@@justprivatelywatching0293 We're not independant. England is just leaving us alone. There's a huge difference. It's kinda like when a parent lets their kid play in the park. The kid is free to do whatever it wants, but the parent has the final word and can interrupt it at any time.
@@louisrobitaille5810 Yes, Canada IS independent. No, Britain does not have a say in how the country is run. Canada isn't some British territory or devolved power; it is a fully independent country, and has been since 1982. Also, the fact you say ENGLAND when you're referring to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland shows you especially have no idea what you're talking about. If you really are Canadian, then I suggest you go away and learn some more about the status of your own country before you make even more of a fool of yourself on the internet.
King Charles is the King of England, and the King of Canada, and the King of Australia, and the King of New Zealand, etc. They're all separate positions that are held by the same person. Like how a person could be a CEO for different companies at the same time.
Notably in association with this it would be easier to have the Canadian Crown moved to someone other than the family of the current holder than it would be to completely remove the Crown.
Canadian independence is a weird one to pin down compared to other former territories. It gained autonomy in 1931 which required them to still partake in Britain's wars (WW2, Vietnam, etc) but Britain couldn't get involved in their politics. Newfoundland had gave up its autonomy in 1934 due to poor financial planning and the need for subsidies from Britain to pay it off their debt, it eventually joined Canada in 1949. But the Constitution of Canada wasn't drafted till 1982 which gave them full independence which is where they stand today.
It's not fully independant. The Governor General literally stands in for The Crown in our federal government and has a veto power (that they never use, but still could).
@@louisrobitaille5810 The Governor General stands in for the Crown, true. But that Crown is the Monarchy of Canada, a separate entity from any other, it isn't the British monarchy, it's the Canadian monarchy. It'd be like someone being CEO of Google and CEO of Apple. Just because this person is a CEO of both, doesn't mean the companies are dependent. Canada is fully independent.
@@louisrobitaille5810 The Crown has used its veto/authoritative powers though, such as taking over and dismissing court cases. They've done this for cases that don't pertain to their interests (officially calling it 'not in the public's interests') and sometimes for valid reasons too. One recent example is a charge that was laid by the Ontario Court of Justice on a local entity that was assisting in enlisting Canadians to a foreign military force, illegal under Canadian law. The Crown took over the case and withdrew the charge before it could get to trial.
@@tempaccount7024 Specifically, it's a rarely used technical term called a Personal Union. It's where yes, both nations ARE independent de jure, but ruled over by the same person, muddying the waters a bit in practice. Really only happens in monarchies to my knowledge. Used to happen a lot due to tactical marriages. See also England and Scotland prior to union as UK, Norway and Denmark a few centuries back, Spain and France (almost) until everyone got scared and slapped them apart, etc. So not to be the unpopular person in the comment section, but you're both right. In law it is 100% independent. In practice it is as independent as the King/Queen wants it to be within the bounds of the constitution.
Yeah, for once I agreed with a Canadian that's not Québécois 🧐. Anyway, back to hating Canada now. Edit: she's wrong though, Canada does belong to England 😐…
@@sugarqbs Except we literally were. They "conquered" us, French Canadians, in 1759 on the Plains of Abraham after France abandonned us. Then in 1763 iirc, France gave the New-France colony to England because they lose the 7 years war.
@ As far as European powers, the french may have been first, but I don’t assume the lands were uninhabited before then😅 Idk the relationship between french canada and whatever indigenous populations they contacted; it just reminded me of American settlers and how they react to later “immigrants” across US history
@ The French were actually friendly with a few tribes and therefore became the enemies of others because of this. The British and 13 Colonies, not so much 💀.
Technically the monarch of the UK being on Commonwealth money is an optional thing, Charles isn't even the head of state for all its members. Canada just knows its place in the pecking order 😎 (jk, we love you Canada. Please don't leave the Commonwealth, you can change the money if you want). He's head of the Commonwealth, but he's not the head of state of all its members. It's like how the US is the leading army of NATO, but they're not in charge of the rest of Europe's armies.
@@VME-Brad Canadian PM Wilfrid Laurier is on the CA$5 bill. When it was still paper money, it became popular to draw Spock hair on the guy because of his similarity to the character. They have plastic money now, but when Leonard Nimoy died, the trend resurfaced with people photoshopping the bills instead.
Also the fact that they talk about being really close friends for the past 16 years and about people in their friend group liking Haruka. It all sounds like something from a high school friend group. Admittedly pretty sure from Haru’s irl lore video she was home schooled for high school. But it still sounds always like they were hanging out in real life rather than online
@@U1TR4F0RCE From what I mremember of her 2nd year debut video, Haruka went to a regular highschool that had a special ed class. She studied everything the same as anyone else did but she was allowed to do things to accommadate her autism. This usually means things like having headphones to drown out the excess noise, more individualized teaching, books that are extremely literal (Haruka has mentioned that she thinks extremely literally so when people use idioms it's hard on her mentally because unless she knows that it's an idiom and clears up the definition, she'll misconstrue it) Also when people speak symbolicly, is probably pretty hard.
@@lanteanboy Depending on the specific school and school district there will be grades usually 7-8 or 6-7-8 which are done at a seperate school from elementary school and high school.
Calling Quebecois "the original Canadians" is one of those "well…depends on who you ask". Cuz First Nations peeps have been there for thousands of years
2:12 Canada is only independant for as long as The Crown lets us. They could take back Canada anytime if they wanted. They also have a say in all our decisions, through the Governor General. Sure they always agree, but they still have a veto.
9:11 Canada's independance is weird. It can be 1867 when the confederation was founded, 1931 when the British aknowledged us, or 1982 when the Constitution was brought to Canada, Constitution that Quebec *NEVER SIGNED* btw. We're prisoner of a country that we're technically not even a part of.
7:11 As a quebecois, this part gave me an existential aneurysm that a british is supporting and covering us while we were taught that the rest of Canada seethes at us
For those wondering Canada is an independent country, it does shares a monarch but nothing else, this is call a Personal Union, he is also the monarch of Australia, New Zealand, Jamaica and of the other Commonwealth realms, as he is the head of the Commonwealth This means that the UK parliament has no power over Canada, that's what the Canada Act 1982 stablish, before that the UK parliament had some powers but the didn't use them, and that Act confirmed that they no longer could You can be two independent nations and share a monarch
"So you're going to tell me the Quebecois are are British too?" That question is a little funny to me because this whole conversation is about whether or not Canada is it's own country (and technically...it's not because it's a part of the British Commonwealth so it's really a question that has a sort of "yes and also no" answer) and the Quebecois get really finicky about their own nationality because they've tried to make Quebec, itself a country in the past.
6:29 Someone needs to remove her toggles, no one man should have that much nonchalant free will edit: I forgot that's not a toggle, it's just her weapon grade programing. Why was she given so much power?
Speaking of things that nobody really talks about in relation to countries, anyone else realize that Europe is really just part of Asia, and nobody talks about it?
As far as I know, isn't it technically set up where all the Commonwealth realms are independent but just happen to have the same person as their figurehead monarch?
Heavenly - "What country does he run? What country does he currently own, as the monarch" Gonna be honest here... None. The Royal family doesn't run or own any country anymore, they're just symbolic 😂 btw yes I am a leaf lover... Jus not tea...
Not true, technically the king does in fact own the UK, people who "buy" property there still have to go thru a process that basically just has them leasing it from the monarch. In addition to that the King can theoretically dismiss the entirety of their government at any time and not replace them. this has only happened once, but is still possible. The king there is the only monarch in the world to still actually hold that kind of power.
@@VME-Brad True and he is the one that is in charge of the military so if any object to the other one he is still in command of the military, also the Govenor Generals of each Commonwealth Country Chuck is King of also has immediate command of the military. So if Parliament wants to invade another country, they have to debate it, once approved, the Prime Minister then contacts the Govenor General who then approves it. Then and only then does the military go into action. Of course the Govenor General can do this right from the start.
Strictly speaking, the current Monarch can completely disband the current government of the UK. It is embedded into their constitution, as a failsafe if they need to return to an absolute monarchy. I think Elizabeth should have done it as soon as Boris was revealed to be a spineless wank.
Zen: What's the most Canadian thing you can say? Haru: *proceeds to say something other than "baeg"* Me: Who are you and what have you done with Haruka Karibu, imposter?!
Well... I want to chime in here, and say that Charles' family isn't originally English, they only made themselves English during the First World War by changing their house's name so that they would never be associated to Kaiser Wilhelm II - George VI's Cousin. Meaning England hasn't really been ruled by true Englishmen until then. Before George VI made the English House of Windsor, England was ruled by Welshmen - i.e. the Tudors, Scots - James VI, Charles I and II, and Germans - notably George I, II, and III of Hanover - in that following order.
they have uk currency but speak french? seems like its more confused there then anything but what do i know. im not from there but as far as i know there independent country. they do have there own military so defiantly independent.
But I don't have a British accent. How can a be part of the Peaky Blinders if I don't got the accent? ...although, my Mom looks at a LOT of British TV. Don't get me wrong, I WANT an accent like that.
if you want to get really down to it most Americans are British too or at least Europeans but Canadians are basically British and also king Charles old big ears himself doesn't run anything he's just a stupid symbol of the higher class that's it most of us don't recognise him as king
I’m not a u.s.a is #1 type person… But I am embarrassed for any country that still holds any fealty either real or symbolic to the British royals. It’s sad and pathetic and I think less of every country that does it. USA #1.
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Arielle and Heavenly are having fun messing with Haruka over Canada facts. Haruka is known as British now with Froot
VShojo is lucky to have Haruka. Hope she wins against the brain goblins.
Well, a certain Hestia Happiness is already helping out with that though.
I don't think that's happening.
The… mind goblin?
@@dongus4701 what's a mind goblin?
*Griko sweating*
@dongus4701 *sigh* ...what's a mind goblin...? (You're welcome.)
Well, it *_is_* part of the Commonwealth Realms.
Doesn't matter, still independent.
@@justprivatelywatching0293 We're not independant. England is just leaving us alone. There's a huge difference. It's kinda like when a parent lets their kid play in the park. The kid is free to do whatever it wants, but the parent has the final word and can interrupt it at any time.
@@louisrobitaille5810 Yes, Canada IS independent. No, Britain does not have a say in how the country is run. Canada isn't some British territory or devolved power; it is a fully independent country, and has been since 1982. Also, the fact you say ENGLAND when you're referring to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland shows you especially have no idea what you're talking about. If you really are Canadian, then I suggest you go away and learn some more about the status of your own country before you make even more of a fool of yourself on the internet.
@ The irony there 💀.
@@louisrobitaille5810me when I’m wrong and it gets pointed out so I reply with a skull emoji to preserve what little self esteem I have
King Charles is the King of England, and the King of Canada, and the King of Australia, and the King of New Zealand, etc. They're all separate positions that are held by the same person. Like how a person could be a CEO for different companies at the same time.
Notably in association with this it would be easier to have the Canadian Crown moved to someone other than the family of the current holder than it would be to completely remove the Crown.
I miss the Queen.
that is 90% irrelivent technicality as it has never functionally deviated from being identical to them being the same position.
You forgot France
@@anthonydeadman Real
Okay but can we just talk about how cute Haruka and Arielle’s fugi’s are? I love them.
Canada is only 4 years older then me, holy shit.
Canadian independence is a weird one to pin down compared to other former territories.
It gained autonomy in 1931 which required them to still partake in Britain's wars (WW2, Vietnam, etc) but Britain couldn't get involved in their politics.
Newfoundland had gave up its autonomy in 1934 due to poor financial planning and the need for subsidies from Britain to pay it off their debt, it eventually joined Canada in 1949.
But the Constitution of Canada wasn't drafted till 1982 which gave them full independence which is where they stand today.
It's not fully independant. The Governor General literally stands in for The Crown in our federal government and has a veto power (that they never use, but still could).
The Charter, passed in 1982, was a repatriation of the Constitution. The BNA was Canada's first Constitution.
@@louisrobitaille5810 The Governor General stands in for the Crown, true. But that Crown is the Monarchy of Canada, a separate entity from any other, it isn't the British monarchy, it's the Canadian monarchy. It'd be like someone being CEO of Google and CEO of Apple. Just because this person is a CEO of both, doesn't mean the companies are dependent. Canada is fully independent.
@@louisrobitaille5810 The Crown has used its veto/authoritative powers though, such as taking over and dismissing court cases. They've done this for cases that don't pertain to their interests (officially calling it 'not in the public's interests') and sometimes for valid reasons too. One recent example is a charge that was laid by the Ontario Court of Justice on a local entity that was assisting in enlisting Canadians to a foreign military force, illegal under Canadian law. The Crown took over the case and withdrew the charge before it could get to trial.
@@tempaccount7024 Specifically, it's a rarely used technical term called a Personal Union. It's where yes, both nations ARE independent de jure, but ruled over by the same person, muddying the waters a bit in practice. Really only happens in monarchies to my knowledge. Used to happen a lot due to tactical marriages. See also England and Scotland prior to union as UK, Norway and Denmark a few centuries back, Spain and France (almost) until everyone got scared and slapped them apart, etc.
So not to be the unpopular person in the comment section, but you're both right. In law it is 100% independent. In practice it is as independent as the King/Queen wants it to be within the bounds of the constitution.
Haruka is gold
From every Québécois thank you Haruka
Yeah, for once I agreed with a Canadian that's not Québécois 🧐. Anyway, back to hating Canada now.
Edit: she's wrong though, Canada does belong to England 😐…
idk, arguing that you were there first is a pretty British move…
@@sugarqbs Except we literally were. They "conquered" us, French Canadians, in 1759 on the Plains of Abraham after France abandonned us. Then in 1763 iirc, France gave the New-France colony to England because they lose the 7 years war.
@ As far as European powers, the french may have been first, but I don’t assume the lands were uninhabited before then😅 Idk the relationship between french canada and whatever indigenous populations they contacted; it just reminded me of American settlers and how they react to later “immigrants” across US history
@ The French were actually friendly with a few tribes and therefore became the enemies of others because of this. The British and 13 Colonies, not so much 💀.
I cant wait for them to reveal Heavenly as a new vshojo member
VSHONEN?
He has to be a cacodemon, it also opens the incredibly cursed potential of grouse jello badger and others to form an April Fools shitpost vtuber gen😂
@@I_saw_that956 oh god
Haruka is such an adorable brit
O Canada became the de facto national anthem in 1939 but officially got royal assent in 1980 on what is now Canada Day.
I'm a betrayal to my Britishness; I say "zee" and "elevator" instead of "zed" and "lift".
I don't know why, they just feel nicer to say.
'Zee' makes more sense than 'zed' because you don't promounce the d when using the letter in words.
Technically true. The head of state is still King Charles and it was Elizabeth II until she passed away.
Sorry Canada, you aren't technically independent
I miss Haruka so much. She has such a comfy offkilter humor that i Love. I really really miss her and hope she doing well.
Regarding the Canadian Penny, there are more in circulation in the State of Michigan, than all of Canada. :P
Technically the monarch of the UK being on Commonwealth money is an optional thing, Charles isn't even the head of state for all its members.
Canada just knows its place in the pecking order 😎 (jk, we love you Canada. Please don't leave the Commonwealth, you can change the money if you want).
He's head of the Commonwealth, but he's not the head of state of all its members.
It's like how the US is the leading army of NATO, but they're not in charge of the rest of Europe's armies.
Wasn't there a thing about some former prime minister being on some of their money and people kept turning him into Spock?
@@VME-Brad Canadian PM Wilfrid Laurier is on the CA$5 bill.
When it was still paper money, it became popular to draw Spock hair on the guy because of his similarity to the character.
They have plastic money now, but when Leonard Nimoy died, the trend resurfaced with people photoshopping the bills instead.
"we were blowin' up fireworks, ya'll were still goin' 'god save the queen'" lol
People assume that Ari is Canadian because they assume Haruka is one of those "cute until she speaks" types, and that usually only works in person
Also the fact that they talk about being really close friends for the past 16 years and about people in their friend group liking Haruka. It all sounds like something from a high school friend group.
Admittedly pretty sure from Haru’s irl lore video she was home schooled for high school. But it still sounds always like they were hanging out in real life rather than online
@@U1TR4F0RCE From what I mremember of her 2nd year debut video, Haruka went to a regular highschool that had a special ed class. She studied everything the same as anyone else did but she was allowed to do things to accommadate her autism. This usually means things like having headphones to drown out the excess noise, more individualized teaching, books that are extremely literal (Haruka has mentioned that she thinks extremely literally so when people use idioms it's hard on her mentally because unless she knows that it's an idiom and clears up the definition, she'll misconstrue it) Also when people speak symbolicly, is probably pretty hard.
@ oh was it only middle school and part of elementary that she was home schooled?
@@U1TR4F0RCE what middle school? Canada's Compulsory education system is only Elementary and High school
@@lanteanboy Depending on the specific school and school district there will be grades usually 7-8 or 6-7-8 which are done at a seperate school from elementary school and high school.
I mean she uses a British sounding TTS so of course it would say Zed.
Sigh of relief seeing Haruka on stream, even bigger sigh of relief that everyone is still dunking on her for benign shit 😂😂😂😂😂
Calling Quebecois "the original Canadians" is one of those "well…depends on who you ask".
Cuz First Nations peeps have been there for thousands of years
Hearing haruka makes me want to hug her
Haruka=absolute angel
6:34 The funniest thing about this is that WOT sounded a bit British.
After seeing Haruka in that chatting stream; IM glad shes laughing with buds~
6:29 ;P
2:12 Canada is only independant for as long as The Crown lets us. They could take back Canada anytime if they wanted. They also have a say in all our decisions, through the Governor General. Sure they always agree, but they still have a veto.
**sobs in Australian**
Edit: "God save the Queen, because nothing will save the Governor General."
I am older than an independent Canada
9:11 Canada's independance is weird. It can be 1867 when the confederation was founded, 1931 when the British aknowledged us, or 1982 when the Constitution was brought to Canada, Constitution that Quebec *NEVER SIGNED* btw. We're prisoner of a country that we're technically not even a part of.
the fact that you made the thumbnail look like parents scolding their child is fukin hilarious
7:11
As a quebecois, this part gave me an existential aneurysm that a british is supporting and covering us while we were taught that the rest of Canada seethes at us
Adopt Haruka. She wont be sad anymore.
Yeah. Inused to think Arinwas Canadian because she said she known Haruka since they were teens (I think). So I just assumed she lived close
My grandpa collects pennies
For those wondering Canada is an independent country, it does shares a monarch but nothing else, this is call a Personal Union, he is also the monarch of Australia, New Zealand, Jamaica and of the other Commonwealth realms, as he is the head of the Commonwealth
This means that the UK parliament has no power over Canada, that's what the Canada Act 1982 stablish, before that the UK parliament had some powers but the didn't use them, and that Act confirmed that they no longer could
You can be two independent nations and share a monarch
"So you're going to tell me the Quebecois are are British too?"
That question is a little funny to me because this whole conversation is about whether or not Canada is it's own country (and technically...it's not because it's a part of the British Commonwealth so it's really a question that has a sort of "yes and also no" answer) and the Quebecois get really finicky about their own nationality because they've tried to make Quebec, itself a country in the past.
I can't remember the last time i handled physical money
Maybe Canada should take an example from a RRRREEEAAAL INDEPENDENT COUNTRY YYYYYEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
"She knows Froot, she is SO BRITISH"
my sides
I was questioning Ari, since she's known Haruka as kids, and Haru is Canada
I say this is karma for the equivalent exchange bit that she and Rynako were responsible for. 🤣🤣
Father went soul snatching huh?
6:29 Someone needs to remove her toggles, no one man should have that much nonchalant free will
edit: I forgot that's not a toggle, it's just her weapon grade programing. Why was she given so much power?
As a British person, I can assure you that if Canada was owned by Britain there wouldn't be French people there haha
Not sure France would claim Quebec.
That's a good point🤣
like if the british ever managed to take us down, they tried for decades
Speaking of things that nobody really talks about in relation to countries, anyone else realize that Europe is really just part of Asia, and nobody talks about it?
I didn't know Heavenly was a dwarf
As far as I know, isn't it technically set up where all the Commonwealth realms are independent but just happen to have the same person as their figurehead monarch?
Heavenly - "What country does he run? What country does he currently own, as the monarch"
Gonna be honest here... None. The Royal family doesn't run or own any country anymore, they're just symbolic 😂 btw yes I am a leaf lover... Jus not tea...
Not true, technically the king does in fact own the UK, people who "buy" property there still have to go thru a process that basically just has them leasing it from the monarch. In addition to that the King can theoretically dismiss the entirety of their government at any time and not replace them. this has only happened once, but is still possible.
The king there is the only monarch in the world to still actually hold that kind of power.
@@VME-Brad True and he is the one that is in charge of the military so if any object to the other one he is still in command of the military, also the Govenor Generals of each Commonwealth Country Chuck is King of also has immediate command of the military. So if Parliament wants to invade another country, they have to debate it, once approved, the Prime Minister then contacts the Govenor General who then approves it. Then and only then does the military go into action. Of course the Govenor General can do this right from the start.
Strictly speaking, the current Monarch can completely disband the current government of the UK. It is embedded into their constitution, as a failsafe if they need to return to an absolute monarchy. I think Elizabeth should have done it as soon as Boris was revealed to be a spineless wank.
o Canada...god save the queen
Zen: What's the most Canadian thing you can say?
Haru: *proceeds to say something other than "baeg"*
Me: Who are you and what have you done with Haruka Karibu, imposter?!
Haruka is French because Quebec is past of Canada ^^
Well... I want to chime in here, and say that Charles' family isn't originally English, they only made themselves English during the First World War by changing their house's name so that they would never be associated to Kaiser Wilhelm II - George VI's Cousin. Meaning England hasn't really been ruled by true Englishmen until then. Before George VI made the English House of Windsor, England was ruled by Welshmen - i.e. the Tudors, Scots - James VI, Charles I and II, and Germans - notably George I, II, and III of Hanover - in that following order.
In the words of the great Randy Feltface; Quebec is interesting, French speaking Canadians ruled by the queen of england, PICK A FUCKIN LANE QUEBEC.
When did she turn the size up to 300%?
Canadian here, not offended
Many hundreds of times the face value of a penny is a few dollars.... so still not that much
I am seriously weirded out that Australia has been an independent country longer than Canada
Wait really?
I think everyone in Canada can agree that we hate Quebec, but we like Quebec more than anyone who craps on Canada :3
I say "Zed" because I'm French x)
they have uk currency but speak french? seems like its more confused there then anything but what do i know. im not from there but as far as i know there independent country. they do have there own military so defiantly independent.
But I don't have a British accent. How can a be part of the Peaky Blinders if I don't got the accent?
...although, my Mom looks at a LOT of British TV. Don't get me wrong, I WANT an accent like that.
unfortunately, you aren't from Texas. cant be.
Dude. We gotta free Canada.
Imagine being british
Isn't Québec ruled by the king of England... even though they speak French... and Canada is independent...
Québec, pick a lane, my god.
6:48 Actually, Quebec is a separate nation from Canada, so technically, we're not British anymore 🤔.
if you want to get really down to it most Americans are British too or at least Europeans but Canadians are basically British and also king Charles old big ears himself doesn't run anything he's just a stupid symbol of the higher class that's it most of us don't recognise him as king
I'd rather have a foreign king on my money than multiple slavers.
I’m not a u.s.a is #1 type person…
But I am embarrassed for any country that still holds any fealty either real or symbolic to the British royals.
It’s sad and pathetic and I think less of every country that does it. USA #1.