. I'm tired of people like him eating off of black culture, kinda like fadtv.
The sad part is he's absolutely right. I been rooting for Chris since he was 16. But he won't ever be the next mj because he's so and will forever be hated by the public
This is factual
Lies
Not really. Timberlake is a whole lot more popular than Breezy. (I like them both)
Justin is not a WHOLE LOT more popular!.....Chris Brown will be more famous when it's all set and done!
Tay Orum How so? What movies or other ventures has he been in lately? I'm not saying Breezy's wack I'm just saying I agree with Charlamagne's comments.
Tay Orum if he gets his act together and he needs to do now he doesnt have the luxury like the king of pop JT to make a album every 5 to 7 years and make women melt. brown doesnt have that kind of music power
Justin Timberlake is the PRINCE of POP hands down dont give af about what any one says !
nobody can touch Michael Jackson and that's facts
Justin Timberlake is like Prince. An amazing talent and has had a few great songs but needed a few more classics to be become king. They never quite lived up to their potential. Perhaps Justin needs to team-up with Pharrell again to get there or maybe Mark Ronson.
+horrorjunkie92 I'll respectfully disagree, I'm not saying this cause he just died. His status as a mogul in music is impeccable.
Riley Jones Sure, while Prince was a mogul in music (mostly in the '80s), I think he had the talent to be up there with MJ and Elvis as 'the greatest ever'. While Prince had some great hits of his own, his music was seen as a little too quirky for mainstream. If he also teamed-up with big producers and songwriters, he could have stayed in the charts through the '90s, '00s and '10s. Prince had his own way of doing things though and I guess didn't want to compromise himself to stay in the spotlight.
horrorjunkie92
100, RIP to Prince, Elvis and MJ.
Wrong. Prince's potential was more than realized. Musically, performance-wise, legendary status. Try again.
Adrienne S. When was the last time Prince was in the charts? He never stopped releasing music. MJ's album sales dropped towards the end of his career but he never went off the map completely. I'm saying with Prince's talent, he could have been as big as Michael, if Prince was more open to collaboration.
Race has nothing to do with this. This man is merely talking about reputation. Justin Timberlake's reputation is better than Chris Brown. White or not.
Classy music lasts through generations. When you're talking about hoes and bitches and fucking it's ends up fading away. I do like his songs where he avoids those words though. I agree with Charlamagne.
There's also a difference in genres when it comes to these two guys. Chris' diversity is way bigger than Justin's. Justin mostly does pop-music. That's why I love listening to Chris Brown - because you have "all" genres in one person. CB sold 8.000 tickets in Denmark last november - JT sold 45.000 tickets in Denmark this october. So when it comes to "idol status", JT wins, but he has also been in the game for a longer time. I wish both artists the best of luck in the future!
He's absolutely right about JT. Chris Brown is nowhere near as big.
Michael Jackson comparisons...don't do it to them..
His nysnc days alone is still bigger and more impressive....he never beat the shit out of one of the beatiful girls eva
First off she's not that attractive and secondly she put hands on him first.
@@lukecowen3907 And why people act like JT ain't never done a black woman wrong?
Charlamagne b makin some great ass points!
He's a troll lame ass bitch!
Chris is that level, look at his records sales to date, men lie, woman lie, numbers don’t 💯🤷♂️
I always felt that Bruno Mars was the closest thing to MJ. Musically and appearance.
Justin clearly sings better than chris brown even though chris do make good songs but justins vocals are way better especially end of time with beyonce i love that song
Neither of them are impressive vocally. Both have whiney nasally voices.
Chris Brown is better vocally
chris brown could never touch JT at all, no matter what lol
nigga you on crack! Lol
why cuz JT white Chris brown way better artist than Timberlake
Jt better fuck you for putting race into it
MJ > Usher > Justin Timberlake > Chris Brown
MJ > JT > Usher > Chris Brown
CB-mj- usher-jason derulo-neyo omarion the rest comes after
What s wrong putting Chris Brown last.
Chris Brown will never be close to MJ in my opinion, JT is closer
Y'all let me know when jt and cb sells 1.1 million the first week and puts out 4 #1 singles and has a album that goes diamonds lol usher confessions beats both of these dudes discography lol
Vlad, I know good damn well that you did not compare Chris Brown to Michael Jackson... NO.
I've followed Chris since he first came out. Personally, I think his first album is a classic. Young Love, Yo (Excuse Me Miss), Say Goodbye, etc.
I don't know much about JT's music but he's crazy talented as well. If I had to judge who was closer to a MJ level I'd say JT. Because, honestly, I don't think Chris Brown even want's that title anymore. He seems more interested in female drama, smoking weed, and acting like a jackass in general than convincing the world that past mistakes won't prevent him from being the next MJ. JT has tunnel vision. He is out here working hard and avoiding the drama and the bullshit.
Right now, it just seems like JT wants it more. But that's just my opinion....
I agree with pretty much everything,
except that Chris Brown's debut is a classic. To me, it's a poor man's Usher Confessions;
Yeah > Run It,
Burn > Say Goodbye,
Caught Up > Gimme That,
Throwback > Yo,
Bad Girl > What's My Name.
Chris Brown's 2nd album Exclusive is a classic though. Kiss Kiss, With You, You, Nice, Throwed, Take You Down, Wall To Wall, etc.
Chris brown is more talented than both for sure
2021 where is Timberlake now tho?
A lot of racism in these comments. Woooh. Lay off the salt.
What JT has over Chris Brown is that JT is a pure entertainer. The guy can do comedy, he can act, he can sing, he can dance, anything that correlates with entertaining people Timberlake can do it. Chris Brown can sing and dance, and thats fine thats what he's good at especially dancing. But he can't touch Justin Timberlake in terms of overall talent. JT is just too multi dimensional of an entertainer. Theres a reason Brown has a net worth of $22 million and JT is worth $100 million. Plus Brown will always have that Rihanna shit behind his back (not saying I care I love his music)
Chris can do more than music....if THEY let him
Nahh man, like what? He's a pure musician/dancer. To do stuff other than music you need to be very well spoken, funny, smart, and people outside your business gotta like you. Watch his interview with the breakfast club and you can see that he'll never be someone who's hired to talk his pronunciation isn't sharp enough when he's not singing. He won't be acting or doing comedy ever, those are two different arts. Nd by THEY i hope you don't mean the man or the illuminati, cause that'd be dumb. Dudes loaded he has enough money to do whatever he would be able to do if he could.
He still more talented than JT
No.. He's not haha. Hence why he can't do anything but sing and dance and JT can do that and everything else under the sun. Money don't lie and abilities don't lie.
He also does Art....and being in movies don't require too talent...but as far as MUSIC...Chris has way more Hits
Charlmagne is definitely right about JT's album. I can listen to all his cds fully but when it comes to Chris Brown I only can listen to some of his hit songs. I do agree that if artists work on their craft they can become great and JT is smart for staying true to his craft and sticking with the same people.